AMERICANS: don't take affiliate marketing for granted. Please read.

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Hi guys.

I've been on the warriorforum since quite some time ago, reading courses, buying WSOs, trying to make money online. Just like everyone else reading this, cause obviously this is what this forum is for.

I wanna talk briefly about why you americans (and some other countries too) have such a unique opportunity, with affiliate marketing specifically.

I live in a third world country, and here we have things a little restricted. Let me give you some examples:

1) We can receive payments to our Paypal accounts, but the money stays there. There's no way we can cash in those payments, or transfer them to a bank account, debit card or whatever. We can't even convert those payments to checks and have them mailed here to our country. That's just not possible.

2) Affiliate networks usually don't even make wire transfers overseas. They usually send checks, and that takes me to the third point.

3) Even if we did have the opportunity of receiving checks, the mailing system in my country is a little interesting, because cash, checks, cards, and expensive little things, jewelry, premium membership cards of any kind, those things just get LOST. Why? People steal them. And I wish that happened every once in a while. It happens very frequently.

So what options do I have? Sure, I could offer SEO services, and make money with that. Sure, I could flip websites. Sure, I could do soooo many things to make money online.


But during my journey of internet marketing so far, I've found that I just LOVE affiliate marketing, and it's just the right business model FOR ME. I feel so comfortable with it, and etc. The reasons why I love it are not important here.

What's important is that, due to the few limitations I have, because of the country I live in, I will have to take another route. One that I possibly don't feel 100% comfortable with.

Offer a service? maybe. Who knows what I'm going to do. But affiliate marketing, as far as the situation goes, is not even an option. And it sucks.


So for everyone living in North America, that take things for granted like:
- having all your commissions transferred to your bank account (unless it's clickbank but I'm pretty sure they do wire transfers too).
- having all your Paypal money go to your bank account directly.
- having CJ, Linkshare, ShareASale, CPA..... WHATEVER type of affiliate commissions you can think of....
- or EVEN if you're not american, but your mailing system is reliable.

PLEASE DON'T! You have an opportunity that a lot of people in the world wish they had.


Just a thought fellas..



I wish you all the best with your IM ventures! bye for now.

ps: thanks for reading.
#affiliate #americans #granted #marketing #read
  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    Can't you ask someone to transfer you money via Western Union?
    What country do you live in ? I'm in a 2nd World Country and still have lots of limitations.

    Also I can give you a tip from a poker friend:
    Offer to deposit money to their poker accounts in exchange for cash. It works well if you're in a big city.

    Good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author Abraham L
      Originally Posted by canyon View Post

      Can't you ask someone to transfer you money via Western Union?
      What country do you live in ? I'm in a 2nd World Country and still have lots of limitations.

      Also I can give you a tip from a poker friend:
      Offer to deposit money to their poker accounts in exchange for cash. It works well if you're in a big city.

      Good luck
      I would totally do that, if it wasn't because I don't really trust people when it comes to money. At the end of the day, they can just steal my money and dissapear. And what will I do if that happens? I can't do anything =)
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      • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
        Originally Posted by FalconPunch View Post

        I would totally do that, if it wasn't because I don't really trust people when it comes to money. At the end of the day, they can just steal my money and dissapear. And what will I do if that happens? I can't do anything =)
        Find a solution. Meet them in person and they have to give you first the money. After that you take out your netbook/notebook/table/smartphone and deposit money for them.

        Or were you referring to Western Union?
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Crawley
    Thanks for the insights and reminder of the opportunities that we really do take for granted.

    I personally don't believe in affiliate marketing as a whole business model in itself. A piece of your business sure but not the sole source of income. Why? Because you're not in control. I suggest reading "The Millionaire Fastlane" by MJ Demarco. Excellent book that really changed the way I think about business ownership.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryKathan
    Thanks for your insight - there are so many things that we should be thankful for that we are not even aware of!

    Mary
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    You seem like you have some knowledge of the industry, network and talk to people, warriors, what have you, but I'm sure you can find someone in the US that you can create a partnership with sharing abilities in this industry.
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  • Profile picture of the author MakeMoneyJames
    Hi Falcon,

    Heres a possible solution for you. I use this service to pay my workers that can't use paypal.

    Payoneer

    Most affiliate networks don't pay with payoneer, but some do.

    Adult affiliate networks will use payoneer. I believe CPATank will pay using payoneer. There may be others.

    Good Luck!

    EDIT: High revenue is required for payoneer for CPATank. If you want to do adult affiliate marketing payoneer is a normal payment for alot of those networks.
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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      You must be living in SA and even if you don't, I knowhow you feel. You can look into creating a Llc in a country such as Singapore and also a bank account. You can then do business as usual and just wire money or use your corporate card at the ATM back home.

      Obvoiously you'll have to sort out your taxes etc so do your due diligence.

      Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Well how about if you visit the USA,open a bank account in your name,apply for a debt master card.
    Use the debt master card anywhere in the world they have ATM machines!
    All you need.now is a US bank account and.a debt master card.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
    It's not only affiliate marketing that many Americans take for granted. Many of the advantages we enjoy here are completely ignored or taken for granted by a large percentage of our population.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Steve Faber View Post

      It's not only affiliate marketing that many Americans take for granted. Many of the advantages we enjoy here are completely ignored or taken for granted by a large percentage of our population.

      This is certainly an understatement.

      There is a joke here about, "how to starve a poor person?"

      The punch line is, "hide their welfare check under their work boots." :p

      That joke would not be so funny if it were not so true.
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  • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
    Originally Posted by FalconPunch View Post


    So for everyone living in North America, that take things for granted like:
    - having all your commissions transferred to your bank account (unless it's clickbank but I'm pretty sure they do wire transfers too).
    - having all your Paypal money go to your bank account directly.
    - having CJ, Linkshare, ShareASale, CPA..... WHATEVER type of affiliate commissions you can think of....
    - or EVEN if you're not american, but your mailing system is reliable.

    PLEASE DON'T! You have an opportunity that a lot of people in the world wish they had.


    Just a thought fellas..



    I wish you all the best with your IM ventures! bye for now.

    ps: thanks for reading.
    Thanks! This is something that all of us need to hear and think about.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    Would it be possible to develop a relationship with someone in the US or UK and learn to trust them, then have them mail you checks with your commissions? They would have to receive the payments to their Paypal, of course, but then they could deposit the money to their accountn and cut you a certified check once or twice a month.

    If you were to do this, you'd need to make sure this is alright with Paypal. I'm thinking it may not be, but it's worth a look.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunnyimrs
    yes..i agree..Recently my account has been put in to limitation by paypal...people living in other parts of the world w'll have so many issues.

    People in U.S.A are really lucky.
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    • Profile picture of the author PayoneerTeam
      Originally Posted by FalconPunch View Post

      Hi guys.

      I've been on the warriorforum since quite some time ago, reading courses, buying WSOs, trying to make money online. Just like everyone else reading this, cause obviously this is what this forum is for.

      I wanna talk briefly about why you americans (and some other countries too) have such a unique opportunity, with affiliate marketing specifically.

      I live in a third world country, and here we have things a little restricted. Let me give you some examples:

      1) We can receive payments to our Paypal accounts, but the money stays there. There's no way we can cash in those payments, or transfer them to a bank account, debit card or whatever. We can't even convert those payments to checks and have them mailed here to our country. That's just not possible.

      2) Affiliate networks usually don't even make wire transfers overseas. They usually send checks, and that takes me to the third point.

      3) Even if we did have the opportunity of receiving checks, the mailing system in my country is a little interesting, because cash, checks, cards, and expensive little things, jewelry, premium membership cards of any kind, those things just get LOST. Why? People steal them. And I wish that happened every once in a while. It happens very frequently.


      So for everyone living in North America, that take things for granted like:
      - having all your commissions transferred to your bank account (unless it's clickbank but I'm pretty sure they do wire transfers too).
      - having all your Paypal money go to your bank account directly.
      - having CJ, Linkshare, ShareASale, CPA..... WHATEVER type of affiliate commissions you can think of....
      - or EVEN if you're not american, but your mailing system is reliable.
      Hi!

      I'm Talia, Payoneer's director of community. Just wanted to pop in and let you know that we can give you ALL of these options (you don't say what country you're from, but we are pretty much open to everyone all over the world, including developing countries.

      * Payoneer has a virtual account service that can allow you to receive payments from PayPal directly to a Payoneer card. You need to receive 3 payments from one of our (1400+) partners in order to apply, but we work with hundreds of affiliate networks, so this probably won't be a problem. If we don't work with the network yet - let me know who they are and we'll try to get them on board. You can contact me at taliakl at payoneer.

      * Payoneer offers bank transfers all over the world that cost up to $10 depending on your country. It depends on if your partner offers it, but if they don't, you can always request that they add the service (it's free for them to add). We can do bank transfers to 220 countries right now.

      * All payments are either by the card or the bank, so you won't have to worry about checks getting lost in the mail. Bonus: The funds are available immediately on your card so you can invest them in more traffic, and the transfers take around 3 business days to arrive, so the turnover is quick either way. We load cards and perform bank transfers every day.

      Please let me know if you have any questions I can answer - I read WF on a daily basis.

      Originally Posted by MakeMoneyJames View Post

      Hi Falcon,

      Heres a possible solution for you. I use this service to pay my workers that can't use paypal.

      Payoneer

      Most affiliate networks don't pay with payoneer, but some do.

      Adult affiliate networks will use payoneer. I believe CPA Tank will pay using payoneer. There may be others.

      Good Luck!

      EDIT: High revenue is required for payoneer for CPA Tank. If you want to do adult affiliate marketing payoneer is a normal payment for alot of those networks.
      Thanks for the recommendation!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Terry
    Hi FalconPunch - there's one other option.

    Set up a registered business in the USA as as Nevada Corporation.

    This gives your business a US address.

    It might then be possible to open a US bank account from which you can transfer money to your own bank account. This means you can have a PayPal account.

    You'll need to look into this for more details but here's a good place to start...

    Nevada Corporation - $283 Full service with Registered Agent

    I hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Google Affiliate Network and Adsense offer Western Union Quick Cash to many non-USA countries.
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