Awesome site... Wish I had thought of it!

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All,

check this out: Nicholle's Weight Loss Story

Looks like a blog, right?

It probably also looks like Nicholle lives in your same city, huh?

Nope. It's a total affiliate site. Very clever - all the way down to the blog comments.

Amazing stuff, and I'm sure this person is making a KILLING.

make sure to add it to your swipe file!

-Cam
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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    Now THAT is an affiliate site that every affiliate should try to copy in their own niche. It incorporates testimonials and has the human element that is represented by the person who lost weight.

    By the way, it's a cpa portal site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jillian Slack
        Daily ad revenue = $33.07

        nichollesweightloss.com Estimated Worth $24141.1 USD by websiteoutlook


        I've seen banner ads for this site all over the place lately. It definitely gives you the impression that it's local at first.

        I just noticed it put my city in the first line when I went to the site. Wonder if it does that with every visitor.

        "Hey everyone, my name is Nicholle Stevenson from Springfield, MO and I wanted to share my weight loss story with you.."
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by Jillian Slack View Post

          I really wish that site was accurate. I would be a happy camper right now with the traffic and ad revenue it estimates my sites are getting.
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        • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
          Originally Posted by Jillian Slack View Post

          Daily ad revenue = $33.07

          nichollesweightloss.com Estimated Worth $24141.1 USD by websiteoutlook


          I've seen banner ads for this site all over the place lately. It definitely gives you the impression that it's local at first.

          I just noticed it put my city in the first line when I went to the site. Wonder if it does that with every visitor.

          "Hey everyone, my name is Nicholle Stevenson from Springfield, MO and I wanted to share my weight loss story with you.."
          Yeah, I've seen these banners everywhere, too. Funny thing is, when I look at the site it says NOTHING about where she's from. Probably knew that if she lived in a small town like this, I'd either know her or know people that do know her, so "localizing" the ad doesn't work in towns like this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    Heh, nicely done, site creator:

    "Comments have been temporarily closed due to spam."


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  • Profile picture of the author Suthan M
    Just want to ask.

    He is running the script for the location and the predate for the blog a.k.a blog last updated on: the date. I guess it will show a predetermined date before the real date to make it look recent.

    Do anyone know where can i get a script for this.. i remembered i wanted to incorporate for one of my salespage but totally left it..

    Anyone have an idea?

    Dont worry, the salespage is for an out of IM niche :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
      Originally Posted by asianlunatic View Post

      Just want to ask.

      He is running the script for the location and the predate for the blog a.k.a blog last updated on: the date. I guess it will show a predetermined date before the real date to make it look recent.

      Do anyone know where can i get a script for this.. i remembered i wanted to incorporate for one of my salespage but totally left it..

      Anyone have an idea?

      Dont worry, the salespage is for an out of IM niche :-)
      I have one called First Visit.

      It goes back in time a few days (determined by you) to make it look up to date. Then it remember the date for a year so on return visits, it still shows the date you had originally.

      You can check it out at: First Visit: Date Script

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  • Profile picture of the author callmestrip
    thats the same landing page as the chedda landing page

    hers the thread : http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...hilarious.html
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  • Profile picture of the author e-genius
    very clever, altough people with a common sense will soon find out that its not really a blog and that the comments are probably made up.
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      Swiped!

      Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Kaplan
    Cool - do they capture the ip address to insert the city so it looks like the city you live in?
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    • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
      Originally Posted by Sid Kaplan View Post

      Cool - do they capture the ip address to insert the city so it looks like the city you live in?
      They use a GEO "targeting" script to get the location from the IP. You can find some free ones that do it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Keith Kogane
    "This site is in no way affiliated with, endorsed by or sponsored by the products reviewed , its partners, or subsidiaries."

    That's the part I have a real problem with if it's an affiliate site. The problem here is that it's misleading - same as with the "Chedda gets Cheddar" site someone linked to earlier this week.

    I honestly HOPE the FTC starts cracking down on this kind of thing more sternly, because it's misleading to the public. You could never get away with airing something like this on television without a disclaimer of some sort, but the web is the wild, wild west.

    Not only should consumers be protected against this kind of misleading marketing, LEGITIMATE marketers should be protected from unfair illegal competition like this.

    NOTE: If they are truly NOT an affiliate, it's all good. But I can't imagine why that site exists in the format it does if it is not. And if it IS an affiliate site, they're lying in the footer, and it's fraud.

    So... Am I being to strict in my interpretation? What do you guys think?
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    • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
      Originally Posted by Keith Kogane View Post

      "This site is in no way affiliated with, endorsed by or sponsored by the products reviewed , its partners, or subsidiaries."

      That's the part I have a real problem with if it's an affiliate site. The problem here is that it's misleading - same as with the "Chedda gets Cheddar" site someone linked to earlier this week.

      I honestly HOPE the FTC starts cracking down on this kind of thing more sternly, because it's misleading to the public. You could never get away with airing something like this on television without a disclaimer of some sort, but the web is the wild, wild west.

      Not only should consumers be protected against this kind of misleading marketing, LEGITIMATE marketers should be protected from unfair illegal competition like this.

      NOTE: If they are truly NOT an affiliate, it's all good. But I can't imagine why that site exists in the format it does if it is not. And if it IS an affiliate site, they're lying in the footer, and it's fraud.

      So... Am I being to strict in my interpretation? What do you guys think?
      It's the Internet, nobody cares (as long as you don't hack into people's bank accounts or something like that). If they regulated the Internet like they do normal businesses I suspect 75% of IMs (including white hats) would be in prison.
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      • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
        Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post

        It's the Internet, nobody cares (as long as you don't hack into people's bank accounts or something like that). If they regulated the Internet like they do normal businesses I suspect 75% of IMs (including white hats) would be in prison.
        Wrong.

        Ask Frank Kern. Or Google about companies fined over privacy policies. Or some of the Pyramid sites. Or Alert Pay. Or ....

        Just like offline businesses, it takes longer to catch some over others.

        Remember, some tv aads run for years before they get the smack down. Then some still run.
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        • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
          Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

          Wrong.

          Ask Frank Kern. Or Google about companies fined over privacy policies. Or some of the Pyramid sites. Or Alert Pay. Or ....

          Just like offline businesses, it takes longer to catch some over others.

          Remember, some tv aads run for years before they get the smack down. Then some still run.
          You mean outright fraud? That would fall under "something like that". But there are a lot of dirty things you can do online that nobody's gonna prosecute you over.
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  • Profile picture of the author Blake Stone
    These weight loss story sites are so common-place now that surfers are becoming blind to them.

    Recently, Google started banning these splog sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    Before anyone copies this method, you might want to consult an attorney.

    False advertising (if she didnt lose the weight with that pill), false testimonials, etc.

    Lots of possible FTC violations...
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary M.
    Interesting site. To me it looks pretty fake, right down to her airbrushed pics, but I can see how people who are desperate to lose weight might believe it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    Nicholle is smarter than she looks. She didn't just return my city, she gave me half my postcode as well! Kinda scary

    Still, if she can see that far into my mind she can see the grape and mayonnaise doorstep sandwich that's currently occupying it too, and she'll already be aware that she's wasting her time here
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    • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
      Originally Posted by Diana Lane View Post

      Still, if she can see that far into my mind she can see the grape and mayonnaise doorstep sandwich that's currently occupying it too, and she'll already be aware that she's wasting her time here
      And now when sandwich technicians get into their technical details,
      I get lost there too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    I saw an ad on Myspace that used the same type of idea....

    Sarah’s Teeth Whitening Blog

    Clever for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_King
    There are literally hundreds if not thousands of these sites out there. And they are affiliate sites. You just set up a fake story and link to some free trial offers where the buyer only pays $1-$5 for shipping and is then locked into a continuity program until they cancel.

    These CPA offers pay from $25-$35 each, sometimes more. He/She is making about $60 per conversion and the visitor only has to drop about $8 initially.

    Too bad the story is totally fake and has nothing to do with the actual products being promoted. Maybe not illegal, but you can make your own moral judgment.
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    yup that is a good one... i gotta find out who this is!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    Fake ID's, fake testimonials, no contact details...etc.

    Not worth the risk at all in my book.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Kaye
    She's from Jacksonville...at least, that's what she tells me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    I presume this is a fake.

    If it is it's totally unacceptable in my book. Downright unethical and dishonest.

    Just because "its the internet" doesn't mean that ethics should go out the window. Anyone who thinks like this, deserves to be caught and face the consequences.

    What about REALLY trying to help people, not just ripping them off?
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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    Guys, it DOES NOT MATTER if it's fake. This is an affiliate site!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Keith Kogane
      Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      Guys, it DOES NOT MATTER if it's fake. This is an affiliate site!!!
      Not only does it matter, the FTC can go after the actual merchant for such blatantly fraudulent behavior on the affiliate's part.

      The affiliate shouldn't condone this type of site at all. It's just too risky, and if you have to cheat this way to sell the product, it's not a good product.

      A REAL marketer would CREATE this kind of success story to market with. Find a real lady, tell a real story.
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    • Profile picture of the author robd1302
      Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      Guys, it DOES NOT MATTER if it's fake. This is an affiliate site!!!

      ...I can easily see who the REAL top affiliates are in this thread besides me...
      It's shocking to see so many people complain about "ftc", "scam", "fake"...it's unbelievable.
      Wow! It's amazing to me how many people on this board are fine with outright deception.

      So many posts recently have basically said "Lying to people is okay, because it's just sales"

      The ironic thing is, many of these posters promote products of their own. People can form their own opinions about exactly what's ethical and what's not, but if a marketer has no problem lying to potential customers, I certainly wouldn't trust anything they promote - how could I?

      In marketing, accentuating the positives of something and glossing over the negatives can be seen as "just sales". Clearly, one wants to make their product as good as possible, and that's widely accepted and understood. Discussing the potential benefits of something, or the "best-case scenarios" is "just sales". I have no problem with making a product look as good as possible or with discussing the potential that something has.

      Fake testimonials, doctored income proof, lies about affiliate status - these types of strategies give all marketers a bad name.
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  • Profile picture of the author netstrife
    Obviously this is unethical, but no more than the average CB affiliate site where "reviews" are given of products the site owner has never actually brought or used, and a product is highly recommended regardless of whether it works. In this case they're just doing it a hell of a lot better... offers expiring on the same day (apparently).. geotargeting script... fake comments, fake story etc. IMO it's not the marketing tricks you use that determine how ethical you are, the only thing that matters is the quality of the product and how much value there is in what you're promoting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Wisley
    Cam

    Thanks for pointing out this site. I have actually visited and bookmarked this site before. I think this lady does a great job of getting her message across. The best way to learn is to look at what others are doing and build you a swipe file.

    I'm getting ready to start a swipe file for email subject lines. Like which lines make me want to open the email. Good stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author camforbes
      Originally Posted by Steve Wisley View Post

      Cam

      Thanks for pointing out this site. I have actually visited and bookmarked this site before. I think this lady does a great job of getting her message across. The best way to learn is to look at what others are doing and build you a swipe file.

      I'm getting ready to start a swipe file for email subject lines. Like which lines make me want to open the email. Good stuff.
      Thanks Steve. Obviously I'm not proposing we swipe her message and start using it verbatim - I think it's all a bit "scammy"... but the technique and methods behind it are pretty clever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cynthia A.
    There is/was an IM product that promoted this same thing (creating a fictitious character & story) to sell affiliate products. I personally am not crazy about outright lying to make a buck...although I know some people don't think twice about it. And they are much more successful than I am online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Melkor
    They're a disaster waiting to happen for someone - consumers have already caught on: Invasion of the **** berry diet scams The-F-Word.org

    Watch them go the way of Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals and Steve Warshak sometime soon.

    Yes, someone's probably making a mint now. But whoever had better be prepared to put on an orange jumpsuit for a very long time when this blows up in their face.

    And these "free trials" are based on those unholy negative option offers and sooner or later the feds will lose patience. The more idiots push the boundaries out of greed, the closer we get to the point where legitimate offers and business models get shafted because the idiots caused a total ban on the model.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    The method is genius and as for the story... I'll bet that if you looked hard enough you could find a great story for just about any affiliate related product, if you took the time to look for one.

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    PS. Do you think the FTC will go after those dating sites that say "Hey, here are actual girls in your area looking for a date"..? But having said that... Having a REAL story makes it so much better.
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    • Profile picture of the author edlewis
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      The method is genius and as for the story... I'll bet that if you looked hard enough you could find a great story for just about any affiliate related product, if you took the time to look for one.

      Mike Hill

      PS. Do you think the FTC will go after those dating sites that say "Hey, here are actual girls in your area looking for a date"..? But having said that... Having a REAL story makes it so much better.

      So are you saying "SexySuzie36DD" does NOT really live in my area and isn't a real member of that online dating site trying to get me to sign up?!?!?!?

      Ed
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      • Profile picture of the author edlewis
        Obviously the faking of testimonials here is not going to fly for very long. Same thing with the allegations that canceling these "Trial" offers is virtually impossible.

        Anyone with half a brain realizes both those methods are destined to fail long-term.

        That said, the faux blog landing page seems to work, although I'm sure the amount of TRUST internet surfers have in blogs may be reduced because of offers like this.

        I'm sure this technique can easily be tweaked to fit even the most honest affiliate marketers needs. No sense throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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      • Profile picture of the author camforbes
        Originally Posted by edlewis View Post

        So are you saying "SexySuzie36DD" does NOT really live in my area and isn't a real member of that online dating site trying to get me to sign up?!?!?!?

        Ed
        No she doesn't. The interweb says she lives by me.

        LOL
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    The method is technically clever, but as Garrie and Keith have already pointed out, it's also deceptive, potentially fraudulent and fraught with FTC violations.
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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    I can easily see who the REAL top affiliates are in this thread besides me...
    It's shocking to see so many people complain about "ftc", "scam", "fake"...it's unbelievable.

    To those folks: have you ever watched an infomercial about weight loss products? Close to 100% of the people who lost weight did not use the product being advertised.

    Or lets take the CB review pages for instance...
    There are thousands of review pages where the owners of those pages endorse the products without ever using it. Keith Kogane, you said: "A REAL marketer would CREATE this kind of success story to market with. Find a real lady, tell a real story". I take offense to that. I AM a REAL marketer and so is the guy who set up that affiliate site. Find a REAL lady to try out those bogus crap diet products? hahahahaha....IMAGINE the amount of time it will take before you can start your affiliate campaign!

    As I said....one can easily spot the performing affiliates from the ones that don't know much.

    Peace out. ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike McBride
      Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      I can easily see who the REAL top affiliates are in this thread besides me...
      ...

      As I said....one can easily spot the performing affiliates from the ones that don't know much.

      Peace out. ;-)
      And it's also easy to spot the ethically-challenged who should be avoided like the plague. And the clueless ...
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      • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
        Originally Posted by Mike McBride View Post

        And it's also easy to spot the ethically-challenged who should be avoided like the plague. And the clueless ...
        Ethically challenged? Clueless? Seems the warriorforum has become a place where flaming have become the norm. There are hundreds of affiliate tactics that might look like unethical but if studied closely are not.

        Oh please do point out cases where affiliates have been hammered by the ftc for setting up clever review pages??
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    • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
      Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      I can easily see who the REAL top affiliates are in this thread besides me...
      It's shocking to see so many people complain about "ftc", "scam", "fake"...it's unbelievable.

      ....IMAGINE the amount of time it will take before you can start your affiliate campaign!

      As I said....one can easily spot the performing affiliates from the ones that don't know much.

      Peace out. ;-)
      Over the years I have met a few people who constantly looked for the quick buck, who were wondering why they were inside a small cell a little later.

      I know even more who weren't caught who if you asked them to answer honestly, would admit that they wished they had earned their money more ethically. They did feel uncomfortable with themselves and were never happy in themselves from what I could see.

      Are you saying that to be a good affiliate you have to be dishonest and lie?

      What utter nonsense. If a person gets in trouble for unethical practices they that person only has themselves to blame.

      There are loads of ways of making great money without lying, cheating and scamming people.

      Offer GREAT service and a GREAT product at a fair price, in high enough volume and you can't go far wrong. No one said it was easy, but it's not impossible either.
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      • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
        Originally Posted by Steadyon View Post

        Are you saying that to be a good affiliate you have to be dishonest and lie?
        Did I say that? No I didn't.
        All I said that marketing practices like the one on that site is found EVERYWHERE and nobody seems to care.
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        • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
          Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

          Did I say that? No I didn't.
          All I said that marketing practices like the one on that site is found EVERYWHERE and nobody seems to care.
          I agree with you on every point that you've made in this thread.

          I think that people are misunderstanding what you are saying.

          It's an affiliate site... nothing more, and nothing less.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
          Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

          Did I say that? No I didn't.
          All I said that marketing practices like the one on that site is found EVERYWHERE and nobody seems to care.

          Is that really what you said?

          I must have missed that somewhere...
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          • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
            Originally Posted by Steadyon View Post

            Is that really what you said?

            I must have missed that somewhere...
            I would appreciate it if you keep the sarcasm for yourself. You know what I meant so please stop the flaming now ok?
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            • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
              Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

              I would appreciate it if you keep the sarcasm for yourself. You know what I meant so please stop the flaming now ok?
              Agreed. I didn't mean to piss you off.

              It's just that I get so mad by scammers, especially as I have been scammed in the past by someone who ultimately ended up with more that a rap on the knuckles by the authorities. So at least there was some justice.

              I was still out of pocket though and if I see some company or website stepping way over the line I will say so very clearly and very bluntly.
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        • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
          This is the exact same thing as many many blogs that have been popping up. I made a thread about this a while ago, Chedda's bling blog anybody..??
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        • Profile picture of the author Adam Kenzington
          Hey guys,

          I hate this type of marketing. It is very effective, but go to either the **** pill or Colon Cleanse page and read there "Terms of Use" page.

          You have to go to the bottom of the page and click on the link, that takes you to the fine print.

          You get a free 14 day trial, then they charge your credit card $79.95 for the **** pills and $78.84 for the colon cleanse. (Thats $158.79 per month for something you could buy at the health food store for $40!) And the part that really sucks is that the 14 day trial starts the day you order, not the day you receive the products.

          You must have already cancelled the agreement by day 14 or there is no refund for that charge/order. Many more restrictions...check it out for yourself.

          So many people have reported problems with these sites...the phone number provided doesn't work and the only way most people have been able to stop the shipments is to cancel their Credit Card. (Search "**** scam" or "**** Fraud" in google)

          So, you see why I hate these sites. Unsuspecting users are thinking they are getting free samples to try, and end up paying nearly $160 for the privilege.

          Also, the **** used in the pills is inactive. Does nothing for you. Some of these companies actually don't use the **** in the pills, but use Purple colored Corn Starch in the pills.

          If you want good ****, get the juice, and make sure it has not been "heat and spray treated", as this kills the active ingredients.

          I hope this helps,

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  • Profile picture of the author vlabroo
    Indeed a good looking Affiliate Review Site. Only problem I see is that there are a number of such cookie cutter sites with similar personal stories for same products and same ads from Opra show and like. How well they are doing in sales and how much they have to spend on PPC no body knows. There is fierce competition in this niche so be aware and try to be different.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    There is the famous salesletter from The Wall Street Journal in which they tell a story about two fellows who went through school together. Now, many years later, one has been quite successful financially, and the other has not.

    The difference? The successful fellow reads The Wall Street Journal.

    Ahhh come on! That's all we need to do to be successful? Wow, who would have thought it could be that easy.

    A few years back there was a billboard advertising campaign for "Hudepohl Lite" - a local beer. The billboard contained two photographs.

    The photo on the left was of three shaply, young ladies in bikinis. The photo on the right was of two guys - weight lifters - body builders - with the kind of packed abs every guy wishes he had.

    The headline at the top said, "If You Drink Lite Beer, You'll Look Like This."

    Could it be true? When I tried it, I looked drunk. :-)

    So much for truth in advertising.

    :-Don
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    • Profile picture of the author Clark
      That world famous piece of copy (arguably) made between 1-2+ BILLION dollars in sales for the WSJ over the 28 years it ran in PRINT... and it was a FICTIONAL story yet it touched a nerve with the reader in ways that copy today could not and has not done since.

      Google -> Two Young Men letter - Google Search

      Terrific example Don.

      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      There is the famous salesletter from The Wall Street Journal in which they tell a story about two fellows who went through school together. Now, many years later, one has been quite successful financially, and the other has not.

      The difference? The successful fellow reads The Wall Street Journal.

      Ahhh come on! That's all we need to do to be successful? Wow, who would have thought it could be that easy.

      A few years back there was a billboard advertising campaign for "Hudepohl Lite" - a local beer. The billboard contained two photographs.

      The photo on the left was of three shaply, young ladies in bikinis. The photo on the right was of two guys - weight lifters - body builders - with the kind of packed abs every guy wishes he had.

      The headline at the top said, "If You Drink Lite Beer, You'll Look Like This."

      Could it be true? When I tried it, I looked drunk. :-)

      So much for truth in advertising.

      :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author Neo33
    Doesn't look like an Affiliate site, more like a personal or media article story.
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    • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
      "My soon to be wife absolutely loves this product. She has lost 15 pounds in the past week alone. She promised that she will be down to 130 lbs by our wedding, and guess what? She will be, easily. Thanks to this product!"

      .... No guy gets THAT excited about their wedding.


      still.. very good site.


      cheers for showing us


      regards

      Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnathan
    I dislike sites that lie. First line, is a lie (about the location, using geo-targeting). So how can you believe the rest?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    I don't condone fraudulent advertising, but there is plenty of advertising that skirts the line. Have you ever seen the "Bowflex" commercials on television? Does anyone actually believe that the guy featured in those commercials got that incredibly buff body from using a Bowflex?
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post


      Have you ever seen the "Bowflex" commercials on television? Does anyone actually believe that the guy featured in those commercials got that incredibly buff body from using a Bowflex?
      YeaH. LOL.

      Like that semi-buff dude with the ponytail got buff by swinging his arms and legs in a ski-walking motion.

      Or that you are gonna look like that model or celebrity if you wear the clothes and sunglasses they wear, yep, you gonna look just like them.......despite the leprosy on half your face.

      If Chuck Norris endorsed "High Karate Cologne" for men, yeah, I'll buy cause then, either chicks will associate The Chuckster with me if I smell like that, that me and Chuck are in the same exact league, or spraying some on will "magically" give me some kick-ass martial arts moves or simply give me the edge in kicken ass.

      Yeah, baby, spray this on, become Chucks twin brother or not too distant relative in looks and skills.

      LOL

      Jesus, I stopped falling for advertisement like this when I was 8, but I guess it still works.

      Like ordering a "diet coke" with any heavily breaded, butter soaked & marinated deep-fried lard fat product rolled into sugar and syrup, wedged in a sandwich made of two slices of monkey fat dripping with congealed gravy is "making a difference" in battling the bulge or real effort in cutting back, LOL.

      Other products that have no calories, no fat, no carbs, no sugar, no salt and no transfat:

      Rat Poison, paint thinner

      Yep, I'm sold.....let me get my "MENTOS", the fresh maker, and everyday is going to be perfect, coincidense after coincidense of any bad luck INSTANTLY turned into good luck in MY favor. LOL.

      Don't blame the advertisers. Blame us, the easily led sheep.

      Unless the product is kick ass and matches rep and claims or goes beyond over-delivery, I steer clear on purpose of advertise products that blantanly and needlessly insult ones intelligence.

      I've yet to buy a methos, and refused several offered to me for free.

      Not necessarily a moral issue, my stomach starts turning when I see that name and remember those commercials.

      The gag reflex starts tingling in my throat.

      The 13 th Warrior
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    • Profile picture of the author Jakehyten
      Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

      I don't condone fraudulent advertising, but there is plenty of advertising that skirts the line. Have you ever seen the "Bowflex" commercials on television? Does anyone actually believe that the guy featured in those commercials got that incredibly buff body from using a Bowflex?
      Bad example

      theres a big difference though. They dont every once say that guy got that body like that.

      That lady is SAYING she is from "your city"

      They are also SAYING they lost the weight from **** berry.
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  • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
    You guys are a little behind on the times.

    Type in any FEMALE name followed by weight loss you'll find a billion of these.

    It's all about the **** Berry and weight loss teas.

    Don't be surprised if the FTC starts coming down on a few of these people and/or the affiliate
    networks. It's just bad business all around. Google recently slapped anyone running **** ads big time.

    A quick google search will show you that the FTC and BBB are on to the **** Berry. So it's only a matter of time before commissions start being locked up.

    Fake Blogs are old news.

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  • Profile picture of the author MakingMoneyAtHome
    Does she have DID (double Identity disorder) or what?

    Monica's Diet Blog

    Found this ad on Classmates website just now.

    Dawn
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  • Profile picture of the author fullmatrix
    Yeah, this site is a good idea. I also caught several spam comments from this site in my weight loss blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Fenty
    The good old ethical argument.

    If you dont want to promote this way then dont. but dont flame other people that do. It doesnt make you more "holy" if you just follow the generic rehased crap that marketers feed you (opt in page > sales page > backend).
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    • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
      Originally Posted by Jason Fenty View Post

      The good old ethical argument.

      If you dont want to promote this way then dont. but dont flame other people that do. It doesnt make you more "holy" if you just follow the generic rehased crap that marketers feed you (opt in page > sales page > backend).
      Don't confuse ethics with legalities.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Hunter
    What rock have you guys been living under? There are probably hundreds of thousands of these fake blog sites now... still an impressive new slant on affiliate reviews...
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      To me , unless photo shopped, the before and after pictures are tools/enticements to keep ones attention and give the most strongest compelling reason to buy.

      Before and After photos of Arnold Schwarzeneggar in a picture with bowflex would not be believable.

      We know his story and how he got that body in his hey-day.

      The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author BrizzyMum
    Great debate guys, I'm shocked by the amount of people copying each other websites word for word, But they must be getting somewhere with it or they wouldn't do that right?
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmacca
    Definately looks awesome.
    Swipe file here I come
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  • Profile picture of the author indexphp
    For anybody who is complaining about the so-called 'ethics' of the site:

    Get a career outside of advertising if you don't like it
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    • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
      Originally Posted by Garrett Aren View Post

      For anybody who is complaining about the so-called 'ethics' of the site:

      Get a career outside of advertising if you don't like it
      Are you saying ethics and advertising can't go together?
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      • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
        Originally Posted by Steadyon View Post

        Are you saying ethics and advertising can't go together?
        What makes it so unethical?

        This type of marketing is the norm--on and offline.

        Actors are hired to promote products on T.V. all the time

        Why is this so different?
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          Originally Posted by marcanthony View Post

          What makes it so unethical?
          You mean besides lying about losing weight using something that doesn't make you lose weight, or lying about the free offer ending tomorrow, or photo shopping images to make it appear that you've lost weight using the product when you haven't, etc?

          I don't really have a problem with the storyline, it's the promoting of something that doesn't work that bothers me.

          Just because a lot of people engage in unethical marketing doesn't make it ok....not even if actors are involved.
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          • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
            Originally Posted by blackhatcat View Post

            I don't really have a problem with the storyline, it's the promoting of something that doesn't work that bothers me.
            So, as long as the product works--the storyline(the lie) is o.k.?

            Just because a lot of people engage in unethical marketing doesn't make it ok....not even if actors are involved.
            I see...

            But, you can find unethical activity in all marketing... ALL Marketing!

            Personally, I don't like or dislike this style of marketing...

            Nor do I see it as being ethical or unethical.

            It is what it is!

            It's an affiliate site--just like a Clickbank product!
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            • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
              Originally Posted by marcanthony View Post

              But, you can find unethical activity in all marketing... ALL Marketing!
              Once again don't confuse ethics with fraud & deception that is illegal. They are two different things and require different topics. Although many people confuse the two in dicussions. Look at this thread as an example.
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              • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
                Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

                Once again don't confuse ethics with fraud & deception that is illegal. They are two different things and require different topics. Although many people confuse the two in dicussions. Look at this thread as an example.
                No confusion here!

                I understand the argument!
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            • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
              Originally Posted by marcanthony View Post

              So, as long as the product works--the storyline(the lie) is o.k.?



              I see...

              But, you can find unethical activity in all marketing... ALL Marketing!

              Personally, I don't like or dislike this style of marketing...

              Nor do I see it as being ethical or unethical.

              It is what it is!

              It's an affiliate site--just like a Clickbank product!

              Mmmmm.

              I think sometimes you have to take a stand. If I think it is unethical and dishonest it won't get any support from me. None. Whether it is an affiliate site or not. Whether it is common occurrence or not.

              One has to decide whether one thinks something is ethical or not. It is easy to sit on the fence and pretend these kinds of things are ok.

              There are a lot of new people who visit forums such as this and I personally will never vouch for unethical practices such as these.

              You can take it or leave it. But that's my view and I'm sticking to it.

              One doesn't have to resort to such extremly poor ethical choices and in these cases, blatently illegal marketing methods to make money.

              In my opinion one can make more money these days by being more ethical, more genuine and more helpful to customers. By doing this it is easier to rise above all the crap and scammers out there.

              The end result is happier customers, more profit and being able to sleep at night :-)
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              • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
                Originally Posted by Steadyon View Post

                Mmmmm.

                I think sometimes you have to take a stand. If I think it is unethical and dishonest it won't get any support from me. None. Whether it is an affiliate site or not. Whether it is common occurrence or not.
                Understood!

                One has to decide whether one thinks something is ethical or not. It is easy to sit on the fence and pretend these kinds of things are ok.
                This is very true!

                You can take it or leave it. But that's my view and I'm sticking to it.
                Point taken!

                In my opinion one can make more money these days by being more ethical, more genuine and more helpful to customers. By doing this it is easier to rise above all the crap and scammers out there.
                I agree!

                The end result is happier customers, more profit and being able to sleep at night :-)
                Maybe... maybe not!

                Take care!
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      • Profile picture of the author indexphp
        Originally Posted by Steadyon View Post

        Are you saying ethics and advertising can't go together?
        No, that is not what I'm saying.

        What I AM saying is, if you think that is bad, you haven't seen some of the real shady stuff that goes on.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
          Originally Posted by Garrett Aren View Post

          No, that is not what I'm saying.

          What I AM saying is, if you think that is bad, you haven't seen some of the real shady stuff that goes on.

          Fair enough. I know what you mean. But I know people that have ended up in jail for mis-selling stuff and in one instance it was diet related.

          I KNOW that the site mentioned in the opc is breaking the law. If enough people did complain about it I can guarantee action would be taken.

          I don't spend my time riding round on a white horse, but I have been in business for 26 years and I have seen the fly by nights come and go.

          If you want to build a real, genuine business and not be looking over your shoulder all the time, then you can't be dishonest in your advertising or in your dealings with customers.

          Just because a lot of people scam others or rip them off or act unethically, or it even seems "normal" to do so, it doesn't make it right.

          As I said, treat people properly and 99 times out of a hundred they will treat you properly too.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mo Goulet
        Originally Posted by Danc1122 View Post

        Exactly! Whether you like it or not... advertising is just about the most shady and unethical "con job" there is. Seriously, it's true.

        But to me, these sites are full of genius marketing techniques that everyone can learn from.
        If you really want to learn how marketing geniuses put unethical advertising campaigns together and make BILLIONS of dollars then go to my website at http://www.SmokeScents.com

        These guys were the KINGS of advertising for over 50 years.

        Each picture you see there would make a great home page on a website....

        Shocking BUT True....
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  • Profile picture of the author mompessons
    Hi,

    Nice idea for a site. I see everyone has different views on it though.

    However for me, the most important thing I have learnt from this post is setting up a swipe file. I have heard of a swipe file before, but never thought of setting up a swipe file in my favourites to save sales pages. Great idea.

    Marc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Melkor
    The FTC will ream them a new one when they take a look:
    Three stock photos:
    Royalty Free Stock Photo Image: Young woman | iStockphoto.com

    Royalty Free Stock Photo Image: Success | iStockphoto.com

    Royalty Free Stock Photo Image: Beautiful woman | iStockphoto.com

    turns into this person's success story: Ann Drops Lbs! - My Weight Loss Story

    If the person appearing in the ad giving testimonials as to the effectiveness of the product they used did not in fact use the product during the process the FTC will have Views on that.

    Yeah, some boy's being a very sharp marketer. So sharp, he's going to cut himself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fermin Suero
    There are a bunch of these sites. <firstname>'sweightloss.com The all have basically the same layouts. Most of these girls are probably guys creating these sites.

    I heard they are getting banned by Google.

    Here are a couple:
    http://mollysweightlostblog.com/
    http://judyweightloss.com/

    They all promote **** berry and colon clense.

    I don't see a problem with this kind of marketing as long as the products work.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeStronghill
    That is a great little website. I wonder how the traffic is for it. Has anyone here checked it out yet? I would love to hear what someone finds when they reverse engineer the site.

    If someone does, please let us know.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
    Very good example here. Here's another: Nadia's Weight Loss Blog
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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Goulet
    A word of caution here folks. These program referred to on the website are all over the internet and are getting hammered in about 30 states. AOL had to put a halt to their advertising due to all the consumer complaints. Take a look at their terms on the bottom of the website..I've copied a portion for you.

    Terms & Conditions: (these terms/conditions only apply to the free trial) Start your trial now to receive a full month supply of ****-Noni Burner (retails for eighty four dollars). You will have 14 full days from today to evaluate and decide if you wish to keep the remaining 30 day supply and continue receiving ****-Noni Burner. If you enjoy ****-Noni Burner, simply do nothing. You will be billed the discounted price of only 79.95 at the end of your 14 day trial period for your initial supply. You will be billed again for the same amount 30 days from today to replenish your supply and begin your monthly auto shipment billed monthly at the same price unless cancelled(this is a savings off the retail price, and is available to you today).

    The deal here is ...you sign up for a FREE 14 day supply. They send you a 30 day supply which you receive on day 13 and don't bother to cancel...(How many of you read the Terms???) You are billed the $79.95 and good luck trying to reach them...Do a search on google and read it for yourself. My wife's sister got stung by them ...She now reads all Terms I guess...LOL

    Word!
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  • Profile picture of the author shanemr
    Very well put together and believable! I also believe the quotes from Dr. Oz on Oprah really help her sell her product.
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  • Profile picture of the author magicash
    I will just say that I hope that spending too much time in "this industry" doesn't doom my soul. This site, at first glance, just gives me bad vibes and greeeezzzy feelings. But I see a lot of posters saying this is the coolest and you should copy this. God I HOPE not. This is not something I would every be proud of no matter how much cash it brought me.
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  • Profile picture of the author 6figure101
    None the less, there is something for everyone to learn from that site...

    Good find CAM - this thread is getting a lot of attention and so is Nicolle's website...
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  • Profile picture of the author RichOnlineCEO
    It gave me a city I live nowhere near...
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    • Profile picture of the author robd1302
      Originally Posted by RichOnlineCEO View Post

      It gave me a city I live nowhere near...
      Whenever I see those types of scripts, they always mention the same city, but it's about 10 miles from here. I live just outside of Baltimore city, but the script never says Baltimore. It always uses this other tiny suburb. I guess that means my ISP has their local server there?
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  • Profile picture of the author NutraJay
    Domain is for sale, can't have been making THAT much money
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesJeffery
      Originally Posted by NutraJay View Post

      Domain is for sale, can't have been making THAT much money
      Why in gods name have you posted a stupid 1 line response on a thread that's nearly 2 years old?!?!?!?!

      Please don't bring old threads alive for the sake of raising your post count. Members on this forum dislike it and it certainty gets you no points/rep around here.
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    • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
      Originally Posted by NutraJay View Post

      Domain is for sale, can't have been making THAT much money
      That's because it's illegal to do that now. They made a ton of money.
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