Is Building Ready-Made WP Sites a Good Business Idea?

13 years ago

Well have you looked into site flipping? That's one part of your possible target market right there.

I'd say there definitely is market for ready-to-go WP sites, especially if they're well researched, optimized for a right keyword - people who are in this long enough will see that from a mile

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Matt I have thought about that but my own IM efforts have been lousy and I'm afraid I will choose the wrong keywords! It certainly sounds like a plan though. Should I include Adsense on them - would that make them more attractive?

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TopKat22

13 years ago

Originally Posted by wimbledonwoman

Matt I have thought about that but my own IM efforts have been lousy and I'm afraid I will choose the wrong keywords! It certainly sounds like a plan though. Should I include Adsense on them - would that make them more attractive?

Having the adsense on them depends on who you are selling them to. If I were you, I'd look at some top sellers on flippa and see what they are selling fast.

Personally, I never want adsense on my business sites. If anyone is going to click on anything, I want it to be my own deals.

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TopKat22

Having the adsense on them depends on who you are selling them to. If I were you, I'd look at some top sellers on flippa and see what they are selling fast.

Personally, I never want adsense on my business sites. If anyone is going to click on anything, I want it to be my own deals.

Cool, thanks again. I sold one site on Flippa years ago and did pretty well. There seems to be a lot of talk about building hundreds of Adsense sites right now, I just thought that may have fit in with the latest "trend".

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TopKat22

Having the adsense on them depends on who you are selling them to. If I were you, I'd look at some top sellers on flippa and see what they are selling fast.

Personally, I never want adsense on my business sites. If anyone is going to click on anything, I want it to be my own deals.

I will go check Flippa - thanks again!

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Matt Ausin

13 years ago

Originally Posted by wimbledonwoman

Matt I have thought about that but my own IM efforts have been lousy and I'm afraid I will choose the wrong keywords! It certainly sounds like a plan though. Should I include Adsense on them - would that make them more attractive?

Adsense by itself doesn't make the site more or less atractive.

However, this is another important thing - sites with earnings can be flipped for more money, however this is long term (usually).

Don't worry too much about keywords, you won't get that perfect every time. Pick a more general, evergreen niche and sell it as a base - then upsell your writing services to augment it for clients keywords

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Ausin

Adsense by itself doesn't make the site more or less atractive.

However, this is another important thing - sites with earnings can be flipped for more money, however this is long term (usually).

Don't worry too much about keywords, you won't get that perfect every time. Pick a more general, evergreen niche and sell it as a base - then upsell your writing services to augment it for clients keywords

I'm looking forward to next year! New Plan, New Year what could be better than an optimistic outlook in such a gloomy economy?

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caseycase

13 years ago

Yes, there is definitely a market for this! Check out the WSO and the Warrior For Hire sections (and especially the Complete Sites For Sale section) here at the WF and you will see lots of folks selling full websites like you describe.

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by caseycase

Yes, there is definitely a market for this! Check out the WSO and the Warrior For Hire sections (and especially the Complete Sites For Sale section) here at the WF and you will see lots of folks selling full websites like you describe.

I think that's the only place I haven't visited on WF. Thanks for the heads up!

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TopKat22

13 years ago

yes, there is a market for it. I know people who sell WP sites on Flippa and in my offline networks. Most don't have any content except on the home page and no traffic or SEO and they sell 2-5 a week at $150-$350 each.

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TopKat22

yes, there is a market for it. I know people who sell WP sites on Flippa and in my offline networks. Most don't have any content except on the home page and no traffic or SEO and they sell 2-5 a week at $150-$350 each.

For real? Why am I writing articles for other people? Duh. Well I've had plenty of practice and I like writing AND i know how to SEO stuff. How fast can I turn them around? In a week or a month?

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TopKat22

yes, there is a market for it. I know people who sell WP sites on Flippa and in my offline networks. Most don't have any content except on the home page and no traffic or SEO and they sell 2-5 a week at $150-$350 each.

This can't be as easy as it sounds... or can it?

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Matt Ausin

13 years ago

Originally Posted by wimbledonwoman

This can't be as easy as it sounds... or can it?

It actually is, if you have the right market and reputation.. also think about the upsells, that will allow you to drive the initial price lower. Think loss leader product

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Ausin

It actually is, if you have the right market and reputation.. also think about the upsells, that will allow you to drive the initial price lower. Think loss leader product

I'm not sure I follow you on this, could you explain please? I do know what a loss leader is BTW what would I be upselling... future articles?

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Matt Ausin 13 years ago

Originally Posted by wimbledonwoman

I'm not sure I follow you on this, could you explain please? I do know what a loss leader is BTW what would I be upselling... future articles?

I meant you could upsell your writing, yes.

Loss leader is a product that you sell at a loss in order to get clients into your sales funnel where they generate enough income to cover the loss and then some.

That however requires some sales funnel testing so I won't recommend this as the very first step in your ready-made-wp-sites business, but definitely something to keep in mind.
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cashcow

13 years ago

Originally Posted by wimbledonwoman

This can't be as easy as it sounds... or can it?

Sadly it is not, as it seems you have already found out. These days you have to invest heavily in premium themes and plugins to compete with the other people selling startup websites and there's actually quite a bit in after selling service and hand holding that you have to do (but that can also be an opportunity for selling add on services/products as well).

Anyway, I can see that you are an excellent writer, have you considered selling your articles as PLR instead of as unique? You won't get as much up front, but you can make more in the long run if you have the patience to wait for your business to grow.

Lee

Edit: Hadn't considered the local business aspect of it as Lori pointed out above. That could also be a good route to explore.

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

Sadly it is not, as it seems you have already found out. These days you have to invest heavily in premium themes and plugins to compete with the other people selling startup websites and there's actually quite a bit in after selling service and hand holding that you have to do (but that can also be an opportunity for selling add on services/products as well).

Anyway, I can see that you are an excellent writer, have you considered selling your articles as PLR instead of as unique? You won't get as much up front, but you can make more in the long run if you have the patience to wait for your business to grow.

Lee

Edit: Hadn't considered the local business aspect of it as Lori pointed out above. That could also be a good route to explore.

I've already started on a business plan and done some research on the local business aspect. I've lived here 23 years so I know a lot of small biz owners - I was one myself for 7 years.

I can see how PLR could be a good earner but I've never really seen the true value in it from a users POV. Why rewrite a mediocre article when you can create something truly unique? But of course I'm a writer so it's easy for me to say.

I have to be passionate about something before I can make a go of it and helping local businesses certainly appeals. It'll get me out the darned house too!

Thanks for your kind and helpful words.

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Eddie Titan

13 years ago

Originally Posted by wimbledonwoman

Is there a market for building WP sites, including, say, 5 pillar articles, if the client was to buy the domain name and provided the keywords for the articles? How much could I charge?

I'm a freelance writer and just want to do something that might be a little more lucrative next year.

I love to write and build WP sites, so if anyone can give me some insight I'd sure appreciate it.

There is a big market for this kind of service.

However if you can learn how to find profitable niches and build quality wordpress websites around them, you can sell the websites on Flippa and make much more per sale.

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simonpiemon

13 years ago

A twist on this would be to build WP sites targetted very tightly at off-line niche businesses, perhaps local businesses. You could then target those businesses to sell them at a premium, especially if they already have a website, you could sell them on the benefits of having another blog site alongside.

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by simonpiemon

A twist on this would be to build WP sites targetted very tightly at off-line niche businesses, perhaps local businesses. You could then target those businesses to sell them at a premium, especially if they already have a website, you could sell them on the benefits of having another blog site alongside.

It's a great idea but my sales and marketing skills are terrible. I'd rather just build, write and sell.

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Check out WF Complete Sites for Sale and you'll see it's a somewhat saturated market in there. I would test a couple on Flippa before committing to it. I haven't seen a lot of startups on Flippa selling for big prices. I used to get $320 for startups every time, but those days have been gone for awhile.

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Check out WF Complete Sites for Sale and you'll see it's a somewhat saturated market in there. I would test a couple on Flippa before committing to it. I haven't seen a lot of startups on Flippa selling for big prices. I used to get $320 for startups every time, but those days have been gone for awhile.

I was enthusiastic at first but after searching all the Flippa completed sales and WF's listings I think you're right.

Oh well, back to the drawing board...

Thanks for taking the time to answer - I can always trust another woman to be more grounded!

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GeorgR.

13 years ago

I think that market is VERY saturated. A "serious" webmaster knows he can such sites for $50-$80....and in the past i actually DID get them at that price. Add another $10 for a few articles and you have a full blown, custom made wordpress site.

BUT...if you want to make money with sites...contact small businesses and business owners directly and DO NOT TOUCH the usual places like webmaster forums etc. Because those people know where to get those cheap...and biz owners are willing to pay better and more fair prices.

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

I think that market is VERY saturated. A "serious" webmaster knows he can such sites for $50-$80....and in the past i actually DID get them at that price. Add another $10 for a few articles and you have a full blown, custom made wordpress site.

BUT...if you want to make money with sites...contact small businesses and business owners directly and DO NOT TOUCH the usual places like webmaster forums etc. Because those people know where to get those cheap...and biz owners are willing to pay better and more fair prices.

You're the second person to suggest this, thank you. I will look into it. I'm going to see if I can get some help with that idea.

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mikeb222

13 years ago

Hi Guys,

I'm still struggling with IM.
I have so many ideas running round my head but no concrete ones.

I notice that Wimbledon woman started this thread with the question "Is Building Ready-Made WP Sites a Good Business Idea?

Now if you google in this exact keyword (unlikely i know, but bear with me) No 1 in google is this thread complete with wimbledonwomans and everyone elses links.

So is this using a forum a good way to start IM activities or am I reading too much into it?

Hope you don't mind me using you as an example WW?

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mikeb222

Hi Guys,

I'm still struggling with IM.
I have so many ideas running round my head but no concrete ones.

I notice that Wimbledon woman started this thread with the question "Is Building Ready-Made WP Sites a Good Business Idea?

Now if you google in this exact keyword (unlikely i know, but bear with me) No 1 in google is this thread complete with wimbledonwomans and everyone elses links.

So is this using a forum a good way to start IM activities or am I reading too much into it?

Hope you don't mind me using you as an example WW?

I don't mind you using me as an example at all Mikeb222. This proves the power and importance of keywords. Use the same principle in blogs, forums and in the articles you write. The hard part is finding the most effective keywords and the right product to promote if you're looking at affiliate marketing.

Make a plan, decide what you want to do and get on with it. Ideas in your head will never earn you a bean (sorry to sound harsh). That's why I posted this question. If I hadn't, I could have wasted a lot of time and money building worthless WP sites.

Yesterday I visited a local strip center - 10 businesses. Only 2 had websites! I was up at 5am building a business plan and checking how much I could charge by looking at other local site-building services. I also figured out what I would offer in my Basic Package and how long it will take me to build a WP site with everything included. I posted a keyword-rich ad for my services on a local business website I built for a friend that's receiving very good local traffic.

If I get any bites I'll build my own WP site and advertise further. It's cost me ZERO so far, just 10 hours of research.

Don't be afraid to ask questions on WF - you may get conflicting replies but there are always people here to help. Focus on one idea and please don't bounce around spending money on Warrior offers until you know exactly what you want to do.

2011 was a great year for me. I made a plan and exceeded my expectations, now I intend 2012 to be even better for me financially.

Good luck!

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Martin Luxton

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mikeb222

Hi Guys,

I'm still struggling with IM.
I have so many ideas running round my head but no concrete ones.

I notice that Wimbledon woman started this thread with the question "Is Building Ready-Made WP Sites a Good Business Idea?

Now if you google in this exact keyword (unlikely i know, but bear with me) No 1 in google is this thread complete with wimbledonwomans and everyone elses links.

So is this using a forum a good way to start IM activities or am I reading too much into it?

Hope you don't mind me using you as an example WW?

Mikeb22,

How many people are searching for "Is Building Ready-Made WP Sites a Good Business Idea?" That sentence in quotes returns only 2 results.

If you look for a more likely buyers' search term such as "ready-made website" the OP's search term is nowhere to be seen, though there is a WF article on page 5 of Google results:

http://www.warriorforum.com/articles...-mistakes.html

Martin

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shmerns

13 years ago

Absolutely there is a market for this! You can use this technique to help local businesses & it's super easy to rank for "local" keywords like "Savannah plastic surgeon" or "Italian restaurant in Boulder" etc. Local businesses have no idea how to rank in the search engines and you can provide this service as well as give them a great site for Internet presence.

If you have see the power you have in helping local businesses and the amount of business that needs you, you have a ready made business. You'll be busier than you can imagine and then you can outsource your work. But of course I'm getting ahead of myself here.

I would advise that you purchase the domain name and research the keywords as well as charge yearly for hosting the site and renewal of the domain name. This way you'll have recurring income as well.

Let me know how you do with it, I create facebook fanpage mini-sites for local businesses because they have no idea how to do it. If you wind up with businesses who go with your service, give me a shout and we can partner with my service.

All the best to your success, you have a gold mind at your fingertips!!

Lori P.

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wimbledonwoman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by shmerns

Absolutely there is a market for this! You can use this technique to help local businesses & it's super easy to rank for "local" keywords like "Savannah plastic surgeon" or "Italian restaurant in Boulder" etc. Local businesses have no idea how to rank in the search engines and you can provide this service as well as give them a great site for Internet presence.

If you have see the power you have in helping local businesses and the amount of business that needs you, you have a ready made business. You'll be busier than you can imagine and then you can outsource your work. But of course I'm getting ahead of myself here.

I would advise that you purchase the domain name and research the keywords as well as charge yearly for hosting the site and renewal of the domain name. This way you'll have recurring income as well.

Let me know how you do with it, I create facebook fanpage mini-sites for local businesses because they have no idea how to do it. If you wind up with businesses who go with your service, give me a shout and we can partner with my service.

All the best to your success, you have a gold mind at your fingertips!!

Lori P.

This is the route I'm going to take I think. I've done some research, plus I have already created a very successful site for a friend's local business that has doubled his foot traffic and profits (He's getting a bill for some extra directory submissions I made this morning!)

I don't know why I haven't thought about this seriously before. I have the experience and I like doing it and it costs nothing to try!

I am going to PM you with my personal email address, if you could send me yours. If this goes well I'm sure the FB idea will be a good upsell.

I wish I knew how to close this thread! I think I have plenty of ammo and ideas for my 2012 plan of action.

Thank you so much - Karen

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