Using Internet Marketing for MLMs

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I could use some input on this one. I am thinking of joining an internet marketing company. As you all know, the first things you need to do is bug your family and friends. Well, that is why we have internet marketing. But I am not sure on how to go about that. If anyone has an idea or if anyone currently does market there MLM through IM'ing, then by all means, throw some ideas.

Thanks,
Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Learn how to market good enough that you can persuade
    others you can help them be successful. They have to
    "believe" you more than they believe other promoters
    to buy into your MLM instead of the 100s of other options
    available.

    Build an opt-in email list where you reveal your character
    and something of how to build a business online. You can
    use a free report or course as a "carrot" to build a list
    if you want.

    Then you persuade people on your list to go into business
    with you.

    Most MLM marketing online is pretty retarded. If you read WF
    and do some quality thinking you should be able to come up
    with something better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Jay, I am speaking from my own personal experience of having been
    involved with various MLMs over the course of 6 years.

    Don't drag your family into them. Treat them the way you would treat
    selling a regular IM related product.

    Concentrate on stressing the benefits of the product of the MLM itself, not
    the opportunity to make money.

    If the MLM has no viable product, then it is just a pyramid scheme and will
    ultimately end up getting shut down. I have seen more than my share of
    these turn to dust.

    If you focus on the MLM as being a product, you'll do a lot better.

    However, if you insist on going the "opportunity" route, then focus on
    building a relationship with the person. Explain how you can mean the
    difference between them succeeding and failing and explain why. Make
    them understand what you can bring to the relationship and how you
    will be there to personally help them through the process.

    Personally, I find most MLMs worthless, but that's just me. There are
    very few out there that have real products that you can actually sell.

    That's why when you find one like that, take advantage of it as they are
    very rare.

    Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the subject and again it is based on my 6
    years of actually belonging to several MLM companies...none of which I
    promote for the opportunity, but for the actual products that they offer.

    Something to consider.
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  • Profile picture of the author jay7707
    thanks guys!! great info
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    • Profile picture of the author BrashImpact
      Jay,
      Steven hit on some great points. Having been in MLM or network marketing for 10 ys plus myself, i will share some thoughts for u that i share with potential newbies. Btw, i have been out for 4 ys, and am getting back in as we speak sometime in the next week. I stayed out because like steven said, if there isn't a real product , its a pozi scheme. I will go one past that, it really needs to be a product that is highly consumable, that everyone is already using everday. A product u dont have too convice people too try. If someone ever does MILK i am in. Heres some bullet points to think about, my last Team i built had in Excess of 10,000 distributors in it, and my sponsor had 49k on his team, so here is the inside track.

      1) You have too know why you are joining network Marketing and what u expect too get out of it. a business , learn sales skills, perhaps learning how too present in front of the room to 50-1000 people. Residual income/ u must have a real product here , direct mentorship by proven leader in the industry-- This can be priceless, many things i was taught by my sponsor early on i have applied to Real estate Investing, my seminar trainings and to my Offline Gold business. So first identify what u want out of your business.

      2) Picking a company--
      There are a lot of good compaines out there, you need a real product,

      A strong Compensation plan/ some form of Binary Hybrid is the best, u get paid on everything that sells on your team and from Spillover, spillover is something i always take into account.

      A company with massive integrity-- your gonna wanna make sure your sponsor has direct contact with the Corporate side of the company, this is a huge asset, thats why--not just anyone should be your sponsor.

      A Sponsor with a Proven Track Record, links to the company, and someone who can mentor you, someone who is qualified to mentor you. About 20 sponsors in each company really fit this mold. Lastly your sponsor needs to be available for you, not at your beckon call, but ready willing and able to coach you. So you have to have access to your Sponsors phone # and let them know u expect them too answer or at least return your calls in a timely manner.

      Price point to get started- how much does it cost, 99.00-299.00 with product coming too your door for that price is perfect. Less than 99 u cant make money, over 299 in this economy most people cant afford to get started.

      I could keep going on and on, theres a lot too look at, remember this is a business.

      If u have any questions, feel free to shoot me a Pm, and u can call me if u like. Happy to help out fellow warriors any way i can. Hope this helps in your decision, it can be a fantastic business if approached correctly. Approached Wrong, and it will be a nitemare.

      Regards,
      Robert nelson
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy McDonald
        I'm not going to go into choosing a company to work with, but I think that is really one of the most important steps.

        Next is building a list of people, I won't even call them prospects, at this point because you can get curious people on your list, and that doesn't make them prospects.

        There are many ways to build your list:

        1. PPC -> Squeeze Page -> Opt-In.
        2. Generate Content -> Natural Search -> Opt-In.
        3. Work with other webmasters (such as my site list in my signature.)
        etc.

        I'm sure you want a list yesterday.
        I'm sure you want a responsive list yesterday.

        The reality is that steady (daily) list building and constant relationship building with your list has and will always be a time tested and proven method.

        MLM is a great leveraging tool, but it does take time and it's a numbers game.

        I work with one MLM at this time online and have used 100% to generate my leads, but have also used teleconferences to talk to my people and I do think that IM with MLM go great hand in hand if you (or anyone else comes at it with the correct understanding and expectations... and of course backed with plain old work.)
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      • Profile picture of the author jay7707
        Originally Posted by RobertNelsoninc View Post

        Jay,
        Steven hit on some great points. Having been in MLM or network marketing for 10 ys plus myself, i will share some thoughts for u that i share with potential newbies. Btw, i have been out for 4 ys, and am getting back in as we speak sometime in the next week. I stayed out because like steven said, if there isn't a real product , its a pozi scheme. I will go one past that, it really needs to be a product that is highly consumable, that everyone is already using everday. A product u dont have too convice people too try. If someone ever does MILK i am in. Heres some bullet points to think about, my last Team i built had in Excess of 10,000 distributors in it, and my sponsor had 49k on his team, so here is the inside track.

        1) You have too know why you are joining network Marketing and what u expect too get out of it. a business , learn sales skills, perhaps learning how too present in front of the room to 50-1000 people. Residual income/ u must have a real product here , direct mentorship by proven leader in the industry-- This can be priceless, many things i was taught by my sponsor early on i have applied to Real estate Investing, my seminar trainings and to my Offline Gold business. So first identify what u want out of your business.

        2) Picking a company--
        There are a lot of good compaines out there, you need a real product,

        A strong Compensation plan/ some form of Binary Hybrid is the best, u get paid on everything that sells on your team and from Spillover, spillover is something i always take into account.

        A company with massive integrity-- your gonna wanna make sure your sponsor has direct contact with the Corporate side of the company, this is a huge asset, thats why--not just anyone should be your sponsor.

        A Sponsor with a Proven Track Record, links to the company, and someone who can mentor you, someone who is qualified to mentor you. About 20 sponsors in each company really fit this mold. Lastly your sponsor needs to be available for you, not at your beckon call, but ready willing and able to coach you. So you have to have access to your Sponsors phone # and let them know u expect them too answer or at least return your calls in a timely manner.

        Price point to get started- how much does it cost, 99.00-299.00 with product coming too your door for that price is perfect. Less than 99 u cant make money, over 299 in this economy most people cant afford to get started.

        I could keep going on and on, theres a lot too look at, remember this is a business.

        If u have any questions, feel free to shoot me a Pm, and u can call me if u like. Happy to help out fellow warriors any way i can. Hope this helps in your decision, it can be a fantastic business if approached correctly. Approached Wrong, and it will be a nitemare.

        Regards,
        Robert nelson
        This is good stuff.

        To all of you as well, thanks so much for the awesome information.

        But, I got a very important question...

        I was thinking of joining a company called AmeriPlan (a health care company).
        You folks should check it out and give me some of your opinions.
        I was in the company once before and quit because I didn't want to bug family and friends and couldn't afford a business at the time. Now that I know a decent amount of IM'ing and how it works, I am thinking of rejoining.

        Thanks so much for you thoughts!

        Jay
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        • Profile picture of the author tush
          Originally Posted by jay7707 View Post

          This is good stuff.

          To all of you as well, thanks so much for the awesome information.

          But, I got a very important question...

          I was thinking of joining a company called AmeriPlan (a health care company).
          You folks should check it out and give me some of your opinions.
          I was in the company once before and quit because I didn't want to bug family and friends and couldn't afford a business at the time. Now that I know a decent amount of IM'ing and how it works, I am thinking of rejoining.

          Thanks so much for you thoughts!

          Jay
          Jay7707,
          I will first respond to your question. Your success in any company depends on whether you believe in the product and you are passionate about it and your ability to market the product. That is why every network marketer thinks that their company is the best but most of them are not making money. What matters is you and the skills you have.

          That said, some companies are so strict. A friend of mine has compiled a list of mlm companies, giving their pros and cons. You have to be very careful especially since some companies do not allow Internet marketing. Top Network Marketing Companies according to Annette Tush

          I I stopped contacting friends and family for my business. My website generates prospects for me. An I am still a newbie on the net! If you check it out, you realise that I have different forms targeting different prospects. If you are interested in building a website, site build it has a package specific for network marketers.

          Anyway, there is no secret to succeed in mlm on line at all. What you need is skills, how to deal with people using the consultative approach, phone mastery. From here, you set up your website, or blog or capture page, keep building relationships with these people. Do not pitch, just quality information, once you have built credibility, most of them will even request to join you in your business. I have seen this with my own eyes. And this makes mlm very enjoyable!


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        • Profile picture of the author BrashImpact
          Originally Posted by jay7707 View Post

          This is good stuff.

          To all of you as well, thanks so much for the awesome information.

          But, I got a very important question...

          I was thinking of joining a company called AmeriPlan (a health care company).
          You folks should check it out and give me some of your opinions.
          I was in the company once before and quit because I didn't want to bug family and friends and couldn't afford a business at the time. Now that I know a decent amount of IM'ing and how it works, I am thinking of rejoining.

          Thanks so much for you thoughts!

          Jay

          Jay,
          with any company, and i mean any there are a ton of pros and cons both. My biggest issue with ameriplan is 2fold, a) their comp plan sucks, period. b) saturation , i would suggest reading my post, and using that as a formula for picking a company. I dont recruit from the warrior forum period. If u have interest you know how too reach me. Definately use my post as a model for picking any company. I wish u the best of luck, it is a great industry, and only 1 of my income streams of 10 plus.

          Regards,
          Robert Nelson
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  • Profile picture of the author RobRamos
    As a newbie myself to Network and Internet Marketing, I found this entire thread very informative, thanks to all who posted.

    Is there a way I can save this thread and have it sent to me via PM
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    I answered my own question
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  • Profile picture of the author KatieWilliams
    Hi Jay

    I've been a full-time network marketer for a couple of years now, and am just focusing on internet marketing to grow my business - so bear in mind this comes from an experienced MLMer but a newbie IMer!

    Please don't go hassle your friends and family! In my opinion, this is one of the reasons network marketing has a bad name in some circles. Make friends and family aware of what you're doing, and if they're interested they'll start asking questions. If you already have the IM skills, there's no need for you to be hassling people who aren't interested.

    From what I've been doing online, I think the key is to use IM to reach as many people as possible and allow them to quality themselves as being interested, and also to handle some of the training for your new team members so you're not investing your time handling the same old questions, etc. But I don't think IM can ever replace the relationship aspect of MLM, and I don't think it should. It's still vital that you connect with your new team members and show them that you care about their results.

    But, of course, you can use IM to tell some of your story and start to build up the know, like and trust relationship that is really important.

    Hope that helps

    Katie
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  • Profile picture of the author Vision888
    Internet Marketing is great for generating leads for your MLM.

    However, many MLMers misuse Internet Marketing. They try to use Internet Marketing to totally replace the person-to-person aspect of MLM. That does NOT work.

    MLM is ultimately a relationship business. To build a loyal downline, you need a tight relationship with your downline (at least your personal recruits) - tighter than a normal customer-seller relationship. This is the kind of relationship that requires at least some person-to-person interaction. Internet marketing to the masses cannot replace the person-to-person aspect of MLM.

    The people I know who have long-term success with MLM + internet marketing use internet marketing to generate leads, then they start building the person-to-person relationship with those leads (over the phone or face-to-face).

    The people I know who try to use internet marketing to replace the person-to-person aspect invariably fail. Their people drop out like flies.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrashImpact
      Originally Posted by Vision888 View Post

      Internet Marketing is great for generating leads for your MLM.

      However, many MLMers misuse Internet Marketing. They try to use Internet Marketing to totally replace the person-to-person aspect of MLM. That does NOT work.

      MLM is ultimately a relationship business. To build a loyal downline, you need a tight relationship with your downline (at least your personal recruits) - tighter than a normal customer-seller relationship. This is the kind of relationship that requires at least some person-to-person interaction. Internet marketing to the masses cannot replace the person-to-person aspect of MLM.

      The people I know who have long-term success with MLM + internet marketing use internet marketing to generate leads, then they start building the person-to-person relationship with those leads (over the phone or face-to-face).

      The people I know who try to use internet marketing to replace the person-to-person aspect invariably fail. Their people drop out like flies.

      Vision well said, i keep trying to tell folks you need to get withsome who can show and teach u people skills. The net, email, texting are making this a lost art. Trust me that skill set makes me thousands each week, in my different business's and people would be smart to take some time and learn it. Great Point you made. Thanks
      Robert
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Not to hijack, but CAN you save a thread and pm a copy (or email) to yourself? If so, how?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent_W
    Hi Jay,

    I just started doing a lot of heavy IM with
    my MLM after my mentor really started
    teaching good fundamentals of Internet
    marketing. I took some time off in the fall
    for family issues, but have picked back up
    in 2009.

    I firmly believe that you can build a business
    and build it online....problem is, it does take
    time.

    Whether someone approaches family and
    friends needs to be a personal decision for
    them...not a "you have to" that so many
    companies teach (although, I think if your
    company has great products, you should
    approach them to try it it out with you...
    different topic for a different day).

    PM me sometime and I can give you some
    personal results of some things I have been
    doing. I've been fairly impressed with my
    results so far with just the couple of focus
    areas I'm using.

    Brent
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Kudos for this thread. Good info and no bashing. And you're right you need the personal touch in and network marketing endeavor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Carpenter
    A friend who has no IM experience was asking last week about a mlm opportunity he was joining and using the internet. This is perfect for him.

    Thanks

    Jim
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  • Profile picture of the author PaidToEmpower
    Hmmmm...great post. I have been in the same mlm company for 18 years. I am new to IM and have been trying to crack the code on this.
    Lots of good info here. Thanks to all who have posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author jay7707
    Annette, I really like the site and find it very useful. Thanks so much!
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    • Profile picture of the author Brent_W
      First, one thing that everyone should know
      about IM with network marketing:

      On a very, very limited basis should you
      ever optimize for you company, company's
      products, etc. If you decide to move
      companies, you have to start from square
      one.

      Our team uses a variety of generic squeeze
      pages, some targeting network marketing
      directly, some targeting work at home moms,
      some targeting general people wanting to
      make money online or from home.

      Only one of our future websites will have
      information about one of our products, yet
      none will mention the company.

      Regarding AmeriPlan...well, I was with them
      for a long time until their top earner decided
      to leave. I know him and his wife beyond the
      business, and trusted that if was leaving and
      starting something new, that he was leaving
      for a very strong reason.

      I read between the lines and decided to leave
      as well.

      And I'm glad I did.

      Brent
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomasW
    Pleasev read this article from Perry Marshal. Sounds like Google is about to put the screws to much of the MLM (and more!) field.

    Google is cracking down on multiple industries they have deemed "Illegitimate." This guy isn't the only one BTW…

    I have no affiliation with Perry Marshal. This is news you can use.
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    • Profile picture of the author shaddai
      Hmmm..interesting stuff. Especially since it's something I'm working on myself. If you don't mind, I'd like to throw this idea in the mix: an MLM's autoship requirements can play to the internet marketer's advantage because 1 conversion can mean months of income.

      Pretty cool deal if you ask me.
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      • Profile picture of the author DiamondPed
        Hi there,

        In my own limited experience of MLM (I was earning £3k pm $4.9kpmUS 5 years ago) I had found that the personal touch was VERY succesesfull rather than the Internet ~ less personal approach ~ was.

        To qualify this I had my success 5+ years ago & had tried to expand this through Internet Marketing many times, without success.

        I believe ~ through my experiences ~ that for MLM the personal touch is best ( I was involved with the "Concord" system a few years ago, not many stuck with it after sign up) but unfortunately this means a lot of "work" that many people (myself included) baulk at.

        Hope this helps ...... if not ask specific questions please ....

        cheers,

        PeterC
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      • Profile picture of the author tush
        Annette, I really like the site and find it very useful. Thanks so much!
        Thanks. Please visit quite often. I am always updating it. And if you want, feel free to sign up for my newsletter. MY MLM EZINE REVEALS TOP NETWORK MARKETING SUCCESS SECRETS You will see how I make money from people like you and eventually sign them up in my businesses...lol...

        Blessings
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent_W
    Sounds like its only AdWords that is
    effected...and only sites that redirect
    to their company site.

    Not a problem for me.
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