Beginning IM - Problem starting

by squadz
11 replies
I've been stalking these forums for a while now, and decided to register today. I've read different articles on getting traffic to a website, what to do once the website's up and running, and feel pretty comfortable with everything to do with the website part (I'm also a web designer, so it makes it easier for me to draw something up).

However, I'm having trouble find a niche market, or something to start. I've read a couple of posts on how to find a niche, such as looking at Amazon/Ebay/Checking forums for what people want, and can't seem to find anything that hasn't been done, or that isn't good enough.

Considering I'll be writing myself, I tried to look for topics interesting to me (mostly sports, so I tried sports equipment etc.) and after that I just kept trying every category.

Just looking for some helpful suggestions. Are there any filler keywords I should try adding when checking keyword volume?
#beginning #problem #starting
  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Hayslett
    Originally Posted by squadz View Post

    I've been stalking these forums for a while now, and decided to register today. I've read different articles on getting traffic to a website, what to do once the website's up and running, and feel pretty comfortable with everything to do with the website part (I'm also a web designer, so it makes it easier for me to draw something up).

    However, I'm having trouble find a niche market, or something to start. I've read a couple of posts on how to find a niche, such as looking at Amazon/Ebay/Checking forums for what people want, and can't seem to find anything that hasn't been done, or that isn't good enough.

    Considering I'll be writing myself, I tried to look for topics interesting to me (mostly sports, so I tried sports equipment etc.) and after that I just kept trying every category.

    Just looking for some helpful suggestions. Are there any filler keywords I should try adding when checking keyword volume?
    It can be confusing when you first start. Be careful of "analysis paralysis".... it stopped my success for quite some time.

    Find something you are interested in, it is okay if it has been done before.....competition is actually a good thing!!

    When checking keyword volume, check from every angle you can think off, keep drilling down into the keywords.

    It is better to get started and go through the process to get the feel for it....than to do nothing at all.

    Do your research, pick something, move forward......

    Hope that help a bit. Let me know if there is anything I can for you.

    Lisa Hayslett
    Signature

    Your Success Matters To Me! Meet me at my Blog: www.lisahayslett.com

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5191332].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author rainman
    Check out storecoach(.)com It is a brand new training site that is totally FREE...

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    Over the last 8 years, they've built over 50 profitable ecommerce stores...

    They've had several stores make over $100,000 in net profit per year...

    They've been featured on Fox Business News and in The New York Times for the repeatable process we've developed...

    In the FREE Store Coach training, they'll show you the exact process they used to have this kind of success...

    Store Coach gives you the opportunity to basically look over Coach's shoulder as he builds an online store step by step...

    Make sure to read the Highlights below each video to see key points from each training video...
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5191352].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    I agree with not getting stuck by analyzing too much.

    Yes, it is faster and easier to make money if you can rank well with a keyword, but if you are planning to get most of your traffic some other way than the keyword search is not as important as long as it is something that people are buying.

    Sell what people are already buying. Put up a quick site, and get some targetted traffic directly from forums related to that niche and see how it goes.

    Since you already know web design, throughing up a fast squeeze page for a niche should be a snap.

    I can usually put up a squeeze page and start some forum posting and get sign ups in the same day and I had NO technical skill.

    Before this, in all my other businesses, I hired it done.

    If however, in the future you ever want to pay an expert to find money making niches for you. I might be able to hook you up. I say might because this man is only helping a very few people and at a pretty hefty price (and no, there is no affiliate commission on this).
    Signature
    44 days in and we broke the $10K a month recurring bench mark.

    Guaranteed 60% Opt In Rate Traffic-Real People-Fresh Today-High Quality Biz Opp traffic![/URL]
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5191372].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author stephenwaldo
    Health, Wealth and Love are the 'Big 3' niches, and anything in there will almost certainly make money. Don't be intimidated by competition, you'll find that more competition is actually a good thing, because its one of the ways you know ahead of time whether a niche will be super profitable or not.

    If you already know that sporting equipment sounds like something you'd like writing about, then stop trolling these forums and go build a muther f@&%ing website already! Pardon my french.

    Do you want to know why 95% (or whatever statistic you've heard) of IMers fail?

    They don't take action. Sometimes the only way to learn what you need to learn is to get your hands dirty and just do it.

    In fact, in a niche like sporting equipment I would even keep my KW research to a minimum. I promise you that the traffic is there, and it sounds like you're someone who is especially susceptible to analysis paralysis, so just avoid the possibility to freeze up and start actually putting something out on the web...Today! Seriously.

    Take action as soon as possible.

    You can always build more, better websites later.

    Hope that helps.

    Kindly,
    - Stephen
    Signature
    Need an awesome ghostwriter to fill in for you?

    Check out StephenWaldo.com
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5191567].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author ATH
      Originally Posted by stephenwaldo View Post

      Health, Wealth and Love are the 'Big 3' niches, and anything in there will almost certainly make money. Don't be intimidated by competition, you'll find that more competition is actually a good thing, because its one of the ways you know ahead of time whether a niche will be super profitable or not.

      If you already know that sporting equipment sounds like something you'd like writing about, then stop trolling these forums and go build a muther f@&%ing website already! Pardon my french.

      Do you want to know why 95% (or whatever statistic you've heard) of IMers fail?

      They don't take action. Sometimes the only way to learn what you need to learn is to get your hands dirty and just do it.

      In fact, in a niche like sporting equipment I would even keep my KW research to a minimum. I promise you that the traffic is there, and it sounds like you're someone who is especially susceptible to analysis paralysis, so just avoid the possibility to freeze up and start actually putting something out on the web...Today! Seriously.

      Take action as soon as possible.

      You can always build more, better websites later.

      Hope that helps.

      Kindly,
      - Stephen
      this basically. i still remember worrying about not being able to get consistent traffic to a site...traffic is pretty easy. all you gotta do is get over the "internet" hurdle (p.s. it's an illusion) and get to the marketing part of internet marketing.


      i recommend aiming for something that you would love to help people succeed with. when i work with stuff that seems tedious to me or lacks purpose, i have the pretty harsh tendency to procrastinate or browse warriorforums etc instead of working. passion has to be > your desire for money or you're gonna be pushing a boulder up a hill
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5191593].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author MaryKathan
    If others have done work in the niche it can be a good sign - because that shows you that people are spending money in that niche.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5191622].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    I'll go in a different direction here and advise you to NOT start with SEO. You'll burn out quickly and it can take awhile to see results. You need to earn a bit first before stepping into SEO. It'll keep you motivated. Here's a very basic outline of what I'd do if I were just starting out:

    1. Pick your niche. Not just a product, but a niche. Random example: First time parents.

    2. Decide what you want to promote. Books? Products? Just Adsense? There's definitely a ton of parenting eBooks available - or books / products on Amazon.

    3. Grab your domain. Don't worry about it being an EMD. I personally think EMD's are a little overrated. Plus, you're not going to be focusing on SEO. At least not initially.

    4. Set up your site. Wordpress would be my suggestion. Pick your focus. Do you want to create a mini content site with articles and Adsense? Do you want to review different parenting eBooks? Do you want to review products that can help first time parents? Focus on just one aspect at first. For example, 5 products that can be helpful to first time parents.

    5. Write your reviews and finish your site. Each product should have it's own review page. Make sure they're quality reviews. I even like to throw in a YouTube video for each. There's some information on writing good reviews floating around the forum.

    6. Spend some time looking for ACTIVE parenting forums or groups. Many forums will show you how many people are online at once. 50+ is an indication that it's an active forum. Make sure these forums allow signatures. If so, register. But don't create a signature initially.

    7. Spend about a week posting on the forums you've registered at. If you've registered at 5 forums, spread it out. 3-5 posts a day on each should be good if they're pretty active. Be helpful, and avoid creating new topics. All you're doing at this point is helping out and building a little bit of rep.

    8. After you've established yourself as a quality poster. Start adding your website to your signature. Make your signature catchy & creative.

    9. Keep posting. If you keep up with posting you'll notice a steady rise in the amount of traffic that is coming to your site. Yeah it can be a little mundane. But this is absolutely the EASIEST way to bring traffic in to a new site. It won't be an immense amount of traffic, but it will be VERY targeted.

    You're bound to start seeing some sales roll in if you keep it up. I know this, because it's something that I did myself. (And still do, actually. Just on a smaller scale.)

    Edit: Gee. I didn't realize it'd be that long.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5191840].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author squadz
      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      I'll go in a different direction here and advise you to NOT start with SEO. You'll burn out quickly and it can take awhile to see results. You need to earn a bit first before stepping into SEO. It'll keep you motivated. Here's a very basic outline of what I'd do if I were just starting out:

      1. Pick your niche. Not just a product, but a niche. Random example: First time parents.

      2. Decide what you want to promote. Books? Products? Just Adsense? There's definitely a ton of parenting eBooks available - or books / products on Amazon.

      3. Grab your domain. Don't worry about it being an EMD. I personally think EMD's are a little overrated. Plus, you're not going to be focusing on SEO. At least not initially.

      4. Set up your site. Wordpress would be my suggestion. Pick your focus. Do you want to create a mini content site with articles and Adsense? Do you want to review different parenting eBooks? Do you want to review products that can help first time parents? Focus on just one aspect at first. For example, 5 products that can be helpful to first time parents.

      5. Write your reviews and finish your site. Each product should have it's own review page. Make sure they're quality reviews. I even like to throw in a YouTube video for each. There's some information on writing good reviews floating around the forum.

      6. Spend some time looking for ACTIVE parenting forums or groups. Many forums will show you how many people are online at once. 50+ is an indication that it's an active forum. Make sure these forums allow signatures. If so, register. But don't create a signature initially.

      7. Spend about a week posting on the forums you've registered at. If you've registered at 5 forums, spread it out. 3-5 posts a day on each should be good if they're pretty active. Be helpful, and avoid creating new topics. All you're doing at this point is helping out and building a little bit of rep.

      8. After you've established yourself as a quality poster. Start adding your website to your signature. Make your signature catchy & creative.

      9. Keep posting. If you keep up with posting you'll notice a steady rise in the amount of traffic that is coming to your site. Yeah it can be a little mundane. But this is absolutely the EASIEST way to bring traffic in to a new site. It won't be an immense amount of traffic, but it will be VERY targeted.

      You're bound to start seeing some sales roll in if you keep it up. I know this, because it's something that I did myself. (And still do, actually. Just on a smaller scale.)

      Edit: Gee. I didn't realize it'd be that long.
      Wow! All the posts have been helpful, but I think this basically sums up what I'm trying to do. Thanks very much for the suggestions, I plan on starting something today. No more over analyzing!
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5192143].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by squadz View Post

        Wow! All the posts have been helpful, but I think this basically sums up what I'm trying to do. Thanks very much for the suggestions, I plan on starting something today. No more over analyzing!
        No problem. Forum posting has been, and will continue to be, an effective method for targeted traffic. You just have to do it right.

        Once you've seen some success you can scale it back just a bit and dedicate some of the time to SEO and other methods.

        I think so many people struggle because SEO is tough and can be pretty time consuming. It's very easy to burn out if you're new and not seeing any results.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5192845].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author squadz
          Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

          No problem. Forum posting has been, and will continue to be, an effective method for targeted traffic. You just have to do it right.

          Once you've seen some success you can scale it back just a bit and dedicate some of the time to SEO and other methods.

          I think so many people struggle because SEO is tough and can be pretty time consuming. It's very easy to burn out if you're new and not seeing any results.
          My main issue was finding a niche/subject/anything. I think I'm okay as far as that goes now, we will see!
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5193001].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author squadz
            Question:

            Would it be a bad idea to be extremely specific with a domain? I read to start off, write about products I own or have used.

            So let's say I have a Compaq H3402 (made up), should I buy the domain compaq-h3402-review.com and write my review there?

            Would there pretty much be only two pages? One which is an actual review, and one that's a summary of the product?
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[5193447].message }}

Trending Topics