Oh, I am so into list building now...

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You could rely on search engines...FAIL...

You could rely on social media..FAIL...

You could rely on sheer luck...FAIL...

...or you could start building a list TODAY!

What are you waiting for!?!

Mark
#main internet marketing discussion forum #building #list
  • You could start a thread about list building and not give any helpful details.....FAIL.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    RoD
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    • LOL! Good one.

      OK. Fair enough...Start a blog and if you have 0 $$$, use PHPLIST. I have lists using PHPLIST for free and they work great...self hosted...no problems.

      There's your tip...
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    • A good way to go about it:

      1. Create content that will make your users to beg for more

      2. Give away information

      3. Use Capture Pages/ Landing Pages to boost the perceived value of getting on your list

      4. Constantly ask people to subscribe

      5. Run a competition

      6. Run a Promotion

  • It doesn't matter if you're an affiliate, doing CPA offers, or have your own products or even run Adsense-only sites. Building a list can increase your profits in a dramatic fashion, especially over time.

    Large companies pay top dollar for e-mail lists (actually any lists that produce a profit). So even if you don't plan on selling your list there's really no excuse not to build one unless you have a business model that absolutely does not require one.

    In 2 markets that I'm in, our lists account for 90% of our over all profits. So by not building a list, people are leaving a s-load of money on the table!

    RoD
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    • Agreed. I have notice a significant hop increase, list-based, that is increasing my bottom line.

      There is absolutely no reason not to...FYI fellow Warriors!!!

      Mark
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    • How do you build a list in reverse phone lookup as an affiliate?
  • List Building. One of the things I wish I had done when I first got started as a priority but didn't.

    Now I have some good sized lists and they are still growing nicely and, apart from the money aspect, it's cool having a load of great people who share an interest or two to converse with and get feedback from each other.
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    • For me, the true power of list building really comes into play when you get some JV's involved. Then you can really start almost printing money at will....if you have a big enough list of course.
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  • I agree but the cost of keeping a list can be a royal pain in the buttcheek.......I've seen list that cost 800 dollars every month just to stay afloat .......FREAKING HECK
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    • If a list costs $800 a month to stay afloat it should be making at least 10x that amount in net profits. It's also a business expense, so a portion of it should be able to be deducted. It's not an expense, it's an investment.

      If the list isn't profitable at that expense level then the person only knows how to build lists and not profit from them. They would need to take a closer look at what they're doing wrong.

      RoD
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  • I can say that listbuilding and doing this properly changed my business around.

    My only regret with my online businesses is not doing this sooner.
  • Have some great offers available if anybody is interested in putting their lists to work.
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  • List Building is marketing 101.
    If all the successful folks recommend it and swear by it, then why ignore it.
  • List building is everything... From there you can create your sales funnel.
  • List building should be part of your funnel mate! A properly executed funnel takes care of the list as you drive traffic in.
  • Don't properly train your list...FAIL.
    Don't use double-optin...FAIL.
    Blast to 100k emails you bought off eBay...FAIL!
    Don't properly setup SPF or DomainKeys...FAIL!
    Don't have a fallback autoresponder service...FAIL!
    Don't segment your list...FAIL!
    Wait 2-3 weeks between emails...FAIL!
    Use spammy keywords...FAIL!
    Use unrelated "From name"...FAIL!
    Poor grasp on grammar...FAIL!

    I could go on and on.
    Hell, I'm guilty of a few at times.
    Point is...it's not just about List Building.
    It's about building a responsive email list the right way.
    One person could be wildly successful on social media, SEO, ec...but fail at list building entirely because they can't get a single email into the inbox.
    List Building is not the answer to every person's problem.

    Take this forum, for example. They don't send a single email to anyone. Ever.
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    • I agree with pretty much everything you said except for the double opt in. I use single opt in in a lot of my niches and have tested it with double opt in and single opt in produced more revenue for me. So I wouldn't call it a fail, it's really up to the person to test it themselves and see what works best.

      There's negatives and positives with both a double opt in and a single opt in... so people, just test it for yourself!
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  • I've moved away from the phrase "list building" and more towards "relationship building". Even though you hear it all the time not to over promote to your list I still see it done all the time, even by some of the bigwigs in the industry. Nothing makes me unsubscribe faster.
  • actually I used all these things to build my first list.
  • OMG OMG... this thread fails...
  • Yep you make an excellent point, one I have only started to realise since being hit by one of the latest Panda updates.

    Having a list to fall back on is probably the most important strategy working online.

    Its a shame I can't post a very interesting graphic that you should see, I haven't got enough posts yet, but here are some quotes from that page.

  • do all types of marketing and traffic generation but never forget to build a list in the process. (Advice from a pro...crastinator)
  • i was always too scared to do it. Fearing the unknown. Not knowing how to do it. Well glad i got over that! Do it! Build your list!
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  • Well it's all bout traffic, isn't it?
    List building is a wise way to keep your traffic useful and keep your customers on target so you don't lose them.

    So yes, list building should be one of the 1st things to consider, after traffic.
  • This is one of those things that everyone always talks about. Sometimes you can see everyone saying how something is so profitable and will provide desired results, but you just don't do it. Guess you'll never see the benefits of something until you do it for yourself. I may start listbuilding to provide an income stream
  • lol - The only lists I keep are the ones who already bought something.

    But that is list building, too. So you're right - build lists.
  • Does phplist use a stable autoresponder feature yet ? I only found autoreponder mods to accomplish this.
  • you are going to build the list?
    from what traffic, if you don't trust in social media and search engines?
  • Truth be told, I am actually using my list to syndicate my articles to webmasters in our subject of interest...shhh...
  • The money is in the list and this is true forever
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