2012

That's 3 years from now, in other words an eternity in IM.

Probably better to focus on your business today.

Otherwise I don't understand the purpose of this thread, unless you are a "futurist".

Probably a scanner on your computer to read the bar code on your head.

I seem to remember something the same in 2000. LOts of stuff around but a bit of a fizzle.

Q

::MOLLER::

There ya go - flying car!

Its not the end of the world (as such), but the end of the Mayan calendar

Hmm could be a useful niche tho lol

Kim

I hope you're good swimmers
2012 - Official Movie Site

I just had a thought

We're hosting the Olympics here in the UK in 2012.

How pissed off are we gonna be if we spend billions of quid getting ready and it all just gets washed away

Well I am now going to write my ebook on how to survive 2012! I did a google search and find it crazy on how many people are fearing this. Its worse than the Y2K frenzy. But I am sure there are many ways to monetize this from social sites were people can all be scared together to ebooks on survival for 2012.

Jason

Interesting angle to be taking this from.

I personally feel that 2012 won't be much different from any other year. Its like others have said, theres been a few dates and years now when it was all meant to come crashing down around us, and whilst I am sure that will happen one day, I am fairly sure it won't be 2012 specifically. I think we'll just be climbing out of the recession at this rate anyway by 2012.

That's why it is a good idea to live in the NOW and enjoy life. Take massive action so that you can enjoy your life to the fullest.

It's just another negative instance to look forward too... it's easier to find something to bitch about than to face your own needs for improvement and accept failure. (or living underneath your potential)

If it's the end of the world, what is there to be worried about? lol

I've never taken the y2k and other 'end of the world' stuff seriously but what I find interesting about 2012 is that there are all types of people that believe something is going to happen (whether its good or bad) in 2012:

-astronomers
-scientists
-astrologists
-archaeologists
-all types of religions have predicted it
-one of the oldest books in the world, the "I Ching" (I think its about 5000 years old), which supposedly has predicted many events, also points to 2012
-UFOlogists
-Hopi Indians
-Mayans
-and probably more (this is all I can think of off the top of my head)


Personally, I'm not worried. I've also heard that there may be some type of spiritual awakening or positive change in our civilization in 2012.

I don't know what to believe in but these are exciting times we live in right now...

Pull your heads out.

Yah, but what if something drastic happens in the world(in general) like
a Nuke War or a big Volcano.. will it be the end of search engines and the
internet as whole?

Play around and analyze some words in the google keyword tool and you'll see that this is a HUGE topic of interest. The amount of people that are going to panic is going to be insane...

As I was searching, I ended up buying PredictionsOfNostradamus.com which was surprisingly still available - almost 10,000 google searches last month alone for those keywords ..

Now, where can I sell it? ...

lol, hold on to it for 2 years.. then sell it when the topic is hot.
tho if something bad does happen than you're humped xP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(book)

This is the Information age, and thats not likely to change anytime soon. As long as you are positioned as an expert in your field, then you will be fine.

Its been interesting to watch some of the "big dogs" over the past ten years as they have evolved and grown their IM business. The good ones have continued to learn and grow, and so they get more and more "valuable".

I think there may be something to the 2012 thing, but I doubt it will be observable... you can usually not tell when something has tipped or peaked until later.

Ron

I was wondering when someone would get around to posting this.. I do not think the internet or marketing will much matter if in-fact the year 2012 will be the end as we know it.

This has been predicted 5 or 6 years ago, there are articles, news reports, websites and etc that have been built since 2002 talking about this. It is really nothing new.

James

I personally don't believe that the world will end in 2012...

But then again...

I'm not God either...

Whatever the case...if it happens, it happens...

Nothing we can do about it no matter how technologically advanced we are...

Pavon

Domo Arigato Mr Roboto!!

Ahahahaha

The world (as a planet) won't end. No matter what happens in 2012, it'll probably still be here, though it might be in flames...

As Kurt said: "Einstein said it is POSSIBLE that this could cause our magnetic poles to shift. Since the crust of the earth basically "floats" on liquid magma, Einstein said the N. Pole could shift south and the south go north."

It's also possible that the Earth, if it experiences a pole shift, will not turn that far. If it turns only 90 degrees, what is today much of the equatorial zone would instantly freeze, while what is now the North and South poles would warm at an incredible rate, becoming tropical. Would the melting of the ice cause massive flooding in many areas? Possibly, but remember the water in the formerly equatorial zones would freeze, so it may be counter-acted, but I think there might still be short-term flooding until everything smooths out. But I've heard, for those of you in the U.S., that the waters of the Great Lakes will rush down the Missisippi River to the Gulf of Mexico, and there would be massive flooding for many miles both East and West of the river. Not a great place to be.

And if the Earth were to shift, would it do so slowly, over the course of many months or years or would it do so in a matter of minutes? If it happens quickly, the winds created could be like none you've ever known, devastating metro areas and virtually wiping every building off the map, not to mention killing a large percentage of the population (how many millions live in NYC, LA, Mexico City, Tokyo, Paris, Riyadh, etc?). The stench of rotting corpses would be tremendous and disease wouldn't be far behind, killing even more.

What about the possibility of nuclear power plants being damaged and the release of massive amounts of radiation? It could create no-man zones that last for thousands of years.

There have been quite a few instances of prehistoric mammals being found buried in ice in places like Siberia. Funny thing, those animals were tropical...that is evidence of prior pole shifts, so yes, they do happen. Upon closer examination of these mammals after extraction from the ice, undigested tropical plants bitten off just moments before the pole shift occurred were found in their stomachs. The animals themselves were in remarkable condition for being as old as they are. They were virtually flash-frozen and didn't decay.

But even if nothing as life-changing as a pole shift occurs, all it really takes to destroy civilization as we know it is for some kind of gamma ray or something to demolish the electric grid worldwide. Whoops! There went the ISPs and along with it the Internet, all of our products we have stored online, everything. No e-commerce.

We'd have trouble just getting gasoline and drinking water because everything is pumped with electricity.

And don't even think about waiting for FEMA to come to the rescue. They wouldn't have enough gas, either.

But you could make your own electricity with a generator, right? Sure, if you can get gas to run it. You'd be able to power up your laptops but there wouldn't be an internet to surf. Without gasoline, even those huge backup generators many businesses have will be useless.

Life would really suck without electricity. No refrigeration, no meat or ice cream to buy at the grocery, no lights so we can stay up all hours of the night. Everyone would be burning wood for heat. (No propane or natural gas. That's pumped electrically.) It would be like suddenly waking up and finding yourself stuck in the mid 1800's. Suddenly the price of horses would go through the roof. Cars would be worthless except for shelter.

Without electricity, we also lose all means of communications, not just across a state or province but around the world. We would not be able to keep in touch with loved ones and know if they were alive or dead. Satellites would be meaningless. Everything runs on electricity. Bring back the Pony Express?

The supply chain would break down. Many manufacturing plants need electricity to make their products (machines, etc.) and even if they could make the product, how would they get it to market without gasoline/diesel fuel for tractor-trailers/trains/airplanes?

It could get interesting. The weak would not survive the aftermath. Desperation leads to crime.

I'm hoping nothing this drastic happens, and we will just have to wait and see.

But meanwhile, isn't this a prime opportunity for ebooks about how to prepare for the coming catastrophe? Make people afraid and they will want to know as much as they can to help ensure their survival.

And I believe Nostradamus's stuff is in the public domain, eh?

Just make sure you have migrated to the cloud and you'll be fine as long as you have not been implanted.

I am more afraid of damn Yellow Stone National Park going off than anything else. Most likely the asteroid that is going to kill us all we will never even know about it. We only know of about 20 percent of them out there that could hit earth so the odds of dying by and asteroid are far greater than anything else.

And if Yellow Stone National Park goes up in smoke then I will be saying to myself "Damn, I knew I should have moved to Australia a long time ago"

The thing we should be worried about now is fixing this damn economy. Half my street has been given there pink slips. We maybe looking for food and health care in the next coming year if it doesnt get better any time soon

The 2012 thing reminds me of the Y2K stuff.
The mass media is aware that such a prediction will have the masses enthralled. It is a great marketing tool. Tons of books, movies, and how to avoid it products will be developed. The time will come and go and just like Y2K no one will remember.

There may be some significance to the date, however, the destruction of the earth and its people is a rather cataclysmic event. For all of this to happen on one day would be rather disruptive to the solar system. Even if events began today and spaced themselves out evenly until that date...that still would be rather catastrophic.

Y2K did usher in the dilution of a lot of U.S. citizen rights followed by world wide financial collapse (which they still call a recession). Maybe the devastation, end, collapse, change that is foreseen will be of some similar type...

Who knows for sure...

I get a big kick out of people that really get into this and start freaking out.
"What if a big comet hits the Earth and we all die"?

Hey folks, we are all going to die. There is no guarantee that any of us will see the end of the day let alone 3 years from now.

I'm a Cancer survivor. I already faced my fears and life is a lot better once you get over your fear of death and start appreciating everything you have right now.

Once you get over your fear of death you get over your fear of living.

Get out there and enjoy it.

Matt

Well while 2012ers are getting ready for the end of the world, in many Christian churches the ministry is now teaching end times classes. The Christian end time isn't near the same timeframe as the Mayan(or what has been publicized as Mayan), but there is an end time feel in both sectors. I can't speak for the other religions, etc, because I don't know enough about them. In the Mayan and Christain sectors, however, there are vastly growing marketing possibilities as more of these faithful search for knowledge and answers.

Please note - if the Christians are right, you have at the very least one thousand more years to market, however, there may be a quick loss of firm faithful at one point of time before that thousand years. You will then need to switch marketing techniques to target those still here effectively

When I googled 2012 the first thing it brought me to was... "2012 The Movie"

Well that settles everything. A full-length flick is being made about it.

1. If the world doesn't end in 2012, the movie will not get residual play on TV or DVD because it will be laughable.

2. If the world does in fact end in 2012, the movie will not get any residual play either.

Therefore I conclude... it is a waste of money to make "2012 The Movie."

See how easy it is to solve all the world's problems.

:-Don

Gonna die someday, and I'd much rather go out in a ball of flames or riding a giant wave. Cataclysmic events? Bring 'em on. I love earthquakes and typhoons. The others should be fun too.

Kevin,

Obviously you want us to die in a more gruesome and horrible way than you.

What a mean spirited person.

May you watch your precious little hamsters go before you.

Go down to the OT forum and just whisper 2012. The Tinfoil Hat
crew are already building their bunkers.

Tom

It just blinked at me....oh god I have been at the computer to long today!

2012? Hmmm, OH yeah I remember.....The Olypics lol

The same thing (or worse) happened in Y2K. Everyone got all freaked out and started building forts in the middle of nowhere and nothing at all happened. That was crazy. I worked at a bank at that time and everyone was pulling their money out of their account.

We laughed so hard when everyone came back to the bank to redeposit their money. If it's God's will. Let it be. But, I can say that it's definitely a profitable niche to promote.

Megiddo: The Omega Code 2 (2001)

Showing on TV now ....

James

I have heard a lot about 2012 even on few news channels but i don't believe 'coz it doesn't make any sense.

One very well-known fortune teller from my country that had been predicted tsunami in south east Asia, Obama election and the rest predicted that at 2012 population will be reduced to 40%.

Well, whatever must happen will be happened after all. But we human will continue to live and survive in one way or the other.

Time to start building the Ark... Who's with me

Wow is this thread still growing?

I saw it yesterday, googled 2012, and decided it was bunch of crap being peddled to us by marketers.

I wonder what we can learn from this...
Fear sells...
Weird whacked out theories sell if enough people buy into it and especially if hollywood makes a movie...

It's amazing how a fiction movie called 2012 is causing all of this hoopla ...

I guess I'll have to watch Water World again...

Mike Hill

Kurt - Interesting.

The Mayans picked "that day" because of the length of that particular calendar cycle. To the Mayans, science and spirituality was the same thing. They lived daily according to the energies charted for that particular day. They had a 56 year calendar already but it was not long enough for some of their scientific work so they mathematically derived a new long term calendar that was a multiplication of the 56 year and something else (can't remember). It rendered the end of that calendar in Dec 2012.
This date was not originally meant to mean the end of the world completely as marketing has proported - yes it was MARKETERS that popularized this ancient philosophy and they got it wrong. December 2012, is a point at which the vibrations of the Earth will allow it to take existence as an object invisible to most of us - just as we can't see ultraviolet light, but it is there.
Those who have achieved the higher vibrational levels will seem to disappear on that date, when they have just merely begun to vibrate at a frequency which will make it impossible for those who have not achieved this rate to see them. THose "left behind" will see an earth like it is now without those that have vibrated out - and those who vibrate out will see earth however one would see it in the next frequency out. The religious part comes in because of the spiritual necessities to be able to achieve the correct vibrational frequency.

They also used astronomy to chart daily energy levels and fields so they would know the proper activities to indulge in on any particular day to be in sync with the universe so that explains why science and philosophy is in correspondence - as it should be if we are to achieve balance on the planet, as the Indians full well realized, too.

There really shouldn't be much question of an energy event 2012, as an alignment with the center of the galaxy will align us with cosmic winds we usually do not experience. My guess would be the worst of that could be a dust cloud blowing into the path of the sun (boom, ouch).
There might be heightened radiation and that WOULD play havoc with internet, phones, tv's etc - at least running on the energy we have them on now. I have not really paid enough attention to find out how long that alignment will last. Days? Weeks? Months?

As far as Notradamus - I would love someone to point out to me where he talks about 2012 - all I caught was 2096 or around there.

Anyhow - What if our computers did fry? We would really miss friends that we made online, but is there anyone here that ACTUALLY can't survive without the internet? It's only been around for awhile and we did just fine before.

I would suggest that anyone severely worried about it should maybe start building a business that would translate to brick and mortar without problems.

Guys, I have found the thread interesting to read, but haven't kept up with all the back and forths so forgive me if this has been mentioned...

Does anyone know if einstein gave any statistics relating to the probability of a catastrophe on the day in question? As in, a 90% chance, or less? Something MIGHT be happening is a little vague and I find it surprising that no one would have looked into the probability of this more.

when i was "younger" i had a LOT of time and read many, many books in regards to similar subjects.

After all, i didn't get wiser or got any "insight" into the origin of aliens, ufos or how true "prophecies" are - in fact i became more a sceptic.

The human psyche is VERY complex, and so many aspects related to subjects like that rather deal with emotions, hopes, fears, the human mind in general.

>>
Sun, Earth and a BLACKHOLE in the center of the Milky Way would all be in align? This in itself is a very interesting point of conversation
>>
its a pretty known assumption that a black hole is in the center of ANY galaxy.
For the sake of this, lets assume its the case.

You might be surprised how often "sun and earth" and the center of the galaxy align.....as planets have been aligned multiple times already and EACH and ANY time people were freaking about basic kindergarten "trivial" astronomical things happening.

I am not saying that i disregard mayas and hopis...there might be long forgotten knowledge.....however i just cant stand "pseudo science" arguments because it makes things less credible.

Let's compare it to another (recent) doomsday date - Y2K.

You know the ones who made a fortune from Y2K? The ones selling survivalist books and supplies. I still remember seeing ads for MREs and such. First Aid kits, survivalist techniques, emergency medical techniques, etc.

This was all offline, mind you. I was not online at that point.

The ones who REALLY made a fortune? The ones who saw the trend before others did.

Now, do you see anyone trying to sell Y2K materials now? Of course not. It was a single event. If you even admit that you had a year's supply of toilet paper and Ramen noodles in your garage people laugh at you (even though they had the same thing :rolleyes.

2012 will be a bigger seller as the date draws near, but now is the time to plan.

It won't be something to retire on (residual sales), but it will work for a while. 3 years is a long time.

If you want to pursue 2012 material/sales, do it! Then move on to the next niche in 2013.

Just found this 2012 forum being advertised on adwords-

2012 Forum

Seems like a lot of people are believing in this stuff. Personally it doesn't bother me. We could all die crossing the road tomorrow.

I'm not gonna waste my time worrying about getting hit with a giant rock. lol.

The Rich Jerks Net said:
I was wondering when someone would get around to posting this.. I do not think the internet or marketing will much matter if in-fact the year 2012 will be the end as we know it.


So say I:

Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ said "No man knoweth not even the Father".
Enough said. Amen.

even if a giant comet would hit earth and 40% of the population will vanish, and even if religion, philosophy and science would change...

I "predict" there will still be marketing since it is a VERY natural thing for humans to have NEEDS.

And, by the way, i think all that "dreaming" of a new society where everything is great and happy comes solely from the fact that consciously (or sub-consciously) many people are not happy with the CURRENT state of things.

The worse the economy, the poorer the people, the greater the "longing" to a age where everything is "right".

From that point of view a GREAT niche and i predict the 2012 hype even FAR greater than any 2000 hype or 1999 hype before ever was.

Yes, there is global warming. It's a cycle that occurs every 20 years or so. Al Gore is making a fortune off of all the crap he is selling to people to help prevent global warming. Forget it! It ain't going to happen.

Well if the world goes, I hope it's a zombie apocalypse.. Yeah bring it on..

Be prepared.

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IT'S 2000 ALL OVER AGAIN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

This stuff kills me...it's almost as bad as organized religion. No one person KNOWS what the hell is going to happen.

Haha some people are idiots. 2012 means f'all.

A calendar is man made and time never stops...nothing will happen on 2012...I bet my life on it

I actually have something in common with nostradamus...

I am able to predict the future with the same accuracy.

Anyway, back to 2012. There is one thing I am looking forward to more than anything (at least as of now). That's the big screen release of The Hobbit.

Other than that...

Does anyone have a need for a large can of cheese powder? It's fully Y2K compliant, was purchased in 1999 and has a shelf life of 10 years - so it should still be edible.

All the best,
Michael

EDIT: I know it's going on a tangent, but it proves a point. I just used a very specific methodology for the following divination. It makes sense, though some of it is cryptic.

The me today IM keywords research the on just has wrong 2000AD one Zap!
A end we the and to total we now going miserly as year 2012
That NOW TV 10 face to due did prophecies number my 2012, 2015 my 2012 stuff.
Volcano general topic and bad when as anytime will I science thing.

Like I said, I used a specific technique to write the above "quatrain". You can see what it means.

As for the OP, you raise a good point, and it shows that there are markets a lot of are not thinking about, and growth and change are happening all the time.

Ditto what the last Matt said!

You can not spend your time being worried about this. If it happens it happens! Spend your time living today and spending the time that matters most Friends and Family

I happened to watch a TV series about 2012 on NATGeo ( maybe history channel? I'm a big fan of them, and I believe there are alien who are watching us now, ) 2012 is about the nature, but probably, not about global warming. If I remebered correctly, it is the time that the axis of milkwy galaxy, the sun, and the earth will overlap each other.

The things amazed me is: how maya people can predict this nature happening in several thousands years ago? and the modern science proved that it will be true. just amazing. there are too many things happened before on this earth we can not explain even in today's science.

Alien? Maybe. Or, maybe we are alien ourselves.


david

I am amazed the way the universe hangs together and allows earth to exist in the first place. Could all end in 2012, or by the time I click "Post Quick Reply"...

Update: we are still here.

Hmmm... if the events are anything like some of the doom and gloom I just viewed on several 2012 sites - it appears that there won't be an Internet!

Lights Out!