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Writing Articles

by codecreative
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Hi I'm new to link building and looking for some confirmations if what I'm learning is true hope you don't mind me asking! Is it true that the best type of back links come from 500 word articles? And that the structure of them, and use of keywords within them is equally important?

I'm looking around at seo article writing sites some claim for $15 they will write a 500 word unique article and submit it too 100s of article sites but it seems to good to be true and im betting this is regarded as spam by google?

Ok finally can someone please shortlist the best places to publish your articles that allow follow links, I've hard buzzle is a good one but it seems the best sites to use change from time to time as they amend the policies ive heard ezine now use nofollow
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    This post would do far better on the main board. Copywriting and article writing are not the same thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Warriors
    I think it's a safe bet that Google will be constantly be bringing in more Panda like updates to its algorithm to protect its listings from spam. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they eventually start checking for the same article submitted in a billion different places; i mean, I'm sure they have the technology to do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author nm5419
      Originally Posted by Andy Button View Post

      I think it's a safe bet that Google will be constantly be bringing in more Panda like updates to its algorithm to protect its listings from spam. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they eventually start checking for the same article submitted in a billion different places; i mean, I'm sure they have the technology to do that.
      They've already started.
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    • Profile picture of the author KingOfContentMarketing
      Originally Posted by Andy Button View Post

      I think it's a safe bet that Google will be constantly be bringing in more Panda like updates to its algorithm to protect its listings from spam. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they eventually start checking for the same article submitted in a billion different places; i mean, I'm sure they have the technology to do that.
      True. Google has had three of four mini-updates to Panda this year in addition to the 50 or so little regular tweaks they make each month throughout the year.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

    Is it true that the best type of back links come from 500 word articles?
    No.

    The value of a backlink attached to an article can be dependent on many different things, but the length of the article isn't directly one of them.

    Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

    I'm looking around at seo article writing sites some claim for $15 they will write a 500 word unique article and submit it too 100s of article sites but it seems to good to be true
    It isn't too good to be true.

    It's often true. It's just not very good, because the sites to which they can submit are non-context-relevant sites with only PR-0 backlinks. Those backlinks aren't really worth having.

    This little thread, and especially the links in post # 2 of it, will answer a lot of your "article questions", I think: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

    Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

    can someone please shortlist the best places to publish your articles
    Yes ... there are quite a few threads (easily identified from their titles) linked to in post #2 of the thread mentioned just above, which discuss that at length and in detail.

    Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

    I've hard buzzle is a good one
    This is totally wrong.

    Buzzle allows no external links at all, not even in a resource-box following an article.

    Forget Buzzle.

    Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

    ive heard ezine now use nofollow
    That's also completely wrong.

    It really does seem that you've been misinformed about quite a lot. Not your fault, obviously - that's quite common, I'm afraid. Hopefully the various threads you can find listed inside the little thread linked to above will put you right. Plenty of reading there - good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author nm5419
    Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

    ive heard ezine now use nofollow
    The nofollow tag at ezinearticles certainly exists on some articles like this one: http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Rem...olt&id=6697333 (look for the "American Made Drill Bits" link) but I don't know why they're not on all articles. Doesn't seem fair, does it?
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by nm5419 View Post

      The nofollow tag at ezinearticles certainly exists on some articles like this one: http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Rem...olt&id=6697333 (look for the "American Made Drill Bits" link) but I don't know why they're not on all articles. Doesn't seem fair, does it?
      That hyperlink is within the article, and EZA allows it because it links to more information: it isn't a self-serving, promotional link to the article writer's content. Actually, at the moment it's retuning a 'page cannot be found' error.

      Links from your author resource box are (unless the situation has changed very recently), do-follow.
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      • Profile picture of the author nm5419
        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        That hyperlink is within the article, and EZA allows it because it links to more information: it isn't a self-serving, promotional link to the article writer's content. Actually, at the moment it's retuning a 'page cannot be found' error.

        Links from your author resource box are (unless the situation has changed very recently), do-follow.
        Any link to a company is a promotional link. The author works for the company, so it's self-serving as well. Nevertheless, that would explain why there are so few nofollows. At first I thought they were random, but then figured that author must have wanted it that way cause even a random display would show some sort of consistency.

        I don't understand why they're nofollowing their share buttons though. Of all things!
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        • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
          Originally Posted by nm5419 View Post

          Any link to a company is a promotional link. The author works for the company, so it's self-serving as well. Nevertheless, that would explain why there are so few nofollows. At first I thought they were random, but then figured that author must have wanted it that way cause even a random display would show some sort of consistency.

          I don't understand why they're nofollowing their share buttons though. Of all things!
          I beg to differ. When it may be of value to my readers, and especially since it enhances an article's perceived value with potential syndicators, I occasionally include a backlink to an authority site.
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          • Profile picture of the author codecreative
            Well thanks a lot for the very informative replies especially Alexia.

            I have been doing a fair amount of research but I need to get up to speed still a newbie in the world of seo.

            I will check the thread out you have recommended. It's seems difficult to try and focus your seo for a site you have made as there seems to smany different avenus to exploit.

            Many years ago around 2001 I had an affiliate site thats the last time I participated in seo of any type and I had a doorway page lol I didn't even know it was a technical term just something I tried I remember making a good income from it.

            Just out of interest what are the chances these days of making niche websites that sell amazon products, like a site called say, hugobossorangelabelwhitepolo dot com com as an example and link your produts to amazon ones that fit the bill, write some useufl articles. Have a php script on your homepage that each day refreshs the content, changes features item and word spins some text.

            Is it possible to earn a good living from amazon affiliateing still?
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

              I will check the thread out you have recommended.
              I would ... I was a little concerned, in replying to your post, that you might imagine that "article marketing" is "a form of SEO". It isn't, per se, and the only people still pretending it is are those selling "spinning" and "auto-submission" "bots" and so on (some of whom are now running out of customers as Google is gradually but consistently making sure that their wares, designed only to "game the system", have no further benefits).

              Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

              It's seems difficult to try and focus your seo for a site you have made as there seems to smany different avenus to exploit.
              The big question is whether you want a business model which is dependent on Google for its primary traffic.

              It's true that some people still do well, that way - but far more do very badly.

              This year, in particular, many Warriors have reluctantly but inevitably appreciated that business models of that kind can be only one algorithm-change away from a potential disaster.

              Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

              what are the chances these days of making niche websites that sell amazon products, like a site called say, hugobossorangelabelwhitepolo dot com
              That one can get domain-confiscation and/or lawsuits from three different companies for breach of trademark, which would be quite an achievement.

              Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

              Is it possible to earn a good living from amazon affiliateing still?
              Definitely. There are many here making their livings from it. Some of them very good livings. And some even by using article marketing, but the people doing well that way are using it as a targeted traffic-attractor in its own right, rather than trying to use it as "a form of SEO".
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  • Profile picture of the author networkersmagnet
    Article Marketing can have quite lot of impact in your business...

    You can accomplish a lot if you really do it right...
    Personally not yet writing much, but sure is the best way for back-linking

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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    I find that 1 article to ezinearticles.com gives me much better positions than 10 articles that have been submitted around the different directories.

    You can pay $5 for a good article onto your ezinearticles.com account and for your price you have mentioned above that can give you three.
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  • Profile picture of the author savvybizbuilder
    Try to be a guest bloggers. In that way, you can generate traffic from the website you are trying to post your article on. Make sure you have the same niche and had good traffic as well as PR.
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