HostGator is going Down Again and Again.. Need some serious help!

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Hello everyone, i am using Hostgator (Baby Plan)
And i have launched one website last week and in just 4,5 days i have got massive amount of traffic.

And because of this my website got Stuck again and again and i am loosing visitors.. and it cames 'Internal server error'

Here is the screenshot. (and all this traffic for is of last 4 days.. i launched my blog on 11 dec and in just 4 days my website is getting stuck again and again because of 'Internal server error' )





WHAT SHOULD I DO ??? I NEED SOME SERIOUS HELP!!
#hostgator #serious
  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    OK,

    I have to ask. Have you called them and ask what the problem is?

    It sounds like, if you are getting that much traffic, then the server (shared hosting on the baby plan) may be getting overloaded. Not sure, but if this is the case, then I think they would have notified you.

    Try calling them, if you haven't already, and see what they say.

    Thanks,

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
    I Contacted them.. and they told me to Install one WORDPRESS Plugin W3-Total-Cache. and i installed, still no progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Thompson
    As John said, if you are sending that much traffic (100 GB in 4 days), then you'll be using far more resources than you can expect to receive on a $7pm shared hosting plan, especially if the site you are sending the traffic to is a dynamic SQL driven site.

    You can try using W3-total-cache but in my experience, it wont make much difference when you are driving traffic to a site on such a scale. The best option would be to upgrade to a mid-range VPS or Dedicated server.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
    HG is shi*.. Get rid of them..FAST..

    WAY back when, before I knew better, I had the same issues with HG. I was actually getting customer emails reporting my site was down. (if any of you are not, you are probably not getting enough traffic)

    When you call the rep, they will make it seem like nothing happened and can't explain the reason.

    Switch your stuff over to liquid web.. TOP notch service, and I do not have downtime.

    I have 2 dedicated servers with them, and they are absolutely fantastic!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohsin Rasool
    Go for VPS server. Time to upgrade from shared hosting to VPS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
    Which VPS Package should i buy on which hosting?

    My Yearly budget for this is 500 dollars.

    PLEASE SUGGEST!
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    • Profile picture of the author Thaddeus
      Commiserations with Hostgator. I agree, probably time to switch to a more personal service hosting company.

      But holy shmoly - what I want to know is what you are doing to get all that traffic in just 5 days??? Which devil did you do the deal with?

      Thad
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      • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
        Originally Posted by Thaddeus View Post

        Commiserations with Hostgator. I agree, probably time to switch to a more personal service hosting company.

        But holy shmoly - what I want to know is what you are doing to get all that traffic in just 5 days??? Which devil did you do the deal with?

        Thad

        What's the Difference between personal service hosting company and hostgator VPS hosting? And how can i have personal service hosting company? what it will cost?
        And the Most of the traffic is from Social websites, Facebook,twitter etc
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        • Profile picture of the author Thaddeus
          I'm with Rochen - they go down a just a fraction more 1&1 used to, but their support is lightning fast, they speak English, they seem to me to have a high technical knowledge, and they invariably fix things very very quickly. All that works for me

          Heheh - very cryptic! When you say "Most of the traffic is from Social websites, Facebook,twitter etc" aghh, we need more details!! I have accounts and pages on all that lot, work pretty hard on them all on occasion, but get nothing like that traffic from them! Have you got some automated system at work here?
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          • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
            Originally Posted by Thaddeus View Post

            I'm with Rochen - they go down a just a fraction more 1&1 used to, but their support is lightning fast, they speak English, they seem to me to have a high technical knowledge, and they invariably fix things very very quickly. All that works for me

            Heheh - very cryptic! When you say "Most of the traffic is from Social websites, Facebook,twitter etc" aghh, we need more details!! I have accounts and pages on all that lot, work pretty hard on them all on occasion, but get nothing like that traffic from them! Have you got some automated system at work here?

            Thank you for your suggestion.

            I Have got some Big Facebook pages and also twitter followers of 1 million.
            My total facebook FANS/LIKES are 3 million +
            From here i am getting the traffic i just post 3 links in a day.
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            • Profile picture of the author joekoffi
              Originally Posted by Rocky07 View Post

              Thank you for your suggestion.

              I Have got some Big Facebook pages and also twitter followers of 1 million.
              My total facebook FANS/LIKES are 3 million +
              From here i am getting the traffic i just post 3 links in a day.
              This is crazy fat !!!!

              How can I have you recommend my site to your followers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rozanne
    Well $500 is a good budget, either you choose highly configured VPS or choose Cloud Hosting Service. In my opinion you should opt cloud, because with this platform it would be easy to upgrade or downgrade resources according to website progress.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      May I ask how you got that traffic? Where from I mean?

      I'm just thinking outloud but if you got 10% of them to sign up to a list you'd have 12,200 people on it or...

      122,000 visitors @ 1% purchasing a $17 product = $20,740.

      Sorry but that is bot traffic or you'd have more than $500 to spend surely and if you knew you were going to be getting over 100,000 visitors in 4 days, why did you go for a baby plan?
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      • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        May I ask how you got that traffic? Where from I mean?

        I'm just thinking outloud but if you got 10% of them to sign up to a list you'd have 12,200 people on it or...

        122,000 visitors @ 1% purchasing a $17 product = $20,740.

        Sorry but that is bot traffic or you'd have more than $500 to spend surely and if you knew you were going to be getting over 100,000 visitors in 4 days, why did you go for a baby plan?

        From my Facebook fan pages/Twitter followers, NOT A SINGLE BOT! All are 100% real human traffic.

        Outloud is a VPS hosting company? and they give commision? sorry i am not fimiliar with it,
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by Rocky07 View Post

          Outloud is a VPS hosting company? and they give commision? sorry i am not fimiliar with it,
          Good for you, I'd want to be monetising them, I'm sure you are though.

          Sorry too, "thinking outloud" is an expression of thought, it's not a hosting company.

          Good luck Rocky, with that sort of traffic you should be retired by February.
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  • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
    I have been with Hostgator for well over 5 years now (since I built my first website) and have never had any problem. If anything came up, they were pretty quick to help me get it situated as soon as possible.

    With that said, looks like too much traffic for shared hosting. I agree with a lot of people here. Definitely need to move to a dedicated server that can handle a load like that (if the traffic is going to continue at a high rate).
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  • Profile picture of the author joekoffi
    I think the problem you have here is the amount of traffic. On hostgator's shared space, you are not allowed to run over 25 processes at any given time. That means you can't have over 25 requests being processed at once. With this amount of traffic, it's very reasonably possible to have over 25 requests/clicks being processed at once. The solution is to upgrade or move elsewhere. Also be care not to jump from frying pan to fire.
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      On and off over the last month or so, all my Hostgator blogs have been abysmally slow. Yesterday, they were timing out, but today they are flying.

      I've always loved Hostgator and recommended them constantly, but if this spotty on-and-off access time continues, I shall have little option but to move elsewhere.

      Maybe all our recommendations are proving to be our own downfall - we've recommended them to so many people, they are becoming overloaded..
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      • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        On and off over the last month or so, all my Hostgator blogs have been abysmally slow. Yesterday, they were timing out, but today they are flying.

        I've always loved Hostgator and recommended them constantly, but if this spotty on-and-off access time continues, I shall have little option but to move elsewhere.

        Maybe all our recommendations are proving to be our own downfall - we've recommended them to so many people, they are becoming overloaded..
        Are all your sites in the same account (i.e. potentially on the same single server), Annie?

        I've had no noticeable issues with any of my sites, myself, and I'm sure there'd have been an announcement if there was an internal network issue affecting many customers, so I can only imagine there must either be a routing/latency problem between your ISP and their datacentre (which could be discovered by perhaps running a traceroute - "tracert xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" in Command Prompt in Windows, where x's are the IP address of the server your account is on - and looking for abnormally high response rates or timeouts (e.g. * * * *'s)) or an unfortunate problem with a specific server.

        If it persists, I'd consider first asking them to move your account to another server. That'd be a task for them, anyway, and would probably be a much lighter job on your part than moving hosts altogether. Hope things get sorted for you, anyway.
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        • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
          You've made some good suggestions - thanks

          Yes, everything is in the one account. Today is a good day and everything is humming along at the moment so I'll just hold fire and wait to see if another slow day kicks in. If it does, I'll certainly follow your advice.

          Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

          Are all your sites in the same account (i.e. potentially on the same single server), Annie?

          I've had no noticeable issues with any of my sites, myself, and I'm sure there'd have been an announcement if there was an internal network issue affecting many customers, so I can only imagine there must either be a routing/latency problem between your ISP and their datacentre (which could be discovered by perhaps running a traceroute - "tracert xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" in Command Prompt in Windows, where x's are the IP address of the server your account is on - and looking for abnormally high response rates or timeouts (e.g. * * * *'s)) or an unfortunate problem with a specific server.

          If it persists, I'd consider first asking them to move your account to another server. That'd be a task for them, anyway, and would probably be a much lighter job on your part than moving hosts altogether. Hope things get sorted for you, anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    The problem could pertain to the volume of traffic you're receiving and the inadequacy of your current hosting package/platform to cope with it, or it could be due to an unruly plugin/script of sorts. Or a combination of both.

    We have no access to HostGator's server. Neither do we have access to your error logs or your hosting account. For that reason, we can't possibly tell you what is ultimately causing the problem.

    HostGator have made a recommendation, which you can either choose to act upon or to ignore.

    Good luck if you decide to move hosts, but I'd personally want to make sure I'd gotten to the bottom of the problem before enduring all the hassle of transferring elsewhere only for the same issue to occur.
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  • Profile picture of the author MihaiBarbulescu
    I believe you should consider a VPS or a dedicated server having in mind this volume of visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author DustinG
    -First, what did you do to get that much traffic?

    I use Host Gator and have been happy with them so far. They have various hosting options. The $7/mo shared plan isn't really designed to handle a ton of traffic. It's more of a starter, and you can then upgrade as you get more traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author RankSale
    If your traffic keeps growing, better to upgrade to VPS or dedicated server.
    Code or script improvement is limited.
    I use hostgator before. Not very impressived with their shared hosting.
    We use "managed" VPS or dedicated server for our high traffic sites now.
    Our experience shows uptime and space for growing are VERY important for website.
    Unless you think your site is small and will be forever small.
    And don't care the traffic lost by down time.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamstraus
    Hmm...if you're growing that fast then first off let's all congratulate you. Because the truth is it really is hard to get that much traffic so fast.

    Are these downloads and media files? If it's streaming related, downloads (and it's legal stuff to download) then look into Vimeo, Youtube (video) or Amazon S3 (video or any type of large file) for strictly hosting your files.

    You can then just let your blog run at hostgator and you'll be fine.

    If it's really script intensive and just general web surfing then you need to get W3 Super Cache working AND you need to upgrade to a VPS (virtual prviate server).

    I know Hostgator can suck but they actually do have very reasonably priced VPS offerings.

    I would look into "why" you are crashing before even trying to figure out how to fix it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Shipp
    All that traffic on the cheapest hosting plan and you don't know what's wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
    Thanks a lot Everyone for your suggestions.

    i am going with Hostgator's VPS hosting of 40 dollars/month. ( LEVEL 3 )

    Here is the Link : https://signup.hostgator.com/


    Screenshot of the package :

    So is it FINE for my this amount of traffic ?

    PLEASE SUGGEST.
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    • Profile picture of the author HostMafia
      Originally Posted by Rocky07 View Post

      Thanks a lot Everyone for your suggestions.

      i am going with Hostgator's VPS hosting of 40 dollars/month. ( LEVEL 3 )

      Here is the Link : https://signup.hostgator.com/
      So is it FINE for my this amount of traffic ?

      PLEASE SUGGEST.
      You will run out of bandwidth in no time. By looking at first page, i got that u already reached 100gb bandwidth.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
        Originally Posted by HostMafia View Post

        You will run out of bandwidth in no time. By looking at first page, i got that u already reached 100gb bandwidth.

        I checked few minutes before that 97 Gb is now 129 GB!
        So i must go with Level 4?
        Problem is i have limited budget at the moment.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian Alaway
      Originally Posted by Rocky07 View Post

      Thanks a lot Everyone for your suggestions.

      i am going with Hostgator's VPS hosting of 40 dollars/month. ( LEVEL 3 )

      Here is the Link : https://signup.hostgator.com/


      Screenshot of the package :

      So is it FINE for my this amount of traffic ?

      PLEASE SUGGEST.
      Not a particularly great deal when compared to VPS Solutions | ServInt | www.servint.net
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    its not just the number of actual visits that matters. what are these people doing on your site? are they downloading a big file, watching movies from your server, viewing static web pages, or are you using a heavy database driven site that will eat up server resources.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
      Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      its not just the number of actual visits that matters. what are these people doing on your site? are they downloading a big file, watching movies from your server, viewing static web pages, or are you using a heavy database driven site that will eat up server resources.
      It's a Funny Blog.. just pictures are there.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Keith
        Originally Posted by Rocky07 View Post

        It's a Funny Blog.. just pictures are there.
        so its a database driven site with heavy use of pictures. that is probably going to eat up server resources more than many sites would.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
          Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

          so its a database driven site with heavy use of pictures. that is probably going to eat up server resources more than many sites would.

          What do you think, Hostgator VPS Level 3 will be fine for this??
          I need to take some action As soon as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author DustinG
    You got 3 million likes and 1 million Twitter followers in just a few days?

    What is your site?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
      Originally Posted by DustinG View Post

      You got 3 million likes and 1 million Twitter followers in just a few days?

      What is your site?
      Actually, i have buyed some pages and followers.. one is my page i have got 1.7 million on that ( i made that page in 2009) other i have buyed. these are random pages and because of that pages i have already got 100k fans on my this blog's official page.
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  • Profile picture of the author joekoffi
    I'm interested in visiting your site
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  • Profile picture of the author HostMafia
    than probably cloud would be better for you,as you can pay for what u use. Buy a reliable cloud server with sufficient RAM and cpu for the start. After some time u will get the general idea of how much cpu n ram u need.
    Than you can use minimum cpu n ram,and spend most on bandwidth.


    Also use cloudfare,content delivery network with your hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author canada94
    Dude, if your getting that amount of traffic you need to create a WSO and get it on here, thats an insane amout of traffic in 5 days, also whats your web addy so we can check it out.

    Respect to ya

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  • Profile picture of the author Curt7
    You had better figure out how to monetize all of that traffic, so that your hosting budget won't be so limited. A $500 annual hosting budget with all of that traffic is a bit nuts.
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  • Profile picture of the author HostMafia
    Adsense,cpa/cpl,donation button. There are so many methods for that much traffic which will easily cover all the server cost with some heavy amount of pure profit.

    You should consider it.
    Please share your link with us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
    Okay guys, now i have to do the Final Decision :


    VPS Solutions | ServInt | www.servint.net or VPS Hosting | Linux VPS Servers with cPanel from HostGator


    Which VPS hosting is better???

    PLEASE SUGGEST, i need to buy within 24 hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Olivia33
    Well i guess you should look at Liquidweb ..They own many datacenters and their hosting is top notch !
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I suspect that if you're getting that amount of traffic in that amount of time, that you are sending a huge amount of junk traffic to the site.

    If so, that's certainly no fault of Hostgator. Look at your AWStats and see where that traffic is coming from. Did you do a big spam blast of links or join some traffic exchanges?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I suspect that if you're getting that amount of traffic in that amount of time, that you are sending a huge amount of junk traffic to the site.

      If so, that's certainly no fault of Hostgator. Look at your AWStats and see where that traffic is coming from. Did you do a big spam blast of links or join some traffic exchanges?

      I Already told that Traffic is coming from facebook and twitter... total i have 3 million likes on facebook and 1 million twitter follows. all traffic is real. 100% real. not even a single percent junk traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Rocky07 View Post

        I Already told that Traffic is coming from facebook and twitter... total i have 3 million likes on facebook and 1 million twitter follows. all traffic is real. 100% real. not even a single percent junk traffic.
        Proof is in the pudding. Real targeted traffic converts. You'd be making a considerable amount of money on real traffic. If you want to pay for a dedicated server for junk traffic, your option.

        3M Facebook likes and 1M Twitter followers in a few days are highly suspect. Anyone can get/buy junk Facebook likes and Twitter followers.
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        • Profile picture of the author HN
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          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Proof is in the pudding. Real targeted traffic converts. You'd be making a considerable amount of money on real traffic. If you want to pay for a dedicated server for junk traffic, your option.

          3M Facebook likes and 1M Twitter followers in a few days are highly suspect. Anyone can get/buy junk Facebook likes and Twitter followers.
          Why do you think he got 3M FB and 1M Twitter followers in 4 days. He put up his website 4 days ago. You don't need hosting account for FB and Titter obviously. He also said he created FB page in 2009. Can't we read before posting?
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      • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
        Originally Posted by canada94 View Post

        Dude, if your getting that amount of traffic you need to create a WSO and get it on here, thats an insane amout of traffic in 5 days, also whats your web addy so we can check it out.

        Respect to ya

        Kevin Long
        I'm with Kevin here! Create a WSO and I'll buy it in a heartbeat! And I bet a lot of people will as well. That should help you pay for the hosting (and the autoresponder etc.).

        About Hostgator - I've been with them for several years and I still love them even though their baby plan was a LITTLE deceiving. Unlimited Domains? Not quite. Ditto for Unlimited Bandwidth.

        Apparently, they don't usually run into trouble with that kind of advertising, but when I asked them, they said, WELL, we didn't think you would put 280 domains on your account! (forgot the actual number).

        Awww shucks.

        So now I added a reseller account, which can be upgraded as needed, and a couple of very patient and friendly HG guys walked me through how to get it all set up.

        Still happy with HG!

        Good luck with your site and let me know when you're looking for reviewers for your WSO ;-)

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    Why aren't you monetizing your website to have a budget that is way over $500 for hosting? What's the matter?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    Sorry for your troubles, but I'm quite impressed with your traffic stats! Would you share some of your techniques and methods?
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  • Profile picture of the author lovefadge
    This happens, contact htem on hostgator chat and they'll fix it straight away (if there is a genuine problem) ... its happened to me a few times tho, it's simple because I've used too many processes, u need to monitor things like email accounts and stuff like that, I noticed that recently when I opened up thunderbird (my emails) it opened up about 5 email accounts attached to my hosting and made my processes go over the limit so my website went down. Seems like a classic case of too many processes, if u notice it go down log into your hosting and look at your processes.

    I'd upgrade though to some bigger hosting, definitely a VPS or dedicated server when your pushing that amount of traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
    THANKS EVERYONE for your Suggestions.

    After some posts and searching on the forum, I have buyed Dedicated servers on Liquidweb.com

    Thanks again. Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
    hello everyone,
    i searched the forum and get to know the liquid web vps will be best for this.
    2 days back i migrated to Smart vps server on Liquid web of 2000Gb bandwith,
    and the situation is event worst then before.
    On hostgator shared hosting i was easily having 30k visitors daily.but the problem was processors and i switched here on liquid web vps hosting. now only just 400 users come onine and the website got closed. and they are saying we are trying to resolve it,but nothing working out.

    what should i do guys? please suggest, my website is down from last few hours.


    NOW My BUDGET is 2000$/ Month, SHOULD I GO WITH HOSTGATOR DEDICATED SERVER??
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    a vps is really really just a shared server.

    you need a dedicated server if you are going to get that sort of traffic consistently. hostgator is not the cheapest for dedicated servers, but as you have just recently figured out, it not always best to choose only by cost and the bandwidth numbers promised on the sales page.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      a vps is really really just a shared server.

      you need a dedicated server if you are going to get that sort of traffic consistently. hostgator is not the cheapest for dedicated servers, but as you have just recently figured out, it not always best to choose only by cost and the bandwidth numbers promised on the sales page.
      That completely depends on the type of vps you get. For example, at HostGator the vps containers would very rarely effect each other even if they're on the same node - because they are contained. Unless there was a massive DDOS attack against the node, it would be extremely rare for one vps to effect another - that's what makes it completely different from shared hosting.

      @Rocky You said "the problem was processors" - I highly doubt that is the issues. Most likely what you mean is that you were running too many processes and violating their TOS so the website was showing a 500 error. That either would mean you're getting a ton of traffic or the website is just poorly coded with useless plugins - or both. You have to remember that you're getting some good traffic to the website and paying very little for it to run, shared hosting really isn't support be used in that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sir Lethal
    I suggest using another webhost. Hostgator has been getting real iffy lately due to multiple DDOS attacks. Jixhost is a good webhost, or even try out godaddy.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by Sir Lethal View Post

      I suggest using another webhost. Hostgator has been getting real iffy lately due to multiple DDOS attacks. Jixhost is a good webhost, or even try out godaddy.
      How has HostGator been really iffy lately because of DDOS attacks? That would be implying that every one of their thousands of servers is being attacked. I am sure that certain servers are attacked frequently, especially ones with controversial websites on them. But I have found them generally good at mitigating the attacks.

      And before you even consider using a company like JixHost, take a look at their reviews: https://www.google.com/search?q=+sit...m+jixhost+down

      I wouldn't suggest GoDaddy for hosting, but I do always register domains through them.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    with any vps. you are sharing a computer. the other people who are also using that computer will affect your site. there is no way to avoid that.

    its a "virtual private server" which means it is not a private server, but one that is separated by software applications.

    there is no way to "contain" the usage of one vps user on the same machine so that it will never affect other vps users. the only way to do that is to shut down any vps users who is affecting the performance of the single machine.

    the real purpose of a vps is to allow people who dont really need that much hosting horsepower the flexibility of a dedicated server when it comes to server setup. a vps is not really an upgrade as far as hosting horsepower goes.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      with any vps. you are sharing a computer. the other people who are also using that computer will affect your site. there is no way to avoid that.

      its a "virtual private server" which means it is not a private server, but one that is separated by software applications.

      there is no way to "contain" the usage of one vps user on the same machine so that it will never affect other vps users. the only way to do that is to shut down any vps users who is affecting the performance of the single machine.

      the real purpose of a vps is to allow people who dont really need that much hosting horsepower the flexibility of a dedicated server when it comes to server setup. a vps is not really an upgrade as far as hosting horsepower goes.
      Oh really? So all of these major companies are incorrect about how a vps works?

      What is VPS Hosting?
      The easiest way to visualize how VPS work is to use the apartment analogy. Each virtual server, or "container", on the machine is like an apartment suite. You can install any software you like or restart your own container without affecting the other containers on the machine, much like how you can renovate your own suite without affecting the others.
      Compare Shared Hosting to VPS Hosting
      Virtual private servers are allotted disk space and memory independent of other allocations on the hardware node; while the potential for individual accounts to affect hardware node performance still exists, hard limits set for each virtual environment and improved monitoring capabilities minimize the opportunities for a single user's activities to impact others.
      VPS vs Shared Hosting | Sherweb blog
      Virtual Private Server technology (aka VPS) is essentially multiple isolated server environments on a single physical server. It uses its own disk space, RAM, CPU, IP addresses. A VPS account gives root access to the system, allowing for modifications of server configuration files and installation of applications.
      Shared Hosting vs. VPS
      Within a VPS, each web hosting account is assigned their own operating system so users can individually configure one account without disrupting the others. Over time, a VPS can significantly reduce costs of ownership.
      I think that the point you're missing is that a container has its own resource like CPU and RAM allocated to it. Yes, if the entire node went down, then all vps accounts on it are effected. However, just another user on the node would very rarely disrupt your vps if the containers are setup correctly.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Keith
        Originally Posted by Chase Watts View Post

        Oh really? So all of these major companies are incorrect about how a vps works?

        What is VPS Hosting?


        Compare Shared Hosting to VPS Hosting


        VPS vs Shared Hosting | Sherweb blog
        [URL="http://en.sherweb.ca/vps"]

        Shared Hosting vs. VPS


        I think that the point you're missing is that a container has its own resource like CPU and RAM allocated to it. Yes, if the entire node went down, then all vps accounts on it are effected. However, just another user on the node would very rarely disrupt your vps if the containers are setup correctly.
        chase, i have worked in and around the hosting industry for about 15 years. all of what you just cut and pasted is marketing stuff. just like most of the hosting companies promise "unlimited bandwidth" i dont suppose you actually believe that?

        there is NO WAY to compartmentalize a single computer which is sharing a processor and ram so that the other compartments never or even rarely have affects on the others.

        in fact, hostgators vps system allows it be burstable. which means that if one compartment temporarily uses a lot of resources, the software will pull currently un-used resources from the other compartments on the machine. ie...affecting the other compartments.

        From the hostgator site.
        http://support.hostgator.com/article...etting-started

        What can I do on a VPS?

        VPS is best for installing custom software, creating custom configurations, sending emails without the shared server limitations, and hosting live streaming media. (This is not a solution to overly resource-intensive accounts or heavy traffic.)
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        • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
          [QUOTE=David Keith;5261142]in fact, hostgators vps system allows it be burstable. which means that if one compartment temporarily uses a lot of resources, the software will pull currently un-used resources from the other compartments on the machine. ie...affecting the other compartments./QUOTE]

          Do you have a vps at HostGator where you can provide proof of that? I not only have personal friends who work at HostGator but also have had a vps there since they released them and have never heard that before. Do you have an account with them where you can show proof to backup the fact that your resources are being used by other people on the same node?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
    Nice conversation. thank u for ur suggestion guys.

    ONE QUESTION : Is it ok for me to go with Hostgator Dedicated servers? i trust them i can pay their high fee.
    Please suggest.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by Rocky07 View Post

      Nice conversation. thank u for ur suggestion guys.

      ONE QUESTION : Is it ok for me to go with Hostgator Dedicated servers? i trust them i can pay their high fee.
      Please suggest.
      I would suggest their dedicated servers based on the support that they provide. Yes, they are a bit more expensive than other companies but at least you know that you will get the support you want. I would prefer to waste money paying extra than end up losing a ton more money because the server is down
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
    Right now I would go with a dedicated server in your position - a good VPS isn't even enough to handle all your traffic.

    I would suggest getting the standard dedicated server package. All your website needs at the moment is the basic package, however, your website will probably grow and you'll need a larger server to handle all your traffic, so instead of creating downtime and other problems arise, I would suggest you simply purchase the standard dedicated server package. It will also benefit you if you'll get an excessive amount of traffic at one point in time and will maintain your servers without them crashing.

    Another solution is getting 2 basic dedicated servers if you have the budget. If one server is down, it will always be able to redirect the traffic to the other server for a timely matter while you get the other server back on again. This was it acts as a backup.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
      Originally Posted by Ben Gordon View Post

      Right now I would go with a dedicated server in your position - a good VPS isn't even enough to handle all your traffic.

      I would suggest getting the standard dedicated server package. All your website needs at the moment is the basic package, however, your website will probably grow and you'll need a larger server to handle all your traffic, so instead of creating downtime and other problems arise, I would suggest you simply purchase the standard dedicated server package. It will also benefit you if you'll get an excessive amount of traffic at one point in time and will maintain your servers without them crashing.

      Another solution is getting 2 basic dedicated servers if you have the budget. If one server is down, it will always be able to redirect the traffic to the other server for a timely matter while you get the other server back on again. This was it acts as a backup.
      Thanks a lot for ur suggestion,

      Right now, i am in position of having Basic dedicated servr of 174/month. and after that i can upgrade if things will go goood. whats your thougts on it?

      regards
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    rocky, if you want one of the most hands off solutions, a dedicated server from HG is about as good as it gets for people like you.

    most of the "cheap" servers sold on the internet are lacking many features that make them "set and forget". like 1 and 1 is a big company with much better prices, but those prices are for un-managed servers which brings up all sorts of trouble for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
    I'd like to also give some further insight on what I'm doing. Currently I'm getting over 50K unique visitors per day on one of my websites. Here's how I maintain the traffic.

    I bought two servers from hostgator, the pro package and basic package. All the traffic goes towards my pro dedicated server. I reboot my server once in three days just to make sure everything is running smooth and it doesn't overload. When I reboot my server, for those two hours I forward all my traffic to my basic server which is able to handle all of it (usually those two hours are when I get the least amount of traffic). Another scenario for using this is when I get really large numbers of traffic. If my pro dedicated server crashes for some reason, I forward all my traffic to my basic dedicated server which is able to handle it for about a day while I reboot the other server and maintain it.

    I hope all this information I supplied to you help!
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    • Profile picture of the author Rocky07
      Originally Posted by Ben Gordon View Post

      I'd like to also give some further insight on what I'm doing. Currently I'm getting over 50K unique visitors per day on one of my websites. Here's how I maintain the traffic.

      I bought two servers from hostgator, the pro package and basic package. All the traffic goes towards my pro dedicated server. I reboot my server once in three days just to make sure everything is running smooth and it doesn't overload. When I reboot my server, for those two hours I forward all my traffic to my basic server which is able to handle all of it (usually those two hours are when I get the least amount of traffic). Another scenario for using this is when I get really large numbers of traffic. If my pro dedicated server crashes for some reason, I forward all my traffic to my basic dedicated server which is able to handle it for about a day while I reboot the other server and maintain it.

      I hope all this information I supplied to you help!


      Thank you for your valuable post.

      i would ask you a same question as i aksed before this post.


      Right now, i am in position of having Basic dedicated servr of 174/month. and after that i can upgrade if things will go goood. whats your thougts on it?
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  • Profile picture of the author gatorbrent
    Hello,


    I'm the owner of hostgator and just wanted to make myself available to anyone who is having issues with us. I can be reached directly at brent@ hostgatordotcom

    There's no set limit of how many page views is to much for a shared environment. The reason for this is that all sites are built differently and use different amounts of resources. If you're site is getting 300,000 page views a day and is database driven chances are it's going to be to large for a $10 a month hosting plan. With that amount of traffic / usage you're going to need either a dedicated and or a higher end vps. There's a good chance an entry level vps plan isn't going to cut it anywhere you signup.

    Liquidweb is a great company but it's hardly fair for those here to compare are $10 shared hosting to one of their higher end vps and or dedicated solutions.
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