Selling your eBook on Clickbank

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Hi there,

I have written an eBook on poker advice and was curious how I go about having my eBook promoted on Clickbank? I am going to sell it on my Blog as well, but I figured CB would be a pretty good place for additional sales.

Any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Jon
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Vraibel
    Make sure that you set commissions to close to 100%, especially if it is under $15 or so.

    I'm involved in the gambling niche and there are so many products out there that it will be tough to get affiliates to promote a product for $5/sale.
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    • Profile picture of the author JonsPokerStrategy
      If I set it close to 100%, how would I make any money?
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      • Profile picture of the author Exire
        Originally Posted by JonsPokerStrategy View Post

        If I set it close to 100%, how would I make any money?
        Despite what most people think, you don't really make your money on the up front sale. The real money is made on the back end sales after the customer makes that first purchase.

        For example, suppose you buy a new car. The dealer makes a few thousand dollars on it (the rest goes to the manufacturer, etc). What happens then? They offer you back end sales such as a warranty, a year's worth of oil changes/inspections, winterization, etc. for additional costs. They will, in the long run, make more from your new car purchase from the additional services that they offer you than from the actual purchase of the car itself.

        In your case, suppose you offer your ebook for $15 and give 100% commission to your affiliates. Yes, I know, you can only give 75% commission at Clickbank but bear with me for the example.

        Say your affiliates manage to sell 1,000 copies of your ebook. You haven't seen a cent of that $15,000 because you have a 100% commission. However, you now have 1,000 people on your email list (you are planning to collect buyer emails, right?). They've spent $15 with you, you provided them with good information, they like you, you contact them regularly through email to offer them more advice, tips, etc. Then, you offer them the "advanced" course for, say, $49.95. Suppose you get 10% of those 1,000 buyers to take you up on this offer. You've now made $4,995 plus you can keep selling them more courses, ebooks, affiliate products, coaching/training (this is where the big bucks are, by the way), and so on for years to come.

        If you do this, be sure to segment your autoresponder list. For example, when a customer buys your initial $15 ebook, they're put on one email list. This email list is where you will promote your $49.95 ebook occasionally. Those that buy the $49.95 ebook will be removed from the $15 ebook list and put on one where you promote a $97 product, for example. You keep funneling the customers into ever higher priced products this way so that eventually you'll have a list of people who have purchased everything that you've put out--which may amount to several thousand dollars per customer--and they not only trust you but love you. These are the people you start offering coaching/training to for $495/mo. or more (depending on what you think they'll pay).

        Anyway, my point is that you don't have to worry about not making money on the first ebook. It's future ebooks, videos, membership sites, courses, coaching/training, etc. where you make the real money. Your affiliates make a lousy $15/sale and you get to benefit from being able to sell over and over again to the customers they bring in for you.

        Originally Posted by JonsPokerStrategy View Post

        So what really convinces a Clickbank affiliate to want to promote your products? A dynamic sales page? A good commission structure? A product that seems like it might have some value? All are equally important?
        It depends on the affiliate. Some only see dollar signs and the better it converts and the higher the commission the harder they'll promote it. Others refuse to promote anything that isn't a quality product that actually helps those who buy it, no matter how much the affiliate themselves actually earns from it.

        Make sure you provide some affiliate tools such as prewritten articles and emails, PPC keywords, banners, etc. for the less experienced affiliates. The full time affiliates will either make their own or will have been around long enough to write their own content that matches their own style and audience but the new affiliates will need the help.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke View Post

        This is not possible with Clickbank. They cap the commission at 75% for affiliates as a maximum.
        Not quite so ... 100% commissions can effectively be paid there now, and often are (although they don't exactly advertise it in those words) just by using the referral gadget and allowing each affiliate to be their own "referrer", for example by paying them 75% as an affiliate and 100% of the remaining 25% as a referrer).

        Originally Posted by biz_online View Post

        I read tons of posts here with people asking for help and not understanding that it's all about list building.... not Facebook ads, Not PPC, Not CPV/PPV... these are all simply tools to build your list and develop relationships with affiliates and customers!
        This. Exactly.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5210243
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    • Profile picture of the author biz_online
      "Make sure that you set commissions to close to 100%, especially if it is under $15 or so. :confused:

      I'm involved in the gambling niche and there are so many products out there that it will be tough to get affiliates to promote a product for $5/sale.":rolleyes:

      Great advice! There so many online marketers who don't understand that you have to "Attract Affiliates" before you can gain any steam online. Newbies think that you just throw up a product on Clickbank and you automatically get sales and affiliates. This is so far from the truth. You have to Build Your List FIRST!!!

      I read tons of posts here with people asking for help and not understanding that it's all about list building.... not Facebook ads, Not PPC, Not CPV/PPV... these are all simply tools to build your list and develop relationships with affiliates and customers!

      --Great Points---
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      • Profile picture of the author biz_online
        Originally Posted by biz_online View Post

        "Make sure that you set commissions to close to 100%, especially if it is under $15 or so. :confused:

        I'm involved in the gambling niche and there are so many products out there that it will be tough to get affiliates to promote a product for $5/sale.":rolleyes:

        Great advice! There so many online marketers who don't understand that you have to "Attract Affiliates" before you can gain any steam online. Newbies think that you just throw up a product on Clickbank and you automatically get sales and affiliates. This is so far from the truth. You have to Build Your List FIRST!!!

        I read tons of posts here with people asking for help and not understanding that it's all about list building.... not Facebook ads, Not PPC, Not CPV/PPV... these are all simply tools to build your list and develop relationships with affiliates and customers!

        --Great Points---
        Thanks Alex! Sometimes with all the products, tips, tricks and strategies, it's hard to break thru the noise to see how simple this business is... It's about building trusted relationships!
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        • Profile picture of the author Ian Kane
          Originally Posted by biz_online View Post

          Thanks Alex! Sometimes with all the products, tips, tricks and strategies, it's hard to break thru the noise to see how simple this business is... It's about building trusted relationships!
          Thanks guys! This thread is really informative...just need to figure out how to build lists now. Do I focus on my book's niche and cross markets and go from there?

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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    a) You make the remaining percentage for doing NOT A LOT.
    b) The thing to note about Clickbank is that you don't just throw your product on, and you have thousands of people racing to promote it. You, yourself, also need to work on promoting it. It is a vicious circle when it comes to Clickbank. Affiliates only promote products that sell well, but you need to sell before that happens and so on.
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    • Profile picture of the author JonsPokerStrategy
      Originally Posted by manicmethods View Post

      a) You make the remaining percentage for doing NOT A LOT.
      b) The thing to note about Clickbank is that you don't just throw your product on, and you have thousands of people racing to promote it. You, yourself, also need to work on promoting it. It is a vicious circle when it comes to Clickbank. Affiliates only promote products that sell well, but you need to sell before that happens and so on.

      Thanks for the advice!

      So what really convinces a Clickbank affiliate to want to promote your products? A dynamic sales page? A good commission structure? A product that seems like it might have some value? All are equally important?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Vraibel
    It doesn't have to be but I usually think of an ebook as a front end product. When affiliates promote it you'll capture the customers email addresses and instead of getting paid once and forgetting about them you'll have a lifetime to sell them more products.

    If you don't have a solid IM foundation you'll have a hard time selling an ebook anyways, why not let other people sell it for you and you reap the benefits on the back end?
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  • Profile picture of the author InfoStudio
    no mater how big commission you gave, if is lots of competition in that niche you'll need to recruit affiliate by your own!
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Percentage is irrelevant.

      People take notice of the figure they are going to make as a result of a sale and the likelyhood of making that sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author zamzung
    I will agree with webcore... percentage is not important... it's important to have good product that converts so big affiliates want to promote it... it's actually a numbers game... it's also shouldn't be important to attract army of affiliates who doesn't make much sales, it's important to get "big" players... 5% of my affiliates is responsible for 95% of my sales...
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by JonsPokerStrategy View Post

    I am going to sell it on my Blog as well, but I figured CB would be a pretty good place for additional sales.
    Jon,

    Respectfully, you've slightly misunderstood how ClickBank works.

    Zamzung's comment in the post just above is very helpful: something like 5% or so of the affiliates produce something like 95% of the sales. The other 95%-ish of affiliates produce almost nothing and aren't really worth your while, as a vendor. So, you need to focus your attention on "how to attract those 5%/10% of the potential affiliates". Those are the serious, professional ones, most of whom (like me) do this as a full-time business.

    There are quite a few things that very many of us have in common. (Not a great surprise, there, I think, because we're "the ones who have worked out how to make it work and make our livings" so clearly we'll have come to several of the same conclusions?) One of those things is that we won't be promoting any products which the vendor also sells separately on his own blog/site.

    There are countless threads here explaining why. Here's just one of them, from earlier today: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...k-product.html

    So your plan, realistically, doesn't work. At least, it doesn't work profitably. Because, doing what you suggest, you can attract only the majority of the affiliates who hardly sell anything, at the expense of losing the minority who produce nearly all the sales.

    Originally Posted by JonsPokerStrategy View Post

    Any help would be much appreciated!
    Getting advice, as a vendor, about "what affiliates want" (i.e. to be willing to choose your product to promote out of the 15,000 available) is notoriously difficult.

    You can see why, perhaps?

    There are thousands of affiliates here, many of whom are ready and willing to give their opinions. 90%/95% of them (or some high proportion, anyway) are people who, between them, collectively produce very few sales indeed. You need to learn to recognize and rely on the opinions of the others. But that's not easy to do, in a forum, because they're a very much smaller group and their voices are easily drowned out/voted down - some, knowing the lie of the land, are less mouthy than I am and may not even bother to post.

    As with so much else in internet marketing, in general, don't expect "the majority"/"the consensus" to be altogether well-informed and reliable.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelgee123
    I've been curious about the same questions regarding Clickbank and this thread cleared it up. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Originally Posted by JonsPokerStrategy View Post

    Thanks for the advice!

    So what really convinces a Clickbank affiliate to want to promote your products? A dynamic sales page? A good commission structure? A product that seems like it might have some value? All are equally important?
    Having a relationship with your affiliates.

    Lets face it, if there's two people who want you to promote their stuff. Ones a complete stranger who've just emailed you out of the blue and the other is your buddy who've promoted your stuff in the past... Who would you promote?

    James Scholes
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