Are Entrepreneurs Born or Created

by ColinT
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Are Entrepreneurs Born or Created, We all know someone who manages to make money without any apparent real effort or so it seems. Others have to learn the never ending skills and work so hard just to make a few dollars. Are some of us just born moneymakers?
#born #ceated #entrepreneurs
  • Profile picture of the author bretski
    Ceated? Is that an Irish or Welsh thing?

    I think I know what you meant, though. I personally think that it takes a special kind of person to be an entrepreneur. I think it takes a different kind of spirit... kind of restless spirt that is not willing to be a round peg in a round hole or compromise their life or settle for "normal". It really doesn't have anything to do with the money, I think. The money is just a measuring stick that we use to mark progress... at least in my eyes....
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    • Profile picture of the author ColinT
      Originally Posted by bretski View Post

      Ceated? Is that an Irish or Welsh thing?

      I think I know what you meant, though. I personally think that it takes a special kind of person to be an entrepreneur. I think it takes a different kind of spirit... kind of restless spirt that is not willing to be a round peg in a round hole or compromise their life or settle for "normal". It really doesn't have anything to do with the money, I think. The money is just a measuring stick that we use to mark progress... at least in my eyes....
      Sorry bretski, at this time of night here in the UK my brain isn`t working so well. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by bretski View Post

      a round peg in a round hole
      "You're 21 Joe, get your mind out of the gutter."

      I agree with what Bretski says though. It takes a special kind of person to be able to do something special.
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  • Profile picture of the author aeri
    I think while some people can naturally do entrepreneur work more easily than another person, I think everyone is capable of being an entrepreneur in some way Just about the amount of effort and ability to understand/comprehend/adapt to that mindset is what sets people apart for the most part.

    Some people just may find it in different ways than others, and different fields, too.
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    • Profile picture of the author yesacpow
      I think it is two fold. Some are born and some are created.

      The ones born may have influence by parents or close relatives who were already entrepreneurs. The ones created are the ones that decide they wanted something good for themselves. Most times the ones who are created have to go through a lot of struggles initially before they succeed while the ones born may have things a little easier. That's my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author vivi62
    created definately the only people that are born with gifts are psychics, geniuses to a certain extent and singers everything else is learnt behaviour.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Titan
    Originally Posted by ColinT View Post

    Are Entrepreneurs Born or Created, We all know someone who manages to make money without any apparent real effort or so it seems. Others have to learn the never ending skills and work so hard just to make a few dollars. Are some of us just born moneymakers?
    People are not born with the skills or mindset required to become entrepreneurs.

    It is the environment you live in. The things you learn in your life time. The people you are around. The type of interests you build at a young age.

    Some people do it much better than others because they are more suited for the type of work according to their past experience.

    Originally Posted by yesacpow View Post

    I think it is two fold. Some are born and some are created.

    The ones born may have influence by parents or close relatives who were already entrepreneurs.
    Well, if someone is born and influenced by parents or close relatives who were already entrepreneurs, that means they are "created" from their environment. It does not mean they have an "entrepreneurial" gene that allows someone born to be successful :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author CoolCaesar
    It's all about your ability to make "connections"
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    My mother made me an entrepreneur by labeling us as poor, as if there were no way out. It drove me insane and I knew that when I grew up, I would never have to say those things to my kids.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      I think it's in our DNA.

      Take two people born on the same street, in exactly the same circumstances.

      Those two people will grow up to be chimney sweepers.

      Person 1 will happily work for someone else and bring in a livable wage.

      Person 2 will start his own company and make 4x more.

      I think it's about will, drive and determination. Sure, we can want something, but it takes more than that.

      Many people from all walks of society are entrepreneurs. It is a mindset that can't be created easily, though some may pass through.

      NOW if you asked me in entrepreneurism is natural or learned, I'd say the successful ones either "get it first time", or die trying.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eddie Titan
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        Those two people will grow up to be chimney sweepers.

        Person 1 will happily work for someone else and bring in a livable wage.

        Person 2 will start his own company and make 4x more.

        I think it's about will, drive and determination. Sure, we can want something, but it takes more than that.
        So you think there is something in your DNA that makes someone start his own company?

        Two people on the same street that grow up to become Chimney sweepers will still differ because they will have different experiences in other parts of their lives as they interact with society.

        That is a very broad example. Small incidents, even micro incidents, can change the way people think and perceive things.
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        • Profile picture of the author fin
          Originally Posted by Eddie Titan View Post

          So you think there is something in your DNA that makes someone start his own company?

          Two people on the same street that grow up to become Chimney sweepers will still differ because they will have different experiences in other parts of their lives as they interact with society.

          That is a very broad example. Small incidents, even micro incidents, can change the way people think and perceive things.
          Yes, true.

          The sprectrum is huge and I choose 1 example. It may not be true.

          There is no right or wrong to this question. I merely gave my opinion.

          I'm sure science will let us know in due course.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezmystic
    Created, as long as you do something about it. like get off your butt and start trying something. No one owes anyone a living, you just got to sort your own stuff out and try, try and try again until you get the right process.
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  • Profile picture of the author nm5419
    Entrepreneurs are definitely born, but that doesn't mean they'll be successful entrepreneurs. You can easily tell who the unsuccessful ones are because they're the ones who gripe about coming in to work everyday. (Poor things!)
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  • Profile picture of the author OO
    If you have any education at all you know that you are not born anthing, possible to have genes that make you good or benefit you in something....last time I checked there was no biological sequence/entity representing entrepreneurs.
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    • Profile picture of the author nm5419
      Originally Posted by OO View Post

      If you have any education at all you know that you are not born anthing, possible to have genes that make you good or benefit you in something....last time I checked there was no biological sequence/entity representing entrepreneurs.
      Education? Well there goes Scott Shane's research.

      "Entrepreneurial tendencies -- including the ability to recognize business opportunities -- are heavily influenced by genetic factors, according to a study co-directed by Scott Shane, a professor of entrepreneurial studies at Case Western Reserve University."

      Are entrepreneurs born or made? - Dec. 9, 2009

      Poof! All gone.
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      • Profile picture of the author OO
        Originally Posted by nm5419 View Post

        Education? Well there goes Scott Shane's research.

        "Entrepreneurial tendencies -- including the ability to recognize business opportunities -- are heavily influenced by genetic factors, according to a study co-directed by Scott Shane, a professor of entrepreneurial studies at Case Western Reserve University."

        Are entrepreneurs born or made? - Dec. 9, 2009

        Poof! All gone.
        If you took it personally, I meant experience in higher academia, specifically qualitative research in the social sciences.

        If you call 'heavy influence' with respect to 'entrepreneurial tendencies' PROOF, in any academic sense; you need a refresher quantitative empirical research 101....

        Proof is unequivocal, supposed 'heavy influence' as an individual case is by no means unequovical causation, but merely an observation.
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        • Profile picture of the author WiFi
          Originally Posted by OO View Post

          If you took it personally, I meant experience in higher academia, specifically qualitative research in the social sciences.

          If you call 'heavy influence' with respect to 'entrepreneurial tendencies' PROOF, in any academic sense; you need a refresher quantitative empirical research 101....

          Proof is unequivocal, supposed 'heavy influence' as an individual case is by no means unequovical causation, but merely an observation.
          OO has it EXATLY right! Education is a beautiful thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author nm5419
          Originally Posted by OO View Post

          If you took it personally, I meant experience in higher academia, specifically qualitative research in the social sciences.

          If you call 'heavy influence' with respect to 'entrepreneurial tendencies' PROOF, in any academic sense; you need a refresher quantitative empirical research 101....

          Proof is unequivocal, supposed 'heavy influence' as an individual case is by no means unequovical causation, but merely an observation.
          What "proof" are you talking about? Did you misread "Poof?" I pointed to research only.
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  • Profile picture of the author echelon
    I think that people can naturally have certain personality traits. However, I also think that a person can work on bettering himself/herself.

    Because we have not full knowledge of everything, generally speaking, I find it hard to say right of the bat that things are impossible to achieve.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    Both! Sometimes they are born. Other times they are created through enterprise. Often maybe nurtured. It all boils down to 'dedire', some luck and the passion and energy to follow a good idea 'through'.

    Sometimes it's more a case of whether the right idea finds the right person... Or vise versa...
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  • Well, entrepreneurs are made...

    You can say that the Prince of Wales was born to be a King but
    other than that nobody else is born to be something.

    Some are just fast learners, have a sharp mind and are
    talented (like natural communicators and those with
    inborn people skills) that's why they seem to be more
    successful than others but everybody has to learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author LBspeaks
    I still don't know whether I was born or created... And I think if you think deep enough, it will easily get confusing.

    All I know is that I am an entrepreneur now... and that I know because I work mostly to grow a business... rather than working in it.

    LB
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  • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
    Definitely born. Or at least formed in the first few years of life through abnormal circumstances.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Titan
    Originally Posted by nm5419 View Post

    Education? Well there goes Scott Shane's research.

    "Entrepreneurial tendencies -- including the ability to recognize business opportunities -- are heavily influenced by genetic factors, according to a study co-directed by Scott Shane, a professor of entrepreneurial studies at Case Western Reserve University."

    Are entrepreneurs born or made? - Dec. 9, 2009

    Poof! All gone.
    A CNN article? How about an article from a real scientific journal...

    Shane and his fellow researchers compared the entrepreneurial activity of 870 pairs of identical twins -- who share 100% of their genes -- and 857 pairs of same-sex fraternal twins -- who share 50% -- to see how much of entrepreneurial behavior is genetic and how much is environmental.

    The mathematics behind quantitative genetic modeling are rather complicated, but the upshot was fairly straightforward: Entrepreneurs, the researchers concluded, are about 40% born and 60% made.
    One of my sociology professors brought up a good point about twin studies. It was not about this particular study. However, the point he made was relevant to all twin studies.

    Identical twins, like the 870 pairs in the study, have identical genes. The genetics that one twin has, the other must have as well. So, if they find even one pair of twins, that differ, you can not prove your point. If one of the twins have entrepreneurial tendencies and the other twin does not, it proves that genetics has nothing to do with it. It proves the hypothesis (if that is their hypothesis) to be incorrect.

    What would be interesting to see is if Scott Shane and his researchers did further studies on identical twins. Random selection of identical twins is necessary. Attempting to find pairs of identical twins with entrepreneurial tendencies is the key. The way to prove that entrepreneurial tendencies are genetic can be by finding one twin with entrepreneurial tendencies and then finding out if the other twin in the same pair also has entrepreneurial tendencies. You can survey 800 pairs of identical twins. 799 of the 800 pairs of twins can have identical entrepreneurial tendencies. If 1 pair out of the 800 contains one twin with entrepreneurial tendencies and the other twin does not contain the same tendencies, then you can not say that entrepreneurial tendencies is genetically inherited.

    The article provided does nothing to actually prove to the reader that entrepreneurial tendencies are genetic. All it can say is that genetics "may" have a part to do with it. Which I can believe. That, at most, is correct.
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    • Profile picture of the author nm5419
      Originally Posted by Eddie Titan View Post

      A CNN article? How about an article from a real scientific journal...

      One of my sociology professors brought up a good point about twin studies. It was not about this particular study. However, the point he made was relevant to all twin studies.

      Identical twins, like the 870 pairs in the study, have identical genes. The genetics that one twin has, the other must have as well. So, if they find even one pair of twins, that differ, you can not prove your point. If one of the twins have entrepreneurial tendencies and the other twin does not, it proves that genetics has nothing to do with it. It proves the hypothesis (if that is their hypothesis) to be incorrect.

      What would be interesting to see is if Scott Shane and his researchers did further studies on identical twins. Random selection of identical twins is necessary. Attempting to find pairs of identical twins with entrepreneurial tendencies is the key. The way to prove that entrepreneurial tendencies are genetic can be by finding one twin with entrepreneurial tendencies and then finding out if the other twin in the same pair also has entrepreneurial tendencies. You can survey 800 pairs of identical twins. 799 of the 800 pairs of twins can have identical entrepreneurial tendencies. If 1 pair out of the 800 contains one twin with entrepreneurial tendencies and the other twin does not contain the same tendencies, then you can not say that entrepreneurial tendencies is genetically inherited.

      The article provided does nothing to actually prove to the reader that entrepreneurial tendencies are genetic. All it can say is that genetics "may" have a part to do with it. Which I can believe. That, at most, is correct.
      I'll ask you the same thing I asked OO, which is what proof are you talking about? Did you misread "Poof?" I pointed to research only, and I'm not about to defend some other guy's work in which I wasn't involved. Take your issues up with Scott.
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      • Profile picture of the author Shane Hon
        I think it all boils down to attitude. Having a postitive mental attitude is really important for the goals that we set out to achieve.

        When faced with obstacles, successful people see it as variety instead of a dead end. This way, they are able solve the problem and even come up with new ideas from the obstalce.

        Just like feeding the body, feeding the mind with positive information and being in a positive environment with like minded people fuels the mind and spirit with strong postitive emotions and beliefs that drives them to want to succeed
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    I think it is learned at a very early stage in life.

    I have been involved with tons of mastermind groups with some very smart and successful people. The one thing they seem to do differently is compete with themselves.

    Most of the worlds population competes against each other for what they view as meaningful symbols of success or status.

    Entrepreneurs compete against themselves to be the best person / business owner they can be.

    As it turns out when you constantly measure yourself against the best you can be, you become what is perceived as "great" at many things very quickly due to all the mediocre achievers in the world
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  • Profile picture of the author GoldPro
    I agree with Eddie here.

    It is the environment you live in. The things you learn in your life time. The people you are around. The type of interests you build at a young age.
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    • Profile picture of the author elexmedia

      Entrepreneur is BORN,
      BUT...
      EVERBODY is BORN to be an Entrepreneur



      I believe every success people is working so hard to success. They struggle like everybody else to make their dreams come true. The difference is they do not stop until they succeed. Failed is not an option.
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    • Profile picture of the author blillard
      Originally Posted by GoldPro View Post

      I agree with Eddie here.

      It is the environment you live in. The things you learn in your life time. The people you are around. The type of interests you build at a young age.
      I must be tough earner because In my city all you find is gun smoke and lost hope without being funny. Look up Stockton Ca if you can, what I can add while others where riding bikes at the age of 10-12 I was out washing cars, mowing lawns and raking leaves for $5 a house. Now while others are on FB lying about whatever I'm here on warrior or somewhere similar.
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    • Originally Posted by GoldPro View Post

      It is the environment you live in. The things you learn in your life time. The people you are around. The type of interests you build at a young age.
      So basically you're saying that someone born in a humble working class industrial suburb, attending public school, surrounded by other low-end working class class mates, who's father and mother probably work in a nearby factory for legal minimum wages, etc would never be able to excel in any type of entrepreneurial or artistic activity since, at your age, he's never been exposed to any of that?

      I can give you dozens of historical examples of great minds being born to that type of social environment.

      Your social influence is obviously important, but your inherent core characteristics are even more so, and thus that's why we have brilliant minds coming out depressed social environments, and why also get useless doorknobs born to exquisite upper-class families.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eddie Titan
        Originally Posted by nm5419 View Post

        I'll ask you the same thing I asked OO, which is what proof are you talking about? Did you misread "Poof?" I pointed to research only, and I'm not about to defend some other guy's work in which I wasn't involved. Take your issues up with Scott.
        No, I did not mistake the word poof for proof :rolleyes:

        You pointed to an article that talked about scientific findings. By refrencing the article, I presumed that you agree with the article. If that is not the case, no problem. My argument is not towards you, it is towards the article and towards anyone who takes the same stand the article does.

        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        So basically you're saying that someone born in a humble working class industrial suburb, attending public school, surrounded by other low-end working class class mates, who's father and mother probably work in a nearby factory for legal minimum wages, etc would never be able to excel in any type of entrepreneurial or artistic activity since, at your age, he's never been exposed to any of that?
        How did you come to that conclusion from the statement you have quoted?

        The excerpt merely explains different things that can factor into the development of entrepreneurial tendencies in a human being.

        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        I can give you dozens of historical examples of great minds being born to that type of social environment.
        But...

        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        Your social influence is obviously important, but your inherent core characteristics are even more so, and thus that's why we have brilliant minds coming out depressed social environments, and why also get useless doorknobs born to exquisite upper-class families.
        The rich boy that is lazy. The brilliant mind that makes something out of nothing. These are generalizations. Social factors go far beyond this. I am talking about the experiences a human being has during his/her life time. Every micro experience that may/may not play an important role in how one perceives things thereafter.

        Genetics gives people certain advantages/disadvantages that makes it easier/harder to do something (like being an entrepreneur). However, there is no gene that gives you "entrepreneurial tendencies".

        From what we know now, that is factual (or more likely theoretical), we can not say that there is a correlation between genetics and entrepreneurial tendencies.

        However, like you said, you are taking a philosophical approach...

        I enjoy philosophy. However, my major is soc, and that tends to kick in more than anything else with topics like this
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        • Originally Posted by Eddie Titan View Post

          Genetics gives people certain advantages/disadvantages that makes it easier/harder to do something (like being an entrepreneur). However, there is no gene that gives you "entrepreneurial tendencies".
          I don't think there's any "biological gen" that dictates anyone's entrepreneurial behavior, or artistic talents, etc...

          But we are all undoubtedly wired in a different way at a primal level, with a very specific set of inherent characteristics. Some people are natural leaders (even in primary school), some others are introspective, some others are analytical, etc. It doesn't have anything to do with what we study at college, or with our social background, etc. We're just different, hang me if I know why.

          Take two twin brothers: why is one extrovert and party-going, and the other one responsible and hard-working?

          So, following that train of thought, I do believe entrepreneurial behavior is correlated to a "I don't mind stepping out of the beaten path" inherent characteristic. Some people have it, some others don't, and I do believe that characteristic is wired-in onto most entrepreneurs from birth.

          Yes, entrepreneurial success can be taught. Entrepreneurial behavior (both in business and life) cannot. Either you are a risk-taker, or you're not.
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  • Profile picture of the author abdulquddus
    Entrepreneurs are created...
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  • Profile picture of the author Cfomodz
    Yes, people are just born to make money... - no sarcasm

    No one, ever, has taught me a single thing about business, or making money, however I was selling on eBay before I was old enough to have a job, owned serveral websites, including eCommerce sites throughout high school, and now make a full time living on the web... I never took a class, no one ever sat me down and told me the basics of business, or how to treat customers, some people are just meant to make jobs, and the rest are meant to work said jobs, that is just how the world works.
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    • Profile picture of the author nm5419
      Originally Posted by Cfomodz View Post

      Yes, people are just born to make money... - no sarcasm

      No one, ever, has taught me a single thing about business, or making money, however I was selling on eBay before I was old enough to have a job, owned serveral websites, including eCommerce sites throughout high school, and now make a full time living on the web... I never took a class, no one ever sat me down and told me the basics of business, or how to treat customers, some people are just meant to make jobs, and the rest are meant to work said jobs, that is just how the world works.
      I've seen kids, like you were, who were waaaay ahead of their time, but with parents and teachers as dumb as mud. They're proof that to disregard a genetic propensity toward some unforeseen goal is to cheat humanity and life of its mystery (or science -- pick your religion).
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin1977
    I think if you have the right mindset then you can be real entrepreneur. So you can create yourself one. But nobody born with entrepreneur mindset. That means every entrepreneur is created. Some people have to learn less some people have to learn more or set up the the entrepreneur mindset.
    That's my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkMOZ
    It's all circumstantial, the one you least expect to do something might be the next big entrepreneur. I don't think we're born or created, it's either you do it or you don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author mindgames
    No one is born. Evolution has caused some of us to be slightly better at somethings than others but everyone can learn it.

    There are things our parents, family, friends, peers, and education failed to teach us but we can always go back,and learn these skills. Surround yourself with the right people, the right techniques, and work hard.

    -Mindgames
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  • From a "philosophical" point of view, I believe entrepreneurial behavior is a core characteristic and thus you're born with it. There are people who prefer to follow, and others who prefer to step out of the beaten path.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
      I've read a lot of biographies of successful entrepreneurs
      and one common characteristic that many of them share
      (but not all) is that they started out with their business
      ventures very, very early on.

      Some of them came from entrereneurial families and it was
      'in their blood'. Donald Trump is a prime example by following
      in his father's footsteps.

      Others were the first to become entrepreneurs in their family
      and 'learned' it from life experiences and/or other people.
      Lord Sugar and Richard Branson are just two examples.

      However, others were late developers who find their own
      entrepreneurial feet later in life. Colonel Sanders and Duncan
      Bannatyne are two examples of this.

      Sure some people are natural born entrepreneurs but it is
      possible to become more entrepreneurial provided you've
      got the base talent and dedication to do so.

      Not everyone can be an entrepreneur, but many people can
      develop into entrepreneurs if they weren't born that way.

      That said, no fecker will tell me what I can (or cannot) be.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

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  • Profile picture of the author solado
    Without a doubt some people are "wired" in a way which might allow them to make money easier than others, some people have a natural talent to draw, craft or do well in a subject without trying.

    But we see it daily. On crappy UK TV atleast. 'Celebrity cook', 'dancing on ice' or 'so you think you can dance'. People with no background of the subject are set the challenged to learn how to cook or dance - they train for hours upon hours and they get good at it and they make progress even though they have never done it in the past - so much progress that they can match the professionals.

    So i firmly believe anyone an be an Entrepreneur, it just takes practice for most.
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  • Profile picture of the author sandebdavid
    Entrepreneurs are born and made, how? I say some people have natural traits - talents - that when given a chance to exploit them will not find any hardships in excelling unlike others. Entrepreneurship is a talent just like a sports talent, some sportsmen do not need a lot of input (but they need it) to excel while some may never even excel even after a lot of input.
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  • Profile picture of the author themeforest
    Nobody is born an entrepreneur. It can be learnt. It takes certain attributes to be a successful entrepreneur, such as the courage to seize opportunities, the discipline to take action, and the ambition to grow the business. If you have these attributes, you are more likely to succeed.
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    • Originally Posted by themeforest View Post

      Nobody is born an entrepreneur. It can be learnt. It takes certain attributes to be a successful entrepreneur
      I don't think we're discussing about being a successful entrepreneur (which is obviously a learned ability through scholarship and/or experience), but rather about being an entrepreneur at all, meaning having an entrepreneurial mindset or behavior, which inherently means being a mold-breaker or risk-taker.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheJustWarrior
    The "genius gene" is passed on by Xmas sex.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy Broussard
    Like anything, there is "aptitude" and then there are those that have a "gift".

    As a piano player I had "aptitude". I simply willed my way to play pieces I really didn't possess the talent to play through shear brute will and dedication - but I never was a "gifted" pianist.

    I think Entrepreneur's are the same. Sure you can have success and you can study those in your field and "model" their approaches, etc... but the truly "gifted" well, that is something that you either have or don't.

    The beauty of it is, you don't have to be "gifted" to have tremendous success and wealth. In fact, many that are, are cursed by their own gifts and it's often times much better to be dedicated than gifted. The rare find is something that is both - truly dedicated but also gifted...

    The vast majority of successful entrepreneur's, however, are not so much "gifted" as they are relentless in their dedication...
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Kelly
    Hi,

    Entrepreneur are those that are able to take the necessary risks and persist where others drop off quickly! A significant array of factors contribute to whether you are able to walk the 'tight-rope' and at times venture into foreign terriorty.

    At the end of the day, ask your Mom. She can often tell you without blinking an eye!

    cheers, Patrick
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    "Hard work will always beat talent when talent refuses to work hard" This is my modo.

    Everything in my life was a hustle. I had to grind to get money. I've also had the worst luck in the world. Almost died at the age of 18. But through hard work and determination made my first six figures by 20. Started out selling clothing and accessories out of the trunk of my car when I first started to drive (16yrs old) and I just built up from there. The power and the secret is in what I call, creating momentum.

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  • Originally Posted by ColinT View Post

    Are Entrepreneurs Born or Created, We all know someone who manages to make money without any apparent real effort or so it seems. Others have to learn the never ending skills and work so hard just to make a few dollars. Are some of us just born moneymakers?
    I think it's both Created and born.

    I think I know what you meant by that, though. I myself think that it takes learning and you need to be a special kind of person to be an entrepreneur.

    But, like I said it's a mix.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    Hmmm, 1. So far I haven't seen a single post on birth order. It has a lot to do with how you are viewed and interacted with inside the family social structure. 2. I haven't seen a single post on the destructive power of public education. Public education doesn't even teach mediocrity very well any more.

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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    We all do not have the same capability and sense of understanding, some people are naturally gifted and go getters. For me, i think entrepreneurs are not born because a lot of people have all it takes but still do the nine to five dirty job.

    I think it is who we are? A lot of things can determine this, luck, environment, mindset, strength and a few others.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevea7777
    The simple answer is "Yes". They are born and created. But just being born with the right goods doesn't make you a success. Also being taught the skills if you don't have the personality and drive to keep at it won't let you succeed. So Yes, it takes both.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Born = has the innate skills to organize people, ideas and things to create value (or the sense of value) and make money.

    Made = forced to by circumstances, typically. There are a lot of people out there running their own businesses right now who otherwise would not be doing so, if it weren't for a lousy economy. Then there are others who were born into a situation (Dad owned the business, and when he retired they got it, or were forced to share it with siblings or some other arrangement...but somehow they got a business handed to them).
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  • What an interesting discussion! Thanks for starting it!

    I think there are WAY too many variables to say that this or that is the determining factor. And I think anyone CAN be an entrepreneur as long as they have the desire and determination and ability to learn, but success being an entrepreneur comes as much from hard work as it does from the ability to put the pieces together, and a bit of luck riding the curve has never hurt either!

    Mental attitude has a LOT to do with it. As a kid I was constantly told I couldn't do anything, couldn't have anything, couldn't count on anything. It took a long time for me to override that mental conditioning. Once I did overcome it, I managed to support myself reasonably well as a self-employed person, and have been doing so for almost two decades. In taking it to the next step I'm finding that my mindset has needed major massaging. And it started with my attitude about money.

    Money is a tool. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    The other thing that needed to change was trading a service for a set amount of money. This is unsustainable over the long haul and won't allow for growth if I'm the only one providing the service for my own company. Either I have to be able to outsource, or I have to sell a different product that can be sold over and over again.

    Great insights on this thread, even if I don't agree with everyone. LOTS of food for thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    This reminds me of a paper that i wrote in high school in my calculus class about leadership. My teacher was my basketball coach's mother, and i basically wrote that leaders are born not created. After she read my paper, she told me that she disagreed, and that i'm a great leader on the basketball team even though i didn't think so.

    So do i think that entrepreneurs are born or created? Hmmm... honestly, i tend to follow the notion that BOTH kind of entrepreneurs are created. Some are born gifted, and others are created out of entropy. Agree or disagree?
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  • Profile picture of the author tess47
    Your success is what you make it - do you intend to work, or expect to be blessed without any effort?

    Four years ago, my husband became ill and could no longer be the primary breadwinner of the family. The Lord gave me the knowledge, motivation and faith to take over. Unless you are lazy and unmotivated to do any work,you CAN achieve your goals, and live a life that if not affected by governmental factors. Yes, the unemployment rate is horrible, and people are stuggling all over the U.S to make ends meet - but faith in the Lord and a willingness to do whatever HE directs you to do can work miracles. I am living proof of that! Trust in the Lord, and don't be afraid to WORK
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    • Originally Posted by tess47 View Post

      Your success is what you make it - do you intend to work, or expect to be blessed without any effort?

      Four years ago, my husband became ill and could no longer be the primary breadwinner of the family. The Lord gave me the knowledge, motivation and faith to take over. Unless you are lazy and unmotivated to do any work,you CAN achieve your goals, and live a life that if not affected by governmental factors. Yes, the unemployment rate is horrible, and people are stuggling all over the U.S to make ends meet - but faith in the Lord and a willingness to do whatever HE directs you to do can work miracles. I am living proof of that! Trust in the Lord, and don't be afraid to WORK
      Reminds me of a client I had who needed to complete some paperwork in order to receive the money he was applying for. When confronted with the fact that he'd had two weeks to do so, and the deadline was only a couple days away, he replied, "If God wants me to get this money, he'll make sure of it."

      To which my colleague replied, in her wonderfully singsong India accent and with a totally exasperated tone of voice, "Mr. Schramm, God may want you to win the lottery, but he is NOT GOING TO BUY YOUR TICKET!"

      That was 20 years ago, and it's STILL stuck in my brain! There's a lesson here for all, I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    I don't think entrepreneurs are born, nurture plays a big part in it in my opinion
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