Hubpages or Ezinearticles???

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Hi. Can anyone tell me which is the best to write content, hubpages or ezinearticles? Pls tell the reason too. I am lil bit confuse between the two on which should i post. Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicolas simpson
    I am a fan of hubpages. sorry but i have not really tried ezinearticles to tell you which one is best.

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  • Profile picture of the author wadezwd
    IMHO, hubpages can both be used as a linking source and another income source for its ad program, although the share of you hub's revenue is tiny.
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    • Profile picture of the author amuro
      Neither.

      Based on my experience, they are both very selective.

      1. They hate affiliate links.

      2. They only want original content.


      If you post an article say an example How To Lose Weight In 30 Days Or Less to Ezine Articles, you can't post the same article to Hubpages. Same goes for Ezine Articles.

      They have built-in software to determine whether your content is original and really is content or just an advertising review.


      You need 3 things. PLR articles, article spinner and duplicate content checker software for your articles to pass through them without any issues.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          "False and misleading" is subjective - and a good claim if you are selling syndication products

          It's not that complicated. If you are promoting blogs or sites you need to use EVERY venue that leads visitors to your site.

          I have EZA articles from years ago that still bring traffic. I have hubpages from years ago that still bring income. Both are viable - neither is "the one" thing to use.

          One of the best article writing courses is the email series sent by EZA when you sign up. Hubpages is an editorial arm of promoting - you can't slam it with affiliate links (or even with multiple link to your site).

          Neither method is as powerful as it was a while back - but both have their uses. You don't need to be an expert to use either one and you don't need courses to start using them. Today I think of EZA and hubpages as feeder sites - and the more of those, the better.

          All you have to do is write something worth reading. For both EZA and hubs - THAT is a requirement.

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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            "False and misleading" is subjective
            Please excuse my disagreement, Kay, but in my opinion, when someone states that Ezine Articles doesn't accept previously published content, pointing out that that's false and misleading is NOT "subjective".

            It's an entirely objective, factual statement.

            Some of the "information" given - as so often - was just plain factually wrong.

            Tiff is right to say so and we should be grateful to her.

            It was my own naivety in believing factual misinformation of exactly that kind, in this very forum, that prevented me from earning a living at all, for many months, when I was starting off.

            In my opinion it's a really beneficial service to countless readers (some of whom don't post here at all) to point out - clearly and unambiguously - that that's "false and misleading". I only wish Tiff had been here to do that 3 years ago, when I arrived here and people were saying exactly the same thing (and usually uncorrected on it): she might have saved me a lot of time and trouble.
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        • Profile picture of the author amuro
          Originally Posted by TiffLee View Post

          It is completely false and misleading information like this that causes people to fail in IM.

          ... please (I beg of you), before you attempt to deliver advice, make sure you know what you are talking about first.


          I know exactly what I am talking about.

          When I started IM, my first 10 articles got rejected by Ezine Articles but accepted by Go Articles and other article directories.

          It was very painful and time-consuming for me to read through and rewrite those articles myself. And I am not comfortable with outsourcing to people I do not know.

          For Hubpages, when I say they do not allow affiliate links, I do mean it. Do you want me to show you screenshots of their rejection notes?

          I think you got the wrong idea completely about what I am saying. What I am saying is based upon experience.

          If you have 10 articles on any niche be it dating, healthy, make money etc, do not post all 10 to Ezine Articles and same to Hubpages. They will get rejected believe me.

          I have been marketing online full time for 3 years and I know EXACTLY what I am saying and doing.

          Spinning articles is a way of rewriting articles faster for people who do not have time to rewrite manually. People who have full time jobs, families and kids etc.

          Guys, is there anything wrong with what I say?

          If so, tell me. Other than spinning articles, is there ANY other way to rewrite articles FASTER and EFFECTIVELY? If you have, I am happy to know.

          Please don't give me advice like you should only work on niches that you know and like a lot about. Even if I do, are there markets out there just passionate about those as I do?
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          • Profile picture of the author MP80
            Hi Amuro,

            You make a few good points, and while some of what you say is correct, some is not:
            Originally Posted by amuro View Post

            When I started IM, my first 10 articles got rejected by Ezine Articles but accepted by Go Articles and other article directories.
            Yes, in my experience it is difficult as a new writer to get accepted to Ezine. My first article took (from memory) about six weeks to be approved. In the end I wrote a *firm but polite* email to them and it was immediately approved. It is worth noting that I did not need to change one word of it, and it was rejected five times for miniscule bs reasons. What I am trying to say is they could have sent one email saying fix this, this, and this, but instead they dragged it out over six weeks, drip-feeding me one reason at a time.

            Having said this, I agree (with Alexa) that the fact that it is harder to get accepted could make it a worthwhile exercise. It is also worth noting however, that in the same time it takes to get one article initially approved at Ezine, you could have 30 or so articles written and published on hubpages. But there is no reason why you could not do both, and I'm sure once you get into the groove, it would be much easier to get published on Ezine.
            Originally Posted by amuro View Post

            For Hubpages, when I say they do not allow affiliate links, I do mean it. Do you want me to show you screenshots of their rejection notes?
            This part is incorrect.. Most Hubs have affiliate links to Amazon etc. I have affiliate links in my Hubs and am making regular sales. Last time I checked you are allowed (once again from memory) two links to the same domain, per [400 word?] article. You would have to check the exact amount of words, but basically the longer the article the more links you can have.

            What HubPages will not allow however, is links to Clickbank. But of course there are many other affiliate programs out there.
            Originally Posted by amuro View Post

            If you have 10 articles on any niche be it dating, healthy, make money etc, do not post all 10 to Ezine Articles and same to Hubpages. They will get rejected believe me.
            Yes, that is correct. HubPages will not allow content to be published elsewhere (but other sites, including Ezine, will) and as you mentioned earlier they do have in-built software to police this.

            Originally Posted by amuro View Post

            Spinning articles is a way of rewriting articles faster for people who do not have time to rewrite manually. People who have full time jobs, families and kids etc...
            Originally Posted by amuro View Post

            ...Other than spinning articles, is there ANY other way to rewrite articles FASTER and EFFECTIVELY? If you have, I am happy to know.
            I see your point here, but I haven't had any real experience spinning articles so can only give an opinion:

            Personally, I think it would work ok if you check and re-write them by hand after spinning. I can see a certain logic here - since most people seem to believe the duplicate content myth, you may(?) have better results syndicating content that appears 'original'. It would also allow you to re-publish on sites that only accept unique content. I did once re-write content by hand to pass the Hubpages/copyscape test. (It took a few goes though ) At the time I was writing an article based around some comments I had left on someone's blog post, and hubpages software flagged it as duplicate content.

            Of course such content must also be written for a human audience, and of course once syndicated it is no longer going to be 'unique' anyway. Still, some warriors have reported good results with using spun content vs syndicating the same article, but as always - you would need to test this strategy for yourself, or get some feedback from someone who has actually tested it.
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            • Profile picture of the author amuro
              What HubPages will not allow however, is links to Clickbank. But of course there are many other affiliate programs out there.

              Thanks for telling me this. No one has ever told me that before. They just blindly tell me to go out and simply set up a hubpage.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by amuro View Post

            I know exactly what I am talking about.
            It seems not, I'm afraid.

            Originally Posted by amuro View Post

            Guys, is there anything wrong with what I say?
            Yes; plenty.

            As MP80 has very tactfully explained, above, some of what you say is true and some isn't.

            In your first post in this thread, you claimed that Ezine Articles won't accept articles which are already published elsewhere on the web. That's completely wrong, and (please excuse my being a little more blunt about it than MP80 above) it displays a real lack of knowledge of the very basics of "how article marketing works". Which is why Tiff immediately corrected you on your factual mistakes, there, and others of us who have successfully been doing this for a living for some years have backed her up. As explained in post #17 above.

            Some of what you've said above, Amuro, is simply factually incorrect. Sorry, but you did ask.
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            • Profile picture of the author amuro
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              It seems not, I'm afraid.

              Yes; plenty.
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post



              As MP80 has very tactfully explained, above,
              some of what you say is true and some isn't.

              In your first post in this thread, you claimed that Ezine Articles won't accept articles which are already published elsewhere on the web. That's
              completely wrong, and (please excuse my being a little more blunt about it than MP80 above) it displays a real lack of knowledge of the very basics of "how article marketing works". Which is why Tiff immediately corrected you on your factual mistakes, there, and others of us who have successfully been doing this for a living for some years have backed her up. As explained in post #17 above.

              Some of what you've said above, Amuro, is simply
              factually incorrect. Sorry, but you did ask.


              Yes, you are very blunt.

              But I don't see where I go wrong and do not wish to argue with you about this.

              I am stating the facts based on what I see and experience.


              How do you write articles? If you don't use software, I only persume you outsource them right?
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        • Profile picture of the author amuro
          Originally Posted by TiffLee View Post

          It is completely false and misleading information like this that causes people to fail in IM.

          ... please (I beg of you), before you attempt to deliver advice, make sure you know what you are talking about first.


          Reading your posts to me and other members, I can only presume you are new to IM right?

          If so, I only throw back what you just told me with my enhancements:

          Before you attempt to deliver quality advice, please make sure you think and know EXACTLY what you are talking about first.

          You might entice other people especially newbies to your advice which seems to make sense but you can't entice me as intermediate marketer.
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  • Profile picture of the author kfm24
    I recommend both the the hubpages get a lot of traffic and the article ezines get ranked well in the search engines
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by swatz89 View Post

    I am lil bit confuse between the two on which should i post. Cheers.
    Hi Swatz,

    Unfortunately, two of the answers above, however well-meaning, have just got their facts wrong and misinformed you.

    The reality is that the two (HubPages and Ezine Articles) have totally, radically, completely different purposes.

    Which one you should use depends on what you're using it for: what your purpose is - what you're trying to achieve.

    Ezine Articles is an article directory. It has only one purpose: to make your articles available to others who are looking for content to re-publish. It won't (and shouldn't) be of any value to you for gathering customer-traffic (if it is, you're doing something wrong), and its own backlinks have no real value for you. Those are not what it's there for. This little thread makes it really clear: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

    If you're thinking of posting your content on websites that belong to other people (EZA, Hub, or whomever), that little thread - including the links inside it - is "essential reading" first, I'd say.

    HubPages is a whole different thing. It isn't an article directory at all. It's a "Web 2.0 site" on which you can build pages, without ever being able to own or control them, without being able to re-publish content that's already on your site, without being able to use affiliate links, and always subject to their ever-changing terms of service and their sometimes weird interpretations of them. I used to use it just as part of my backlinking strategy, but gave it up over 2 years ago and I'm very glad I did.

    Always read the terms of service carefully, before posting on other people's sites.



    Originally Posted by kfm24 View Post

    the article ezines get ranked well in the search engines
    Thankfully, this is completely wrong. And that would be a disadvantage, anyway: an article directory is the last place one would want one's potential customers to find through a search engine. That's not what they're there for at all. You, too, will be helped by reading the little thread linked to just above.



    Originally Posted by amuro View Post

    If you post an article say an example How To Lose Weight In 30 Days Or Less to Ezine Articles, you can't post the same article to Hubpages. Same goes for Ezine Articles.


    Sorry, but this is just nonsense - it's pure fiction: one of the "urban myths" of internet marketing.

    Article directories (including EZA) do not require previously unpublished content.

    All my 1,600+ articles in EZA had been published in various other places (some of them in many other places, some already ranking highly on Google), in identical form, prior to being submitted there.

    EZA themselves specifically invite their authors to submit previously published articles (provided they're long enough and comply with the editorial guidelines, obviously). It says so openly on their site, in their blog, in the introductory emails they send out to new authors, in their article marketing course, and so on.

    There are 100+ threads here discussing and clarifying this point, many of them with links to EZA's site, blog and so on. This one will start your collection, if you like.
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    • Profile picture of the author swatz89
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Hi Swatz,

      Unfortunately, two of the answers above, however well-meaning, have just got their facts wrong and misinformed you.

      The reality is that the two (HubPages and Ezine Articles) have totally, radically, completely different purposes.

      Which one you should use depends on what you're using it for: what your purpose is - what you're trying to achieve.

      Ezine Articles is an article directory. It has only one purpose: to make your articles available to others who are looking for content to re-publish. It won't (and shouldn't) be of any value to you for gathering customer-traffic (if it is, you're doing something wrong), and its own backlinks have no real value for you. Those are not what it's there for. This little thread makes it really clear: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

      If you're thinking of posting your content on websites that belong to other people (EZA, Hub, or whomever), that little thread - including the links inside it - is "essential reading" first, I'd say.

      HubPages is a whole different thing. It isn't an article directory at all. It's a "Web 2.0 site" on which you can build pages, without ever being able to own or control them, without being able to re-publish content that's already on your site, without being able to use affiliate links, and always subject to their ever-changing terms of service and their sometimes weird interpretations of them. I used to use it just as part of my backlinking strategy, but gave it up over 2 years ago and I'm very glad I did.

      Always read the terms of service carefully, before posting on other people's sites.





      Thankfully, this is completely wrong. And that would be a disadvantage, anyway: an article directory is the last place one would want one's potential customers to find through a search engine. That's not what they're there for at all. You, too, will be helped by reading the little thread linked to just above.





      Sorry, but this is just nonsense - it's pure fiction: one of the "urban myths" of internet marketing.

      Article directories (including EZA) do not require previously unpublished content.

      All my 1,600+ articles in EZA had been published in various other places (some of them in many other places, some already ranking highly on Google), in identical form, prior to being submitted there.

      EZA themselves specifically invite their authors to submit previously published articles (provided they're long enough and comply with the editorial guidelines, obviously). It says so openly on their site, in their blog, in the introductory emails they send out to new authors, in their article marketing course, and so on.

      There are 100+ threads here discussing and clarifying this point, many of them with links to EZA's site, blog and so on. This one will start your collection, if you like.
      hey thanks for this informative response.
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  • Profile picture of the author pramwebninja
    hello friend ..
    i am going to compare them and selection is in your hand:
    Hubpage :
    Get index in google in less then 24 hour for some article (based on my experience)
    They allow only unique and quality contents
    You can get backlinks as well as a source of income
    hubpage hate affiliate links
    most probably hubpage articles are found on first or second page of google
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    Ezine article :
    take a little time for index but not in less then 24 hour
    now a day i read many post about ezine article that ezine is going to die(not based on my experience)

    ezine article is a directory (it allow normal quality or low quality unique content )

    by the way i want to make it clear that i like hubpage and squidoo.
    and i recommend squidoo more then hubpage. because squidoo allow affiliate links, good in design, allow backlinking for their article by posting article links in SQUID forum
    and also a good source of income.

    According to my rating:

    1.SQUIDOO(page pank 8)
    2.Hubpage(page rank 7)
    3.ezine article, Article bases, article alley and wiki how.

    hope it will help you
    thanks friend


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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by pramwebninja View Post


      ezine article is a directory (it allow normal quality or low quality unique content )


      WRONG!
      Ezine Articles does NOT require unique content.

      Originally Posted by pramwebninja View Post

      hope it will help you
      thanks friend
      Most unlikely, having provided completely erroneous advice.:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author swatz89
        Ezine Articles does NOT require unique content.




        really. i didn't know about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by amuro View Post

      Neither.

      Based on my experience, they are both very selective.

      1. They hate affiliate links.

      2. They only want original content.


      If you post an article say an example How To Lose Weight In 30 Days Or Less to Ezine Articles, you can't post the same article to Hubpages. Same goes for Ezine Articles.

      They have built-in software to determine whether your content is original and really is content or just an advertising review.


      You need 3 things. PLR articles, article spinner and duplicate content checker software for your articles to pass through them without any issues.
      Er, I would disagree with and recommend against using any of the quoted advice.

      Originally Posted by pramwebninja View Post

      hello friend ..
      i am going to compare them and selection is in your hand:
      Hubpage :
      Get index in google in less then 24 hour for some article (based on my experience)
      They allow only unique and quality contents
      You can get backlinks as well as a source of income
      hubpage hate affiliate links
      most probably hubpage articles are found on first or second page of google
      -----
      Ezine article :
      take a little time for index but not in less then 24 hour
      now a day i read many post about ezine article that ezine is going to die(not based on my experience)

      ezine article is a directory (it allow normal quality or low quality unique content )

      by the way i want to make it clear that i like hubpage and squidoo.
      and i recommend squidoo more then hubpage. because squidoo allow affiliate links, good in design, allow backlinking for their article by posting article links in SQUID forum
      and also a good source of income.

      According to my rating:

      1.SQUIDOO(page pank 8)
      2.Hubpage(page rank 7)
      3.ezine article, Article bases, article alley and wiki how.

      hope it will help you
      thanks friend


      I can't comment much on Squidoo or Hubpages; but I've read each and every thread about EZA that has come out for like the past month, and can soundly confirm that you are not using it for it's intended purpose. Thus, it seems like a worthless site to you.

      EZA is for syndication, and has nothing to do with backlinks, directly placing your affiliate links, or anything like that.

      For your use of strange colors, I will be forwarding you the bill from my optometrist.


      Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post


      Most unlikely, having provided completely erroneous advice.:rolleyes:
      He was nice enough to post a thread though where his claims here could quickly be proven false:


      Originally Posted by pramwebninja View Post

      hey here is any another post on forum you can get more idea about ezine article
      Ezine article dead
      Maybe he is just messing with our heads...
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  • Profile picture of the author Viramara
    EZA wants ORIGINAL, not unique content. it was stated in their editorial.

    I personally prefer guest blogging than article directories. these blogs/websites already have established, loyal traffic. so if you're confused to choose EZA or web 2.0, you might want to try guest posting as your traffic alternative....sorry for a bit off topic, just my .02
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    • Profile picture of the author swatz89
      Originally Posted by Viramara View Post

      EZA wants ORIGINAL, not unique content. it was stated in their editorial.

      I personally prefer guest blogging than article directories. these blogs/websites already have established, loyal traffic. so if you're confused to choose EZA or web 2.0, you might want to try guest posting as your traffic alternative....sorry for a bit off topic, just my .02
      its ok mate. can u tell me good guest blogging site.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    Originally Posted by swatz89 View Post

    Hi. Can anyone tell me which is the best to write content, hubpages or ezinearticles? Pls tell the reason too. I am lil bit confuse between the two on which should i post. Cheers.
    Why not use both? It's best to publish on your own site first, but then you can also publish it on as many article directories, Web 2.0 properties, social networks, etc. that you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

      It's best to publish on your own site first, but then you can also publish it on as many article directories, Web 2.0 properties, social networks, etc. that you want.
      Well, it's not quite as simple as this, Larry, unfortunately.

      What you're saying is correct for article directories, but often not so for Web 2.0 properties, some of which don't allow you to post there things that are already on your own blog. Which is one of the reasons why it's so important always to read the TOS.

      There are many answers to the question "Why not use both?", asked above. They're opinion only. Some of them revolve around the view that HubPages may offer you nothing that you can't get on better terms and with fewer restrictions elsewhere. You know, it's always possible for people to say, to any question here, "Why not do that as well?". It sounds so logical, and positive, and constructive, doesn't it? But not always. One has to face the fact that all activities are not equal. Some are a waste of time compared with other, better things one could be doing instead. "Why not do both?" is actually not some wonderful panacea for all these situations! I'm "just saying" ...
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  • Profile picture of the author DoubleD3
    I would suggest you to drop EzineArticles as I have experienced major drop in traffic from EzineArticles.com

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    • Profile picture of the author TiffLee
      Originally Posted by DoubleD3 View Post

      I would suggest you to drop EzineArticles as I have experienced major drop in traffic from EzineArticles.com

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      The bolded part? ... yeah, that is your problem.

      You should never expect to get traffic directly from EZ.
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      • Profile picture of the author BlackIrish
        Originally Posted by TiffLee View Post

        The bolded part? ... yeah, that is your problem.

        You should never expect to get traffic directly from EZ.
        So what you and some of the other members are saying is that we should expect our articles on EZA to be syndicated on other sites together with their author resource boxes, and then expect traffic from those that re-publish the article (alongside the link found in the resource box)?
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        • Profile picture of the author nm5419
          Originally Posted by BlackIrish View Post

          So what you and some of the other members are saying is that we should expect our articles on EZA to be syndicated on other sites together with their author resource boxes, and then expect traffic from those that re-publish the article (alongside the link found in the resource box)?
          That's what they're claiming, however Google shoves "syndicated" and duplicate content into an archive of unseen supplemental results in an effort to provide a valuable web experience (you can read more about that here: Supplemental Result - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

          According to Google, "duplicate content generally refers to substantive blocks of content within or across domains that either completely match other content or are appreciably similar." And it requires publishers who use copied content on their sites to adorn it with a noindex tag so that Google can keep it out of its index. (Authoritative source: Duplicate content - Webmaster Tools Help)

          Article marketing fanatics will also claim you can successfully and profitably circumvent Google's requirement for a valuable web experience by "syndicating" your content to electronic newsletter hosts. However, there are no statistics to support that theory.

          If it's traffic that you're after, there are much more productive ways to go about it, some even requiring offline activities. Online, you can:
          • research guest blogging (which is Google penalty-free)
          • participate in networks that your target market participates in
          • properly SEO your own original content for your own website
          • buy PPC advertising
          • secure quality and relevant link exchanges
          • develop a viral tool of some sort

          That will get you started in a direction that doesn't require underground techniques or contributing to web spam.
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by nm5419 View Post

            Article marketing fanatics will also claim you can successfully and profitably circumvent Google's requirement for a valuable web experience by "syndicating" your content to electronic newsletter hosts. However, there are no statistics to support that theory.
            Oh Dave, still no facts from you. Just stuff you've plucked from the binternets.

            Sounds awfully like a rebuttal to another one of my posts. Have you never used ezines, offline magazines and other syndication methods? Do you really think it all revolves around EZA and directories?

            Deary me Dave, deary me. So much to learn and clearly no time left for you to think.

            ...and lets not get into stats Dave, you got 25 mistaken for 250 amongst other nonsense!

            You are funny...
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    << You know, it's always possible for people to say, to any question here, "Why not do that as well?". It sounds so logical, and positive, and constructive, doesn't it? But not always. One has to face the fact that all activities are not equal. Some are a waste of time compared with other, better things one could be doing instead. "Why not do both?" is actually not some wonderful panacea for all these situations! >>

    Alexa, I agree that it's not a panacea for every issue. Granted, my answer was glib and not well thought out, especially since I haven't used Hub Pages myself in a very long time. However, in general, I think the strategy of "why not do both/all" is more productive than spending a lot of time worrying about which is better. Most of the time (there are exceptions, I admit), you don't lose anything by doing X, Y and Z, even if Y and Z turn out to be less effective than X. You're wasting time, of course, but when it comes to publishing, how long does it take to send an article somewhere? You make a good point, though, about checking TOS first, so you don't get banned from a site!
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  • Profile picture of the author Haris Tahic
    HubPages does not review articles prior to publication. This means that there is the possibility of more "spam" or other "junk" articles being published. Since the web is an array of connections, the quality articles written by an author may be lumped together with lower quality articles. However, HubPages does police its site, so the proliferation of junk or link loaded articles can be checked, although there is no guarantee that such measures will be sufficient. However, pre-review of articles is no guarantee of quality either.
    Although Ezines does review article prior to publication, the review is primarily a technical one, ensuring that the writer did not place more links than allowed within the article, and that those links are not placed too high or in the wrong manner. While grammatically awful articles are rejected, there are plenty of "worthless" articles published on Ezines as well. Serious writers need not worry about ever having an article rejected based on the quality of the writing, nor the topic.


    And, from my personal expirience, my vote goes to Ezines.
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  • Profile picture of the author swingin4dafence
    Hey Swatz89,

    Just my two cents here. It is good that you are asking what works "better." Each of them are tools for you to use - no more - no less. Each has a purpose and if you are familiar with the "effectiveness" of Squidoo vs. HubPages vs. EZA with each specific kind of campaign then you either need to have PLAN and CRAFT your postings to achieve your GOALS or just blast stuff out and wait and see.

    In my humble experience no 10 IM'ers are going to agree on which is the best way to go. Everyone has different experiences. The web is not static and the plain fact is that some campaigns may work better for some subject matter vs. other subject matter - depends on saturation, topicality and demand trending, etc. All the sophisticated honing and sharpening of your campaign can come in time. The best way to "know for sure" what works best for you with your specific campaign is to post in each and monitor and measure and tweak.

    I prefer to use all high value unique content to measure results. This is one of the few variables I can control when trying to assess measuring success and it eliminates the possibility of discounted duplicate content while hopefully maximizing views due to freshness.

    Study each of your targets for your chosen niche. Form a plan. Deploy your campaign in all three and measure and tweak. Repeat your success.

    NB: Do not expect that the same approach will work with all your niches. You have to adapt to the terrain and stay nimble.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    As of to date, Hubpages gets more traffic than EzineArticles, but i wouldn't rule EZA just yet. I think they can rebound from Panda. If you really want a good answer... use both of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardHarland
    Ezinearticles is more better.Hubpages hates external links and requires unique content.
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  • Profile picture of the author grandstar
    Hubpages wants original content. If its been previously published elsewhere, it will alert you.

    But if its content already in hub pages and you now post it in ezinearticles,you shouldn't have a problem. Ezine isn't fussy as long as you are the author.

    Pls note that hubpages traffic already has alot of natural traffic has it is a network. Ezinearticles on the other hand is an article directory where webmasters go to find articles to republish on their websites or send to their list. This can send you loads of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author NddS777
    lol -- , thought I'd throw some stats in to make this even more interesting. Check the Compete stats on both sites below:

    hubpages.com 9,794,034 UVs for November 2011 | Compete
    ezinearticles.com 4,988,702 UVs for November 2011 | Compete

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author cargen
    This past 3 month I have been using hubpages and squidoo for my articles.. Since the google panda, ezinearticles have dropped drastically.

    There is a thread about eza, read thru the middle, there were screenshots about the decline.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...continues.html

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author daveyace
    is it for link building or just getting traffic to the article?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    Neither one is worth your time anymore, IMO. Try Squidoo or World Village. I have good luck with them. Buzzle is another good one, but they are stringent on what content they accept.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Kilcoyne
    Thanks for the comparisons,they will be useful going forward
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by John7485 View Post

      Hubpages hates external links and requires unique content.
      Hunpages has straight out lost their mind. They no longer allow Clickbank hop links, squeeze page links, or links to a blog that promotes Clickbank products! As an internet marketer, they are completely useless now. If you are into sharing Adsense revenue with someone, I guess thye are alright. My recommendation would be to forget the lot of them and start your own Wordpress blog, then build backlinks and rank your own content. Why let Hubpages or Ezine Articles profit off your hard work?

      Unless you are doing it for backlinks, article marketing isn't really worth it. It's good in the fact that you can get your articles syndicated, and in hopes get a ton of backlinks and maybe some traffic.

      But I have found that 90% of the blogs who pick up my article don't include my resource box or they spin the content so the article doesn't make sense, or it's some crappy autoblog with no page rank.

      Bottom line, the payout is not worth the work.
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  • Profile picture of the author MP80
    Originally Posted by swatz89 View Post

    Hi. Can anyone tell me which is the best to write content, hubpages or ezinearticles? Pls tell the reason too. I am lil bit confuse between the two on which should i post. Cheers.
    Hi Swatz,

    To answer your question - It will depend on what you are trying to achieve.

    EzineArticles - EzineArticles is an Article Directory. This is where webmasters and publishers go to find content for their sites and ezines. They will re-publish your content, along with a link back to another article/landing page of yours. You first publish the article on your site and wait for it to get indexed in google. You then submit it to EzineArticles (obviously you cannot do this if you are using it on hubpages) with a link to another page of yours placed within the resource box. It is best not to have it link back to the original article, but it must link back to a page/site with the same/your author name.

    If you find your content being used anywhere incorrectly, you will need to contact the blog owner to correct it. If they do not respond you can file a DMCA takedown with them, their website host and/or google (to get them de-indexed).

    Do not bother to try and get search engine traffic or backlinks directly from EzineArticles. Your traffic and links will come from the blogs etc on which your article is republished. These are (hopefully ) going to rank higher than your article in Ezine, and most will already have established traffic and readers anyway.

    Since google's Panda update, sites perceived to be 'content farms' are no longer ranking highly. There is some debate over what defines a content farm, but basically they are sites with large amounts of content designed primarily to game search engines, and generate adsense income. Their articles are usually relatively short, provide no real value, are loaded with targeted keywords, and surrounded by adsense advertisements. Google now applies a domain-wide penalty to these sites, in essence removing their content from the first page of the search engine results. Since (In google's opinion) EzineArticles and Hubpages both fit this category, they have taken a hit in google's search engine results.

    Not to worry though - EzineArticles still gets something like 5 million views per month, which is not to be sneezed at! This, however, doesn't mean that you can just place an article on there and wait for it to be syndicated. You will need to actively contact and promote it to blog owners in your niche, until you [at least] start to get well known and develop a following of publishers.

    Alexa Smith is the resident expert re EzineArticles (you may have noticed ) and I have learnt a lot by following her advice/threads. No doubt she will appreciate the fact that someone is actually listening lol, and I am even more sure that if wrong, I will soon be corrected!

    HubPages - This, I do have a little more first-hand knowledge of, plus I have a bit of a soft spot for Hubpages. It is a community of 'writers', most of who are trying to make money from adsense, or Amazon. Personally I do not like adsense, google etc, and I have never bothered to get an adsense account. Relying on google for anything is kind of like gambling IMO, but hey - each to their own. (Having said that, there are still people making huge $$$ from Adsense by creating 'Authority Sites', but that's a whole other story! ) Thankfully though, you can have affiliate links at Hubpages, but not to clickbank (see my post#30 above). They also specify no links to ebooks but, since the use of Kindle ebooks is on the rise, I (/you ) would have to check if this still applies.

    Since the Panda update most Hubbers experienced a drastic loss of income from adsense, due to the fact that google now treats HubPages as a 'content farm'. Since a domain-wide 'penalty' applies, it doesn't matter whether hubpages content was published on another domain first, or hubpages first - it is still not doing well in google's search engine. Most hub owners are reporting that their stolen/republished content is ranking higher than their original content, and once again, this is because google is treating Hubpages as a content farm. To combat this, and attempt to gain back their google rankings, Hubpages has introduced a lot of new rules and stricter monitoring.

    Yes, you could once have 'duplicate' content on HubPages, but it was given a low 'hubscore' and was not allowed to have any outgoing links. Since panda, having your content anywhere else on the web is against their terms of service. If their software detects it on other domains it will send you a warning and place a red copyright symbol next to the article listing in your hubpages dashboard. You are not penalised at first because they realise that in most cases someone has stolen/copied and pasted it, so they give you time to get it removed. According to their blog, you are given two weeks (to file a DMCA takedown etc) before your hub is automatically unpublished.

    There are reports that HubPages software is not picking up all infringements, so you may get away with republishing it elsewhere for a while. But it is definitely frowned upon by most people on Hubpages, because they believe that 'duplicate content' is the reason why google is penalising the whole site. In actual fact, Hubpages most probably wants it removed so that google has 'no choice' but to show their content instead of a scraped version. Oh, and did I mention it is also against their terms of service anyway?

    If your content is not stolen/ copied, but instead detected as previously published on another domain, they will automatically unpublish your hub until it is removed (and de-indexed) from the other domain.

    So is publishing on HubPages still worth it? IMO - Yes, if you are willing to get involved in the community. Hubpages is a community (similar to WarriorForum) and like WF - if you try to spam or take shortcuts you won't get far. There are many human moderators, plus software to detect infringements. You may get away with breaking the rules for a while, but it will catch up with you eventually. The benefit of becoming part of the community is that you can easily profile your potential buyers, and target your hubs around their frustrations and needs. You can develop a good rapport with, and gain followers - and we all know that people buy from those who they know, like and trust. Not to mention that every time you publish a new hub your followers will receive an email and you will have instant traffic. So, in a way, you have a ready-made list without the cost of an autoresponder, etc.

    There is also an in-house system for promoting your hubs to other hubbers - if your hub is quality, and you are participating in the community (asking/answering questions, leaving comments, using the forum) you will receive a high hubber and hub score, be recognized as an authority, and get a lot of traffic. So in that way it is similar to WarriorForum, although most hubbers are amateur writers, and not marketers. There is a lot of confusion/ conflicting information there about what google wants, and how to make money. (Come to think of it, that is also a lot like WF! ) My point is that there is an opportunity for people who know what they are doing/talking about to gain a strong following there.

    Further good news is that Hubpages still gets millions of unique views per month (roughly double that of EzineArticles and slightly more than Squidoo), plus the writers and staff are doing all that they can to recover their search engine rankings for the long term. You could currently rank highly there by using backlinks, but it would take quite a bit of effort. In that regard, hubpages doesn't provide any real benefit over owning your own site at the moment. In fact it would (probably) take less effort to rank your own site at the current time. If you are looking for search engine traffic, and don't want to start your own site, Squidoo will be much easier to rank. I have seen many Squidoo lenses ranking on the first page, but haven't noticed any Hubs there lately.

    Either way - IMO both EzineArticles and Hubpages still have their uses and, if used correctly, can both be very effective. I also agree that owning your own site at some stage is still a must, and something that you should eventually be aiming for.

    Hope that helps! :p

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  • Profile picture of the author damasgate
    Personally after the panda update, they haven't been getting me as much traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Earley
    I love hubpages a lot more than ezine articles. Both have guidelines and rules for allowable content, but hubpages allows more freedom in my experience. So many of my unique submissions to ezine articles have been denied for really picky things. I submitted a review and they denied it because it was negative toward the product! Not every review is going to be positive people, unbelievable. Also, there is a community at hubpages that is very talkative. People will actually read what you write and comment on it. It's a much better atmosphere.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Earley
    Oops, forgot one important thing. At hubpages they provide modules that you can place within your hubs. This allows you to add your rss feed, videos or even ebay items to your hubs. They even let you earn for the adsense clicks on your hub if you set it up. It's really sweet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Banks
    Hubpages although less effective after Panda is the best in my experience. Ezine articles keeps hitting an obstruction with Google in the organic SERPs.
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