There must be an option so that no Newbie can make a thread before completing his first 50 Posts....

Now were getting somewhere. I am now just posting have 33 posts, hopefully most are helpful and haven't even thought about starting a thread yet. I do believe we need to give before we can receive. I would even vote for 100. Dig the trenches before you reap the rewards.

What exactly do you mean by "an unusual thread"? And how do you propose that the moderators police such things? What specific criteria makes a thread "unusual"?

Or are you suggesting that new members should not be able to start threads until their post count reaches a certain level? If that's the case then what about the introductory thread that many new members post first?

I fully agree that it would be nice to eliminate some of the garbage threads that are posted here by new members in an obvious attempt to build up their post count - there seems to be an abundance of these lately. Any practical proposal to eliminate those threads would definitely have my full support.

Bill

I think she is up to something, she asked alot of questions like that. I went ahead and answered most but seems to be another motive there for posting all those questions, maybe she thinks by starting all those threads she is getting somewhere, I don't know but I am following her to see the outcome lol.

Personally I hate that idea.

What if an individual who has already created tremendous success online but has not been a member chooses to join us on the Warrior Forum. Why should they wait to create a thread? They may have some insights they are excited to share immediately.

Or..What about the person just trying to get started who has taken time to read 20 complete threads, read the All-In-One threads on a topic, but have a few nagging questions? Should they have to wait until they have posted 50 "That was helpful, thanks" messages on the Warrior Forum before they ask their well-thought out question?

While there may be many newbies who ask questions which seem silly or could have been answered with a quick search, it is often those same threads which turn into lively discussions which become valuable to all of us.

Now, if you had said needed to have 50 posts before they could list a WSO I would probably agree. That is small price to pay for the benefit of marketing here.

If that happens, there will be a deluge of useless one-liner posts.

I don't think that you necessarily need that rule, since the forum
is self-policing, and at times brutal

What you're witnessing is often people new to the forum read
about it in an ebook or report, and are told that this is one of
the best ways to grow their businesses. So, they register and
start posting without really looking around... which often annoys
old-times

The reason that it annoys the old-timers is that the newbies
ask the same questions that have been asked 100 times, and a
simple search on the forum would show long threads on some
topics. Helpful, crusty, old-timers often point out these
threads to anxious newbies

Perhaps a note at the top of the registration page (or in
the welcome/confirmation email), asking new members to
look around first, would be helpful.

Willie

Actually my point is not that making a new thread is wrong one but when a thread is made in a way which has no worth and a person who joins newly start making lots of threads for selling his services or some thread which are not helpful one.

I have given an example also above for social bookmarking.

I actually want to say that these kind of blogs make spam for this forum. I completely agree with you that this forum has complete security locks but still spamming is there.

If somebody has any successful story then he/she will share it with us after completing his first 30-40 posts. We are not dying today to read that one.

There must be a kind of system so that a new member must have to go with that in a proper manner. New introductions are good but is there any sense for it means making a thread like "Newbie saying Hello"... if a person is new member then its already known to everybody whenever he comments anywhere but instead of doing such they start making their own in starting.

Well i don't want to disrespect you all guys simply you all are experts and spent lots of time here but i just want to put my views and i wrote it.

As someone suggested above: why not let newbies make threads and ask questions? how to you expect them to give back when they don't have any value to offer?

That's why they are called newbies, because they are new and don't possess enough information otherwise they wouldn't be here.

I agree there's a flood of new threads here, but this is not the solution. Maybe giving them a free pdf with basic jargon and methods would be a better way to achieve your desired outcome but then again there are stickies that provide this information.

Thanks for this useful thread about golfing*

*What would happen if people needed 50 posts in order to create a thread.

When I first joined WF, I was able to make a couple of threads asking for advice on technical matters which were holding me back- I had the answers within a couple of replies and hopefully someone else may have learnt something from my query. If I hadn't been able to ask I would have been stuck for a lot longer.

I guess that no matter how stringent the rules are there will always be spammers and people who just want to try to push up post count without adding anything of value- that's the nature of the business we are in...

Ramone_Johnny- no- that's two lines!!

Perhaps a better solution would be to have a dedicated n00bs forum, or perhaps an "established members" section???

i think you can skip this rule if you join the war room.

i have joined it same they i became a member of this forum - now i have only 67 posts to my account but i have created few threads well before reaching 50 post count.

I like the newbie forum idea that I read in here.

But, I'm still a newbie and before I hit 50 posts I asked a ton of questions but only made 2-3 threads. Mostly, just to clarify something I have learned/learning by searching the forum. If I wouldn't have had the option to ask in a thread, I might not be at the level I'm at of learning.

I mean, it would have been beneficial to have a newbie forum with posts that tell you what SEO is or what anything means that is IM related. I found a forum post earlier linking what those such things are, and I'm glad I found it but it was in a place I wouldn't have thought to look. Things like that should be in a newbie forum, but I don't think that it should mean they can't necessarily post and ask questions.

I was a newbie once, but I took an arrow to the knee.

The problem is that most people dont read the rules or terms before joining a website. This is because they are in a haste.

Also posting a thread immediately you join a forum shows that you are not a professsional and you will not get quality reply. You will have to make the forum members trust your professionalism by first making meaningful contributions.

Yet another suggestion that would punish those people
that really need help?

There are already enough rules around here. Why make
it more difficult for people who have genuine questions
and need our help?

The problem isn't the "newbies"... it's the people who
can't be bothered to report self promotional threads.

Again... If you see a thread, or post, that you think is
somehow breaking the rules or is not in the best interests
of the forum or its members... Use the report button:

Your report will be seen by the Mods who will then decide
what, if any, action is required.


John

As suggested elsewhere it might be an idea to have an 'entry' area where you can post questions as a newbie. After a certain post count (say 25) you can play with the big boys and girls in the main forum.
It would remove a lot of clutter and replication from the main forums.
Those warriors with an altruistic nature could stop by the newbie section and help people out. Perhaps if a thread is voted on it could be promoted to the main forum from the newbie section?
....Probably not doable from a technical standpoint, or may just be unnecessary anyway.
I think the OP is basically making the point that clutter is an issue in WF, too many questions posted which have been flogged to death in previous posts. Some would argue that's a small price to pay to get to the good information, but it could always be made better/easier...

I understand the issue,

but I don't agree that the solution is to don't allow the new members to start a thread before they have posted 30-50 posts.

The result of this option would be that the new members would quickly post 30-50 worthless posts just to be able to start a thread. And this means maybe less garbage threads, but just A LOT MORE garbage posts.

As mentioned before, a big note that asks for using the search function before starting a thread should be good.

An alternative solution could be is to using a little test by answering some questions about the rules etc. just to filter out spammers.

Because the most common lie ever online is: "I have read and agreed with the terms and conditions"

Op: seriously It's annoying you so much?

Why havnt you asked for that rule when you got started??

[B]What in this world makes you think a member with less than 50 posts has to be a newbie???[/B

What if one has a question and find an answer for?

Why not just contribute,?? help them and if your realy annoyed umm just don't help...I gladly will!

Written by complete newbie , there no such thing as a "Dumb or Stupid" question remember we all were and still are newbies , no one person knows it all !! hence we asked questions and Warriors old and new to this day still asked the same question on a varietyof subjects to do with IM.

Jason

Yet another idea for rules to create a high barrier to entry.

If I were a newbie, and I have a technical problem about my wp blog, are suggesting I shouldn't be allowed to create a thread because I don't have 50 posts?

Hilarious.

One look at all threads started by seoglobalexperts004 and you'll find dozens of such worthless topics. Not to mention most of them take effort to decipher. I presume that its ok to post them after your count is over 170?

And yet, somehow this forum has survived, what, 10 years or so without such a rule. Go figure.

Mates i am seeing that you all are disagree with me but still i want to say that my target is not that making my relations bad here.

My point was that if there must be a rule or something like that so that no a newcomer can make such kind of posts. I am agree when i joined i was also newbie and done the same mistakes but after spending time here i realize that this forum is a great place for Internet Marketing. But sometimes i saw that lots of people joins and starts making some senseless stuffs. May be in your thinking i am also making a senseless appeal but what i feel i just put my views here.

And i knew it very well that its not in my hand to do anything here but i have the rights to put my views here so i did it.

If any body thinks i am also making such a non sense thread then he will also report it from Triangle button.

Some one told me that i have given an example above for social bookmarking. As all we know that there are lots of source for learning such stuffs instead of making a question here he has to find the answer on web.

Thanks.

While I get your point, I would personally do not mind reading threads that were started by new warriors as long as the content is relevant and helpul/interesting. In fact I just started my first thread though I just joined last month BTW I've been making living with IM for a few years now so I can offer something of value for some warriors here for sure... and I'm happy to do that.

I think dealing with newbie's annoying questions is just the nature of the beast.

Every master was at one time a newbie.

Let us help the new people, and perhaps one day they will teach us something.

50 posts sounds like somewhat restricting.

In my opinion we do mistakes in starting. When i joined this forum i was also a newbie and truly said that i haven't read the rules in starting and start making some mistakes and then got stucked with it.

Ya its true sometimes we are in hurry to earn and for doing PM or else and in that case we start making some threads so that people replies on it and we also do comment on it and in that manner it will complete our first 30-40 posts and then we do some thing else.

But its not a organic one, we just have to first read the things here and then go with it. I am also not thinking that before spending time here you'll know this forum betterly.

We have to spent time here and then move forward.

We should relax a little, 50 is too restricting, some won't even bother with that number.

I think everyone should be allowed to post from the start. However maybe a newbies section may help both the newbies, as they may feel more secure in a newbie forum and ask all the questions they want. I am sure lots of them don-t ask things because they may feel a little afraid. This would also help the more established members as the normal sections would have more useful information and they could just pop into the newbie section to answer questions when they are inclined to help out.

I agree that it would be a good idea for newbies to have a certain amount of posts before launching new threads, one forum I visited, constantly reminded anyone posting a new thread to check if it has not been posted before and there would be dire consequences if the thread was a duplicate

In my opinion that would just be okay. Depending on what you mean about "unusual posts". As long as they follow the rules of the forums and not just troll around. Its okay to share in insights of any topic they want to be part of. Everyone here can contribute.

I think my very first thread, I introduced myself to the forum. Three years later I'm still here, so I must've done something right.

Report the ones who try to spam from the get-go (or ANY thread, really), and they'll be locked out. No need to punish EVERYONE just because a few jackasses couldn't behave themselves.

Hmmm, not sure that would be a good idea either. Some newbies could have quite a bit to offer. Case in point. I was precluded from commenting on the IM Review Thread, but felt that I really had something to contribute. In fact, I am not sure if I was more upset about the bogus product I had purchased, or the fact that I could not forewarn other potential buyers. However, the product was a big scam, and because I did not have enough post counts I was not allowed to comment.

Not only do I think I had some worthwhile information to share, but the customer support provided by the seller's so-called "team" was an even greater offense. In fact, the support staff hadn't a clue on some very key features of the product, not to mention the upsells. It was a nightmare.... Nonetheless I was redeemed by Clickbank, but could have possibly saved other WF members a lot of headaches, had I been allowed to post to the thread.