Amazon suddenly closed my Associate Account without notice $3K+ commission not paying!

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Amazon suddenly shut down my account without notice and don't pay me over $3000 commission (i.e. for month of Nov - Dec). They said I am auto tagging session to my account to increase commission. I think the problem is I used iframe on some webpage and I don't aware it will cause great problem.

I contacted Amazon telling them I have fixed the problem and they can check but they just response -

I have reviewed your account and confirmed that the decision to close your Associates account is final, and you are no longer eligible to participate in the Associates Program. Any other accounts you may have or may open in the future will be closed and advertising fees withheld without notification.

Because this decision is final, further requests to review your account for reinstatement will not receive a response.

Best regards,

Gary - Associates Account Specialist



What can I do now? Any help please?
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by felix127 View Post

    Amazon suddenly shut down my account without notice and don't pay me over $3000 commission (i.e. for month of Nov - Dec). They said I am auto tagging session to my account to increase commission. I think the problem is I used iframe on some webpage and I don't aware it will cause great problem.

    I contacted Amazon telling them I have fixed the problem and they can check but they just response -

    I have reviewed your account and confirmed that the decision to close your Associates account is final, and you are no longer eligible to participate in the Associates Program. Any other accounts you may have or may open in the future will be closed and advertising fees withheld without notification.

    Because this decision is final, further requests to review your account for reinstatement will not receive a response.

    Best regards,

    Gary - Associates Account Specialist



    What can I do now? Any help please?
    It's a lot like when Google closes down your adwords or adsense account. All you can do is move on. If you're into selling physical products, you could check out another affiliate network like Pepperjam. It has a lot of "As Seen On Tv" stuff on there and beyond. It also offers a variety of payment methods and has a low payout threshold.

    Good luck,
    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
    Originally Posted by felix127 View Post

    I think the problem is I used iframe on some webpage and I don't aware it will cause great problem.

    What can I do now? Any help please?
    Sorry man, but iframing is DEFINITELY not allowed, and that is made extensively clear in Amazon's terms and conditions. Clearly you are not going to be able to market on Amazon any more.

    If you want to sell your sites, send me a PM...you can still make some money and turn a negative to a positive.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsbusiness23
    You can also check out Commission Junction offers as well. They sell extremely well and if you had that much in commissions, I'm sure you aren't hurting too much.

    Who knows you could have it back in no time at all! If you are good at selling physical products I bet you could dominate selling digital ones too! So check out clickbank and the other digital product sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
    It sounds like you are out of luck. You have to work pretty hard to piss off Amazon but apparently you managed to do just that. You seem to know how to make money online, just try a different sponsor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
    IFRAMES are a clear no no and you made the money by breaking their terms of service and that means they have the right to shut your account down and void your commissions since they were not legitimately earned.

    It is very clear in their TOS you may not use iframes and this is a great example for a reminder for all Amazon Associates to take the time to READ Amazons TOS because if you break them this is what will happen.

    Kickin it on Amazon

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  • Profile picture of the author Megyn
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    Right. Break terms of service and you're not eligible to get paid. Simple as that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    For anybody else looking to make money with Amazon.com, and you're making a killing real fast... read this:

    http://vorg.ca/1065-Selling-On-Amazon.com-Sucks
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    • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      For anybody else looking to make money with Amazon.com, and you're making a killing real fast... read this:

      http://vorg.ca/1065-Selling-On-Amazon.com-Sucks
      :rolleyes:

      The link you posted is a generic, pointless 2 paragraph complaint by a retailer on Amazon, followed by several thousands comments of people flaming, trolling, and insulting each other.

      It has NOTHING to do with the associate's program, and therefore nothing to do with this thread at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      For anybody else looking to make money with Amazon.com, and you're making a killing real fast... read this:

      http://vorg.ca/1065-Selling-On-Amazon.com-Sucks

      BIT of a misleading link there Randall that is reffering to the FBA program where merchants can sell on Amazon and IS NOT the Amazon Associates program.

      Might be wise to slow down before posting irrelevant links the OP broke the TOS and he had his account terminated and there is nothing wrong with that he knew beforehand he could not use iframes but knew there were some quick bucks to be had, HE GOT CAUGHT and punished.

      Your Link has nothing to do with the Amazon Affiliates program

      Kickin it on Amazon

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The site is not connected to the thread topic - but is very odd.
      Do you believe 1 in 5 buyers enters a wrong address for shipment?

      If your company has a reputation that you would like to withhold,
      you should reconsider selling on Amazon!
      Now that's funny. I'm assuming he meant "uphold" - wonder if he does the address labels....I expect those commenting are close friends.


      As for this thread - there's a serious reality check for many marketers in programs like Adsense and Amazon when they find they don't get a second chance to do things right.

      If you sign up for a program that has terms and conditions (and they all do) - READ and understand what you are agreeing to. These programs are willing to pay you - but you must respect their rules.
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  • Profile picture of the author kezel
    if you cant use iFrames, does it mean you cant create amazon stores on Facebook fanpages? From what I know, fanpages are iframes? no?
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    • Profile picture of the author DoubleOhDave
      Originally Posted by kezel View Post

      if you cant use iFrames, does it mean you cant create amazon stores on Facebook fanpages? From what I know, fanpages are iframes? no?
      This is my concern too. Specially since I launched about five fan pages with amazon stuff in them using the software I was sold by a guru from here :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author dsbusiness23
    At least that article was worth a good laugh. Amazon is a pretty good site to sell on considering you can sell pretty much anything on it.

    Sry about your misfortune with the TOS, but this is why I recommend people read them on any website they sell products on. Clickbank, commission junction, Amazon(obviously) and any other site you sell or promote products on.
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  • Profile picture of the author felix127
    Thank you all for your response. I have really no intention to break the TOS but I'm just very confused about their linking method and the problem is now they terminate the account without even a notice. In the Amazon associate central Amazon publishes a lot of advertising code with use of iframe actually!

    I cannot find the term "iframe" in their TOS, I only find a clause related to framing as below -

    22. You will not frame the Amazon Site, or any part of it, within your site. However, displaying a Special Link on your site in accordance with the Operating Agreement will not be considered framing the Amazon Site.

    So have they clearly stated that displaying a link generated from Amazon associate central with iframe is wrong and will result immediately termination? If so, where is the clause?

    Besides, based on their report there are still many purchase come from direct product link, so why they void commission from direct product link as generated from Amazon associate central?
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  • Profile picture of the author williamo
    What's an Iframe?

    Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    Originally Posted by felix127 View Post

    What can I do now? Any help please?
    1. Forget Amazon.

    2. Find someone else and then, READ THE TOS of that site.

    It astounds me the amount of people out there and in this forum, making money off the back of sites and they haven't even read the TOS.

    I can't stress enough how important it is to do this, whether it's EZA, AdWords, Amazon or any site out there.

    The TOS are not just to protect the company, they are to protect you from making silly errors that cost you 3k when you could do with it most. This isn't so much directed at you Felix as to the myriad of other people that don't even think they should read the TOS.

    Sorry this happened but on a positive note, if you can generate 3k in a month from Amazon, you clearly know what you're doing and can do the same on just about any other alternative to Amazon.

    Learn and move on, they don't look like they'll budge on this.
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  • Profile picture of the author damasgate
    I'm really confused as to what iframing actually means now. I thought that it means using an iframe to place say like an Amazon store on one of the webpages on your site. Is that not allowed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by damasgate View Post

      I'm really confused as to what iframing actually means now. I thought that it means using an iframe to place say like an Amazon store on one of the webpages on your site. Is that not allowed?
      Don't take this the wrong way but if you read through this thread and Amazons TOS, it is very clear it isn't allowed.

      So no, it's not allowed and as you can see they have a habit of closing the accounts of those that do.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jokyv
        why dont you register a business and then apply again to amazon ?
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        • Profile picture of the author DoubleOhDave
          Sorry, I haven't enough posts to be able to reply to the PM I received re: this topic, but I think I can do so here: I can't remember the name of the guru, at the time I was going hell for leather through IM materials I bought as WSOs or got as free opt-ins, so shiny object syndrome led me to the next big thing very quickly. Plus I suspected something dodgy about the setup when I couldn't change the country or subscription (can't remember the tm, but something like that) and wondered was an affiliate fee being sent for any sales I and anyone else using the system might generate. Thankfully I was too starry eyed at the time to concentrate on marketing it so the pages didn't get many fans. I am going to go delete them now!
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        • Profile picture of the author phans
          Originally Posted by Jokyv View Post

          why dont you register a business and then apply again to amazon ?
          yeah till you are already making good money with amazon this would be well worth it!
          just remove anything that is violating there TOS and register a LLC
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          • Profile picture of the author WikiWarrior
            How about signing up to VigLink. That way you can still promote Amazon products. Just don't use iframes and all things being equal you should be good.
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          • Profile picture of the author billyme
            Unfortunately, as others have pointed out, these situations are not reversible. I know that's not the response you wanted to see, but there will be a light at the end of the tunnel. Clearly, you've already displayed that you know how to make money online. You'll find somewhere else to apply your talents.

            P.S. If you take a look around, there are other physical merchants that have affiliate programs.
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  • Profile picture of the author damasgate
    There seems that there was another person with this problem on this WF thread

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ble-ideas.html

    This is the framing policy I think people here are talking about:
    "You will not frame the Amazon Site, or any part of it, within your site. However, displaying a Special Link on your site in accordance with the Operating Agreement will not be considered framing the Amazon Site."

    So I think there's a differences between framing and iframing (like using an aStore on your webpage) as far as I can understand.

    The one that I thought made sense to me was this explanation (also found on the WF thread I mentioned)

    "Framing usually means that someone looks at your site and sees Amazon's site, too, basically as if Amazon is embedded in your site. It can be done with iframes in HTML.
    It used to be pretty common to see sites framing each other because site owners didn't want people leaving their sites while visiting others. I seem to recall Ask Jeeves used to frame other sites, for instance. But framing is considered bad behavior because it can confuse people about what site they're on. Did someone set up your site for you? If so, ask them about how to remove any frames."
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  • Profile picture of the author latrice17
    I use a paid plugin that pulls product information customer reviews from Amazon.

    Is this considered "iframing" Amazon?
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    • Profile picture of the author zaco
      Originally Posted by latrice17 View Post

      I use a paid plugin that pulls product information customer reviews from Amazon.

      Is this considered "iframing" Amazon?

      I am not sure how they consider it, I posted to let you know that you might not be using the best practice in writing reviews, please do not take this in a negative way, I visited one site in your signature and I noticed that you are listing Amazon reviews as they are, this might cause an issue.. it is a myth but why are you risking that?

      You are posting Amazon reviews which might be considered duplicate content since Google knows about it.. alot of users will tell you that is not duplicate content but as I said why risk it..
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      • Profile picture of the author troybh
        Seriously for the idiots out there like me can someone show me an iframe site. As far as I am concerned if your smart enough to do this Iframe thing then you probably smart enough to make money another way. Maybe since the op is already banned he can show us the link to his site with the iframe.
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        • Profile picture of the author zaco
          Originally Posted by troybh View Post

          Seriously for the idiots out there like me can someone show me an iframe site. As far as I am concerned if your smart enough to do this Iframe thing then you probably smart enough to make money another way. Maybe since the op is already banned he can show us the link to his site with the iframe.
          I don't think the op is banned, check this out I think this is an iframe..basically the users do not leave your website, Amazon website will be shown inside your website

          Example HTML IFRAME Embed - Wetpaint Central
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  • Profile picture of the author focused
    That's a pretty harsh response from Amazon, and they
    make it abundantly clear that it's a final decision.
    So you should move on. You should probably look
    in to Commission Junction and what they have to offer you.
    From your forfeited commission amount, you are adept at
    Amazon sales, so you should be able to readily adjust and
    apply your methods elsewhere. Remember to read their TOS.
    You don't want another repeat.
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  • Profile picture of the author Riki Oh
    OP: Look in to filing an LLC. If applicable, it's worth checking in to. You can do this for less than $200. You can schedule an appointment with a local attorney, walk in, and be out in less than an hour - with your LLC filed and ready to go. I can't promise that this will work for your situation, but again, it's worth looking in to. If you go this route, please do your research first and remove those iframes!

    If not, simply look for a merchant that carries the products that you are promoting and register with their affiliate program. Most major merchants have an affiliate program and their commissions and cookies are often times better than Amazon anyway. Your conversions may take a hit, but it's better than the alternatives.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I love the thread title "without notice", should they tell you that they're going to close it before closing it?

    They don't take breaking their TOS lightly so they're not going to warn you to fix what you did.

    If you iframed you were trying something, cookie stuffing? I don't know but odds are you knew what you were doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author edynas
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      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      I love the thread title "without notice", should they tell you that they're going to close it before closing it?

      They don't take breaking their TOS lightly so they're not going to warn you to fix what you did.

      If you iframed you were trying something, cookie stuffing? I don't know but odds are you knew what you were doing.
      Yeah my thoughts exactly


      Originally Posted by timpears

      Next time, follow the rules and do do stupid crap like iframes, which are obviously against the TOS. Did you read them? Probably not, but that doesn't excuse you. I thought everyone knew iframes were not allowed. I don't know why, but most affiliate programs disallow them.
      iFrames are not always against the TOS of Amazon and sometimes even required. So please get your facts straight.

      The OP most likely did some cookiestuffing or the reason of closing the account is something different as he said it might be because of iFrames.

      Edwin
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      • Profile picture of the author taffie
        This is just the problem with things we do not have much control over, which is why your own product, own website always wins, the rest of it with their T&C's can be a nightmare! $3000 in commisions hurts:-(
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  • Profile picture of the author MM80
    Always the same answer from them I got my account closed too without warning or something else! I tried to speak to them but got the exact same answer as you!
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  • Profile picture of the author hidden ninja
    Well, Iframe is not allowed, I did once and after a month they caught me. So you know what happened lost few K lol
    just move on and forget about this.
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    • Profile picture of the author edwardlobo
      Its not the end of the world
      There are many options
      1) Apply to amazon again on behalf of someone not into IM like your mother
      2) Start a company - In uk this can be started for 10 gbp and register as a company and you dont have to be a resident
      3) Team up with someone and share the profit - be clear and explain to them what went wrong and that you would like to team up resources and share profits.

      IT MIGHT be a good thing for you - sometimes the way you react to bad things makes them the best things that happen to you. For instance if you opt for 3 you can find someone who knows amazon and can fill in areas where you are weak. With both of you supporting each other you may go on to earning more than what you are doing now.
      Option 2 might teach you about tax efficient structures
      Option 1 might bring you closer to someone

      There is always a good side and most of us find out after a little bit of struggle and after getting over the initial frustration and I am sure you will too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Luis
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    Sorry for what happened. There are still plenty of opportunities to make money online, so I suggest you concentrate on other affiliate programs such as Commission Junction, Clickbank or ShareASale. It's good to diversify and not put all your eggs in one basket.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Disclaimer: This is not intended to kick the OP while he's down.

      This thread should be required reading before anyone casually advises someone that "it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission."

      Many times, there is no forgiveness. Only consequences.

      As for the LLC idea, best to have someone else's name, address and EIN as the principle. If you have your own name, they'll simply (and rightfully) assume that you are trying to circumvent the ban.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    I am no expert on Amazon Associates program, but why don't you create an entity of some sort and get a PO box or alternate address and open up a new account in the name of that entity?

    I would recommend that you change the web sites a bit so it isn't so blatant. There is always a way to get around stuff like this. Are you married?

    Next time, follow the rules and do do stupid crap like iframes, which are obviously against the TOS. Did you read them? Probably not, but that doesn't excuse you. I thought everyone knew iframes were not allowed. I don't know why, but most affiliate programs disallow them.
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  • Profile picture of the author steven Clayden
    Dont most of the Amazon plugins generate iframes when importing product pages?
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  • Profile picture of the author edynas
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    Please read the policy of Amazon before shouting something

    "You will not frame the Amazon Site, or any part of it, within your site. However, displaying a Special Link on your site in accordance with the Operating Agreement will not be considered framing the Amazon Site."

    However, displaying a Special Link on your site in accordance with the Operating Agreement will not be considered framing the Amazon Site


    There are links provided by Amazon themself that require iframes.
    Reviews are one of them. When you use the webservices (API) yu get from Amazon an iframe url that you need to place in an iframe which displays the reviews. The reason is that they don't want their reviews actually on your site.
    See this Motivating Customers to Buy - Product Advertising API

    So please don't tell others that an iframe is a def Nono without knowing the facts.

    If you frame amazon site with the purpose to place a cookie etc which is known as cookiestuffing then you know you are on the darkside and obviously you don't do what is allowed by Amazon.

    I hope this will clear up some confussion

    Edwin
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  • Your problem is a lesson for me since I am still newbie on amazon. This is a high value lesson.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    this totally sucks, but again is a reminder taht you should have several sources of internet income.

    I had something happen like this to me back in 2005, and since then I have a plan b, and a plan c, and d, e, f.

    Even if paypal goes down or clickbank I will be fine. Same with your business, you should not rely on one form of income.

    Learn from the experience and move on. Next time make sure you have a plan b, and c and possibly a d. I know where you are right now, and might be hurting, but just know there is a way around this. ALl the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author Infomaster
      It doesn't work the other way, though. I notified Amazon of numerous violators of their TOS who used Kindle on the left side of a top level domain name, i.e. to the left of the .com, .net, .org etc. They thanked me by auto reply or real reply each time. But when I checked weeks later, some of those sites were still up and still using Amazon Associate links. Either Amazon does not care about those particular TOS or, as I suspect, they let the Kindle Fire and Touch release and Christmas season run its course, getting all that referred traffic rather than having it shut down, with a plan to afterward ban and keep commissions, taking advantage of not only those in violation but those of use who abide by the TOS and have less desirable domain names, and who by the way earn less as a result of the violations. Shame on them for not enforcing that TOS so that there would be an equal playing field for those of us who do our best to meet the TOS. I am of a mind to boycott Amazon as far as sending them any business. I have changed gears and am no longer spending my time trying to get Kindle traffic. I am also not going to branch out to other product lines for them - I'll send traffic to other places. Next! So, to move on from dissing Amazon, to help you, use my experience as proof that you should do as some others have suggested - send traffic to others and earn from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author DigitalBusker
    Amazon's behaviour is just immature and "witholding money" sounds like theft, I don't care what their own rules say,
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    • Profile picture of the author bengirwb
      The major problem in net marketing is that we operate under Terms of Service (TOS) and not under negotiated contracts.

      For example, when is the money you've earned, "your" money?

      Commissions should be "held in trust" until paid out. If the business relationship ends, then the funds (your money) should be released to you.

      So you violated the TOS, which Amazon contends makes your commissions illegally earned, and therefore not payable.

      Does this mean Amazon will refund to the buyer the sale that was made illegally?

      I don't think so.

      As individuals, without contracts putting commissions in trust funds, we are powerless. But I don't see us creating an association that would have the power to negotiate this issue.
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      • Profile picture of the author SunilTanna
        Originally Posted by bengirwb View Post

        The major problem in net marketing is that we operate under Terms of Service (TOS) and not under negotiated contracts.

        For example, when is the money you've earned, "your" money?

        Commissions should be "held in trust" until paid out. If the business relationship ends, then the funds (your money) should be released to you.

        So you violated the TOS, which Amazon contends makes your commissions illegally earned, and therefore not payable.

        Does this mean Amazon will refund to the buyer the sale that was made illegally?

        I don't think so.

        As individuals, without contracts putting commissions in trust funds, we are powerless. But I don't see us creating an association that would have the power to negotiate this issue.
        The point about cookie stuffing is amazon would contend the commissions were not the affiliate's in the first place. That is to say that cookie stuffing meant the affiliate was improperly getting credited for sales that weren't really his (the sales belonged to amazon or other affiliates).

        It's a bit like when somebody clicks on a cost-per-click ad on their own website a million times. The account balance might show lots of money, at least for a time, but the advertiser is going to say that money was never legitimately earned in the first place.
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    • Profile picture of the author bengirwb
      this was a duplicate post
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  • Profile picture of the author carrot
    This relates to cookie stuffing. Thats why the account was closed.

    Using amazons built in iFrames wont drop a cookie.
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  • Profile picture of the author rileyb
    This is not good, you may want to look into Shopzilla..
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  • Profile picture of the author WPBounce
    Try Commission Junction, LinkShare or ShareaSale. You won't see conversion rates as high as Amazon's but some merchants pay commission percentage much higher.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    I really do feel for you. But atleast this will teach you a lesson.

    When dealing with these huge companies you have to tred so carefully, they are literally so big they can do whatever they want and you can't do anything about it.

    Atleast you have proved to yourself that you can make $3000, from here just move somewhere else and make another $3000, then another and another and then some more. You get my picture!
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  • Profile picture of the author derek4real
    I also just got my amazon account closed just a few days ago for the same exact reason and I had no idea what "auto tagging sessions" meant. I tried emailing them asking for an explanation, but of course the email they sent was no reply.

    On my sites I was using a combination of 2 amazon plugins, one called phpzon, and another that I got off a WSO here called CTR Maximizer.

    I'm seeing people talk about iframing people the culprit. I had no idea that using these plugins can get your account closed. Wish I woulda known.

    But then again....I guess I should've read the TOS as well...sorry just kinda disheartening.
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  • Profile picture of the author EllesBelles
    I just wanted to point out, for those stating that anyone can start a business in the UK for £10 - there are legal responsibilities that you would need to look into, and plenty of fines if you get things wrong. If you are going down that route, make sure you fully understand it, or get a solicitor first.

    These Amazon threads all tend to be the same - someone bought a WSO, didn't realize they were doing anything wrong. I appreciate that not everyone will read the TOCs of every service they use - but if you are using someone else's system, you should at least glance through them to check the new system won't cause problems.

    No one who is banned comes here and says; "I was blatantly breaking the rules but I want my account back." It's likely that no one says that to Amazon, either - so they are going to receive hundreds of "I didn't know, sorry, please give me my account back" messages. It probably comes down to that either you can't keep to the rules, in which case they don't want you, or you don't even know the rules, in which case they don't want you either.

    You have two real options. Look into starting a business or registering an Amazon account in someone else's name, being very careful not to link the accounts at all, and reading the TOCs in full this time; or using a different service and reading their TOCs instead.

    Makes you wonder how Amazon WSOs ever sell!
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by EllesBelles View Post

      I just wanted to point out, for those stating that anyone can start a business in the UK for £10 - there are legal responsibilities that you would need to look into, and plenty of fines if you get things wrong. If you are going down that route, make sure you fully understand it, or get a solicitor first.

      These Amazon threads all tend to be the same - someone bought a WSO, didn't realize they were doing anything wrong. I appreciate that not everyone will read the TOCs of every service they use - but if you are using someone else's system, you should at least glance through them to check the new system won't cause problems.

      No one who is banned comes here and says; "I was blatantly breaking the rules but I want my account back." It's likely that no one says that to Amazon, either - so they are going to receive hundreds of "I didn't know, sorry, please give me my account back" messages. It probably comes down to that either you can't keep to the rules, in which case they don't want you, or you don't even know the rules, in which case they don't want you either.

      You have two real options. Look into starting a business or registering an Amazon account in someone else's name, being very careful not to link the accounts at all, and reading the TOCs in full this time; or using a different service and reading their TOCs instead.

      Makes you wonder how Amazon WSOs ever sell!
      Very well stated! Folks need to be accountable for their own business.
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  • Profile picture of the author LorenaMI
    I am sorry, I am new on this and I would like to know what is iframe. I would not like to make the same mistake with my website. if you have a minute to answer please I would really appreciate it.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by LorenaMI View Post

      I am sorry, I am new on this and I would like to know what is iframe. I would not like to make the same mistake with my website. if you have a minute to answer please I would really appreciate it.
      An iframe is a bit of HTML markup code that allows you to embed an outside web page in the one containing the iframe. Often, it's used to set affiliate cookies without the reader's knowledge. Doing so puts it in violation of Amazon's Associate agreement.

      You can read more here if you are interested:

      HTML element - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh Dixon
    Sorry to hear this and I feel your pain.

    But thanks for sharing so that others don't make the same mistake of using iFrames on Amazon - especially as there are quite a few plugins that do this nowadays.
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  • Profile picture of the author misshang
    I plan to use Jewel Clone by Coolice, is this something violating Amazon's TOS?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    thanks i feel your pain atleast it gives a warning to amazon affiliates to not do the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtrees
    Now this is *completely* theoretical. I certainly would never do this.

    However what you could do is get an ein (you can get one as a sole proprietor, google it it's instant and free), set up a dba name in a random name for probably less than $100 in your county, open a business bank account able to receive checks and wires in that dba name, use google voice for a new phone number and open a po box or use a friends address, get a new website on a new hosting account, and open and access a new amazon account from a different computer on a different internet connection with this new information.

    I'm assuming you were making money in a legit way and the iframe was something random.

    But don't screw up your new account because you only get one ein.
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  • Profile picture of the author daavid3
    You can try emailing Mr. Bezos and beg him to help you. I know this sounds retarded but he has actually helped me before when I contacted his offices
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