Anyone know if I can use this theme song when creating a video for public use?

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Does anyone know if I can use the theme from the sitcom Cheers? I don't want to use the entire song, just a clip or so.

Also, I'd like to know if it is available as royalty free music somewhere. If so, I am willing to pay $20 to someone if they can get a legal copy of the music either with vocals, or without, and send it to me.

Thanks ...


Mary
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  • You will have to buy it or get written permission from the owner to use it. Sorry

    Virgil
  • I have an mp3 of someone playing the theme on a keyboard dont know if that is any use to you
  • Hi Mary,

    To legally use it you will need to obtain a license from the Hollywood Studio that owns it.

    This should help you hunt down the answer to whether you can and where to obtain a license:

    The artists site:

    Gary Portnoy.com

    Theme from Cheers (Where Everybody Knows Your Name) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The license could run you hundreds to thousands of dollars depending on the use and terms.

    They may also refuse to let you use it.

    The original Song was called "people like us."

    The Cheers theme song "Where everybody knows your name" was a rewrite specifically for Cheers and is likely owned by the studios that produced the hit show.
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  • Thanks a lot guys for the valuable information. I appreciate it.

    Hey Josh,

    I assume I will run into asimilar problem with a license to use the original tune "people like us" correct? Or would that be a different case?

    I guess now's as good a time to learn about music licenses lol.


    Hey Bladerunner,

    I'm not sure something like this is legal to use without a license even if someone else is playing the tune. It's the rights to the tune itself I believe, and I would have to aquire a license for use of it.

    I'll get back to you though after I do some heavy duty reading.

    That's unless of course Josh, you or someone else can answer the question without me having to do that.

    Thanks again everyone ...


    Mary
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    • Hi Mary

      If it was me I would approach the composer and just ask for permission.

      I have 2 songs "out there" and when I have been asked for permission I always say "Yes" as long as I am credited with the source.

      Kenj
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    • Last time I registered a cover song for selling it on an internet site, I went to Harry Fox Agency. A couple years ago it cost $28 for a one year license to sell up to 150 copies. Cheaper if you do more than one song at a time, as there is a substantial processing fee that is included, part of the $28, for each time you do this. This is giving people download access after purchase. Don't know the rule on streaming in an audio or video, I think that's stiil a grey area.

      HFA's Songfile &reg

      The song license is listed as available there, if you had someone record a cover of it for you:

      WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME
      Writer(s): GARY PORTNOY, JUDY HART
      HFA Song Code: W48334

      Songfile System
  • It's no different than copying people's content. You have to obtain permission first.

    Its a copyright issue.

    I'd contact the artist directly, let them know how you want to use the works, and ask how you might obtain a license for those purposes.

    They can probably point you in the right direction or at least give you a quick answer.
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    • Hey Josh,

      Thanks, that's what I ended up doing after reading that resource you pointed me to. Thanks for the help.


      Kenj, bluet and Frank,

      I appreciate the advise and comments each of you made. You all gave valid points. As mentioned above, I contacted Gary Portnoy, but I will also check into the license at Sony.

      Frank, I got the synchronization form, and yes it is for videos as well.


      mpeters7 and Reese,

      Although I appreciate the sentiment, I'd rather make sure I am using the music legally, especially when a profit may be directly tied to using the video with the song on it.

      I've heard things can get mighty sticky with this kind of thing. It seems to me if you are going to change the tune, you must change it substantially. Otherwise is like Josh pointed out - It's like cpying someone's content. I'm not sure where that line is, and I'd rather pay the fee instead of finding out the hard way.

      All the best ...


      Mary
  • Well there are alot of bands that do covers. I think as long as your are not profiting from it.
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    • Hi Mary

      The composer of "Where Everybody Knows Your Name" is Gary Portnoy.

      However, as with most professional composers, the rights to his material will be administered by a Publishing Company, in this case it's Sony/ATV Music Publishing :

      They'd be the people who would grant a license to use the track.

      This would apply regardless of whether it was the original song or a cover version being used.

      HTH


      Frank
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  • Probably smart to play it safe. I'd be curious to hear what the artist and Sony say, though. I've heard a license like that can run into the 10s and 100s of thousands. Think what Dr. Pepper paid to use it in that commercial.
  • Best thing for you to do - since you cannot use the song without paying high licensing fees, if you can get a license for it at all - is to create the song yourself. If you're musically inclined and have a midi keyboard, that's easy. Failing that, the cheapest way would be to contact a local recording studio that has musical production capabilities and have them recreate the song. You can arrange with them for a buy out license. Shouldn't be terribly expensive - maybe a couple of hundred bucks.
  • Hey guys,

    I appreciate the responses, but already found a work around.

    Thanks!
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