Are There Many Clients Who Pay $50/Article?

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Hello Warriors,
I know that there are many writers on here who write quality content for clients and have experience in this regard.

I am a Nigerian and a few minutes back, I got talking with a fellow Nigerian. I told her that I have a friend( another Nigerian) who could help her with her article writing needs. The next thing she would ask is that; does the guy have any online presence? I told her the person I am referring to her wrote some of the articles used by Abayomi Aje who sold websites for profit but she refused to accept my words based on the fact that he probably wouldn't be a good writer because he has no online presence.

She later said that there is another Nigerian who earn more $5000 per month from article writing !!! She claimed that the guy write articles for $50/article. I went to the said BIG money earner's blog and all I could see is just words stating that the he makes that kind of money BUT no screenshot to back up that claim.

Now, I ask, do people single handedly make $5000 per month from article writing and do you easily get client who will pay $50/ article?

While this lady does not want to believe that it was all made up to deceive people, I strongly believe that he does not make that much, except I missing something.

Another question is, not having a blog or website make one an incompetent writer?
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Another question is, not having a blog or website make one an incompetent writer?
    Not having a site has no bearing on a writer's competency. A site is a home base where your profile is shown but many people write with no website.
    I do have a site and am a writer and believe that most writers should have a site but it's not obligatory by any means.
    Writing articles for $50 each isn't ridiculous. It depends on the writer, the topic, the length, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author itrend
      This days you can easily find good writers for less than 10 bucks.
      So I think if would be very hard to get someone paying you $50/article.
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      • Profile picture of the author jideofor
        Originally Posted by itrend View Post

        This days you can easily find good writers for less than 10 bucks.
        So I think if would be very hard to get someone paying you $50/article.

        That's is the point I was trying to make clear. It could have been fair if he had said $20
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      • Profile picture of the author Torreylee
        Originally Posted by itrend View Post

        This days you can easily find good writers for less than 10 bucks.
        So I think if would be very hard to get someone paying you $50/article.
        It depends on who you deem as "good writers", there are plenty writers that get rave reviews that I would never place there content unless it was going on a spam blog.

        I know a couple writers that do make over $50 for 1000 words articles, but they work for a limited number of customers and usually aren't marketing to the public much.

        True QUALITY content is priceless, and that goes FAAAAR beyond Keyword density and zero typos or grammar errors. TRUE content writers will learn their customers desires and write from a certain perspective that fits the website and is aimed at increasing conversions.

        There are writers that will write content that is witty or sarcastic or authoritive-toned work like something you read in the New York Times.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
          Finding clients who will willingly pay $50 and more per article is far easier than most people realize.

          Those who grovel to get $5 an article never seem to stand back long enough to see the wood for the trees. They dismiss that kind of payment as being "impossible," so for them it is.

          I once scrambled around to get $5 an article too. Then one day I raised my charges to $25 an article minimum, figuring I had nothing to lose. I found plenty of clients immediately and I never looked back.

          These days I still write for $25 an article sometimes, depending on the situation, but I also get paid close to $200 an article at least several times a month, and other price points in between.

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      • Profile picture of the author paul_1
        Originally Posted by itrend View Post

        This days you can easily find good writers for less than 10 bucks.
        So I think if would be very hard to get someone paying you $50/article.
        I agree!!! It depends on your client as well - if he/she is willing to pay that much. But then again, it's kinda rare to find one who'll agree to pay that much.
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        • Profile picture of the author moosag
          I think most what I would have said has pretty much been covered. But to answer your question. Yes you can end up paying even more than $50 an article.

          Niche dependent of course. Generally IM'ers think articles just magically appear with a few hundred keystrokes on the keyboard. Well written, well researched, on topic, SEO friendly and most importantly valuable and original articles can and do cost that much and more.

          It all depends on the individual and what type of article, who is the target market (google bots for seo purposes, actual readers, etc..) and most importantly what value are you trying to deliver with your article. You value is either for your sites SEO purposes, lead generation, introductory info purposes or full blown technical details on a given subject. As you can see the scale at which your article is trying to target a given market so to does that scale in price go up as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
          Originally Posted by paul_1 View Post

          Originally Posted by itrend View Post

          This days you can easily find good writers for less than 10 bucks.
          So I think if would be very hard to get someone paying you $50/article.
          I agree!!! It depends on your client as well - if he/she is willing to pay that much. But then again, it's kinda rare to find one who'll agree to pay that much.
          You are living a blinkered life, and I am obviously fighting a losing battle.

          It is very common for good article writers to be paid $50 - or even a LOT more - per article.

          The sky in their universe is still blue, you will be delighted to hear. Open your eyes and see the world for what it is. There really is life beyond the $5-per-article mindset!

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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
            I agree with Martin and John. Just because there are many on the warrior forum that wouldn't dream of paying more than $5 an article for keyword rich articles. It doesn't mean there aren't thousands of potential 'real world' clients (particularly offline) out there that won't pay top money for quality articles. In fact I work with a top copywriter and he regularly gets superb client feedback after writing articles for $1000-$1500 a go. Infact he's just refered a client that I will be working with long term to provide 50-100 articles a month at $150 a go!
            Remember in life there are people with money that will always pay top dollar for quality goods or services.

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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Mensah
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      Not having a site has no bearing on a writer's competency. A site is a home base where your profile is shown but many people write with no website.
      I do have a site and am a writer and believe that most writers should have a site but it's not obligatory by any means.
      Writing articles for $50 each isn't ridiculous. It depends on the writer, the topic, the length, etc.
      Depends on the site that you are selling them on as well. I know associates content used to pay really high for good quality content and some other websites paid around that $50 mark per quality article written so it is possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidESmith
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    Depends on the length of the article. Most writers get paid by the word count so it is possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Webpromotion
    I personally have paid as low as $5 an article
    and as high as $100 an article.

    The $5 article is just filler.
    The $100 is a US Magazine quality publication article....

    To be honest, I felt I got better value from the $100 article.
    It was just a pleasure to read.
    The cheaper article felt like homework.... well written but still a drag to read.


    Sorry to say this but not one person from a third world country has
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Webpromotion View Post

      I personally have paid as low as $5 an article
      and as high as $100 an article.

      The $5 article is just filler.
      The $100 is a US Magazine quality publication article....

      To be honest, I felt I got better value from the $100 article.
      It was just a pleasure to read.
      The cheaper article felt like homework.... well written but still a drag to read.


      Sorry to say this but not one person from a third world country has
      I have paid $80 for an artilce back in 2008. I was laughed at and ridiculed by my friend. But little did he realise that years later and in the height of article marketing spamming, that same article bought in much business, thousands of subscribers, and many sales. If you want to know a little secret I would have paid $300 - $400 for that same article, even at that price it still would have been a bargain.

      Things are changing and shifting now in the article landscape.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

    do you easily get client who will pay $50/ article?
    To me, $50 per article is a kind of strange, in-between amount, to be honest.

    It's too much for someone who wants keyword-filled text to post to article directories ($15/$20 or so is more common, for a literate writer to produce that sort of article), but it's not enough for syndication articles (people can make huge amounts of money from those, and happily pay more like $100 - $200 each to the writers who can produce them).

    Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

    Another question is, not having a blog or website make one an incompetent writer?
    In principle, it "takes some explaining", I think. It's certainly putting yourself at a huge disadvantage, as a writer, not having a website.

    The "single key concept" to appreciate, in this regard, I think, is that one sees writers of $5/$10 articles constantly advertising for clients because their clients want the articles for article directory marketing, not for article marketing (syndication). These are people whose own businesses tend not to survive, so from the writer's perspective they're not a great prospect for continuing work, and they need to be replaced as clients all the time. Hence the constant advertising. The writers selling $100/$200 articles, in contrast, are not advertising much at all, not because there aren't any of them, but because they retain their clients, who want a different product altogether and typically know how to use it, and "come back for more". So those writers are often fully booked, without the need for advertising their services all the time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Webpromotion
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      The "single key concept" to appreciate, in this regard, I think, is that one sees writers of $5/$10 articles constantly advertising for clients because their clients want the articles for article directory marketing, not for article marketing (syndication). These are people whose own businesses tend not to survive, so from the writer's perspective they're not a great prospect for continuing work, and they need to be replaced as clients all the time. Hence the constant advertising. The writers selling $100/$200 articles, in contrast, are not advertising much at all, not because there aren't any of them, but because they retain their clients, who want a different product altogether and typically know how to use it, and "come back for more". So those writers are often fully booked, without the need for advertising their services all the time.

      You hit it right on the mark.
      And they have long waiting lists.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Sahu
    Personally, I pay $3 to $5 for a 400-word article. Getting $50 for a single article seems unrealistic.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    $3-$5 for an article is insulting but then again, it depends on where the writer is from.
    Money has a different value in the third world.
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  • Profile picture of the author jideofor
    Thanks , Alexa. I was actually expecting you to comment on this one. Anyways, I will just leave at that, but not really accept it as true that he really makes that much of a money.
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  • Profile picture of the author jideofor
    How I Made 5000 Dollars Online in One Month by Writing for Others it seems that he is not an all round writer but only in one niche-- Guest blogging!
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  • In my 7 years of full-time freelance writers, I have found a couple of clients who will pay $50.00 + for articles. These high payers are hard to find, but that doesn't mean they do not exist. There are many freelance writers out there - many of them are willing to write for under $10.00.
    Do people make $5,000 a month from article writing? I make close to that much each month with article writing, but that's not with $50.00 clients and it takes a lot of work.
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    • Profile picture of the author jideofor
      Originally Posted by MelanieFitzpatrick View Post

      In my 7 years of full-time freelance writers, I have found a couple of clients who will pay $50.00 + for articles. These high payers are hard to find, but that doesn't mean they do not exist. There are many freelance writers out there - many of them are willing to write for under $10.00.
      Do people make $5,000 a month from article writing? I make close to that much each month with article writing, but that's not with $50.00 clients and it takes a lot of work.
      That's right. It takes a lot of work and not really the $50/article client, right? But this guy makes it seem like it is VERY easy. I know when people just want people to buy their info-products. This is the kind of trait that they exibit. My question is, why not show people the screen shots?
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      • It's not "very easy," I wouldn't even say it is "easy." It's not something you can just snap your fingers and do - it takes time. While I do make close to 5k in a month, I barely have any time for myself you know.

        On the "BIG money earner's blog," they should definitely have screenshots (if it's true) - it would motivate people!
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        • Profile picture of the author jideofor
          Originally Posted by MelanieFitzpatrick View Post

          It's not "very easy," I wouldn't even say it is "easy." It's not something you can just snap your fingers and do - it takes time. While I do make close to 5k in a month, I barely have any time for myself you know.
          On the "BIG money earner's blog," They should definitely have screenshots (if it's true) - it would motivate people!

          And that was the point I was trying to make clear to the lady but she feels the guy is better than the one I referred to her. Thank you all for your insightfull input.
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  • Profile picture of the author LyndaL66
    I have a few $50 an article clients, but I have a degree as a nurse and write exclusively in the medical niche. So, I am not writing just any 'ole stuff. However, most of my clients fall in the $25 to $30 range. I can earn that type of money per month, but it DOES take a lot of work. I am interested in writing syndication articles, though. Where does one sign up for that kind of work?

    And about the website, I would be sunk without mine. I send people there everyday, and it pays for itself because my portfolio is readily visible. I would say a writer is basically invisible without one nowadays. Most editors/ clients are used to having their curiousity about a writer satisfied NOW. They want to see what you can do, and a website can show 'em.

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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Screenshots carry very little weight as they are so easily manipulated. From the copy I have read from the links above, I wouldn't give $5 an article. That could just be me though.
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    • Profile picture of the author jideofor
      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      Screenshots carry very little weight as they are so easily manipulated. From the copy I have read from the links above, I wouldn't give $5 an article. That could just be me though.
      What do you mean exactly and can you explain? I am not so clear about your comment on the bolded part. I agree with you on the manipulation of screenshots.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        At what point did I lose you :-)


        Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

        What do you mean exactly and can you explain? I am not so clear about your comment
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  • Profile picture of the author jideofor
    The bolded part of my post above.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

      The bolded part of my post above.
      He might be referring to the first article on the website in your signature box.

      Maybe...
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  • Profile picture of the author jryan
    There is a market out there for $125.00 an article an up you need to find it and market to it. That is the bottom line.
    They are out there the problem is finding them...

    However do not think per article what you really want is a year contract with a major company or good company to provide content for lets say 12000 a year how does that sound?
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  • Profile picture of the author jideofor
    Well, one thing is that I have never heard of this guy before as far as Nigeria's internet marketing is concerned and the way he arranged his income report is just the way another blogger(a foreigner) did his and I just had believe that he is nothing but an info-marketer.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    $50 is a pretty hefty amount for articles. I've seen people pay as low as $1 per 100 words, although there are a handful of employers who actually care about the quality of the end product and are willing to pay prices as high as $50.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartyjohn
    Yes, $50 per article not a big money for a quality article. But getting such type of clients seems hardy. Off-course without Online presence, it is very hard to get New Client Trust. For a single man $5k/month just from Article Writhing is Hard but not impossible.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by smartyjohn View Post

      For a single man $5k/month just from Article Writhing is Hard but not impossible.
      Are you saying that for a married man, or for a woman, it's easier, then? Or more difficult?
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  • About your first question, there is no relationship of site with incompetent article writing. In fact many start as article writers before they go on to own their own website/s. As long as there are ways of getting clients you are able to do your articles without any bother of having your own website. Payment, on the other hand, depends on individual client. In most cases it goes by count of words in an article.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Short
    Having a blog or site that shows examples of your writing would certainly be a good thing because potential clients can see the quality of your work.

    To address your other point - yes, $5,000 a month is possible if he offers pre-made article packs where he's selling the same articles over and over. Lots of people here on the forum have made a killing offering pre-made packages of content.
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  • I think what he's saying, is for a man alone (I.e no outsourcing), it's pretty difficult to write that much content to break the 5000 dollar mark.

    That being said, I charge 25 dollars for a 500 word article as standard, no matter the niche. If you're a great writer, learn to position yourself correctly, and you'll get the right clients. I charge more than most because I write better than most in my articles; my price reflects that quality.

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  • Profile picture of the author isimrikasharma
    5000 $ a month with 50$ per article make the entire effort of the individual equal to 100 articles a month making it approximately 3.5 article a day.

    If an individual is spending complete day on 3.5 articles then I'm sure he would be writing good content for which being pain 50$ is a very much possible figure.

    So, the answer to your question in my opinion is yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Pretty much all writers that write for big name journals and magazines make more than your average internet writer.

    You have to have the skills and reputation.
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    $50 is too high for an article. This is beside, if I am getting writers who doing it for $5 an article, why would i pay $50

    If you are writing for a professional Press Release, you can get $50 and higher, but you need to have a really good skills of PR and not article writing.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

      ...if I am getting writers who doing it for $5 an article, why would i pay $50
      That would definitely hold true if you were getting the same $5 quality and paying $50 for it.

      Suppose, however - and of course this is just pure fantasy - that $50 could buy you an article that would give you a financial return of say, $500 over time.

      Would that be worth more than 10 $5 articles that would give you a financial return of maybe $50 at best?

      But hey... as everyone keeps saying, why would anyone in their right mind pay $50 for an article when they can get one for $5!

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

      $50 is too high for an article.
      Ok, if you say so. But in that case ...

      Let's have a think about all the regularly returning clients of all the article-writers here who are writing for $100+ per article. (There are many!). Now, what is it, with those clients, do you think? :confused:

      Are they all people who just don't know that you can buy an article for $5?

      Are they all losing money, hand over fist, again and again, and still buying more of those articles that cost at least 20 times the price they could buy them for?

      Or is it just possible that they may know something you don't?

      Puzzling, isn't it? ...
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      • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Or is it just possible that they may know something you don't?

        Puzzling, isn't it? ...
        Alexa's dead on... I'm going to put it into "Friday Afternoon" terms:

        I could pay $5 for a bottle of red jug wine to drink after my long week. But I'd rather spring for the $50 Napa Merlot...

        ...Any guesses as to why???
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        • Profile picture of the author Jim Guererro
          You are correct that there are many writers that write for profit. Some not so profitable as others. You can write articles for other people, be on contract with webmasters, or write articles for yourself and get paid with any of these options.

          To make a substantial amount of money certainly a presence needs to be attained. An online presence to get your name known is probably a good idea in order to insure writing orders to keep coming in. Now to put a monetary figure on how much one could make writing articles can be very subjective.

          $5000 certainly sounds at the higher end of the spectrum, but there are always aberrations to any type of monies earned through a vocation. Possible? yes, maybe. But understand that there are always 2 sides to a story. Without knowing the details of a particular work situation it would be hard to validate this amount. But it is not impossible.

          Would a client pay $50 for an article? Let me turn the tables on you and ask you if you had a product you were selling for $2000, would you pay $50 for a well researched, content laden article that would compel people to investigate further into your product?

          I would venture to say that there are some people that would pay a premium price for a well written article.

          Not having a blog or website is in no way shape or form reflect on the competency of a person much less being a writer. But if this is a long term project, then having the mentioned blog/website goes from optional to mandatory. It goes with the territory to make yourself known to show people who you are and what you have to offer.

          hope this helps,
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        • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
          Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett View Post

          I could pay $5 for a bottle of red jug wine to drink after my long week. But I'd rather spring for the $50 Napa Merlot...
          Here in the part of Spain where I live, $5 will get a very, very good bottle of wine. The cheap stuff starts around 50 cents... but that's another story all together, I guess.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Ok, if you say so. But in that case ...

        Let's have a think about all the regularly returning clients of all the article-writers here who are writing for $100+ per article. (There are many!). Now, what is it, with those clients, do you think? :confused:

        Are they all people who just don't know that you can buy an article for $5?

        Are they all losing money, hand over fist, again and again, and still buying more of those articles that cost at least 20 times the price they could buy them for?

        Or is it just possible that they may know something you don't?

        Puzzling, isn't it? ...
        ha ha I had to smile at this. Alexa on the money yet again!
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    • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
      Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post


      $50 is too high for an article. This is beside, if I am getting writers who doing it for $5 an article, why would i pay $50
      Too high?

      Personally, I know ghostwriters that charge $95, $200 per article.

      Yes, you can get articles for $5, but it's crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author lorrainelim
    It's very possible to get $50/article, but my clients that pay that much are few and far between. I usually charge $20-25/article but I'll take $15 for bulk orders. It's actually very difficult being a writer, sometimes there is no work but there are other times you get hired by large companies that need several hundred articles a month for their campaign.

    That's why I'm trying to make it in niche blogging. But after losing $2000 worth of (outsourcing) trial and error though and several hundreds from buying products, I'm coming to the conclusion that maybe I should stick with what I'm good at! But the promise of IM seems irresistible so I'm still gonna give it several more months.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    For what it's worth, I pay actual doctors and pharmacists $50-75 per 1,000 word articles on the topics they write about for my health site.

    I could pay $15-20 and probably get the same quality and research. What I feel is most valuable about them is that i'm able to display their name, their credentials, and have their faces and google+ profiles show up in the serps alongside my content.
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  • Profile picture of the author adammaxum
    I don't know. I doubt he's making $50 an article. It all depends on the clients he writes for though so it may be possible. From the website itself, I'd tend to not believe his claims as it looks as though his site is trying to sell something/market to his audience.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    I have paid 500 for an article, thousands for sales copy and just as much for a series of autoresponders. Yes some do charge alot of money. The ones I used are the top gurus though. I do not think I would pay someone on odesk or elsewhere 50 bucks unless they did have an online presence but then again, if they charge that much have a online presence then they really have no need to lance out.
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  • Profile picture of the author FreeMeal
    If you are a competent writer, and if you are asking for $50 for an article, there will be plenty of people willing to pay for it. And, they will more likely be a higher quality of client; less likely to whinge for any excuse, ask for refunds, no problems getting payment etc. The same principles have been known in bricks and mortar businesses for centuries.
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    • Profile picture of the author danr62
      Originally Posted by jphilips View Post

      Making $50 per article for a [bold]standard[/bold] 500-700 word article is an absolute fantasy. $10 is the high end and you had better be damned good at what you produce if you expect to get even $10 unless you write on some very technical subject that very few people can produce. It will take about one hour for a good writer to produce that content so if he or she is working a 40 hour week they won't make more than $400. That is the high end because if you are writing content at a high level of competency you will burn out quickly and 5 a day is pushing it for most people.
      There are many writers who make more than that for well written articles. I'm not sure why you bothered to respond when warriors have clearly pointed this out throughout this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Making $50 per article for a standard 500-700 word article is an absolute fantasy. $10 is the high end and you had better be damned good at what you produce if you expect to get even $10 unless you write on some very technical subject that very few people can produce. It will take about one hour for a good writer to produce that content so if he or she is working a 40 hour week they won't make more than $400. That is the high end because if you are writing content at a high level of competency you will burn out quickly and 5 a day is pushing it for most people.
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        • Profile picture of the author j hogan
          When I was article writing I was paid $25 - $30 per article and had some big orders. I've also done articles for $7-10 of a lower quality. It depends how good you are and if you have expertise in topic.

          There is no shortage of businesses who need high quality work and are willing to pay for it. Particularly in the health niche where accuracy and detailed information is required. Thats very different to wriitng a few general, conversational articles to be used for blog posts.
          I have never had a website for my freelance writing.
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      • Profile picture of the author janicej
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        I've seen some companies offering hundreds of dollars on a single article or for small projects of a few articles. The requirements for such work are quite extensive, though and i doubt that anyone without genuine experience in journalism can pull it off in most cases. But it really depends on the actual work that needs to be done
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        • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
          Originally Posted by janicej View Post

          I've seen some companies offering hundreds of dollars on a single article or for small projects of a few articles. The requirements for such work are quite extensive, though and i doubt that anyone without genuine experience in journalism can pull it off in most cases. But it really depends on the actual work that needs to be done
          You don't need journalistic experience to get well-paid for writing online. Most of the time all you have to do is ask for the rate you want. It really can be that simple.

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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by jphilips View Post

      Making $50 per article for a standard 500-700 word article is an absolute fantasy. $10 is the high end and you had better be damned good at what you produce if you expect to get even $10 unless you write on some very technical subject that very few people can produce. It will take about one hour for a good writer to produce that content so if he or she is working a 40 hour week they won't make more than $400. That is the high end because if you are writing content at a high level of competency you will burn out quickly and 5 a day is pushing it for most people.
      You have lived a very sheltered life, haven't you?

      Yes, there is a world where $10 is considered almost a king's ransom for an article, but there is another world too where $10 is considered to be at the very low end of article payment. Yes, really!

      I am amused also at how you set an absolute limit on the earnings potential of online article writers. I know of many who easily exceed your ceiling of $400 a week - and they can do that well within a standard 40 hour week too.

      Why would anyone pay $50 for an article (and I only use that figure as it features in the title of this thread)?

      Because they know how to use such an article to make back many times more what they pay.

      High quality articles that command high prices are not designed to be used as filler to pad out a website. Those who buy these articles may, for example, offer them to a number of authority websites for publication.

      If accepted, and this is a very real possibility, the resultant traffic will almost guarantee a return on investment of many, many times the $50 originally spent.

      However, the price spent on an article that will perform as described is likely to be more than $50, and in excess of $100 at least. A figure of $200 or more is not too unusual either.

      Think about it. If a webmaster knows how to turn a high quality article into $1,000, $2,000, or more, every time, then of course they will be more than willing to pay $50 (or $200) an article. It would be an incredible bargain for them!

      One person in this forum has openly stated, and there is every reason to believe him too, that he makes around $5,000 for every article he uses in his syndication network. Do you think he considers $50 to be an "absolute fantasy" price for an article? Or might he consider it a drop in the ocean for such a profitable return on investment?

      Perhaps you are thinking along the lines of articles for backlinking purposes? Yes, in that case $50 may seem a ridiculously high price to pay.

      High, that is, until you realize that the SEO benefits that can, and usually do result from the way that clever webmasters use the content will outstrip the submit-to-every-article-directory-on-the-planet method every time, and by a very considerable margin too.

      I know... for someone who blindly states, "Making $50 per article for a standard 500-700 word article is an absolute fantasy," this must seem like a Grimm Brothers fairy tale.

      Well, sometimes fairy tales really do come true. All you have to do is open your eyes and look beyond that lump in the middle of your face called your nose. There's a real and very exciting world out there. Yes, really!

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  • Profile picture of the author FreeMeal
    TBH I think IM'er's and webmasters have been spoilt with all these cheap writers willing to humbly work for peanuts (probably paralysed with self-doubt and low self worth like most artists)... in fact I would say 400 words is barely an article in the real world; barely a paragraph. Imagine Vanity Fair or Cosmo paid their writers $5 per 400 words; don't reckon they'd last long.

    I work for newspapers and glossy mags full time (not as a writer), and have done for the last 15 years now, the writers are held in high regard (or at least they should be), and rightly so. A publication's of any sort is nothing without them. Don't let flash advertisers dazzle you with their cash, it'll be your downfall, because they'll be the first out the door when no one turns up to read your snazzy publication - I've seen it happen, people lose their jobs. It's very sad.

    My advice would be, if you think an article could make you a bit of cash, long-term, as a webmaster, invest in a writer and be willing to pay for quality. If you find a good writer who engages with your readers, then keep him/her, and look after them.

    If you just want filler, something to keep Google off your back, or something to spin, then get it off some mug on fiverr.
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  • Profile picture of the author hassan001
    It is possible.... It totally depends on quality, number of words and media source where you want this article to get published.... If its for news paper, magazine or some kind of digest or journal it can be more than 50$ per article.....

    So investigate who he/she is writing for to get this amount...

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  • Profile picture of the author stelweb
    It all depends on who the client is. Find yourself a deep pocketed client and demonstrate your writing skills. That would be a sure ticket to making a killing writing articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by stelweb View Post

      It all depends on who the client is. Find yourself a deep pocketed client and demonstrate your writing skills. That would be a sure ticket to making a killing writing articles.
      yes, prove to me that you can write an article that will bring in $1000 and I will pay you as much as you want. But then again, there are not many article writers out there that can do this, but it is possible.

      Go and read some of the recent threads on article marketing. Lots of meat, potatoes and gravy info there. The article marketing game is changing. Do not get left behind, and whenever you see someone that says "I spin articles" slap the *bleep* out of them for me!! they spoiled it for us.

      I find it insane that people are offering spinning services in here in the WF and around the web still, and people are still buying these services. Waist of money and time. Google wants and craves high quality content so give that to him. Or pay someone that can do that for you without some idiotic spinning software. Those days are over.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        yes, prove to me that you can write an article that will bring in $1000 and I will pay you as much as you want. But then again, there are not many article writers out there that can do this, but it is possible.

        Go and read some of the recent threads on article marketing. Lots of meat, potatoes and gravy info there. The article marketing game is changing. Do not get left behind, and whenever you see someone that says "I spin articles" slap the *bleep* out of them for me!! they spoiled it for us.

        I find it insane that people are offering spinning services in here in the WF and around the web still, and people are still buying these services. Waist of money and time. Google wants and craves high quality content so give that to him. Or pay someone that can do that for you without some idiotic spinning software. Those days are over.
        The onus of proving that an article will "will bring in $1000," or whatever amount, should never be placed on the writer.

        I much prefer to work with clients who know how to use the articles I produce. These clients only need to know from me that I will produce articles to a standard they require. After that, they use their skills to turn that article into money.

        I have never produced an article, then tried to sell it on the basis that it will make the new owner any amount of money. That is not my job.

        If I know what the client intends to do with the article, and good clients usually tell me, then I can tailor the article towards that purpose, so that it is optimized in that respect.

        Making a certain sum of money, or indeed, any money at all, from the article is then the responsibility of the client.

        To be honest, I don't want clients who don't know how to monetize the articles I write for them. They are the ones who will tell me that $50 for an article is too much to pay, but only because they don't know how to profit from such an article.

        I do agree with your comments on spinning, though. Anyone here can feel free to "slap the *bleep* out of them" for me too!

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      • Originally Posted by celente View Post

        yes, prove to me that you can write an article that will bring in $1000 and I will pay you as much as you want. But then again, there are not many article writers out there that can do this, but it is possible.
        An article that makes $1000 a month doesn't do so just because it's a great article. It does so because it is a fantastic article and the person using it has the network or skills to put that fantastic article to use.

        Without the network or skillset to do that, the great content would be useless. Without the great content, the network or skillset would be useless. But together they create a very favorable business transaction that makes perfect sense.

        And there's no room for a $5 article (or a $5 buyer) anywhere in this scenario. Period.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmason
    Not me..said I !! Fivrr [?] and others have done credible jobs for me for a whole lot less. You just need to state upfront that a review of their work is essential before any $$$ are paid.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
    A lot of people here are looking at this from completely the wrong perspective. Article writing isn't limited to 500 word bits of puff that are cranked out to order for a few bucks. It also isn't limited to providing content for websites.

    What you will pay for content for your website has little to do with what real world writers can command once they establish a reputation and a certain degree of writing skill.

    For example, I have a regular contract with a guy who pays me $1200 per article (2-4000 words typically). He is happy to pay because he knows he will get top quality writing and the sum paid fits within his particular business model (not online).

    There is a much bigger world out there for writers who have something to say that just churning out web page fillers for pennies.

    Do you need a website to get those big contracts? No. It may help, but rin my experience the best jobs go by word of mouth.

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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      The short answer is yes. Just for a test (even though I already knew the answer) I opened up the 2012 writer's market book that was sitting on my desk.

      There is a magazine called Arizona Wildlife Views (just happend to be the one that I opened to).

      They pas $450-$800 for articles that are 1,000-2,500 words in length.

      You got the chops to write magazine quality articles? If so, go learn what real article marketing is, and understand why you'd be a fool to sell articles period.

      However, it proves there is a market (and a rather large one) of people that want excellent content for their readers.

      Now, these aren't the kind of articles you can typically whip up in 15 minutes, but hopefully you get the point.
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    • Profile picture of the author jideofor
      Originally Posted by zhuzhuzhu View Post

      I make close to that much each month with article writing, but that's not with $50.00 clients and it takes a lot of work.

      That is the point. I know how my Nigerian brothers operate when it come to IM issues. They deceive one another with also sort of lies. Now looking at it closely, it may be easy for people in the USA, UK or any country that has english as her first language, but in a case like Nigeria, I DOUBT the possibility. Think again,Nigerians do not use paypal because the are not allowed to use it.

      Wow... I never meant to set this thread on fire with debate from all angles but all the same, thanks to everyone that has made this thread a haven for hungry knowledge seekers.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
        Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

        Wow... I never meant to set this thread on fire with debate from all angles but all the same, thanks to everyone that has made this thread a haven for hungry knowledge seekers.
        Posts on the pricing of articles always generates much debate. Thanks for starting this one. I have enjoyed participating in it.

        On one side stands the blinkered $5-an-article-absolutely-definitely-maximum crowd, who don't even know how to monetize their cheap fluff.

        On the other side stands the enlightened crowd, who are either writers with clients who know how to monetize quality articles, or webmasters who know the true worth of a good article, and are prepared to pay whatever it takes to get them.

        I fear it will always be like this.

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        • Profile picture of the author jideofor
          Originally Posted by John Coutts View Post

          Posts on the pricing of articles always generates much debate. Thanks for starting this one. I have enjoyed participating in it.

          On one side stands the blinkered $5-an-article-absolutely-definitely-maximum crowd, who don't even know how to monetize their cheap fluff.

          On the other side stands the enlightened crowd, who are either writers with clients who know how to monetize quality articles, or webmasters who know the true worth of a good article, and are prepared to pay whatever it takes to get them.

          I fear it will always be like this.

          John.

          Thanks, John. As it has been repeatedly said by Alexa Smith in various thread with the "Article Writing" title, I have ,after reading most of her comments and that of other respected members in the field, come to appreciate the TRUE power of articles. My pain is that I don't use paypal and at each time, I always wish that Alexa Smith writes a book on this and I will do anything to buy her book. There was one given freely by Bill Pat which I downloaded in 2010 but unfortunately I lost is when I reformatted my laptop. I am willing to get ebooks on the subject on how to write quality content, SEO rich content that can easily rank well. I mean from the research stage to finish and hold my audience spell bound.

          If there are free resources that are as good as paid, which I can gain a good knowledge of the subject, please kindly drop a link here for me.
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          • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
            Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

            Thanks, John. As it has been repeatedly said by Alexa Smith in various thread with the "Article Writing" title, I have ,after reading most of her comments and that of other respected members in the field, come to appreciate the TRUE power of articles. My pain is that I don't use paypal and at each time, I always wish that Alexa Smith writes a book on this and I will do anything to buy her book. There was one given freely by Bill Pat which I downloaded in 2010 but unfortunately I lost is when I reformatted my laptop. I am willing to get ebooks on the subject on how to write quality content, SEO rich content that can easily rank well. I mean from the research stage to finish and hold my audience spell bound.

            If there are free resources that are as good as paid, which I can gain a good knowledge of the subject, please kindly drop a link here for me.
            I don't know of a good free resource as you describe, but your writing isn't bad. Practice more, copy writers you admire, work towards being better. Anyone can do that. It's what I did, and I left school at 15 without a decent education.

            I agree with you about Alexa writing a book on article syndication/marketing. There are plenty of people who would buy it if she wrote it, myself included.

            However, most, if not all, of the information that would likely be contained in such a book is freely available in this forum in a number of threads. Use the search function and weed them out. Collate the information in a meaningful way for your own use in a text file. It's all out there, and it's free.

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  • Profile picture of the author Absolute Logo
    It probably depends on the length. I know on these forums you can get some pretty low priced articles. Maybe people would buy them that weren't on this forum lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
    I have a friend who owns a really popular blog that's making him over $10K per day. He pays $80-$300 per article and is definitely pleased to pay that amount. I personally don't think there are many people willing to pay ridiculous prices for articles, but customers requiring the highest quality of articles will pay that amount.
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    Jideofor,

    If you use the search function to find Tiff Lee, she has a good free article syndication book in her signature.

    Might be worth a read.
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  • Profile picture of the author jideofor
    I have never used the search interface of this forum. What keyword should I use specifically?
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

      I have never used the search interface of this forum. What keyword should I use specifically?
      I would recommend using the Advanced Search function and using the forum name of the person whose posts you wish to read.

      Alternatively, you could try using something like "article syndication" as a keyword. If you use "article marketing" as a keyword, you are likely to find a lot of drivel about article directory marketing, which is not at all the same thing.

      I hope this helps.

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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    Just click on search then type "tiff lee" and you should see a list of options.

    Look for a thread started by Tiff Lee, then just look at one of her posts in the thread. It is in her signature.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paula Steen
      Originally Posted by fin View Post

      Jideofor,

      If you use the search function to find Tiff Lee, she has a good free article syndication book in her signature.

      Might be worth a read.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeseocool
    If it were an ebook, then $50 would be a good starting price.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by mikeseocool View Post

      If it were an ebook, then $50 would be a good starting price.
      ... and a very, very thin ebook too. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author sam12six
        Originally Posted by John Coutts View Post

        ... and a very, very thin ebook too. :rolleyes:
        I just got a million dollar idea!! I'm going to start marketing epamphlets!


        Originally Posted by Social App Zone View Post

        Is there any examples where we can see what a $20,$50,$100 and $200 article look like?
        The problem here is that the difference between good and great is so subjective that anyone who actually says, "Here's an article I paid $100 for and made a good return from.", opens themselves up to half the people on the forum calling them an idiot (for paying for such a crappy article) or a liar.

        A decent article is coherent, contains some actual information, has minimal mechanical errors and contains no misleading statements.

        A great article is all this plus actually entertaining to read. That's where subjectivity comes in. I hate Tolkien. His prose is too descriptive and I feel that it limits the imagination and thus the impact of his writing. A good buddy of mine loves Tolkien. Why? Because he's so incredibly descriptive that he creates a complete experience and doesn't leave you guessing at details.


        ***Note***

        For those saying jideofor's location can't hurt him. I think the point is not that it's difficult to find work across international lines, but that most of the world views Nigeria as the home of internet fraud and would be cautious (whether they're right to be so or not) sending money to anyone they knew was there.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by mikeseocool View Post

      If it were an ebook, then $50 would be a good starting price.
      Wake up! Wake Up! You are sleeping right? Usually when you're dreaming, you are in a deep sleep. :p

      $50 may get you a table of contents and the first full page maybe, from a talented writer that has experience. I can't even image a writer writing an e-book for that amount unless they're brand new to the writing arena and just plain don't know any better.

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  • Profile picture of the author ayomyde
    Just being curious, who is this fellow Nigerian that writes good articles?
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  • Profile picture of the author moonradar77
    Jideofor,

    Sounds like the person is more a Ghost writer. Lol.

    Figure at $50 for 400 words, you better have a masterpiece of an article.

    The Warriors who can make an article sing, probably don't have clients steadily paying $50 for a 400 word article but maybe some do.

    I have never been paid that kind of money for any article.

    I better brush up on my skills if that kind of cash is available.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by moonradar77 View Post

      Figure at $50 for 400 words, you better have a masterpiece of an article.

      The Warriors who can make an article sing, probably don't have clients steadily paying $50 for a 400 word article but maybe some do.
      Here's the thing...

      A lot of Internet marketers have a different definition of what an "article" is as compared to what people in business or publishing consider an article to be.

      Internet marketers tend to view "articles" as nothing more than search engine fodder. Get tons of cheap content, throw it up on a site and hope the traffic comes. These people want cheap articles. These people can't see spending more than a couple bucks on an article.

      If that's their thing, if that works for them, fine. But, that's also the sort of thing that readers and, consequently, search engines hope to weed out. There's nothing worse than searching for something online and finding a lot of crummy "articles" with less than useful information out there.

      And so people ask for recommendations from friends to find better content. This is something the search engines keep trying to figure out. People can spot garbage. They can spot an article written in five minutes from some clown churning out dozens of articles at a buck a pop. Search engines use algorithms and they're not always as good at spotting garbage.

      So, search engines are trying to figure out ways of working in social recommendations for content. But they will probably always be behind what a human reader can spot and recommend.

      But, those kinds of "articles" work for some people because they buy so many that if they have enough content out there, regardless of quality, they might get some traffic and sales and it works for them.

      If that's the case, fine. But those people are probably never going to spend $50 on an "article" because they see more value in quantity than quality. And if that's what they think works for them, fine. But, if those are the people you are trying to sell to, you're never going to get paid $50 for an article.

      On the other hand, people in other industries are looking for quality content and they are looking for content that people will find interesting. They want content people will read. They want content that people can trust. They want content that will establish them as an authority. They want content to build their reputation. They want content that will project their professional image.

      And, for them, $50 for an article is the low end. You can find ones paying $100, $250, even $500 or more for an article.

      Those buyers are out there. You're just not highly likely to find them in Internet marketing circles.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        On the other hand, people in other industries are looking for quality content and they are looking for content that people will find interesting. They want content people will read. They want content that people can trust. They want content that will establish them as an authority. They want content to build their reputation. They want content that will project their professional image.

        And, for them, $50 for an article is the low end. You can find ones paying $100, $250, even $500 or more for an article.

        Those buyers are out there. You're just not highly likely to find them in Internet marketing circles.

        I know a fellow who pays $525 an article to his ghost writer, and he considers that to be a bargain on the work his writer does for him.
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    50 for an article. i can see that for a well done amazon review post or for a guest posting job.

    But for your run of the mill info post. I wouldnt.
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottDudley
    The only reason anybody would pay $50 for an article would be if the article was absolutely outstanding top drawer content written by a professional.

    There is so much competition for article all over the world that the supply far exceeds the demand, and that is why it is so cheap to get articles written.

    Having said that though, there is a big difference between an average writer and a professional writer. Unless you are a professional, you would have little chance of finding anybody that would pay $50 per article.
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    • Profile picture of the author Victoralexon
      Originally Posted by ScottDudley View Post

      Having said that though, there is a big difference between an average writer and a professional writer. Unless you are a professional, you would have little chance of finding anybody that would pay $50 per article.
      I think this comes down a lot to whether if you are good at marketing yourself or not. If you can brand yourself in the right way, then you probably won't have to be a writer god in order to get paid a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author andynathan
    I do not freelance articles exclusively, but as part of SEO and Blogging packages for clients. When I am networking offline I get clients like this all day long. You have to target where your clients will be in the end. That being said it is all sales, numbers, and a whole lot of hard work. I wrote a few lower priced articles to see how it would work. I got bored and disgusted with the time and effort for so little. What is the point?
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  • Profile picture of the author Social App Zone
    Is there any examples where we can see what a $20,$50,$100 and $200 article look like?
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by Social App Zone View Post

      Is there any examples where we can see what a $20,$50,$100 and $200 article look like?
      Would you recognize the inherent value of a $200 article if you saw one? No offense, but I honestly doubt it.

      Articles that command high prices often don't look all that much different from one's costing $10. Sometimes it isn't so much the article that has changed, but the person selling the article. They have decided to ask for the price they want, and they have found buyers at that price point.

      That's not to say that an article that sells for $200 is not worth that amount. Far from it. It's just that there is more going on than simply the difference between cheap articles and expensive articles. There are people involved, and the people who position themselves as well-paid article writers get well-paid work.

      Are their articles really worth the high prices they get for them? Ask the buyers - the buyers who keep coming back for more, and who happily pay the high asking prices. If they felt the articles were not worth the money being asked, they'd stop buying them and all the well-paid writers would go out of business.

      This isn't happening, though. :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author eClicker
    There are writers that write for pretty high level internet marketers that don't charge that for one article. I guess if you are a pretty popular copywriter you could get it but that's high.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by eClicker View Post

      There are writers that write for pretty high level internet marketers that don't charge that for one article. I guess if you are a pretty popular copywriter you could get it but that's high.

      Article writing and copy writing are two completely different types of endeavors.

      Article writing builds interest in a topic and credibility with the author, in the mind of the reader. And, if interest is high and credibility is strong, the article can generate a lot of clicks to the author's website and offers.

      Copy writing is putting together a sales page that will close the deal.

      Copy writing tends to be the far more expensive of the two specializations. While most folks think that article writers in the $50 to $500 range are expensive, that kind of money is not even enough money to open the Word document for an experienced and talented copy writer.

      It is like John Coutts said. If you want more money as a writer, you simply need to have the confidence to ask people to pay you what you want to be paid.



      HINT: Someone who is used to paying $5 an article will seldom if ever pay a writer more than $5 an article.

      If you want more money as a writer, you have to sell your writing services to a different kind of audience -- the people who are most likely to pay you the kind of money that you wish to be paid for the job that you are doing for them.

      I did freelance writing for a decade, and I was able to find customers at nearly every price point from $25 an article to $495 an article.

      If my customers were able to generate more money from the article I wrote for them, than they spent to get the article written, they would always come back to purchase more articles from me.

      It is Economics 101. No matter the price you pay for a product, if you can generate more money from the product than you spent to acquire the product, then you will have made a profit. If you are profiting from the purchase of a product, then you can keep going back to that well as long as you continue to profit from the products you are purchasing.

      I frequently offered my writing services at three different price points on three different websites, and I found more customers than I could shake a stick at, at every price point.

      On one website, I was selling the writing for $45 an article, and paying writers and editors to complete the work. With this website, I had 13 freelance writers and 2 editors on my payroll.

      On another website, I was selling "my articles" for $95 a pop and getting more work than I wanted.

      On the third website, I was selling articles at $395 per article, and I hired in 5 full-time writers from my local community to be sure that I could deliver the work purchased.

      The bottom line is that you should pick the price you want to charge for your writing, then find the customers who are comfortable paying your asking price to have quality content written for them.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by drewpleasant01 View Post

      I am a newbie on odesk so I can't take so much from there.
      Why not? Take exactly what you want. There isn't some rule or law that says a newbie has to earn demeaning rates. Ask for what you want. It's the only way you'll get it.

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  • Profile picture of the author bennie07
    It’s obvious from some of the individuals who are posting here, that they have very limited experience in what constitutes a good writer. In fact, some of the statements are laughable, tilted towards what could be considered insulting.
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  • Profile picture of the author neenasatine
    many people here do not know the names of Carol Tice, Oni Balusi and Linda Formichelli. these are writers who earns around 5000 dollars per month in freelance writing. if you want to be like them, you need to check out their sites

    plus there are sites that offers 50 dollars per article. However, you will only get paid if you article is approved. If rejected, no payment will be received. WPMU.org in fact pays around 100 dollars and higher per approved article.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffsolochek
    Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

    Hello Warriors,
    I know that there are many writers on here who write quality content for clients and have experience in this regard.

    I am a Nigerian and a few minutes back, I got talking with a fellow Nigerian. I told her that I have a friend( another Nigerian) who could help her with her article writing needs. The next thing she would ask is that; does the guy have any online presence? I told her the person I am referring to her wrote some of the articles used by Abayomi Aje who sold websites for profit but she refused to accept my words based on the fact that he probably wouldn't be a good writer because he has no online presence.

    She later said that there is another Nigerian who earn more $5000 per month from article writing !!! She claimed that the guy write articles for $50/article. I went to the said BIG money earner's blog and all I could see is just words stating that the he makes that kind of money BUT no screenshot to back up that claim.

    Now, I ask, do people single handedly make $5000 per month from article writing and do you easily get client who will pay $50/ article?

    While this lady does not want to believe that it was all made up to deceive people, I strongly believe that he does not make that much, except I missing something.

    Another question is, not having a blog or website make one an incompetent writer?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fantastic
    Yep but I've never made that much.


    I've gotten $20 per 500 words CONSISTENTLY...


    But I never made the jump to finding work entirely on my own either.


    Your location will hurt you though unfortunately.


    At the very best (if they know where you're from), you can expect $10 max.


    Nothing offensive here, just stating facts.


    90% of people will find someone for cheaper and sacrifice quality.


    The other 10% will hire a native English speaking writer instead.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by Fantastic View Post

      Yep but I've never made that much.


      I've gotten $20 per 500 words CONSISTENTLY...


      But I never made the jump to finding work entirely on my own either.


      Your location will hurt you though unfortunately.


      At the very best (if they know where you're from), you can expect $10 max.


      Nothing offensive here, just stating facts.


      90% of people will find someone for cheaper and sacrifice quality.


      The other 10% will hire a native English speaking writer instead.
      I'm not sure how you figure that out. I'm from Scotland and I regularly write for companies and individuals from all over the world.

      One of my main clients is a company in Phoenix, Arizona. I've been writing for them for about 18 months, and they pay me up to $100 for 500 words, so don't ever believe that Americans don't trust non-Americans to write for them.

      I have other clients in Canada, England, Australia and South Africa in the English-speaking countries, and from Sweden, Belarus, Slovenia and India, to name just a few, from the non-English speaking countries.

      I live in Spain these days (Scotland is too cold), so my location most definitely does not hurt me in the slightest.

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    • Profile picture of the author DTGeorge
      Originally Posted by Fantastic View Post

      Yep but I've never made that much.


      I've gotten $20 per 500 words CONSISTENTLY...


      But I never made the jump to finding work entirely on my own either.


      Your location will hurt you though unfortunately.


      At the very best (if they know where you're from), you can expect $10 max.


      Nothing offensive here, just stating facts.


      90% of people will find someone for cheaper and sacrifice quality.


      The other 10% will hire a native English speaking writer instead.
      Your location will hurt you though unfortunately. At the very best (if they know where you're from), you can expect $10 max.
      I'll put this nicely: that's a load of tosh.

      Communicate your worth effectively, and people won't care where you're from.

      I only relatively recently began freelance writing, but I've made $30 per article, and I'm from a country whose name you wouldn't even recognise.

      The other 10% will hire a native English speaking writer instead
      The only importance of having a native English speaking writer is their proficiency and ability with the language.

      If you can write well, then it won't matter whether you're a native English speaker or not.

      Great case in point for both of these issues is Bamidele of Writers in Charge (formerly Young Pre Pro)
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      • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
        Originally Posted by DTGeorge View Post

        Communicate your worth effectively, and people won't care where you're from.

        I only relatively recently began freelance writing, but I've made $30 per article, and I'm from a country whose name you wouldn't even recognise.
        Great post! You're absolutely right.
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      • Profile picture of the author Fantastic
        Originally Posted by DTGeorge View Post

        I'll put this nicely: that's a load of tosh.

        Communicate your worth effectively, and people won't care where you're from.

        I only relatively recently began freelance writing, but I've made $30 per article, and I'm from a country whose name you wouldn't even recognise.



        The only importance of having a native English speaking writer is their proficiency and ability with the language.

        If you can write well, then it won't matter whether you're a native English speaker or not.

        Great case in point for both of these issues is Bamidele of Writers in Charge (formerly Young Pre Pro)

        I was just speaking from experience but congrats on just beginning to write.

        $30 per article is pretty decent depending on how much work you're getting.

        However, I'm assuming you aren't from the same country as he is, correct?

        Countries in that area tend to have trouble landing work.

        If I'm wrong, then I guess maybe it's just the people I deal with...

        But I'd love to speak to someone who IS from that area...

        And makes any more than $10 per article on a regular basis as in...

        A full time income.

        99% of them are making no more than $1 per 100 words.

        That's not a load of "tosh."

        It's statistics.



        *Technically speaking, I've made $125 an article but "I've" means - I have..


        That doesn't mean I do it on a regular basis. Huge difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author oWriter
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    When we started out as online writers to support our passion, which is diving, we started out at $5 per article in one of the freelancing sites. It got old, though, because we realized that we had to write at least 10 to 20 per day just to get by. So we increased our rates eventually and found some clients who paid $20 to $35 per article.There was one who paid $50 per article, but his need was not such that he'd order regularly. So yes, there are clients who'd pay $50 or even more, but because of the rate (throngs would find $50 exorbitant), there'd not be a lot of orders to go around.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by oWriter View Post

      When we started out as online writers to support our passion, which is diving, we started out at $5 per article in one of the freelancing sites. It got old, though, because we realized that we had to write at least 10 to 20 per day just to get by. So we increased our rates eventually and found some clients who paid $20 to $35 per article.There was one who paid $50 per article, but his need was not such that he'd order regularly. So yes, there are clients who'd pay $50 or even more, but because of the rate (throngs would find $50 exorbitant), there'd not be a lot of orders to go around.
      There are plenty of orders at every price point to "go around". I write a bunch of articles every single month at the $100 price point. I also write at higher price points and lower ones too. I have all the work I need with plenty to go around for anyone else who wants it.

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      • Profile picture of the author JRJWrites
        If one of my articles is making you $500 in the long-term, then I want a LOT more than a measly 1% of the cut. I'd want at least $50-$100 of it.

        Originally Posted by John Coutts View Post

        I have all the work I need with plenty to go around for anyone else who wants it.
        Hmm. Might just have to send you a PM on that one.
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  • Profile picture of the author wbee
    For article in very technical/deep fields like for law, medicine, taxes etc, then yes, it probably would be easy to command upward of $50 per article. It really just all depends on your quality and who you're marketing to and the way you market your services.
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  • Profile picture of the author Winlin
    Regarding the original question: "Yes" $50.00 and more per article is a reasonable expectation.

    "However" - You will need to know how to market yourself, and sell your services in order to get the higher paying opportunities... These sorts of clients are not hanging out at the content mills waiting for genius to appear.

    The reality is, any reasonably competent writer with a good work ethic, that can make themselves known, and sell themselves can get these higher fees.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
      Originally Posted by Winlin View Post

      Regarding the original question: "Yes" $50.00 and more per article is a reasonable expectation.

      "However" - You will need to know how to market yourself, and sell your services in order to get the higher paying opportunities... These sorts of clients are not hanging out at the content mills waiting for genius to appear.

      The reality is, any reasonably competent writer with a good work ethic, that can make themselves known, and sell themselves can get these higher fees.
      Precisely! It's all about effectively marketing yourself. Checking out the jobs pages, the content mills, and maybe the occasional Craigslist ad, is NOT marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author William Martin
        To answer the question directly, yes, there are clients who pay $50 (and more) per article.

        I know because I have. However, I will generally only do this where the assignment is not pure writing i.e. there is some research involved before the writing can start.

        The trick is convincing potential clients that you are worth $50 per article and that is not easy in a world that includes the likes of Fiverr.

        As a matter of interest, I found the writer I used through his offer on Fiverr to write a first 'sampler' article for $5. If I liked it (which I did), subsequent articles would be at the 'full rate'.

        The lesson, I think, is that you need to attract the attention of people who are looking for quality writing on a regular basis. And that may mean using a 'loss leader' like this.

        If your writing is good enough, you will get repeat commissions and you may just get a client for life.

        By the way, I often wonder that writers good enough to command these higher rates aren't going the short extra mile and creating short ebooks to sell on Kindle.

        Not only could they make more money this way, they could include a pitch in the ebooks promoting their article writing business.

        Just a thought!
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  • Profile picture of the author mizambar
    Yes...getting back to the original question. There are lots of people who pay high rates for an article. I'm currently working with a guy to do an article for $10 per 100 words, which will work out to be around $100 for a thousand word article.

    But, I hired him because he has a specific knowledge about the topic of my blog (habits). So I'd rather go with him, then try to "train" a new writer to mimic my content.

    I agree with one of the original repliers... it's hard to find examples of people who earning a high pay rate for article writing, because they tend to stick to a handful of clients.
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