Lol ... Is Google's New Social Search an Epic Fail Before it Even Gets Started?

by sbucciarel Banned
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To me it's amazing that Google didn't anticipate the backlash against it adding it's Google Plus junk into it's search results.

I doubt that a lot of people are really interested in Google Plus info when they are searching, plus there are probably a lot of people who don't want their Google Plus info coming up in the search engine (you know, a privacy issue).

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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    I think google is doing something close to facebook... something social, .... but I think google is not doing well with social media (+1).... they're just naturally search engine, and there's a possibility that facebook will take over the "search engine" since facebook has its own search engine in their website. ...
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    • Profile picture of the author warfore
      Social is not a "core competency" of Google but they keep pushing the envelope by leveraging their search asset. I think that they are finding out that users want to keep these separate. I know that I do....
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      • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
        Originally Posted by warfore View Post

        Social is not a "core competency" of Google but they keep pushing the envelope by leveraging their search asset. I think that they are finding out that users want to keep these separate. I know that I do....
        This sums my feelings up exactly. I don't want one bleeding over into the other. But then, just because some of us feel this way doesn't mean it's not in Google's best interests to do what they're doing. They're a lot of things, but they're not run by stupid people.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Google is approaching social media like an old-school drill sergeant...

          "I need three volunteers," (pointing) "you, you and you."
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          • Profile picture of the author SEO Addict
            Google should just stick to what they do best: being a search engine. G+ is certainly not creating a better search experience.

            Leave the social stuff to the likes of Facebook and Twitter.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            Google is approaching social media like an old-school drill sergeant...

            "I need three volunteers," (pointing) "you, you and you."
            Exactly. Forcing people who use ANY Google service to sign up, whether they want to or not is hardly a measure of it's success.

            Google doubles Plus membership with brute-force signup process
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          • Profile picture of the author Tessa Holmes
            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            Google is approaching social media like an old-school drill sergeant...

            "I need three volunteers," (pointing) "you, you and you."
            That sounds about right. I was planning to implement Google+ for my personal and business activity, until it became obvious that Google is eager to get too much control over my online life. I am not comfortable with this idea and, even I am not happy with new Facebook privacy updates, would stick with FB for my social networking.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tessa Holmes
      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      I think google is doing something close to facebook... something social, .... but I think google is not doing well with social media (+1).... they're just naturally search engine, and there's a possibility that facebook will take over the "search engine" since facebook has its own search engine in their website. ...
      It seems like Facebook is doing some major mistakes now too. I am talking about "timeline change". It is now mandatory and not optional anymore. It seems like many people mentioned that that they are ready to give Google+ a try if they will be forced to use new Facebook feature.
      Facebook is trying to do what Google is usually doing and loosing in it and Google is trying to do what Facebook is good in and both are failing badly in it. This is a battle of the giants who do not move very graciously. It also seems like both companies now can get some extra attention from the government due the privacy issues.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Zach Crawley View Post

      I honestly think it's worthless.

      Google is trying to get in the social scene but they are
      just failing at it.

      I don't care what sites my friends like or what they look
      at nor do they want me looking at what they search for.

      I mean, who uses Google + anyway?

      I wish Google would just keep to what it does best, being
      a search engine.

      I agree. When people are really searching for things, what good is it to have real search results all mashed up with social results. It's irrelevant. I doubt that Google will ever be good at being a social network, but they should at least keep it separate from their search engine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Onora Oz
    Social results? Then mix Facebook, Twitter, Flickr into my Google search experience. Not Google+ or Picasa. Noone's in my social circles (including my followers, readers, customers) using these, even if I've tried to lure my people to them.
    I've read a lot on this issue, and I can talk about it 'till morning. But I'm gonna cut it short (because thinking about it is not good for my blood pressure lol). I'm not a fan of this change. Another non-fan is Twitter. Seen this?
    Twitter Concerned About Google's New Social Search
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    This was discussed briefly here in this thread

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ors-think.html

    And I agree 100%.

    I dont see any benefits to this shift, except for Google pimping G+

    BTW - Im still p*ssed at the GA team for removing the search referral data. GA is practically useless now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Minds Eye
    Yeah, I'm hoping they re-think this one before it's too firmly entrenched. Might make my Bing adspend more lucrative though...
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  • Profile picture of the author lukedidit
    Its a big fat fail.

    Google are messing around with their core flag ship offering which works very well as it is, it just needs careful attention and subtle changes, not this bullsh*t
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  • Profile picture of the author Winlin
    I do my part by, never having clicked a +1 ... In my book it's always been a fail and beyond any anti-trust issues I was always unclear how it was going to be manageable and sustainable in and open system such as the internet at large.

    IMO the only way the exec's at the big "G" could have believed that the experiment would work, is if they were also pretentious enough to believe they are the internet, and I'm certain to a point they do.

    The brilliance in the +1 model is that if a snowball effect "would have" occurred, the +1 could have become a sort of SEO currency, controlled by "The Bank Of G". Fortunately it seems, at least to me, the experiment is in fact failing. But beware, they are certainly planning their next move to continued dominance and what they learn here will help their efforts.

    "G" is not the internet they are merely, currently, the biggest player. I am an advocate of their software systems and have even used their browser since it became available, however, I in no way wish to see any one entity yield this much power within a system they have no ownership rights to and like the rest of us are merely guests within, e.g. the internet.

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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Remember the old guys at school trying to get into your "social network" kicking you in the n$#?

    Same thing Google is doing...

    Major FAIL.
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    To me it's amazing that Google didn't anticipate the backlash against it adding it's Google Plus junk into it's search results.
    Danny Sullivan did mention the likelihood in his excellent analysis here

    Google's Results Get More Personal With "Search Plus Your World"

    All success
    Dr.Mani

    P.S. - This is worth a read, too

    Search Engines Should Be Like Santa From "Miracle On 34th Street"
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    Damn, I better start searching for my porn on Bing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
    What I really hate about the whole "+1" is the fact that google are forcing it down everybody's neck!!

    You are being practically forced, kicking and screaming to use google +, you cant open a google account in any form now without joining +.

    In general people dont like being forced into anything, we like to make our own decisions.

    I think its just pain wrong, no doubt some people believe its their business and site, so they can do as they wish, but I hope it back fires on them in a big way

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    The point is, NO ONE wants "personal" search results.

    I don't care what sites my friends like or what they look
    at nor do they want me looking at what they search for.
    This.

    G+ is a big fail, and the few times when i searched and then i got some very private "profile pages" on the side as search result i was VERY confused.

    I was looking for "SEO" and then on the side it showed the profile of the owner of SeoMOZ with details about his family, wife..what they like to eat etc..

    TOTALLY IRRELEVANT idiotic idea to incorporate this into search results.
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    I think Google is betting with the search engine. Its war on social media seems to bring Google down before others.

    Just to enforce G+, doesn't means you get your most successful product down.

    Google risk is affecting all of its products, since they have been cracking both Adsense and Adwords account in the same time trying manipulate the results.

    Adsense click rate has dropped as the competition is lower than normal. I have camping on Microsoft, since the changes, I am getting much higher number of click with much less than my budget on adsense ever.

    I don't think this increase coming from my camping as much as coming from more people using Bing these days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
      Google is pushing into social media and Facebook responds by making significant changes to users privacy settings that mimic the Google+'s central feature, Circles, which lets users decide which posts are seen by their friends.Competition is making each other nervous and results to copying each other's tactics...in the end failing really bad.
      Sheeesh and I thought this was sooo high school. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Don't hate me, but all those "social sites" can go to hell.

    Being in IM for years, so i recently started with facebook. EVERYTHING there is annoying, creating a page is a joke..privacy settings etc. are ridiculous.

    Those people have a BILLION $$$ budget but cant produce anything better than what they have right now.

    If i make a page and start commenting on other's facebook pages, my totally irrelevant comments appear on my own page as "activity" and i cannot even turn that off.

    I see the most idiotic fanpages with millions of likes which are just senseless, moronic pages titled like "My Mom told me to get up but then i go back to bed because i like sleeping more than getting up"-type kind of pages...with senseless posts etc..

    Twitter i ALWAYS hated from the first minute.

    Just saying..i would be happy if all the social sites go to hell
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Ive been monitoring a keyword for a site I currently have ranked in 2nd spot, and over the past 2 weeks, 3 out of the top 10 search results are now G+

    My site is slowly being "swallowed up" or so it seems by Google Plus

    Having said that, Im now sitting here thinking....

    "Do I start pushing G+ to preserve my rankings?"
    "Are searchers being naturally drawn to the results that contain the author box graphic?"
    "Will my sites profit be affected in any way?"

    Overall, its not an ideal situation at all, and one cant help but think, that a typical reaction would be to simply "jump onboard" which is exactly what Google wants.

    Why cant they just be a search engine?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tiffiney Cowan
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      Ive been monitoring a keyword for a site I currently have ranked in 2nd spot, and over the past 2 weeks, 3 out of the top 10 search results are now G+

      My site is slowly being "swallowed up" or so it seems by Google Plus
      I'm sorry to hear about your site. I've read of others who have spent years building a successful business only to have it all turned upside down with the +1s.

      It is interesting to consider what impact +1 has on SEO efforts. I've read that some believe it encourages more interaction with their audience, which has had a positive impact on their business.

      I've been a ghostwriter for 5 years and am totally green when it comes to IM, but it does seem worth considering how incorporating (or not) g+ impacts our business overtime.

      I'm on g+ and am really enjoying it. There are a large number of IM and SEO folks there that I'm able to circle and learn a great deal from. Some have even "dropped everything for google+."
      https://www.keywordstrategy.org/1181...ng-for-google/
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Bratcher
    Google Plus was/is a natural evolution of the search engine giant considering the popularity and impact of social media. However, I think it was doomed from it's conception. Facebook is just too big and very easy to use even for the most casual of internet users. Google is just trying to keep themselves relevant and who can blame them? Facebook is steadily eclipsing Google in the amount of traffic they receive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim3
    Who wants to socialize on a site run by a multi-billion dollar company that has a forum for a customer service department, and more double standards than a four-pointed flagpole.

    Hopefully G+ will prove an expensive white elephant and Facebook will start a search engine
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    • Profile picture of the author batchos
      This is the best post in this thread; so true.

      Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

      Who wants to socialize on a site run by a multi-billion dollar company that has a forum for a customer service department, and more double standards than a four-pointed flagpole.

      Hopefully G+ will prove an expensive white elephant and Facebook will start a search engine
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  • Profile picture of the author goosefrabah
    The social search is very annoying indeed, it drives me crazy seeing some pointless results. I agree too with the above, some pages are dulled down with that and even some youtube results, although some tend to be relevant. Bringing the social aspect right in your face is what really is bothering everyone, make it a search stop shoving it in everyones face.

    People use google because their search is great, yahoo and bing's is subpar and everyone is so use to it. They are playing with fire by throwing garbage in the mix of the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbacklinks
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    Myspace quietly sits in the back with a huge grin on its face.. :]
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    • Profile picture of the author dcristo
      Originally Posted by socialbacklinks View Post

      Myspace quietly sits in the back with a huge grin on its face.. :]
      Myspace is well past it's expiry date, clearly you're just posting to promote your sig link.

      I recently added G+1 to one of my big sites. I'm thinking of taking the button off tbh.
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  • Profile picture of the author sonicadam123
    Personally, Google can shove social search where the sun doesn't shine.

    even if other social sites wanted to be involved, and last time I checked Facebook weren't interested because they hate Google lol and Twitter didn't renew the agreement.

    Still, it would stuck .. when I search I don't wanna see what my friends have looked at.

    Like others have said, they should stick to what they do best.

    If they want to make a go of a social network, good for them, but at the rate they're going they'll just trap us in their own sticky version of the internet.

    It would be great if we had a good alternative, but Bing still really sucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
    This thread reminds me of a Daniel Tosh search engine help skit...

    I don't get the point of people knowing what you search. It seems like it'll be either embarrassing by the esoteric subjects people search or useless because I know my friends don't care much about what I search. Maybe Google is going somewhere with this and we don't know it.
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