Do affiliates with big lists only recommend things that they can get commission on?

12 years ago

I would think affiliates are just people, I am. I would also think that it would depend on the affiliate. I have been approached by a affiliate friend, let me help you with that, that required no money exchange. So I think it is individuality.

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thedog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke

I would think affiliates are just people, I am. I would also think that it would depend on the affiliate. I have been approached by a affiliate friend, let me help you with that, that required no money exchange. So I think it is individuality.

Cheers, yes... this is all new to me, so I'm just trying to find out some affiliate list decorum.

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hustlinsmoke

12 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

Cheers, yes... this is all new to me, so I'm just trying to find out some affiliate list decorum.

They have a section here somewhere, where you can contact other affiliates to network with. I do alot of free stuff starting out then I spin it off. So I need the freebies at first then I take care of the ones that helped me when I spin off.

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thedog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke

They have a section here somewhere, where you can contact other affiliates to network with. I do alot of free stuff starting out then I spin it off. So I need the freebies at first then I take care of the ones that helped me when I spin off.

Cheers, I'll have a dig around for that... if anyone has anymore info...

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JohnMcCabe

12 years ago

I can't speak for everyone, and none of my lists would be considered big by guru standards (by design). But I do recommend things from time to time even if I don't get paid for it.

The main criterion is that the product or service is of high value to the members of the list. That means excellent output and top-notch support. For example, I've recommended Will Bontrager's Willmaster.com products for years simply because I use them myself and know that Will treats people right.

So what do I get out of it?

> I'm advancing my position as a trusted friend and adviser.

> I'm teaching my list members to click on things I recommend with anticipation of good things to come.

> I'm racking up brownie points with the universe. Sometimes the karma wheel spins slowly, but it always spins...

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thedog

12 years ago

Cheers... what's the best way to approach fellow marketeers... pm them, email them?

I'd like to offer my services at a discount, so, it's a great offer a list owner can share with their list... I'd also be happy to give the list owner a cut... but 50 - 75% really doesn't work... as, there's ongoing work that I have to do with them.

Good to know there's list owners out there who'll do this.

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

I can't speak for everyone, and none of my lists would be considered big by guru standards (by design). But I do recommend things from time to time even if I don't get paid for it.

The main criterion is that the product or service is of high value to the members of the list. That means excellent output and top-notch support. For example, I've recommended Will Bontrager's Willmaster.com products for years simply because I use them myself and know that Will treats people right.

So what do I get out of it?

> I'm advancing my position as a trusted friend and adviser.

> I'm teaching my list members to click on things I recommend with anticipation of good things to come.

> I'm racking up brownie points with the universe. Sometimes the karma wheel spins slowly, but it always spins...

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

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thedog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

No ...

I promote things on which I don't earn a penny (because they have no affiliate program, and for other reasons).

It's part of the "giving of valuable information" which my subscribers expect. There are, admittedly, some non-financial benefits which can gradually translate, over the longer term, into future financial benefits. Things like "credibility" and "trust".

I do usually mention openly, when doing that, that I'm not an affiliate and that it's an unincentivized recommendation.

None of my lists is really "big", though, I think, as you're perhaps thinking of them in the context of your title ...

Cheers Alexa, seems every time I see you on here you've a new pic

Ye, I plan to start building a list... and would also offer things of high value... it's good to share.

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Lucian Lada

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

No ...

I promote things on which I don't earn a penny (because they have no affiliate program, and for other reasons).

It's part of the "giving of valuable information" which my subscribers expect. There are, admittedly, some non-financial benefits which can gradually translate, over the longer term, into future financial benefits. Things like "credibility" and "trust".

I do usually mention openly, when doing that, that I'm not an affiliate and that it's an unincentivized recommendation.

None of my lists is really "big", though, I think, as you're perhaps thinking of them in the context of your title ...

I'm curious: how often someone should do it and how expensive should the recommended resources need to be. I'm think that a $15 Amazon book should do the trick. I don't want them to spend all their money on something I can't get a share of.

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by canyon

I don't want them to spend all their money on something I can't get a share of.

Yes, this is perhaps a point ... though I don't normally let it influence me at all, I admit.

I'm only going to recommend something for which I'm not an affiliate if I think the people who buy it are going to be really happy with it and grateful to me for recommending it, and I see that as increasing the chances of my "making a sale" to them, really, not reducing it. Overall.

I may be slightly influenced, in this reasoning, by the fact that my lists generally comprise reasonably "upmarket, affluent, educated" subscribers, for whom prices alone tend not to be too much of an issue.
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Michael Meaney

12 years ago

Will list owners only recommend something to their list, if there's something in it for them?

What if it's something very beneficial to their list, something of high value... will they only recommend this for a 50% + cut?

I have a five figure list and NEVER promote affiliate stuff.

While I often promote products and services that I've used, I'll never make money from the recommendation. For this reason my list knows that when I promote something it's because I genuinely believe it will help them.

Some things are more important than money.

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Andy Fletcher

12 years ago

Affiliate marketing is just an advertising channel like any other. Whether you sell a product or a service it doesn't matter you need to build an advertising budget into your sale price.

So just because you could do a job for $100 if people were lining up to have you do it for them doesn't mean you can only charge $100. There's the cost of reaching them involved.

If you advertise via PPC that's the cost of the click.

If you advertise via banners that's the cost of the impressions.

If you advertise via affiliates that's the cost of the sales.

Build that cost into your sale price from the beginning and you'll have a much easier time of it.