Scammers I know who you are and will come for you .

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Here at this wonderful forum . People desire my knowledge . This makes me feel really good. I try to be honest and nice . Here my last 2 WSO's I have encountered the same scammer both times . Same email address same info .

My question is should I report this scammer to the mods? Or should I just outs his scamming little butt out here in front of the whole comunity ?

Yeah whoever you are I have all your info phone number date of birth a arial photo of your house and everything . I have been alive and active on the net every since the mid 90's . I can make your life miserable .

I know what domains you have and who you host with . I can have all that banned tomorrow . If you would have came to me like a man and said hey I would like some info but I do not have that much money we could have worked something out .
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    Sounds rufffff Trent ... please keep us all in the loop
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  • Profile picture of the author bladerunner
    Go get em trent, keep the forum clean
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
    Cool I will upload his picture and everything now mayybe someone here will know him .
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Before you take any action I suggest that you stick
    to the rules, especially this one..

    The main overriding rule for this forum is this:

    If you have a problem with another Warrior, a Guru, or God, take it up with them directly. Not here. No exceptions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
    Man I had it all set . Thanks . But this person will not be contacting me . You know this Well looks like I will have to take it out of his business and shut down his websites . It is not the money that burns me it is the fact he did it very dirty .
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    • Profile picture of the author Maximillion_Z
      May I ask what the scammer was trying to achieve? I find it hard to understand some peoples attitudes, and why they'd want to steal or cheat anyone...
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
    Have no clue what they where trying to achieve or why they tried to achieve it.

    It is the same person each time they buy and immediately contact paypal and say it was an unauthorized charge .Paypal being the scared little cat they are always sides with the buyer in these cases .

    I have even lost money on ebay on some high ticket items due to this . One item cost me a grand total of 1500 dollars .In this case it was just to low ticket ebooks . Which like I said before it is not about the money . If they could not afford it I would have worked something out with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
    What do you mean? How much more can I elaborate ? They bought 2 of my ebooks and immediately contacted paypal each time saying that it was an unauthorized charge . That is about as plain as I can get it .

    Actually I do not think you can get it any plainer than that .
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    • Profile picture of the author Maximillion_Z
      Perhaps you have an enemy? Now you've described the situation more, its beginning to sound like sabotage.

      Or are they just trying to obtain your goods for free, and get a refund.
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      • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
        Originally Posted by Maximillion_Z View Post

        Perhaps you have an enemy? Now you've described the situation more, its beginning to sound like sabotage.

        Or are they just trying to obtain your goods for free, and get a refund.
        You may be right either way . I have made a few enemies and a few friends along the way . I just do not understand why they would not just come to me and say hey I do not have any money but would really like to give your methods a try . I am not heartless you know .

        Sheesh if only they woulda done it the easy way .
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        • Profile picture of the author goindeep
          Did you contact this scammer? Ask for your money back?

          And yes i agree with the chick poster before which said something about a black list. ONly that the black list should apply across the whole damn WEB!
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    • Profile picture of the author Maximillion_Z
      People become very brave when behind a keyboard. Most of these people wouldn't dare do these things in a face to face situation.
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    • Profile picture of the author sahi
      Such incidents are part of this marketing business. Each one of us encounters and will encounter such scammers while doing this business.
      People selling software, scripts have been able to stop such things to some extent but in ebooks business such things would continue happening for some more time in future.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidO
    I sympathize with you, Trent. I've been burned too. Right now I've got two other IMers ripping off my product and damaging the overal reputation and credibility of my methods by putting out fake, low-budget imitations. I'm mad as hell.

    But blacklists are a BAD idea. The same sleazos who manipulate the system and rip us off can do the same with blacklists. Every blacklist ends up hurting innocent people.

    Let it go... this is just the way of the world.
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    • Profile picture of the author rcraig12
      Originally Posted by DavidO View Post

      I sympathize with you, Trent. I've been burned too. Right now I've got two other IMers ripping off my product and damaging the overal reputation and credibility of my methods by putting out fake, low-budget imitations. I'm mad as hell.

      But blacklists are a BAD idea. The same sleazos who manipulate the system and rip us off can do the same with blacklists. Every blacklist ends up hurting innocent people.

      Let it go... this is just the way of the world.
      I react the same way if anything similar occurs to me. I always have to tell myself "pride comes before a fall". I know its easier to say than do. But letting personal emotions drive you. Will short circuit your progress.

      Distraction from the game in hand is never good

      best wishes,


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  • Profile picture of the author Amitywill
    This post seems way over the top. So what someone got 2 of your ebooks for free. There are millions of scammers online, I've had people try and scam me loads of times.

    Just last week I had someone try to scam me out of $499. Also 2 months ago I had my debit card details stolen and $9k stolen from me but I don't come on here and post about it. Just move on and focus on the people that aren't scammers. If you let silly little things like 2 ebooks being stolen from you bother you then you obviously aren't cut out for online business.

    PS. I'm not trying to be nasty just saying that it's not a good idea to go down the trail of hunting scammers because for every 1 you catch there will be 10 more to take his place. Also if the person was a warrior member just contact admin or something and also try and contact paypal to stop furthar transactions from him.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hersh
    Is it the first scam you got into?

    If I would have the time to run after every scammer I get to my websites I think I was broke by now.

    Stop looking for people who don't have the respect to someone who works so hard to get a product or a service out to the world, instead, concetrate in making your money from others.

    Good luck and I'm really sorry for you anyway.

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  • Profile picture of the author Vincent Abrugar
    take a deep breath... relax... and move on..

    cheers! :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Suthan M
    Looks like the same modus operandi a d*ickhead uses on me a few time.. Can you PM me his name and if its the same, we can report him and raise hell out of WF ..

    Sometimes i love name and shame .. scammers dont need love.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
    Hehe . Yeah I do get scammed on a daily basis it seems . Never twice by the same person . That is a first for me .

    These types of things I do suspect from ebay and other places but I never would have expected it out of a warrior .

    Like I said it is not about the money as I have no worries about that matter. I never go hungry. It is more about principles . I feel as first time ok you got me . Now the second time you are trying to make a fool of me .

    As was advised I wash my hands of the matter . This did not happen . So you know who you are this time you are safe Next time I will insist on having some fun at your expense .

    Fun by wrecking your business . Posting fotos of your house everywhere . You personal photos . Your ip address . Giving your phone number to every internet marketer in Florida . Signing your address up for some good old fashioned junk mail . Having your inbox so full you will not even be able to use your email account anymore . A few other tricks I know to actually play the devil with your domain names and hosting .

    Really the best part is I have a team of outsourcers standing by to do my bidding 24/7 to make this happen . Please next time just come talk to me .
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    • Profile picture of the author joefission
      Use DLGuard -- ban their e-mail address and IP address. They can get around it with a proxy and another e-mail, but most will not go through the trouble.

      It's a fact of life, and there are plenty of 'unauthorized charge' pros on this board, but there are plenty more honest, hard-working folks.

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    • Profile picture of the author IMChick
      Originally Posted by Trent Rez View Post

      Hehe . Yeah I do get scammed on a daily basis it seems . Never twice by the same person . That is a first for me .

      These types of things I do suspect from ebay and other places but I never would have expected it out of a warrior .

      Like I said it is not about the money as I have no worries about that matter. I never go hungry. It is more about principles . I feel as first time ok you got me . Now the second time you are trying to make a fool of me .

      As was advised I wash my hands of the matter . This did not happen . So you know who you are this time you are safe Next time I will insist on having some fun at your expense .

      Fun by wrecking your business . Posting fotos of your house everywhere . You personal photos . Your ip address . Giving your phone number to every internet marketer in Florida . Signing your address up for some good old fashioned junk mail . Having your inbox so full you will not even be able to use your email account anymore . A few other tricks I know to actually play the devil with your domain names and hosting .

      Really the best part is I have a team of outsourcers standing by to do my bidding 24/7 to make this happen . Please next time just come talk to me .

      Hold on a minute here, I understand that you're angry, but you're going waaaay overboard with personal threats.

      First of all, it's inapproprite to threaten people like this. period. get over yourself.

      Second, blow off steam elsewhere, we don't want to read this nonsense. You're lucky no-one has reported this as a threatening post and had you banned.

      Third, tailor your retaliation efforts to the "crime" but understand that

      Fourth, sometimes this is the cost of doing business.

      My best advice to you is to report this guy to paypal. Follow up your email with a calm, business-like phone call to their customer service. If this is truly a scam, paypal will be able to see very easily that this is a serial refunder by looking into the last 2 seconds of their account history. If you approach this in a dignified business manner, more likely than not a dispute with paypal will go in your favor on a serial refund. Then that customer will be blocked from paypal transactions and have the refunds denied or reversed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Shaun,

    I absolutely agree with you and I know for a fact there are a whole lot more honest folks on this forum than there are dishonest ones.

    Trent, I understand your point about it being the principal of the matter and not the money itself. However, continuing to post what you can do to this "scammer" is a waste of your valuable time. Don't let this guy stay in your head and ruin your day.

    Go and do something positive for yourself. Perhaps you could reach out to a fellow warrior, that you know is struggling and provide your product or a little coaching to them at no charge. By doing good for someone else will take the focus off of you being screwed.

    Here is to your day being much better for you.

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  • Profile picture of the author Prashaant
    Hey.... i just had the same problem with my WSO last week... PM'ing you....
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    Trent,

    I sympathize with yoiur situation, but...

    As was advised I wash my hands of the matter . This did not happen . So you know who you are this time you are safe Next time I will insist on having some fun at your expense .

    Fun by wrecking your business . Posting fotos of your house everywhere . You personal photos . Your ip address . Giving your phone number to every internet marketer in Florida . Signing your address up for some good old fashioned junk mail . Having your inbox so full you will not even be able to use your email account anymore . A few other tricks I know to actually play the devil with your domain names and hosting .

    Really the best part is I have a team of outsourcers standing by to do my bidding 24/7 to make this happen . Please next time just come talk to me .
    posting stuff like this could come back to haunt you. It could legally be construed as a terrorist threat and if something unfortunate did happen to the individual, it wouldn't bear well for you.

    Digital information seems to last forever.

    Thanks,

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    • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
      Originally Posted by globalpro View Post

      Trent,

      I sympathize with yoiur situation, but...



      posting stuff like this could come back to haunt you. It could legally be construed as a terrorist threat and if something unfortunate did happen to the individual, it wouldn't bear well for you.

      Digital information seems to last forever.

      Thanks,

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      I am not even gonna begin to blow holes in that theory . If you feel safer thinking that ok .
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      • Profile picture of the author globalpro
        Trent,

        Originally Posted by Trent Rez View Post

        I am not even gonna begin to blow holes in that theory . If you feel safer thinking that ok .
        All I am saying is that there are still rules and laws that have to be followed. Digital info, like these posts, seem to linger forever.

        The things that you were saying could be viewed as a threat, which where I live is considered a 3rd felony, punishable by law.

        It's like what some have posted about posting exposing them on the forum. Without substantiated proof, it could be viewed as slander and libelous, which could be used in a civil suit.

        Posting online doesn't negate the law.

        I still empathize for you, but like others have said, move on to bigger and better things. What goes around comes around, but if emotions get the best of someone, it can come back to them. Consider it a learning experience.

        All the best in moving ahead.

        Thanks,

        John
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Trent -

      Clearly some people don't get what you are saying. You can't out this person in the forum - but you can report this to the help desk so mods and allen are aware of the abuse. This same complaint has been mentioned a couple times previously so wonder if it's always the same person(s).

      This behavior indicates either a totally clueless newbie or a vindictive buyer.

      If you have a way to block this person, I'd block them from buying in the future. As an alternative, if you see a purchase from this person, I'd refund it immediately and I'd tell them why.

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  • Profile picture of the author elvanvitar
    Unfortunately no. It's sad that paypal is in bed with the buyers on this issue and let some continue to scam like that. If it wasn't the most widely used payment gateway I would move away from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
    Thanks Kay . I will try to remember that . I am tired been up for 36 hours getting a new project set up walking my freelancers through everything in between talking to students on YM .Starting threads . Answering PM's .Blah Blah Blah . Kinda tired and really mellow right now . Right now they coulda robbed me for 10k so tired I really do not care at this point .

    It was great though to use as a focal point for a boost of energy but it got old . If he does it again I will talk to someone . Or heck just let him have it for free heck I don't care right now . I will give him the whole collection heh.

    Funny how you feel once your second wind wears off .
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRealDomainer
    This thing is there online as I keep experiencing it.
    But if out of every 100 you get 4% of refund, then live with it...
    You just have to put it at the back of your mind that this make the Internet World Complete...

    Move on... and concentrate on making more money than investing your time on that issue...
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  • Profile picture of the author TLCarroll
    Trent,
    I know it's frustrating, but like a few others suggested take a deep breath and move on to more productive pursuits.

    Karma will rain down on this @$$hole.

    Keep your head up. Don't stoop to his level.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Funny how you feel once your second wind wears off .
      Yes - you get furious, frustrated and want to squeeze the idiot till he cries.

      But then you realize someone like that won't use the info anyway - and you can put it in perspective and laugh about it. Just takes a little time to get your priorities back in order.

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  • Profile picture of the author mfleisch
    I say put his scamming littl *&^% out here for everyone to see. These people have to go away!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyson Faulkner
      Yah, it's frustrating to get refunds when you know that the person didn't even plan on paying to get the information.

      But like Kay said, people like that go around and spend all their time scamming to get products for free. They will never use your good content because they're too busy moving from book to book.

      IMO the best thing to do is pretend there was no sale in the first place. These people aren't worth the stress they bring you, and you will make far more money doing something productive than trying to ruin someone's life for being a lowlife, there's just too many of them out there.
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    Hang 'em High! Up The Irons! G
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  • Profile picture of the author qubex
    It's really unfortunate that you have to go through that, Trent! It makes me think about the companies out there who are dealing with software piracy! I wonder if the CEO of Adobe has ever done a bittorrent search for his software...

    The moral of the story....no matter how shitty you think your situation is, there's always another poor ba$t@ard getting the shaft twice as hard!
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  • Profile picture of the author jayman
    I know how frustrating this can be, i say u report them
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Trent,

      There are more subtle ways.

      For example,

      Dear First Name

      Thank you for buying product XYZ.

      I decided to choose one buyer at random to get my fast action bonus and your name came out of the hat.
      • My premium product (value $1,500)
      • Open ended personal coaching - I keep coaching you until your IM income reaches $20,000 per month. GUARANTEED!
      • An all-expenses paid ticket to (top guru's name) 3 day seminar. The networking opportunity of a lifetime!
      • All my future WSOs for free (priceless)
      Sadly, of course, as he refunded you will have to send a follow-up email explaining that he no is no longer eligible for the surprise bonus.

      Try breaking it to him gently.

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      • Profile picture of the author joefission
        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        Trent,

        There are more subtle ways.

        For example,

        Dear First Name

        Thank you for buying product XYZ.

        I decided to choose one buyer at random to get my fast action bonus and your name came out of the hat.
        • My premium product (value $1,500)
        • Open ended personal coaching - I keep coaching you until your IM income reaches $20,000 per month. GUARANTEED!
        • An all-expenses paid ticket to (top guru's name) 3 day seminar. The networking opportunity of a lifetime!
        • All my future WSOs for free (priceless)
        Sadly, of course, as he refunded you will have to send a follow-up email explaining that he no is no longer eligible for the surprise bonus.

        Try breaking it to him gently.

        Martin
        Classic!

        Seriously, you shouldn't let these people get to you. It's all a part of doing business. Any efforts you make to try to keep the unscrupulous at bay are as likely to affect your honest customers.

        They are not worth your time or effort. Just accept that it happens and move on.

        I do something similar to Martin in that I'll release future products to free to folks on my list -- but they have to enter their customer or receipt number to get access. I always make sure there are no refunders on that list.

        It doesn't prevent the refunds, but it does give me a small measure of satisfaction.

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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Fenton
    Hi Trent:

    I am sorry the level of unethical behavior you have faced. May it be resolved to your satisfaction. Could I send you a PM about a question I have with PayPal and how they handle certain things? I don't want to post it here because no further information should get into the hands of the unscrupulous.

    Thank you for your time and be well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charann Miller
    Is there any way of blocking certain paypal email addresses from purchasing from you especially since you mention it's happened on more than one occasion?

    You might want to see if this is a viable option especially as you say you're working on your next project, might be worth looking into.

    Keep us posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmickey
    it also happened to me for a few times

    want to exchange their details and ip's?

    we need to teach them some lessons
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    You know, you could start a revenge service with your expertise. There are many who have been burned and wonder what to do about it. They could just turn it over to you and sleep soundly.
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  • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
    I understand how the OP feels. It's pretty much like directing a movie- working your a** off for the perfect script, tweaking your screenplay, adding characters to the story, figuring out the locations, thinking of the camera angles, sweating out on the editing table, supervising the graphics and special effects and carefully devoting every blood and sweat for the finest details of the movie as if your life depends on it.

    Time for your movie to release and what happens?????, a rat comes along and sells pirated copies.
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  • One thing that has not been brought up is the one thing that costs offline businesses more money than any other problem. That is...SHRINK

    Offline business, especially retail and insurance companies, have to deal with the same thing you are going through - theft.

    Nearly every item you buy from a brick and mortar business has a certain % of SHRINK built into it.

    You, as a business owner also have to come to terms with this unfortunate phenomenon. You have to accept the fact that a certain percentage of your sales will result in some sort of fraud - illegal sharing, illegal selling, filing a paypal claim, and so on.

    What you have to do is build that into your pricing. Since you are having this problem, try increasing the price of your WSO by $1. This will help offset the SHRINK in your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
    Originally Posted by Trent Rez View Post


    Yeah whoever you are I have all your info phone number date of birth a arial photo of your house and everything . I have been alive and active on the net every since the mid 90's . I can make your life miserable .
    Is this a scene from the new movie "TAKEN"?

    ".....I will come for you, find you, then....."

    Jason Bourne his azz.:-)

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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
    Nah money is no problem .

    I want to mention this . Please do not tell me what a scum bag I am .

    I was tired . I picked something to get irate about to keep myself going And that dude looked like a good target . I get scammed all the time on a daily basis . It is nothing new .

    Anyway this helped me to finish off my work then I went to sleep now it is over .
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Trent,
      Please do not tell me what a scum bag I am
      I haven't seen anyone doing this.

      But I have seen at least one person imply that this is a bad example to set.

      What will carry people much further is to learn to deal with the inevitable stresses of customer service professionally and to waste as little time and energy on the negative side of it that exists on a 'faceless' internet.

      mmickey said -
      it also happened to me for a few times

      want to exchange their details and ip's?

      we need to teach them some lessons
      It's your choice what you do with your own time, but you should be aware that if you desire to start teaching people these type of lessons, you will find that the losers of the world have all of the time in the world to engage in 'wars' and that they are plentiful.

      Much better to learn lessons from it, then spend as little time as possible lessening the damage they can do to your business, hold your head high and move on to making more money in order to reward your own professionalism in the best possible way.
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      • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
        I must have stuttered my apologizes ?

        What I just said was .

        I was just looking for something to get irate about to keep myself awake so that I could finish some work .

        Professional ? Maybe not .

        But then again I am not the professional type . I unlike others do not try to hold myself to weird bazaar standards . I do not care what people think of me . I am just me . People can like me for who I am and not some fake front . Or not .

        But I am not going to put up a fake front . I am not going to pretend to be a goody tooshoes . that is the fakest thing ever . kind of disgusting really . Acting like you have never done anything wrong before .

        You never vent ? There is rules on venting ? Did i use any curse words ?

        Far as money goes and this goes it is pedly . It was just something for me to keep myself occupied with . good lord . I make 100 to 200 times that much in a day .

        Really some people here take things way to overboard . Or they are trying to market there name like no one can see the front they are putting on .

        Now set back and read over the post REALLL good . This is quite humorous. Some people here are soooo full of there selves it is beyond laughable .

        Today I have a bit of free time. My outsourcers are taking care of everything today . So I get the opportunity to set back and watch peoples reaction to find out what people here are made of who is fake and who to ignore . This post told me a lot of things about the people who have replied to this thread .

        Like why they are REALLY here . What kind of person they are . Also other things as well if you study there writing style when they posted .

        Also I notice a lot of people did not read they just skimmed and posted . I think it is just to increase there post count . Oddly those are the same ones that posted I am holier than thou .

        Honestly set back and REALLY read the post!
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        • Profile picture of the author ExRat
          Hi Trent,

          I must have stuttered my apologizes ?

          What I just said was .

          I was just looking for something to get irate about to keep myself awake so that I could finish some work .

          Professional ? Maybe not .

          But then again I am not the professional type . I unlike others do not try to hold myself to weird bazaar standards . I do not care what people think of me . I am just me . People can like me for who I am and not some fake front . Or not .

          But I am not going to put up a fake front . I am not going to pretend to be a goody tooshoes . that is the fakest thing ever . kind of disgusting really . Acting like you have never done anything wrong before .

          You never vent ? There is rules on venting ? Did i use any curse words ?

          Far as money goes and this goes it is pedly . It was just something for me to keep myself occupied with . good lord . I make 100 to 200 times that much in a day .

          Really some people here take things way to overboard . Or they are trying to market there name like no one can see the front they are putting on .

          Now set back and read over the post REALLL good . This is quite humorous. Some people here are soooo full of there selves it is beyond laughable .

          Today I have a bit of free time. My outsourcers are taking care of everything today . So I get the opportunity to set back and watch peoples reaction to find out what people here are made of who is fake and who to ignore . This post told me a lot of things about the people who have replied to this thread .
          Why don't you start a personal blog?
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          • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
            Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

            Hi Trent,

            Why don't you start a personal blog?
            Blogs journals meh . I do an awful lot of writing . My job's are really hard work .

            Trust me allow me to list ..

            Blog flipper.

            SEO..

            Teacher

            Affiliate Marketer .

            Now trying my hand at creating my own products .

            Gets kind of rough . Specially when I have a member of the team slacking on me .

            That and I insist on doing my own support as well . I feel I can never train someone on how to help others . Which is what I really like doing .

            Money is great but sometimes ... Sometimes I would give it all away to get rid of the stress it causes .

            Ohh yeah there is also that mean streak in me as well . I am meaner than a coyote caught in a snare but believe it or not i also have a kind side as well .
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            • Profile picture of the author ExRat
              Hi Trent,

              I feel I can never train someone on how to help others . Which is what I really like doing .
              You must have missed this part of my first post -

              this is a bad example to set
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              • Profile picture of the author Trent Rez
                Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                Hi Trent,



                You must have missed this part of my first post -
                Yes you are correct . If only I could find another way to channel creativity . *Anger has always worked for me for some odd reason*
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                • Profile picture of the author Dixiebelle
                  Trent: I have read this entire post, and I know what you mean. It does appear that some people seem to think it is okay to be ripped off, but there is a rainbow at the end of every storm. Read on.

                  There is one thing that not a single person has mentioned. Theft is tax deductable. Save those Paypal refund receipts. They're like money in the bank when it comes time to fill out your tax returns. If you do a decent amount of business, I'm sure you pay taxes. That should at least put a smile on your face.

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  • Profile picture of the author Spike SpiegelIM
    This kind of news is really a downer. Especially when you really work your ass off. I just hope this ends well for the OP. Godspeed..
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    I think that you're wasting a lot of creative energy in this thread, and I mean that in a complimentary way.

    If something burns you up and you direct it inward and have to vent, use that to your advantage, don't just let it go away. If blogging isn't your thing, start the scammer site or something just like it but call it something else.

    But always keep in mind the 'image' you are conveying. I'm sorry that you feel that it's ok to just 'be me' but that's a very one-sided narrow view that can do you more harm than good.

    Professionalism and business acumen will always win out when you deal with the public and approach the solutions to problems.

    Glad to hear that you're over it. Now, let me ask you part 2 of the million dollar question-- what steps have you taken today to eliminate this threat from your future business? Hint: the answer is 'I reported him to paypal, started a dispute, banned the isp AND bought a download protector type product where I can prove customer interaction and ban isps if future problems develop in my customer database.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teenage Genius
    I doubt it's an enemy, looks like you've come accross somebody who wants quality products without paying for them. They'll always be more than one out there
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