If People are going to fake testimonials they shouldnt use Celebrities!

That's hilarious, not to mention none-too-bright. I noticed that the site had one backlink from a WSO here.

I snapped a quick PDF of the page, should Ms. Britton need it and the page and cache suddenly disappear.

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John Sullivan

16 years ago

Interesting there seems to be a WSO still running for this membership??

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Frank Murphy

16 years ago

OK guys, before the daggers come out here, i just want to say something in my defence. The site creation, along with its testimonials, was outsourced, and i had no idea that the testimonials (both) were faked. Anyways, Hidman has contacted the freelancer, gave him a earfull, and demanded a refund. I sincerely apologise if it caused distress to anyone. I guess i should have checked everything carefully before launching my site, thats my fault. I wil be careful with any outsourcing in future. Thanks for pointing that out for me Spud..

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Frank Ayres

16 years ago

Originally Posted by misako

OK guys, before the daggers come out here, i just want to say something in my defence. The site creation, along with its testimonials, was outsourced, and i had no idea that the testimonials (both) were faked. Anyways, Hidman has contacted the freelancer, gave him a earfull, and demanded a refund. I sincerely apologise if it caused distress to anyone. I guess i should have checked everything carefully before launching my site, thats my fault. I wil be careful with any outsourcing in future. Thanks for pointing that out for me Spud..

Just out of interest how can you Outsource Testimonials?
Surely they are either Genuine Or Fake?
I cant see how you can outsource this?

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sevenish 16 years ago

Originally Posted by misako

The site creation, along with its testimonials, was outsourced, and i had no idea that the testimonials (both) were faked.

Now that's even funnier. Sorry.
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ExRat

16 years ago

Hi,

Good spot.

You'd think with eager warrior reviewers (from the UK I might add) that they could come up with some real testimonials or at the least find someone in the UK to point out their error before getting caught with their pants down like this.

Edit - Hi Misako,

Did you outsource your articles too? If so it might be worth checking those as well...

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Frank Murphy

16 years ago

Since the product was new in the market, he told me that he would assist me in getting testi's for the product, by giving review copies to his 'contacts', and charged me a higher fee for the job. How was i to know that he was faking it all along? This kind of stuff always happens on my birthday

i really need your support guys..I hope you would help me pull through this turmoil

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ExRat

16 years ago

Hi Imran,

I think its unfair you guys are judging her. She is not a web designer - and she did do her best on her product. I think the fault lies in the web designer and the person who designed the template.

Yep it's the template's fault.

No-one is judging Misako.

Business owners are responsible for the consequences of conducting their business, regardless of whether it is the actions of an employee or an outsourced worker that causes the problem.

Trying to tell people different isn't helping anyone.

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Frank Murphy 16 years ago

I am really not trying to evade the blame. In fact, i admitted to my fault that i should have verified everything before launch..But this public shaming is also unnecassary, compound to the fact that i didnt intend anyone any harm
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Charann Miller

16 years ago

I saw your WSO and you really pulled out all the stops, congrats on your success with it.

Don't let a moment like this jade that. Thanks for explaining and clarifying what happened and it shows that in life anything can happen and that sometimes things can be outside of our immediate control. I would never have imagined that someone working for me would fabricate testimonials either. It just makes you wiser and more aware for next time.

Best of luck.

Originally Posted by misako

Since the product was new in the market, he told me that he would assist me in getting testi's for the product, by giving review copies to his 'contacts', and charged me a higher fee for the job. How was i to know that he was faking it all along? This kind of stuff always happens on my birthday

i really need your support guys..I hope you would help me pull through this turmoil

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sevenish

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

Misako is an honest warrior and I think its unfair you guys are judging her.

No one is judging necessarily; just pointing out what looks to be an out-and-out misrepresentation.

She is not a web designer

What, exactly, is the connection between the ability to design and the ability to tell the truth?

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Frank Ayres

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

Well if she outsourced then the responsiblity lies in the person who wrote the testimonial. Thats my point.

My point is she is an honest warrior and I have known her for some time.

as you were friends and in UK maybe you should have pointed out the error before anyone else did?

Also the "Contact Us" at the bottom doesnt work either because i was going to use that to inform the owners of their mistake

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Frank Murphy

16 years ago

You could have PMed me instead?

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Frank Ayres

16 years ago

Originally Posted by misako

You could have PMed me instead?

I didn't know you were a warrior when i posted this thread if you read the thread someone else pointed it out

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Frank Murphy

16 years ago

Are you able to delete this thread now? Thanks..i dont want to report to the admin. Wouldn't want to hurt your reputation..Its not a good feeling, now i know. Kindly delete this thread, thanks..

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sevenish

16 years ago

Originally Posted by misako

Are you able to delete this thread now? Thanks..i dont want to report to the admin. Wouldn't want to hurt your reputation..Its not a good feeling, now i know. Kindly delete this thread, thanks..

I don't think it should be deleted. It might be a good lesson for many members here.

It would appear that veracity of sales copy is, or was, not taken very seriously by a number of people here, as evidenced by several of the replies here.

Even if you do report the thread, Spud's reputation is so far not in danger. He merely pointed out a gross misrepresentation on a sales letter with unauthorized use of a well-known celebrity's image.

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Frank Ayres

16 years ago

Originally Posted by misako

Are you able to delete this thread now? Thanks..i dont want to report to the admin. Wouldn't want to hurt your reputation..Its not a good feeling, now i know. Kindly delete this thread, thanks..

I cant deleted a thread only admins can.
Why would it ruin my reputation anyway?

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steven90210 16 years ago

Originally Posted by SpudDS

I cant deleted a thread only admins can.
Why would it ruin my reputation anyway?

I think what she meant was what if something untoward happened to you, and your name and reputation was caught in it..

Likewise, I reckon her reputation is very much at stake here, since if she launches another WSO her credibility might not be as good since this happened.

At the very least, try to have a little empathy? After all, her image has already been tainted enough because of this incident, and I'm not sure how it will affect her IM ventures in the short run..

Just my 2 cents worth

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steven90210

16 years ago

Originally Posted by kcartlidge

I appreciate this must feel awful Misako. As you've been upfront in admitting the cause and the fault (regardless of contention over actual responsibility) would it not be more helpful to write a simple post in the form of 'this is something to avoid in the future' then have the thread locked, so it can remain as a useful reminder to anyone?

After all, such lessons are surely part of the aim of the forum aren't they?

Yeah seems like a good idea.

Forums are for us to learn and for all to improve together

Cheer up Misako! Lesson learnt, let's move on..

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sevenish 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

Well if she outsourced then the responsiblity lies in the person who wrote the testimonial. Thats my point.

the sales letter doesn't have the designer's name on it, it has her name on it. It's her responsibility. Who did the actual work is immaterial.

There's also a little habit in copy writing and journalism called fact-checking, the responsibility for which lies with the organization that owns or otherwise allows the information to be published or broadcast.

Edit: as an example, if a journalist at the BBC makes an inaccurate or false statement, the responsibility does not lie with that journalist legally; it lies with the BBC.
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ExRat

16 years ago

Hi Imran,

But I hope she can put this behind us and the Admins can delete this thread.

Its no good bashing someones reputation because Misako is a honest warrior and all her time and effort is hard work.

Unnecessarily defensive comment Imran. No-one has bashed Misako or her reputation.

The more you say, the more people might start wondering about all of the identities involved and the connections between them.

Well if she outsourced then the responsiblity lies in the person who wrote the testimonial. Thats my point.

Do you think that that's how a court of law would see it if Fern Britton decided to take action over the unauthorised use of her identity for a testimonial?

No they wouldn't. So think about what you're saying.

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Desmond Ong

16 years ago

Hi Misako,

You should never outsource anything that is as important as a salespage as this will affects your reputation.

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sevenish

16 years ago

Originally Posted by misako

How was i to know that he was faking it all along?

Aww, you're right. There's absolutely no way for you to have followed up on this. Nope. No way. Nosirreee. Totally impossible.

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steven90210

16 years ago

In all fairness yeah, it was kinda stupid to do that but I knew Misako for quite some time and you guys have no idea how much she's been helping me or encouraging me in my IM ventures.

We all make stupid mistakes sometimes, but what's most important is we learn from them yeah? I'm sure Misako, and a newbie like myself can learn what to do and what not. We're all learning here aren't we? As long as we learn from our mistakes or others mistakes and not repeat them they're doing great in my book.

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B3n

16 years ago

'Misako' - you should've just said your site was hacked and that the hackers replaced real images with doctored ones. That 'excuse' has been used before on the WF!

(I'll expect a nuisance phonecall any second from a private number...)

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Trader54

16 years ago

Or did the person that did the work for you think it was a honest testimonial, and perhaps that person used a picture they got from the web.

Just another way to keep passing the buck.

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Frank Murphy

16 years ago

He seems uncontactable at the moment..maybe he has learnt that his cover his blown, thats why he is not coming out to admit his misdoings. But its a harsh lesson learnt for me. Never to blindly trust anyone..Not everyone is honest!

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oneempowered 16 years ago

This behavior is shocking! ... Someone actually reads testimonials?
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B3n

16 years ago

Originally Posted by misako

02-04-2009, 06:11 AM
Hidman has contacted the freelancer, gave him a earfull, and demanded a refund

02-04-2009, 08:33 AM
He seems uncontactable at the moment..maybe he has learnt that his cover his blown, thats why he is not coming out to admit his misdoings

Make up your mind!

An old saying - "when you're stuck in a hole, stop digging"

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Frank Murphy 16 years ago

What i meant was Hidman emailed him but hes not replying..
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