This Google Change Could be Interesting

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Notice of change

March 1, 2012 is when the new Privacy Policy and Google Terms of Service will come into effect. If you choose to keep using Google once the change occurs, you will be doing so under the new Privacy Policy and Terms of Service.

Google says its replacing 60 policies with one that is short and easier to read. Advertised as creating a beautifully simple and intuitive experience - this should be interesting. Simple sounds good... but "intuitive"?

Is that like "you agree we have the right to show you only what we think you should know"? Will the "privacy" statement be changed to "none"? Another ride on the Big G roller coaster.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarlboroMonkey
    should be interesting for sure. Google is the Gaga of the internet world. Everyone wondering what that crazy bi**h is gonna do next.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    My wild guess is that it will be open to even more interpretation by them, so they can do what they want even more with regards to user accounts.

    But maybe I'm wrong...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Google is only simplifying things so they can create a bigger "grey area" and interpret things the way they see them whether it be right or wrong. Google talks about user experience but if Google were truly out for "user experience" then they would not have an advertising business because everyone hates ads.

    Some would say "yeah but Google can do what it wants, it's their business"... No they cannot, ever since they became a publicly traded company they have to answer to their shareholders and a myriad of rules.

    So be prepared for the s*#t to hit the fan in the future because this may come across as something good right now but wait for it... Google has a plan up their sleeve, guaranteed!
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  • Profile picture of the author Geraldm
    Well whatever Google are playing at it cannot be good for the end user!
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  • Profile picture of the author seoaceindia
    google is one of the best search engine in the world and every one exiting for what next from google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pamellalovely
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Google says its replacing 60 policies with one that is short and easier to read. Advertised as creating a beautifully simple and intuitive experience - this should be interesting. Simple sounds good... but "intuitive"?

    Is that like "you agree we have the right to show you only what we think you should know"? Will the "privacy" statement be changed to "none"? Another ride on the Big G roller coaster.
    Yes, offcourse Google is the top class search engine and which google have change their policy it will will interesting and good...
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  • It will be interesting to see how they evolve in the next few years with Facebook continuing to make bold moves.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Google is out of my game plan, and has been for years, for obvious reasons.
    I'd rather prefer to control my own business than have a 3rd party company
    Control it for me.

    Plus It's so much stress free not having to be heavily dependant on other companies.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    One of many expected upcoming changes with Google

    It's hard to factor Google out from any online business since its policies do affect anyone and everyone who has any online presence at all. It will be interesting as well as essential to see how their policies shape out in the near future.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I wonder how these continual changes (and many of them bad at that) have been affecting Google in the stock exchange?
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    • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      I wonder how these continual changes (and many of them bad at that) have been affecting Google in the stock exchange?
      See for yourself.

      GOOG Historical Prices | Google Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance

      Still trading at an absolutely insane price per share if you ask me.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

        See for yourself.

        GOOG Historical Prices | Google Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance

        Still trading at an absolutely insane price per share if you ask me.
        Yeah I had a look at that. Funny how its viewable in "Yahoo"

        I guess people will continue investing their money towards the business regardless.

        I really wish (more than anything) that there was more even-ness in the search engine marketplace.
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        • Profile picture of the author celente
          Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

          Yeah I had a look at that. Funny how its viewable in "Yahoo"

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          Never thought about it like that. Classic!

          The stockmarket is very strong at the moment. Not many red day in 2012 so far.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            I was wondering if google is covering its collective butt.

            The changes recently have raised some questions and some eyebrows. Could the answer be to change TOC and Privacy Policy with as many gray areas and wide open highways as possible? More ways to drive the big info trucks through and if anyone cries "manipulation of results" google can just point to article 7.a.3 in its terms where you agreed that google does what it wants with info you provide through your search behavior.

            Of course - maybe they are just making things easier for us little guys:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author J Bold
        Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

        See for yourself.

        GOOG Historical Prices | Google Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance

        Still trading at an absolutely insane price per share if you ask me.
        True but that doesn't tell the whole story. Google's stock took an 8% drop on Friday due to not meeting earnings forecasts, with quarterly reports that were not expected.

        Google Earnings Disappoint In Rare Miss - WSJ.com

        But yeah, I'm sure they're still doing pretty well, considering. I don't think anyone would mind being someone who had their stock from the very beginning.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryannull
    I think the average user is feed up with Google and their services. I suspect that most will start seeking alternative services. No one likes being spied on.

    Google has got to big for itself, and in the end, we will be the ones that suffer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Not too shabby... If you had invested $10,000 into Google stock in 2004 when it was $100 a share you would have a nice $58,093 as of today...

    What was my dad thinking... Instead he invested heavily into RIM... Dough! (slap forehead)
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    They do watch. Not about cross platform, however, it was sort of weird to me today when I was helping a client set up a new gmail account. I asked him what he wanted to use for a password and it was a Biblical Scripture, Book/chapter/verse. The capcha code "to make sure you are not a robot" was SPIRITUAL.

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  • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
    Maybe this has something to do with a change in policy, Kay.

    Google on Tuesday said it will begin tracking people as they use Google search and Gmail, watch YouTube videos and use other Google services -- at their computers and on their mobile devices.
    Google to merge user data across more services
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  • Profile picture of the author NicheMayhem
    I just hope they stop guessing what I am going to search for and LET ME TYPE! ...probably not going to happen though in light of their history and the articles y'all posted here.

    I really hate it when I type something into Google, press enter and the text in the box changes. I CAN TYPE IT MYSELF!

    Glad I got that out, lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick_Kelly
    My thinking is that Google is going to make their terms and conditions more ambiguous so they have more latitude for legal interpretation when they decide to do something that some might find worrying.

    And the integration of data makes it more straightforward for them to profile their users - because at the end of the day, it is all about profits for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul_1
    Well, this sure is interesting... Almost everyone, if not all uses Google. I guess there's nothing we can do right now till it will be revealed to us Hope it's for the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Personally I've stopped caring what Google does. As soon as I stopped using them as my main traffic driver... It felt like a huge weight lifted off my shoulders.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    It looks more to me like Google is changing its Privacy Policy to a NO Privacy Policy

    Starting on March 1, Google will allow itself to share your personal information across Google services, as long as you're signed in.

    Google previously had 60 separate privacy policies for different products. Now, it's got just one.

    Among the changes:

    Google can now look at what you've been doing on YouTube, Gmail, and Google+ to suggest search results and "more relevant ads."

    Google can take information you provide on your Google Profile, including your name and photo, and use it on all your other Google products like Gmail -- and can replace past names you used, so you're the same on all sites.

    Google will collect information from your mobile device, including your phone number, and associate it with your Google Account.

    Here's the most relevant bit pulled from the full policy:

    We use the information we collect from all of our services to provide, maintain, protect and improve them, to develop new ones, and to protect Google and our users. We also use this information to offer you tailored content – like giving you more relevant search results and ads.

    We may use the name you provide for your Google Profile across all of the services we offer that require a Google Account. In addition, we may replace past names associated with your Google Account so that you are represented consistently across all our services. If other users already have your email, or other information that identifies you, we may show them your publicly visible Google Profile information, such as your name and photo.

    Read more: NICE TIMING: Google Announced A Big Change To Its Privacy Policy Right When Apple Announced Earnings
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Just noticed CNN is covering the changes at google - along with experts fussing over why antitrust doesn't apply, etc.

      Apparently quite a bit of user kickback on this change already. When one person on the news coverage pointed out google is used because other search engines like Bing don't return the same quality search results - another pointed out that if floods of people leave google the other engines will probably improve rapidly to keep those people there.

      That would be a sight to see. I always think companies have a right to set terms as they please but some big companies have been hurt by bad decisions at least in the short term. "New Coke" and "Netflix" ring a bell?

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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        I always think companies have a right to set terms as they please but some big companies have been hurt by bad decisions at least in the short term. "New Coke" and "Netflix" ring a bell?

        kay
        I never drank New Coke because I like Pepsi, but as a Netflix customer, I just shook my head. I couldn't believe it when after all the flack about the price and packaging changes, they wanted to split the services to another site. That one floored me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    All Hail King Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    If only they would continue with positive changes rather than self promoting policies such as Search Plus Your World and giving extra juice for having a Google+ button.
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  • Profile picture of the author wrongnumber
    Google is not a search engine... Its a giant... and it has its own priorities... Its basically a Data Mining Company... It provides You with free and quality products to lure you into a much bigger a trap... IMers have been doing this on a very small scale... Give people a quality eBook/Software and get their Name and Email for their future campaigns...

    They provide you with search, so their cookie keeps a track of what you do on the internet (except for China) 90% of the world starts browsing internet with Google...

    Then they provided you with platforms like youtube, g+, knols, etc so that whatever you did was on google.

    Then they provided you with the browser software so whatever you browse is under the scan (Chrome has a whopping 35%-40% browser share)

    Next they gave you a mobile OS so that they can pin point you everywhere.

    They have such detailed profiles of yours that even the FBI and CIA are short of data. They must be having a detailed record of each and every person. like:
    • what you do?
    • where you live?
    • what is your expenses?
    • when do you get up?
    • when do you sleep?
    • whom all do you live with?
    • what are your shortcomings?
    • what are you good at?
    • what is the latest thing you are working upon?
    • when did you last go to the supermarket?
    • what was your last purchase?
    • if you bought a phone... you must be needing talktime plans?...
    • whats your friend tree?
    • what's your family bacground
    • .....
    • ...........
    • ......................
    • ............................

    The list is far beyond your imagination, and I may sound paranoid... but its the truth... soon google will start occupy gadgets at your home... if you recently bought a SMART TV then it is already loaded with Google Android... so they know what channels you watch... we will soon have (I can bet on it)Android based vacuum cleaners and washing machines, then cars, home lighting, pretty much everything...

    They are just going to make all this legal....

    Cheers Guys... you are just Sims inside a Google World.
    PS: on a side note snooping so much just on the pretext of customized ads sounds a bit... _______ you tell me the word!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tessa Holmes
    Google privacy changes. Facebook privacy changes (think Timeline update). Both happening almost at the same time. Looks like both giants are trying to get deeper into people's social lives to win advertising dollars before other side won it.
    One of the problems that could come from Google - if you make mistake in one of Google network sites and Google decides to punish you - all your Google 'elife' is going to be scrambled and possibly deleted. I would try to avoid keeping my information on 'Google-only' sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jool
      Originally Posted by Tessa Holmes View Post

      Google privacy changes. Facebook privacy changes (think Timeline update). Both happening almost at the same time. Looks like both giants are trying to get deeper into people's social lives to win advertising dollars before other side won it.
      One of the problems that could come from Google - if you make mistake in one of Google network sites and Google decides to punish you - all your Google 'elife' is going to be scrambled and possibly deleted. I would try to avoid keeping my information on 'Google-only' sites.
      ugh. this is what they always say: God forgives, Google doesn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    We have Lego to blame for all of this.


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      the mark of the beast

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      • Profile picture of the author Tessa Holmes
        Thanks to this forum I found out about "Scroogle". It is pretty cool idea and I am going to be using it now to avoid 'Big Brother' looking over my shoulder.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Gee, I log out when I'm not checking my gmail - which I never use for business accounts, it's mostly stuff that is just a tad less than spam. If they want to follow me in the real world they are going to get real frustrated. They will need to send someone out to follow me around. I still use cash whenever possible to purchase. I have no cell phones or smart tv's. Can I assume the next crank call I get asking about if my toilet paper matches my underwear is google trying to fill in the blanks?
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  • Profile picture of the author I.M.Retired
    Sal: They ARE following you around. Your brain has been hotwired to Google without your knowing it.

    (And just for the record - I certainly hope that your toilet paper does match your underwear - it's all the rage these days, you know!)

    “The ultimate search engine is something as smart as people—or smarter,” Page said in a speech a few years back. “For us, working on search is a way to work on artificial intelligence.”

    In a 2004 interview with Newsweek, Brin said:

    “Certainly if you had all the world's information directly attached to your brain, or an artificial brain that was smarter than your brain, you'd be better off.”

    Last year, Page told a convention of scientists that Google is “really trying to build artificial intelligence and to do it on a large scale.”
    Maybe we should all switch to DuckDuckGo - whoever they are, since their domain info is private. Google in disguise maybe???

    Or Don Busca, search with style - except ol' Don is powered by Google.

    Or foofle . com - Oops, there they are again.

    Dang - they've got us no matter where we turn. The consummate search engine game of chess.

    Now, if you really want to scare yourself, read this: (Not an affiliate link...)

    Amazon.com: Search &amp; Destroy: Why You Can't...Amazon.com: Search &amp; Destroy: Why You Can't...
    Here's the blurb:

    This is the other side of the Google story. In Search & Destroy, Google expert Scott Cleland, shows that the world's most powerful company is not who it pretends to be.

    Google pretends to be a harmless lamb, but chose a full-size model of a Tyrannosaurus Rex as its mascot. Beware the T-Rex in sheep's clothing.

    Google has acquired far more information, both public and private, and has invented more ways to use it, than anyone in history. Information is power, and in Google's case, it's the power to influence and control virtually everything the Internet touches. Google's power is largely unchecked, unaccountable and grossly underestimated. Google is the Internet's lone superpower, the new master of the digital information universe. And Google's power depends almost entirely on the blind trust it has gained through masterful duplicity. Google routinely says one thing and does another.

    Cleland proves the world's #1 brand untrustworthy. He exposes the unethical company hiding behind a Don't Be Evil slogan. He uncovers Google's hidden political agenda. And he reveals how Google's famed mission to organize the world's information is destructive and wrong. Cleland is the first to critically examine where Google is leading us, explain why we don t want to go there, and propose straightforward solutions.

    Google's unprecedented centralization of power over the world's information is corrupting both Google and the Internet, a natural result of unchecked power. Google is evolving from an information servant to master, from working for users, to making users work for the Internet behemoth.

    Search & Destroy conclusively demonstrates that Google's goal is to change the world by influencing and controlling information access. Ultimately, Google's immense unchecked power is destructive precisely because Google is so shockingly-political, unethical and untrustworthy.
    As soon as I post this I'm going to take my computer out into the back yard and bury it.
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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Google says its replacing 60 policies with one that is short and easier to read. Advertised as creating a beautifully simple and intuitive experience - this should be interesting. Simple sounds good... but "intuitive"?

    Is that like "you agree we have the right to show you only what we think you should know"? Will the "privacy" statement be changed to "none"? Another ride on the Big G roller coaster.
    "Intuitive" as in "If the salesman's lips are moving then he is lying"?
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