How can the new Google privacy policy be legal?

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Google may associate your device identifiers or phone number with your Google Account.

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When you use our services or view content provided by Google, we may automatically collect and store certain information in server logs. This may include:
  • details of how you used our service, such as your search queries.
  • telephony log information like your phone number, calling-party number, forwarding numbers, time and date of calls, duration of calls, SMS routing information and types of calls.
Why would Google collect my phone number, WHOM i call, time and date, duration and "type of call"?

Are you kidding me?
#google #legal #privacy
  • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
    Goog has said that If u use them then u r under their TOS...
    now its ur decision whether will u use them or not....
    They r a big multi billion $ incorporation...so what they do is correct
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  • Profile picture of the author jficarro
    Google pretty much runs the world, so get used to it. I'm surprised the government isn't more openly scared of them. If they wanted they could shut the world down.

    I'm sure it's a coincidence. But since the privacy change, I've gotten two phone calls from companies claiming I won something or had been entered into some sweepstakes thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
      Originally Posted by jficarro View Post

      I'm sure it's a coincidence. But since the privacy change, I've gotten two phone calls from companies claiming I won something or had been entered into some sweepstakes thing.
      Coincidence

      With my previous phone (number) I used to get such calls weekly: a foghorn scared me first and then a crazy woman (recording) told me I won a cruise trip, LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        I'm not fond of the new privacy policy at all, however...
        Google pretty much runs the world, so get used to it. I'm surprised the government isn't more openly scared of them. If they wanted they could shut the world down.
        That's just silly talk. If Google disappeared tomorrow, many of us would just switch to Bing or Yahoo and get on with things as though nothing had happened.

        Two months later, everyone but the folks who've built their businesses around their search results would hear the name and think, "Whoogle?"


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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
        Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

        Coincidence

        With my previous phone (number) I used to get such calls weekly: a foghorn scared me first and then a crazy woman (recording) told me I won a cruise trip, LOL
        I got that one too! I just got that the one the other day. I was wondering where they got my number!

        I don't have a land line, so it was on my cell phone. Same number I've had since 1999. I've protected it well and now that stupid foghorn came blaring through!
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    • Profile picture of the author Iriss
      Originally Posted by jficarro View Post

      Google pretty much runs the world
      Really? How sure are you about that? Hmm, let's see.

      A) Remove Google from the World. The world is still ok.

      B) Remove people from the World. Google becomes extinct on day 1.

      I rest my case.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glen1
    when you're the biggest guy in the playground you can pretty much do whatever you want...
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    I do not have an Android phone, but is this information available now in a Google account if you have a Google OS powered phone?

    If not, then you likely see a future service where Google anticipates becoming your phone provider.

    This looks like information similar to what is available in my AT&T account.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Yeah ... with their new NO privacy policy, I don't really like the fact that my Gmail acct is on the phone and now will be "shared" amongst all their other services that I use. I'm sure I'll be delivered Mobile Ads that coincide with my browsing habits. Who knows ... perhaps text message spam also.
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    • Profile picture of the author advertisethis
      What's unfortunate is that Microsoft, via its various sub-entities (Bing, Yahoo, Hotmail, Live), could probably overtake Google's majority market-share just by publicizing that they DON'T do that -- in contrast to Google, but they insist on doing the same thing. 25% or so market share of the Privacy-Infringement New World Order currently being ushered in is more valuable to them than a 75% market share of a market that values consumer privacy protections. It is unfortunate, indeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    who knows how this will affect service, it is a time will tell type of thing in my opinion.

    With Bing trying to gain ground, I think that if Google does anything that gets too many complaints, they might change it.

    and who knows, maybe it was a government thing in the first place. hmmmmmm.......
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Maybe the FTC will put the breaks on Google

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...cy-accord.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Lee Jr
    It's just Google's way of letting you know they can do what they want and get away with it
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      I feel foolish using all their free services, Gmail, YouTube, Google Docs, Google Voice, etc. and now that I'm in deep they switch their privacy policy so they can basically do anything they want with my personal information and data.
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    • Profile picture of the author GMD
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      A lot of people refuse to believe that there's money in collecting, storing, and sharing information. This is yet one more way for Google to make some money.

      That being written, people have to start LEARNING in detail about the "free" services that they are using.

      That means reading the terms of service, the privacy statements, and all other sources of information that relate to Google services/products.

      This information will show you where you stand and in most cases, how you can "opt out".

      People seem to come into all these situations with the attitude that they "have the right" to use certain products and services -- but it's not Burger King: you can't always have it "your way". You have a decision as to whether or not you use these services (regardless of how engrained they've become into the fabric of our online experiences).

      Finally, the OP asks, how can this be "legal"?

      It doesn't necessarily have to be "legal" for them to make a policy change. In fact, there are many "terms of services" out there that probably have a lot of "illegal" aspects to them -- but they stay as is until somebody challenges them in court.

      Important to remember: just because Google, or PayPal, or Microsoft, or Apple (insert any number of companies here) decide to "make a change" doesn't mean it's legal -- it only means the company, as a whole, has decided to change something and put it in writing. In most cases, if their in house counsel has done their jobs, this stuff will clearly fall into white and grey areas of the law. In other words, they have a legal leg to stand on.

      Bottom line: educate yourself about the services you're using if you're concerned about certain or all aspects of your privacy. If you disagree vehemently with something stop using the service, engage in some activity to change what you disagree with, or find an alternative that you can live with.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Ever notice what ever you doing there is a very targeted ad waiting at the next bend in the corner waiting for you.

    Soon you will think crap, and there will be an ad for toilet paper waiting on the next page you click, pretty well you think it / type it , search for it and there will be an instant flow of related ads follow you until you start to think / do another thing where it will start all over again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    Ron Swanson was right...

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      Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

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        lol no I didnt but I love that one.


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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Clay
    This just sounds like an opportunity for someone else to go up against Google and actually win. Remember when everyone took action against SOPA and it got knocked down (for a least a little while)? Let's Bing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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    Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

    Why would Google collect my phone number, WHOM i call, time and date, duration and "type of call"?

    Are you kidding me?
    For the same reason your phone company/cell phone company do the same thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    Indeed, it's their company, their rules. If you don't like it - use another search engine.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Henshaw
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      Originally Posted by jficarro
      Google pretty much runs the world

      Really? How sure are you about that? Hmm, let's see.

      A) Remove Google from the World. The world is still ok.

      B) Remove people from the World. Google becomes extinct on day 1.

      I rest my case.
      I fully agree with that sentiment. If Google disappeared, or I stopped using them; there would be some inconvenience for me. But I could survive it. For many with Google accounts who can't recover from such a 'disaster', I feel sorry for you.

      Everyone should have a contingency (back up) plan, especially if you are in business. If you are naive enough to put all of your eggs in one basket (say - Google) - then make darn sure that you either don't drop the basket, or let someone else (say - Google) carry your basket.

      Personally I think that this whole issue has been blown up out of all proportions. Time will tell though.

      Just my thoughts,
      Jeff.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Yknow, Im guilty of just clicking on the "Whatever" button when prompted with Google's new TOS, and this is probably exactly what they're counting on.

    Reading this thread has enlightened me.

    Im not comfortable at all with sharing my mobile phone, and call details with anyone. Period.

    Ive always found that prompt when logging into my Google account to be quite concerning .."Would you like to associate your mobile number with this account?"

    No I wouldnt!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Sneen
    No doubt about it Google is top dog on the internet. There is little we can do about it. But, it is wise to watch and be ready to react to whatever they do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Daniels
    Google is just beginning, soon they will be like facebook...
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  • Profile picture of the author mysterrio
    I wonder what would happen if you listed your google voice number as your phone number with google? Now, I know Google would still have you number in the google voice BUT would they give out your real number to that third party or your google voice number? Hummmm...
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    I'm still trying to find out how to opt out, they have it so complicated in there that its not funny.
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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      Exactly why I don't use:

      Webmaster tools
      Analytics
      Gmail
      Google docs

      etc... etc...

      Thank you for offering all those "Free" services. (Wish I would have thought of it first )

      But...

      This world doesn't have enough privacy as it is without making it as easy as possible for Google to feed on me.

      Unfortunately they still make up some of my PPC...
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      • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
        [QUOTE=Unfortunately they still make up some of my PPC...[/QUOTE]

        Not mine, I quit using there adsense and adwords last year and glad I did.
        I did not see much a drop by using affiliate links and other means of Monetization. I also didn't see a drop in traffic or seo results using other means.

        I would say maybe 1 to 2 percent total in all.
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