Question? If You Never Create a Profitable Online Business, Who's Fault Is It??

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I'm curious to know what my fellow warriors think about this question.


Hope It Helps Spark Insightful Discussion!


TL

Ps. I don't expect a lot of view to this thread because most people are afraid of the question. But if you opened this thread you are to be commended for having the courage to deal with reality.
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  • Here's my personal belief -- those who find success in business and in life don't just take credit for their success, they also take FULL responsibility for their failures. (And failures are not really failures unless you quit -- they're lessons.)

    Read lots of posts on this forum, and you'll see people say:

    I don't have time.

    I don't have the money.

    I don't have a list of JV partners.

    I have kids -- you don't understand what it's like to work when you have to attend to the kids.

    It's much harder now than it was before.

    You had to start years ago if you want success.

    The niche dried up.

    The recession ruined my business.

    My traffic died because Google changed the rules.

    The marketer stiffed me and didn't pay me my commissions.

    The freelancer ripped me off.

    My launch was ruined because my payment processor / JV partners / freelancers didn't do their part.

    ...and I could go on and on.

    The point is, people who continually say these things believe someone else or something else is to blame. They don't look at themselves. And if they don't see themselves as being in control of their business and their life, how can they expect to see success? Why even try... especially if they don't believe they have any control over outside factors?

    The person who sees success is the one who takes responsibility. Instead of saying...

    "My traffic died because Google changed the rules." The successful person might say instead, "I should have diversified my traffic streams so that I didn't lose all my traffic when Google changed their rules."

    Another example:

    "The marketer stiffed me and didn't pay me my commissions." The successful person might say, "I should have researched this vendor more thoroughly and started small rather than immediately plunging $1500 into advertising this product."


    Food for thought.

    cheers,
    Becky
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    • Thanks for the real world examples Becky.

      There is a massive difference in the mindset of those that find success and those that never do and taking full responsibility is a characteristic of successful people.

      Now, 4 or 5 years ago I really don't think anyone could be blamed for not finding success but now I sincerely believe there are no excuses.

      TL
    • Diddo!

      The last person to blame should be your prospects.

      It's up to you to learn how to get enough of them to do what you need them to do in order for you to make a decent and consistent profit from your efforts.

      Sure it can be tough out there, but growing up, practicing good online business and accepting total responsibility is the mature way of handling your online business.

      TL
    • Becky has hit the nail on the head. There's really nothing more to say, except that by blaming anyone, you give the power of that situation away. By taking responsibility, you take control.
  • yeah, nice becky.

    unfortunately most people will point the finger at everything and
    everyone else instead of looking in the mirror and taking personal
    responsibility.

    Jim Collins talks about this in Good To Great. He calls it the window and the mirror.

    The Good To Great executives always gave credit to everyone else when things went right, but always took FULL responsibility when things went wrong.

    The comparison company excecutives took ALL the credit when things went
    right, but pointed the finger at everyone else, taking NO personal responsibility, when
    things went wrong.

    Jason
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    • Taking responsibility does include doing it for the good times and the bad times.

      If you have the right set of attitudes, a decent plan, you don't mind taking strategic action and you keep your expenses low while testing your offers, sooner or later you will the battle and then the war for control of your financial life.

      TL
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    Absolutely brilliant post TLTheLiberator.

    This is what separates the "winners" from the "losers." People who are successful take 100% responsibility for their outcomes in life. This isn't an easy concept to swallow because it means that all your "failures" are down to you. But it's incredibly powerful and liberating once you get used to it.

    Personally it took me a while to truly practice it but I'm glad that I did. Because now I never blame anyone or anything for my "failures."
  • Here's my take on your question:

    If you never create a profitable online business, the only person to blame is you.

    Becky (R. Hagel) does a wonderful job outlining excuses people have for not making it online...

    But...

    Most people don't realize that operating an online business is just like operating a "brick and mortar" business ...

    1) You have to treat your online business as a business. You can't just pop up a website, post a few articles, go to Starbucks for a latte, and then come back and expect an extra $10,000 sitting in your account.

    2) You have to focus and test, test, test. See what works and what doesn't. There are plenty of ways to market for free online. But it takes time. If you have capital, invest some of it in paid advertising (like adwords) because the fact of the matter is...paid advertising brings the quickest response rate.

    3) If you were running a real business, would you devote 10-12 hours a day to make it work...no TV, no fridge, no couch...AND be willing to work on weekends if necessary?

    My point is that many people fail and quit because they do not know how to run a business. They see the promise of riches, fame and glamour without work, and it's simply not true.

    Remember that the dictionary is the only place where success comes before work.

    If a person doesn't have the mindset to run a "brick and mortar", what difference is an online business?

    This is my opinion. Please feel free to comment or criticize.

    Pavon
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    • You said it all.

      I was talking to someone the other day about work ethic. Myself, I worked construction, deep-sea dragging, and a few other exhausting jobs in my life. I actually got off on digging ditches (either masochistic or Irish DNA). This Internet gig is the easiest job I've ever done in my life. Yes, I will pull a 16-18 hour day at times to get a project done, but compared to avoiding being killed on a deep-sea dragger where you worked around the clock with 20 minute catnaps, this is pretty cushy.

      If you're not willing to work, there's no magic button that's going to make you money for doing nothing.
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  • if your buisness never takes off the failing economy could be a major reason for it not working out. lots of people are spending less and less money each year. imo the internet marketing buisness has gone down in the past few months. it had been going on an upward trend for awhile
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      That's the bitch about taking 100% responsibility for your outcomes in life. You can't blame outside factors like the global economy. Because there are plenty of people new to Internet Marketing that are profiting handsomely.
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      AruthurRose I'm not interested in arguing with you. I'm completely entitled to live my life however I choose. I'm sorry if you don't like my concept or don't agree with it. But that's your problem. I let other people decide how they want to live and I deserve the same respect in return.

      Personally I've experienced having my life ruined. Many times actually. I suffer from "Integration Disorder" which is also known as "Paranoid Schizophrenia." (We use that term because of ignorance and prejudice.)

      Try dealing with that. Because I can tell you it's much more difficult than losing your job and most other things people consider to be "difficult."
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  • If its going to be its up to ME!
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    • I like the saying along the lines of:

      "When you point the figure of blame at someone else, look where three of your other fingers are pointing".

      I guess that sums it up pretty well really.
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  • * The government's
    * Your parents'
    * Your spouse's
    * Illegal Immigrants
    * George Bush's
    * The world's
    * God's
    * Satan's
    * Genetics
    * Bad Luck
    * The neighbor who keeps having loud sex upstairs while you're trying to work
    * the neighbor who rearranges his furniture at 2 AM while you're trying to sleep
    * The police doing random drug searches in your house
    * Hitler's

    I'll post more as soon as I think of them. I'm bound to find out whose fault it is that I'm not making much money sooner or later!
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    • That's quite a list and I hope you're not being serious.

      What I meant by sooner or later was that all it takes is a bit of testing to find a process that works for you or anyone else.

      It all starts with a online business model right?

      These days, we are able to test anything we want quite cheaply and quickly.

      TL
  • I honestly believe its down to you and you alone. Yes some other factors outside of your control can have effects on the direction your business is going, but its you who needs to get your head down and work out a resolution. As the saying go's, "S##t happens, deal with it.".
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      Yeah that's the basic premise of taking 100% responsibility for your life, Mmacken.

      The truth is that life isn't fair.

      Bad things happen to good people. But it's our responsibility to make the most of every situation, every challenge, every setback, and every failure, and keep striving forward with our dreams, hopes, and ambitions--blaming nothing and no one when we fail--because that's our responsibility also.

      I couldn't recommend enough that people start taking 100% responsibility for their lives.

      Like I mentioned sometimes that's a bitter pill to swallow (especially when you've experienced as much failure as I have) but in the end it's well worth it and you'll be much more successful for having the courage to do so.

    • There are always factors that can disrupt your online business but it's up to you to deal with them as they present themselves.

      and...

      It won't hurt to be proactive in order to prevent probs from popping up also.

      TL

  • Straight from a man of letters.

    If you're a one man operation, that means you.



    TL

  • Granted but don't we take responsibility for product selection also??


    TL
  • Perhaps the problem with the question (if I can call it a problem), is using the word "fault". After all, the fact you have at least tried to set up an online business means you aren't just giving up and let the world walk over you.

    There are a million things we could attribute as "faults". But the only fault is to give up. OK so maybe an online business is not your niche, but I feel that everyone has at least one thing in them that they can be really good at.

    So I would say no-one's fault. It's just life haha!
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    • You're right, if a person never gives up they have not truly failed but accepting responsibility for everything in your business life is a great start to the path of success.

      This is a golden age as far as tools, resources and the how to knowledge base is concerned.

      Accept full responsibility for your fate and get strategically busy building your online business.

      TL
  • We are destined to get there when we are destined to get there. Sometimes it just isn't in the cards, now or ever. If it were easy and guaranteed, then it wouldn't be worth achieving.
  • Would agree that it takes dedication and devotion to ensure success, particularly in internet marketing, I completely agree. Investing the right amount of time to begin with in setting up and establishing a quality reputation is always the key to success. All success rarely comes without effort, keep at it, and make sure that you have chosen one method or plan and stick to it!
  • It's mines.

    It doesn't matter if it's online or offline, it's ALWAYS my fault.

    I used to be a professional "blame game" player, but I realized
    I was getting no where. Life and business became a joy when
    I started taking responsibility for my mistakes, trials and errors.

    Becuase now I could LEARN from them. You can't learn from
    something if you give that power to someone else. But if you
    take credit for your success AND your failures, you're 10 steps
    closer to winning the game.
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    • I blame rap music. And whatever political party is in power. And El Nino.
  • Ultimately, a lot of it comes down to a couple of personal traits - persistence and optimism... Persistence in that you are willing to do whatever it takes and not give up (Calvin Coolidge has a great quote about persistence).... And optimism because it takes optimism to keep starting even though you might have failed in the past. And, generally I have noticed that a lot of people immediately jump to criticism and start pointing out all the reasons that something wont work - this gives them an excuse to not even try.
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    • My fault completely. Those that are out to blame others simply won't succeed in this business.

      That's usually because failures are the things that show successful marketers what NOT to do.

      I think every one else here has covered everything else I wanted to say...
  • What is up with all the fault seeking?

    Why would someone think of finding fault?

    Those who are fault seekers do so to justify failure.

    With a fault seeking attitude one can never succeed.

    For those of you who have not yet created a profitable business, instead of seeking fault (in yourself, in bad economy, in someone else) reprogram your mind - instead of seeking the answers to find who's at fault, ask yourself

    "what can I do differently?"

    "What can I learn from my experience?"

    "how can I become more successful?"

    "what do I need to learn in order to become successful?"
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    • I think it is all the Warrior Forum´s fault

      But.. I also agree with this:

      And then there is another group of people who are not into this solely for the money but for the action, excitement, hope and emotion. For them it is something of a hobby and if their projects are profitable or not is less important than if it stimulates them. The hobbyists might not know they are hobbyists just like smokers might "not know" they are addicted.

      If enjoyment of the game is what matters, the more those projects bounce back and forth all the time between profit and loss the bigger the stimulus.

      I put forth the notion that the vast majority of successful marketers entered the arena as hobbyists.

      The difference is they discovered that a couple of effective thrusts often provide more stimulation than the same-old back and forth.
  • The question is like saying "if you never learn to play the piano well - who's fault is it"

    There's only one answer.....

    Whatever your goal is - only YOU are responsible for reaching it. We all have excuses why other things/people can be blamed but ultimately those are influences not deciding factors.

    You only fail once you stop trying.
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    • Quick question...

      How long do you think one should keep trying before they give up at something?

      Obviously, not everyone is cut out for every task. What if someone continues trying to do something persistently for 5, 10, 15 years or more and still fails miserably? Would it be a weakness of character or intelligence if they gave up?

      (This question isn't directed at you, but everyone in the conversation.)
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  • Success resides inside ourselves.
    Don't just try. Do or die!

    And all that other good stuff that makes people keep going.
  • There are various reasons why someone would not succeed in profiting in an online business. For 1 the desire to succeed online has to be in there heart. Not just in there mind. This is the Fuel to help you find the Success You Desire. If an individual Decides to be success in marketing...noone can stop you from finding it. It's up to the YOU!
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    • There's a big difference between giving up and deciding to do something different. It would be a weakness of character if they "gave up". It would be an intelligent decision if they took responsibility for not being able to succeed at something and decided to pursue something else.

      There's no shame in recognizing that you just aren't good at something. Take Andy's example of playing the piano. Yes, with practice and application, I could learn to play the notes correctly. But I don't have the 'ear' to play at the level I would aim for. So I no longer try.

      Just because it feels good when you stop is no reason to keep beating your head against a wall...
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