How do i put a minisite onto the web using hostgator

by simosimon7 22 replies
Hi guys

Please can you help, i cant get my head around this, (newbie to IM and all that)

Reading through the forum i understand Hostgator is one of the best hosting companies to go with, so with that decision made, i have looked at the templates available and there isnt anything suitable for my business, so

I am going to ask Oki (fellow warrior) to design me a minisite, however i have to then put that minisite into a html editor so that i can then input the content, as a newbie i dont have a clue what to do.

Can i upload this minisite into a programme called site studio with hostgator, add content and then publish this to the web,

If i cant then what do i need to do, (i dont want to have to spend money on frontpage/dreamweaver etc if i can help it)

Thanks for your time guys, if i can crack this in my head i am well away (and not with the fairys)


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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    You can use a free HTML editor like: NVU. Open your minisite template in that editor and type in your text for your sales letter. Save it as an index.html file.

    Download a free FTP program like Filezilla. Establish a connection with your server using Filezilla. You will need your FTP username and password. You can get this from host gator if you don't have it.

    Once a connection is established you upload your minisite from your computer to the server with your hosting account and it will be visible.

    Make sure upload the files as they are. For example image folder with all your graphics needs to be uploaded in order to be visible.

    It might sound hard right now for you but don't worry, you'll get the hang of it. Download NVU and Filezilla and you'll get a feel for what you need to know.

    Make sure your minisite comes with HTML ready. Most minisite designers do this but others charge extra so doubel check so all you need to do is add text and upload.

    I doubt you can use host gator's site studio since that probably just works with their own templates but I'm not a 100%. You can check with host gator but I suggest you use your own HTML editor and FTP client.

    If you get stuck just come back and I or someone else will help you out.

    Alan
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    • Profile picture of the author simosimon7
      Thank you Alan

      Just the information i need, this as been doing my head in. you have just saved me a lot of time and probably a lot of money.

      will get cracking right away

      simon
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  • Profile picture of the author ecdiscounts
    Originally Posted by simosimon7 View Post

    Hi guys

    Please can you help, i cant get my head around this, (newbie to IM and all that)

    Reading through the forum i understand Hostgator is one of the best hosting companies to go with, so with that decision made, i have looked at the templates available and there isnt anything suitable for my business, so
    I would beg to differ on Hostgator being one of the best, they maybe one of the cheapest but they over sell every server to make money and as a Web Host myself I refuse to lower my standards as they do and Never oversell any of my servers. I'd rather make $5.00 a month per server on 100 servers than $500.00 a month on 100 oversold servers that scrafice Quality of Service. I have had atleast 20 new customers this month so far that were former hostgator customers because of their over selling.

    I am going to ask Oki (fellow warrior) to design me a minisite, however i have to then put that minisite into a html editor so that i can then input the content, as a newbie i dont have a clue what to do.
    Oki is a GREAT Designer, he just redid my Directresponders.com site and it looks so GOOD! There are several Free HTML editors out the and I have seen people mention NVU which I have heard is good although I use DreamWeaver myself.

    Scott
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    • Profile picture of the author simosimon7
      Sorry Ecdiscounts

      Was that a plug for your business?

      cant see where it gave me any answers to my original thread

      simon
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      • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
        simon, I am also a complete tech newbie. I have used both hostgator and bluehost; they're both equally good as far as I can tell. I have called them each, and talked to their technical support team, and in both cases the tech support guy walked me through uploading a site. I also used filezilla by the way - free, super easy. I've heard that cuteftp is good but it's not free so I stuck with filezilla. Those tech guys are amazingly helpful. And if they can help me, they can help ANYONE. So keep the hosting service's technical support guys in mind if you get stuck.
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        • Profile picture of the author simosimon7
          Thanks Dana

          much appreciate your help

          Just needed to get into my head the process before i started, i hate wasting time.

          SIMON
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        • Profile picture of the author tadale6
          Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

          simon, I am also a complete tech newbie. I have used both hostgator and bluehost; they're both equally good as far as I can tell.
          I have been with Bluehost for about 6 months now...

          Bluehost offers FREE unlimited bandwidth.

          If you are going to host a lot of images, audios and especially videos, you are going to need the unlimited bandwidth.

          Also, you get unlimited FTP... you can transfer all day long, if you want.

          Sea Monkey is my favorite FREE editor, and it is sooo easy to use.

          NOTE: Make sure to view your page in Internet Explorer and Firefox to check for inconsistencies.

          I have a template that you might like. You just need to add your page title, meta tags, keywords, and description. (capture form goes just to the right of the bulleted list)

          All the links are removed, but I left the content in place for a better viewing experience.

          TEMPLATE 1

          The landing page below is my creation, which is actually very basic.

          Your welcome to use that, if you like it.

          If you like the video, I can host it for you on my server
          (Bluehost, obviously)

          Tod
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          • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
            That is a great looking template! Does Seamonkey work with Macs? And did you design that template with Seamonkey?

            I've been very happy with Bluehost. I actually just quit using Hostgator for now, not for quality reasons but because I had used them to test out an adsense niche that wasn't converting for me so I didn't want to keep paying the monthly hosting fee. But I'd use them again.

            Originally Posted by tadale6 View Post

            I have been with Bluehost for about 6 months now...

            Bluehost offers FREE unlimited bandwidth.

            If you are going to host a lot of images, audios and especially videos, you are going to need the unlimited bandwidth.

            Also, you get unlimited FTP... you can transfer all day long, if you want.

            Sea Monkey is my favorite FREE editor, and it is sooo easy to use.

            NOTE: Make sure to view your page in Internet Explorer and Firefox to check for inconsistencies.

            I have a template that you might like. You just need to add your page title, meta tags, keywords, and description. (capture form goes just to the right of the bulleted list)

            All the links are removed, but I left the content in place for a better viewing experience.

            TEMPLATE 1

            The landing page below is my creation, which is actually very basic.

            Your welcome to use that, if you like it.

            If you like the video, I can host it for you on my server
            (Bluehost, obviously)

            Tod
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            • Profile picture of the author tadale6
              Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

              That is a great looking template! Does Seamonkey work with Macs? And did you design that template with Seamonkey?
              Template 1 was pre-formatted and edited for content in Sea Monkey.

              My current landing page (below) was from scratch in Sea Monkey.

              There is a download available for Mac users at:
              SeaMonkey: Download & Releases

              Again... check your pages in Internet Explorer and Firefox for any inconsistencies.

              Tod


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              • Profile picture of the author simosimon7
                Alan
                you have been really helpful in this thread, just waiting for Oki to deliver my minisite and i will be able to get the show on the road so to speak, I've downloaded Nvu and i've had a play about with it, seems a lot easier than i first thought thanks to your threads.

                David
                great advice thanks for taking the time to reply,

                gcjmarkets- thanks for the offer, i always learn more watching video tutorials, if we can link up that would be great.

                Thanks again guys.

                SIMON
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                • Profile picture of the author hibernate
                  Simon,
                  ecdiscounts' points are valid. I have seen reports from people with high volume sites having some downtime issues with hostgator, so he was offering an alternative.
                  For low to moderate traffic sites, most any host would do just fine. In fact I may try out hostgator for a new site (non IM) I am putting up that will have realtively low trafffic.
                  If your needs ever get more advanced, one example is liquidweb, a host company that appears highly regarded by many.
                  Good luck!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Lynette Crase
                    Hi Simon

                    I have a couple of free reports that I give away, one is on how to use NVU and the other is on how to use filezilla, that you would probably find helpful. If you would like them, just send me a PM.
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          • Profile picture of the author radicals
            Originally Posted by tadale6 View Post

            Bluehost offers FREE unlimited bandwidth.
            I hope this is not off topic, but I have to write my experience for all to benefit:

            Be very carefull with unlimited bandwidth and unlimited HD space offers. That is overselling 101, and if you, like I tried to use the unlimited bandwidth, you start to get Server 500 errors. Being a php programmer, I had a look at the code, and did a new installation on another server, different host, also shared hosting, with the same results. When I run the same software from my testbox (sandbox) or localhost, I got no errors. This made me ask some questions to the different hosts, who then turn me to the UAP (User Acceptance Policy) or their Terms. In there the limits of your use are very nicely hidden in the contract you agree to when taking up hosting. The thing that really limits you is the Memory available to the server and the CPU. In laymans terms the more visitors you have and the longer a user is on your website, the more resources you use (for example the hits you get). If you use up too much of these resources, then the host automatically stop the next process to run and send a server 500 error. This could be a user that actually wants to buy your product. For example if you get more than 25 hits at exactly the same time, then this is when you might get this error. (Hostgator is 25 hits, and that is roughly equal to 250MB of RAM on their server - could be less).

            Now imagine if they put a 100 users on that same server and they oversell!

            I ended up renting a Dedicated Server. It is much better, and I have alot of control.

            For small sites, Shared hosting at $5 should be fine. Look for a host that does not oversell. I had the frustrated users, and it took me three weeks in lost time to get to the bottom of the issue. You need to be professional though, and this is a subscription site that runs well on the dedi right now, with over 100 users at a time. We haven't monetized it fully yet, since we are busy with improvements on the site.

            Remember to read the Terms and understand where your real limits are. There is no such thing as an unlimited harddrive and unlimited bandwidth. Think about it? Something will give.

            Hope this helps.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steve_Dougherty
              Hello Simon,

              This thread is a couple of weeks old now and you probably have
              the answers you were looking for by now...but here is my 2 cents
              worth anyway

              I use Hostgator, Hostmonster, LunarPages & 1and1 and all are good
              hosting companies for my needs. But as Dana pointed out, the customer
              service from Hostgator is topnotch.

              Not only can I understand what they are saying, but more importantly,
              they can understand my 'non-techie gibberish' explanation of what the
              problem is. BTW, most of the problems were something I caused anyway.

              That was one cent of the 2 cents...

              The other one cent would be to host any bandwidth intensive items
              like videos and hi-res images on Amazon Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3)

              The cost is literally pennies - I have several gigs of videos for member
              downloads as well as streaming and I add new videos each month and
              my bill from Amazon last month was a whopping $4.83.

              If you are interested in S3, I made a video for setting up your S3 account
              and I would be happy to send you the link for it.

              Anyway, I hope this helps. The other Warriors here have provided a lot
              of great info for you, but if there is anything else you think I can help you
              with just let me know.

              Good luck and have a safe and Happy Holiday Season.
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      • Profile picture of the author ecdiscounts
        Originally Posted by simosimon7 View Post

        Sorry Ecdiscounts

        Was that a plug for your business?

        cant see where it gave me any answers to my original thread

        simon
        Actually no I wasn't plugging my Business, if I had been I would have included a URL to my web hosting service.

        I compliment on Oki's web designing skills and include the domain of the site that he just did for me if anyone wanted to check out his Excellent work.

        As for giving an answer, I think I did say there are several FREE HTML editors out there and I have heard the NVU is good although I do not use it.

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      Originally Posted by ecdiscounts View Post

      Oki is a GREAT Designer, he just redid my Directresponders.com site and it looks so GOOD! There are several Free HTML editors out the and I have seen people mention NVU which I have heard is good although I use DreamWeaver myself.

      Scott
      A second vote for Dreamweaver. I used to use NVU but Dreamweaver is what I love-very versatile.

      BTW, I am a Hostgator customer and so far haven't faced any problems with my sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    Dreamweaver is great but come on now. A bit overkill for someone who isn't technical and just wants to edit an HTML template. He doesn't need to spend $400 on Dreamweaver. A simple, basic editor like NVU will be just fine and he saves $400. If he gets more technical down the road and he outgrows NVU then fine go all out and get Dreamweaver. For now use the free HTML editor and spend the $400 on PPC to drive traffic to your new site. :-)

    Simon, I used NVU on my Niche Podcasting and my IM How To Guides site. And I have Dreamweaver (older version). Both of those were minisite designs created by designer. NVU will do the job for what you need.
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    • Profile picture of the author gcjmarkets
      Hostgator is a great hosting company, and Blue host is great to I use them both. If you are still having problems getting your site uploaded I have videos showing you the whole process if you would like to watch how it is done.

      I am not looking for business the videos are free. I know how difficult it is when your just starting. If this violates the rules please let me know and I will make a video just for you and send you the link
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      • Profile picture of the author David Birley
        There's nothing wrong with Hostgator...

        When your guy OKI sends you your mini site, he'll send you a few folders with content. One of those may be titled "site" and another "images".

        A greate way of editing these files is to use the free sftware like NVU, Seamonkey or Kompozer... They're free, but not perfect. I use dreamweaver - it's just more "stable".

        All the software listed works on Macs.

        I like actually creating a "new site" actually WITHIN the editing program, so that I can see the WHOLE SITE within that program.

        Then, you can set up the ability to upload (ftp) it online directly from your editing program...

        A couple of tips for the absolute newbie is this:

        1) When someone types in your website name into a browser e.g. http://www.yoursitename.com the browser looks for the "index.html" file and will display that.

        So, if you have /index.html and /index1.html - the default that will show is /index.html - i.e. they will have to type in http://yoursitename.com/index1.html to show the /index1.html page...

        Another thing to note is that Hostgator uses a "cpanel" type interface (which is great).

        When you're uploading your site to your hosting account, it's got to go to the folder that's called "public_html".

        This is only if your website is in what's called the "root directory" (hostgator allows you to host many domains on the same account). I.e. if you have another domain hosted on there as an "addon domain" you would upload the files to e.g. public_html/youraddonsitename

        Good on you for giving it a crack!

        I built a 10 day course with video screenshots and pdfs specifically for the Network Marketing community - on exactly this topic.

        If you think my free stuff will help you, check it out here: The MLM Resource Report - Everything You Need To Brand Yourself Online

        (That's not a pitch by the way... It just happens to contain the exact content you need, information that works for any online marketing, but is MORE tailored to home business/MLM Network Marketing)

        Hope that helps.

        Dave
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  • Here's another good free html editor with more flexibility than NVU, I like it alot.

    You can download the free version at: evrsoft.com/1stpage3.shtml
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    I use Host Gator & Host Monster. Both are pretty GOOD!
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    I think filezilla will work best.
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