Maybe you could set up a website that teaches English to people in South Korea?
You could also offer private tutoring.

Would that be possible?

Having said that, maybe you wouldn't be able to make a lot of money by doing that. I really don't know. It was just an idea.

Having 4 hours A day,You will need to concentrate on your own website/Blog to make an substantial income other than going for services.

Doing market and keyword research to begin with is essential. You might as well make it easier by having a "hungry" market ready to buy than doing more work to try to convert either a smaller market or one that is too saturated.

Once you have your market/niche/keywords, buy a domain that fits it and put up a squeeze page to build a list.

Get quality free traffic by article marketing, social marketing, etc. (search my posts because I've posted the steps before)

The key is to focus on one site at first until you get it somewhat going on autopilot. That took me about 1 month starting totally from scratch and knowing nothing technical to begin with. I made my first sale within a week though. Then I did it all over again in another niche.

It has been 4 months now and things are running pretty well, so I know, if I can do this, anyone can.

I am in the same position as James. I have a full-time job and have approx. 20 other hours per week to get my IM business growing. And like him, I am looking to build longterm success rather than just make a quick buck.

How should James and I invest our 20-28 hours per week during our initial months? Thanks!

You need to get more specific on your goals -

Exactly how much do you need your monthly income to be after 6 months?

Frank

Hey,

Since you are familiar with SEO, you have a considerable advantage in internet marketing as compared to complete newbies. Since you want to get into affiliate marketing, your first step would be to focus down to a niche and build a website in that niche. Offer something relevant to people that is free, and then build a list with peoples email addresses. Once you gain the trust of people, you can market a good product to them.

Of course, that is just one technique, and I have made it sound much easier than it is. Keep browsing these forums for new ideas and techniques, and don't hesitate to ask any specific questions you may have. I'm certain someone or the other will be able to help you out. Best of luck!

If you're good with SEO, then I would definitely go for niche websites. As you know what you're doing, you could have them ranked pretty fast and earning in less than 2 months.
Adsense combined with CPA offers should be enough to get you on your way to making that 2k/month.

Niche websites = best passive income ever

(If you want to know how to start, check out this link: smartpassiveincome.com/nichesiteduel/ , it will tell you all you need to know)

I've started to 'chunk' my time.

As an affiliate you could devote 1 hour to writing content, 1 hour to SEO and backlinking, 1 hour to getting involved in the wider community and 1 hour for brainstorming better ways to move forward.

That's just an example and you have to do what fits best with your business model. It's something I'm trying to do more of because it's very easy to get caught up with 4 hours of article writing then do nothing to get traffic, market your site and make sales.

Maybe you could start with 2 hours on driving traffic and 2 hours on conversions everyday... that's the crux of it.

James, I would attack affiliate marketing hard since you do have SEO experience. You obviously love teaching English to locals so I would set my 1 year goal helping the locals through your website to establish online marketing (IM) skills to build an income of their own. What an opportunity...

If you want to get passive income as I'm also trying to make this happen, I suggest you to build adsense website niche empire. Moreover you have specialty on SEO. After your site has decent stable income, you can flip it to get more income and build another adsense website niche.

What is it with all these people saying that 4 hours a day isn't enough time? Are they serious?

Four hours a day is plenty. Take it from one who makes a damned good living online and who wouldn't dream of working that long! I doubt my attention span would be up to it anyway!

Here are a few ways of making money that will easily fit into your available time:

1. Write articles to sell as PLR. Four hours a day should easily allow you to write 4 good quality articles. That's a lot.

As is being discussed exhaustively on another thread, you should easily be able to get $5 per article, bringing you in $600 per month. But why sell yourself short like that? The big mistake article writers make - especially the $5 ones - is in selling one article to one buyer.

Think PLR. 120 articles a month is 12 packs. Sell them for $7.50 per pack to just 25 buyers per month and you are already up to $2250. Start a membership site and spend time building the subscribers up to 1-200 and you could even give up the day job.

2. Write Kindle ebooks. 4 hours a day would give you more than enough time to research and write several each month. There are two or three excellent, and low cost, WSOs available now that can point you in the right direction there.

3. If pure writing isn't your thing, affiliate marketing is very much a contender. I do several things online, but affiliate marketing is always at the heart of them. $2000 a week is quite easy when you get the hang of it, and I've plenty of days where I've exceed that.

4. List building is probably your best long term option. Once you have a list that likes what you have to say, recommending things for them to buy is a natural progression. That can be affiliate products or your own ones. Either way, once you have built your list (which I admit can take a little time and effort) writing your newsletters shouldn't take more than two hours per week!


All this talk of having to put in long hours is a smokescreen. Yes, some people feel that they have to be strapped to their computer for hours on end because, I guess, they are still stuck in the working for a living mentality. The reality for those of us who have learned how to break out of that trap is that working online is the ultimate in 'garbage in, garbage out'. If you work effectively an hour of your time is worth ten of a guy who potters around doing very little.

A friend of mine was, until he retired from the business, one of the highest earning Internet marketers in the UK. He only ever worked on his Internet marketing business on Thursdays.

I write a very profitable newsletter that makes me a bigger income than any day job I ever had in my life (and I worked for 25 years in the highly paid advertising industry) and I 'work' - at most - 4 hours a week.

It isn't about putting in the hours for the sake of it, and it certainly isn't about taking action. That's one of the biggest and most damaging myths around. It is about using the hours you have, learning to concentrate and taking effective action that is proven (if only to you) to produce results.

The only thing wrong, in my opinion, with the OPs quesiton is the implication that $2000 is a satisfactory sum to aim for. It is not. It is a limiting objective.

At 4 hours a day, $2000 barely represents $16 per hour.

A good Internet marketer is worth a heck of a lot more than that.

Martin

I think you need to come up with a business plan and focus on executing the plan without being distracted by the next shiny object that comes into your path.

There will be lots of shiny objects, lots of self doubt. But you need to stay focused on your plan. You need to have the faith that your plan will work.

Do you have a plan? I see you say:

It seem like you are thinking with the "I want to make money..." mindset and I think you really need to switch to the "I want to help people..." mindset.

What you should be thinking about is solving a problem for a specific set of people one you figure out the problem you want to solve, you can then come up with the plan on how to get your product (or affiliate product) into the hands of the people with this problem.

Focus on helping the people, not on the money.

Lee

There are some right negative Nancies on this thread!

For someone who already. makes money with SEO, 4 hours a day is enough to make 2k a month. 4 hours of solid work on a business plan based on a pre-existing model that is known to succeed.

In my opinion, starting cold with a 6 month deadline, selling your SEO expertise is probably the 'easiest' way of getting there and more than doable in 4 hours a day. Although I would also assert that, assuming pre existing knowledge, the amount of niche sites that could be built that time, monetizing with Amazon or Adsense, or both, and consequent email marketing could get you to $80 a day in half a year.

4 hours a day is certainly more than I have but it works fine for me. If you are focused, it will work for you too. You asked for a specific material that helped me and this WSO by Jenn Dize was a turning point for me in time management as an internet marketer: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-people.html#1

(I'm an affiliate but this is not an aff link).

You really should get it; you will feel blessed with the amount of time you have.

Hello Everyone!

First, I have to say THANK YOU to everyone who came by and contributed something to the thread, all of it has been awesome food-for-thought.

@MarkAndrews -> Thanks for your cautious words. I tried to make it clear that I WAS NOT looking for a magic bullet, not by any means. In fact, many of the products that are selling these "Read How I Made 5,000,000 in 4 Minutes Every Other Day" titles should feel like scam artists. I am well aware it takes work to make money online.

As I mentioned, SEO is my strong point, and I've been an SEO freelancers for just pushing on 2 years. However, as mentioned above, I think that SEO is a dying art, with more of a push towards a socially-integrated system. Which is exactly why I aim to leave SEO and move to affiliate marketing.

I KNOW IT IS HARD WORK. That said, I was able to sell subscription packages of SEO work for 800/month, but being that google is actively trying to nerf SEO work, (anyone who doesn't agree may or may not be delusional) - and I worked my ass off. I teach English part time, because...well..I love it!

Mark, I'm spot on with you when you say that it's hard-ass work, and that there are too many people pushing snake-oil products. I'm not an idiot. I wasn't looking for a get rich in minutes a day, I was looking for ideas, reading material, and specifically WAS NOT looking for "How I make 5,000/day on Fiver".

If you check out my post history, I'm not a doofus. I don't say things like "Help Me, I'm Lost at Sea" I ask things like "What would be better for promoting an ebook, a squeeze page or sales page?" I'm about substantial methodology.

That said, it clearly seems like you're upset about the amount of people that think becoming an IM is an easy joke. Fortunately, you don't need to be upset with me =)

Before even starting you cannot jot down or plan for $$$ figures. You have to plan your work and DO it atleast for one month and see what it makes you end of 30th day, then increase it next month and so on. Act smart in the process..

Just putting numbers might sound good in theory not practical. .

Just start working on without any $$ figures in mind...

Sometimes, serious problems exist when one jumps into conclusion right away.

To the OP, since you have a limited time, perhaps you should consider outsourcing after making a solid plan and setting your goals.

I believe it's all about smart work.

More power to you!

Cheers,
Louie Tugas

I think you should create products. If you have 4 hours a day, and really focus on creating your own product, you'll have your very own product done in 2-4 weeks. Once you have a product that delivers value, you can put it online and once you do that, you just created a passive income source that will pay you for years to come. If you want a raise, just create another product.

Yes you will have to work hard for 2-4 weeks (until you have your own product) but then you'll create your own "money tree" that will make money even when you sleep or watch TV.

Hope that helps!

Alen

Product creation is probably the best way to set up passive income.

This is not always an option for English teachers around the Pacific rim. When your contract is up, it's frequently just plain up, and you don't get to keep teaching.

Aside from list-building in niches that will always be looking for "more, more, more," your most likely path for a more passive income would be to focus on gradually EXPANDING your client-base and OUTSOURCING the nuts and bolts of what you already know and how you already implement it successfully.

You know how to do SEO successfully with certain investments of your KNOWLEDGE, TIME, and investment capital. If you know you can complete certain projects from start to finish and average X amount per hour charging X amount, you should be able to find (and/or train) the right people to get involved in various steps along the way for less outlay than the revenue average. They would be making a wage they feel is acceptable, and you would still be coming out ahead financially while additionally gaining TIME in the process. Initially, you outsource some of the less complicated labor tasks and then eventually more complex labor tasks. Eventually, you could conceivably outsource client-acquisition tasks and lower management tasks for a semi-passive income from your SEO business.

Hey James, I have a few tips for you to get started with as a newbie. What you should do first is create or purchase your desired amount of unique articles after using the "Google Keyword Tool" and collecting your keywords. After that, you are going to want to go to "www.offervault.com" to collect your desired number of CPA offers links.

Then after including your affiliate links into your articles you want to submit your quality articles to the top article directories and high traffic blogs using "www.articlemarketingautomation.com" and "www.articlesubmitauto.com". And last but not least, faithfully post on multiple forums that cater to your desired niche daily. All you gotta do after all this, is wait for the dollars to start rollin in! I look forward to your success

From looking at your responses here, I think you are going to do just fine and be very successful. You're obviously pretty smart and it sounds like you know all the right things to do.

I agree with you on the whole SEO thing btw and I also think you are smart to be moving away from doing SEO for clients. Creating your own passive (well at least as passive as you can get) streams of income is the best route and since you have your job still for a while you are in a perfect position because you can spend the time building your own business instead of someone else's.

I just caution you to not fall prey to the same things that I have and that is to jump around from one thing to another because it seems like the thing you are working on isn't making money fast enough.

Have you checked out the 30 day challenge? That's something that really helped me a lot.

Also, since you are an english teacher I'll assume that maybe you would get into writing books? One thing that has been doing really well for me is publishing books on the kindle. There's a couple of tricks to it though - there's a WSO by Geoff Shaw that shows you what to do (and also one by Jonny Andrews but its no longer for sale

Hope that helps!

Lee

Follow these steps and you can be making $4-5k/mo in about 6 months completely passive income.

1. Sign up for Zeek Rewards

2. (US only) Get a loan from Prosper.com to jumpstart your Zeek Rewards business (I recommend putting in $10k to Zeek, so I suggest getting about $15k or so from Prosper.

If you want specific step-by-step instructions on how to sign up and get it set up completely on autopilot, PM me with your email and I'll be happy to help you.

If you do that, like I said, you will be making and average of about $4-5k/mo in roughly 6 months. For most, you should be able to live a fairly comfortable lifestyle off that, and since it will basically be on complete autopilot, it will free you up to be able to focus completely on what you're passionate about.

James,

you've already taken some steps in the right direction.

1.) you've got on here, and asked for help/advice.

2.) You realise that it's not going to take a day or two to be a millionaire. Success takes time. If it didn't, we'd already all be millionaires.

3.) you already have experience online with SEO.


Overall, you've got a very good starting point. I know this isn't the most helpful of posts, and I can't really recommend any books or material as I specialise in writing, but I just really liked the fact that you're realistic.

Hope you do well, and good luck in this goal/pursuit!


Ben.

Why do you only have 4 hours? If it's cause you enjoy a good nights sleep then think again. You really have to ask yourself how much you want this?

I've not slept in 36 hours but what makes it even worse is everything I have been working on I just realised isn't going to work. So I've deletd it and I'm back to square one. IM's concept is simple but the amount of work you have ot put into this is incredible!

i have four hours a day and i am giving my hours to online business and making it possible that i can do everything....in that four hours i used to do the advertisement of products and making these four hours to earn something.....

You should sell a nice sized product. Maybe you can get sales and break even in the process - thereby giving you a free customer. You can then backend sell these new customers with another one of your nice sized product ($50 - $100). Make sure you have an email newsletter to back this up with. Once this is done, just continue to get new customers and follow up on them on a regular basis.

Well, first of all, I wish you the best of luck in your online ventures and in making money online. That being said in my opinion their are two routes you can take:

1. In my opinion this is the one for making better money, for for this you are required to have knowledge of code. This will probably also take more than six months to become big unless you have a good marketing structure. What you should do with this you should go and make a website where teachers can join in their spare times. They can video chat with their students (online tutoring) in their free time and the money can be transfered online through PayPal. You can make money with this.

2. The second recommendation I would make if you don't have as much coding experience though for #1 you can hire someone. With this what you do is you just make a website where you put information their. You can really broadcast this idea where you have some basic information and then broadcast it out into more information. That being said, you can also tell your students about "Oh, I found this great website which can help you study." and if 150 students join on top of increasing your popularity some may buy subscriptions. I would stick with only a $4 month price.

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Awesome Quote =)

I started a very specific educational company with skills many others wouldn't have, simply by starting a blog and creating video after video educating. With the type of specific skills and qualifications you have, I believe you could make an absolute killing teaching English as a second language right from the Internet... if that is something you'd be interested in pursuing.

What I did was created a specific educational course - which is something you could definitely do in your spare time.

I'm not sure what the competition is like out there for online ESL teachers, but I think if you focus on building a sweet blog with lots of great videos (3-5 minutes) that teach your readers something valuable every time they watch, you'll find that after watching all your free videos they'll gladly sign up for your paid videos.

My model was to put about 20 hours of free video on my blog (through posts), and my model was a paid monthly membership for access to all of my videos (over 100 hours).

With the knowledge-base you have in ESL, I'd imagine you could create 100's of hours of videos, which could keep members hanging around for many, many months. This model could prove to be lucrative, especially if it is well advertised, which could be done via free and paid methods.

If you have 4 hours per day to 'make it', then I'd suggest the following:
- create a well thought out plan for your business
- create a detailed 'to-do' list of things to get done to build the framework for the business
- work your butt off creating content and uploading it to your website
- work your butt off spreading the word (which you can even do by spreading flyers in Korea)

I think six months is plenty of time if you are ready to work hard.

Hopefully this idea is along the lines of what you were thinking... I see great potential in using your educational expertise because I was able to do so with my education.

PM me if you want any more details.

Paul

Again, thank you everyone for your time in responding to my post. Many of you had great suggestions to think about in my days to come. Being that I've already carved out 20 minutes today of my four hours just with this thread, I think it's time to hit the grindstone.

I had no idea this thread would spark so many responses, and I appreciate your insights.

Right away, I'm going to backwards design some goals for the month (start with the goal and plan how to complete that goal). Time to get focused and mind-map some ideas.

Cheers everyone! Continued success to all.

@honestbizpro
Cheers! Thank you for the positivity - Continued success to you!

wow! this is a good discussion! My 2 cents is start social networking, through sites like this, twitter, facebook, linkedin, etc. That will also help with brainstorming your approach, and finding some good contacts, but that is just one piece of the puzzle.

just hand around this forum and maybe buy a few WSOs, you will learn alot!

then after you got a general feel for some of the different methods, choose one you enjoy!

thanks

TheKaver

James,

I see many good advice for you on this thread

Don't forget your currently situation will be the motivator to "push" you to succeed faster and since your contract is running out, depending how desperate you are to achieve your target goal (I would guess very from your post , you will likely spend as much time as needed to achieve it (no matter what).

I don't understand the part where you mentioned that SEO is a dying trend and you want to focus on aff marketing Did you mean you want to spend the 4 hours to learn AF than work on your current expertise of SEO? If this is the case then likely you will need more time.

Mark's word are tough but makes lots of sense, it takes effort and time to learn "the processes" to make money online. If you can "maximise, be focused and disciplined (not distracted by new shining object" on the 4 hours you have with your 2 years SEO experience getting clients that require your SEO service would be not be too difficult.

Note you don't get paid for time (be it 4 hours or 6 months), you get paid for giving value to the market place with the time you are willing to spend Keep us posted on your progress.

Good Lord! I, too, am a newbie and the only thing I keep think is, "so what are you saying... GoogleSniper is not how I should start?"

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James, it sounds like you've got pretty realistic expectations of IM from what I've read so far, and definitely don't have your head in the clouds like some newbies.

Since you already seem to know the ins and outs of SEO and I assume have been fairly successful at getting results for your clients, I feel that a natural progression to this activity would be building and ranking niche sites of your own.

You expressed a desire for fairly passive income, and building these types of niche sites would fit that requirement. It's also pretty scalable, enabling you to build as many as you want in order to meet your income goals, and the majority of the work can be outsourced as well.

Since you already seem to know SEO fairly well, I don't think it'd be a huge stretch to graduate to building niche sites, where you'd be more in control of both your time and income.

Paul

if i only had 4 hours a day i'd research giving webinars and create some niche related high end products and execute like a frank kern 4 day cashmachine. You could get real good at this in 6 months. But it takes guts.

On another note i was watching the body guard last night was on in honor of whitney huston on lifetime. And frank the body guard took her to his dads house. The dad was talking to whitney about frank the body guard and the line hit me between the eyeballs:

"growing up frank was amazing he did everything he wanted to and if he feared doing something he just kept doing it till the fear went away" thats approximately it not word for word

but i thought thats all the advice i'll ever need to get over entrprenurial fear. I hope it helps you too.

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A four day cash machine could be a special offer to your list for 4 days or s series of videos sent in a timed interval ea. that leads to the webinar in the end. these days i see everybody using fb for comments under the videos, and on rare occasions I see people using a wordpress blog.

I've been following the Jerry Seinfeld Productivity method as described here on lifehacker Jerry Seinfeld's Productivity Secret
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I have a calendar, that I use just to put large X's in everyday I spend my four hours a day. It feels great crossing those bad-boys off.
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I really do feel that from Monday to Friday I'm in a different place. The quote comes to mind:

"Inch by inch, achieving your dream is a cinch" =)
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For those following: I've taken great interest in utilize my skills and reaching out, working with other people in joint ventures. I'm aiming to keep the amount of projects LOW. 3 Projects currently. They include:
-Ecommmerce Website with a partner
-Becoming a head writer at an already well established 10k unique per month niche site, that I'm going to use my skills to augment its current site. (Add drop-shipping, affiliate links instead of adsense, use my SEO-skills to rank for more keywords, and marketing prowess to build a list - the current newsletter was just automatic notification of new posts)
-Work with a friend and build a membership site.

Cheers friends. Thanks to all who are following! Positivity and success to you!

Skip Internet marketing. Just skip it. I don't market Internet products. I still find the warrior forum very useful for marketing online and that is what you should be doing. The Internet is a gold mine and so can be starting a business off the internet. You could start a 5 star restaurant, a chain of gas stations, a carpet cleaning business. What you are asking yourself is...can I start a business online for less than $50 and make it by working 4 hours a day everyday for 6 months...sure...sure you can, anything is possible...but being realistic...you have already given yourself a dead-line - now you are rushing.

Think about what you want to be doing for the next year...2 years 5 years 10 years. Start a business in an area you are interested in. Your an English teacher in Seol - great "Discover how to learn English in 60 Minutes" you are already an expert. You could quite possibly start the largest English home tutoring service in Seol. You could start a website offering ebooks, cds on learning languages. Whatever you do do what is fun.

Hi if given a choice, I will just concentrate on building a list, as most of us know, the money is in the list, and it is really true. This is what i call, a reverse engineering, is it too complicated to understand?
For a traditional business, one will setup a shop first and wait for the customers or clients to come in. But for an online business, first, you should build your list first by offering them freebies, sharing with them, talking to them to build rapport, etc.
Once you have build a list, you can start to promote products to them slowly, that will increase your conversion rate.

Hopes help.
Terrence Wan

Hey James,

I sent you an PM with a link that I think you will hopefully find helpful.

John Brewer

Hey, I'm just like you! I have a full time job and family. For the past few weeks I was working hard to get my first website together.

My advise:
1. choose a good keyword / niche
2. do a lot of research
3. turn that information into articles
4. put together a website based on your niche and recommend products to your visitors.

Good luck!