Final Blow to Ezine Articles, I've had enough!

11 years ago

Mr. Daydream,
From your post, it seems you have not been
using Ezinearticles correctly.

I strongly suggest that you read this thread:

How Article Directories Work

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Mr.Daydream

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeTucker

So you have been using Ezinearticles incorrectly, and it is not giving you the results that you want, and now you are going to stop using them?

Poor EZA, I'm sure they will suffer without you.

...OR, you could take a step back, take a deep breath, and learn

(The right way)

Sorry if I didn't clarify myself properly to begin with. I have been using ezine articles for the past few years, and have had good results. All I'm trying to say here is that a recent change where they put the text "About the Author" before my resource box has massively decreased my Click Through Ratio.

As an example, my CTR on average used to be 21% but since this change, it has shot down to 8%.

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MacS09 11 years ago

I think Ezinearticles is now in mourning after your post, Mr. Daydream.
I just went to check my articles and both FF and Chrome told me that ezinearticles.com cannot be found.

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MikeTucker

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mr.Daydream

Sorry if I didn't clarify myself properly to begin with. I have been using ezine articles for the past few years, and have had good results. All I'm trying to say here is that a recent change where they put the text "About the Author" before my resource box has massively decreased my Click Through Ratio.

As an example, my CTR on average used to be 21% but since this change, it has shot down to 8%.

Yeah, FYI, I did edit my post to be less of an ass, LOL...

The "About the Author" box is really not that big of a deal
to me.

Either way, you shouldn't be trying to get traffic from EZA itself,
which is what it sounds like you are trying to do? Because
I haven't noticed a drop at all after the change.

Readers that feel a connection through what they read,
and who still want to learn more, still click on the links.

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Mr.Daydream

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeTucker

Yeah, FYI, I did edit my post to be less of an ass, LOL...

The "About the Author" box is really not that big of a deal
to me.

Either way, you shouldn't be trying to get traffic from EZA itself,
which is what it sounds like you are trying to do? Because
I haven't noticed a drop at all after the change.

Readers that feel a connection through what they read,
and who still want to learn more, still click on the links.

I have several articles which were bringing in good numbers each day since the past couple of years, but with this change, it has gone down quite a bit.

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AnniePot

11 years ago

Ezine Articles just one (sometimes limited) way to approach article syndication. You will get far better, sustainable results if you proactively go out and search for direct syndication sources yourself.

Set aside a certain amount of time every day, during which you locate and approach niche relevant blogs, websites, ezines, etc., and offer them your content.

By partnering with other, relevant players in your niche, you will gain immediate access to all their readers. If you make you writing provocative enough, a good percentage will click though to your website. AND, this will all come about without any dependance upon Google.

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Claire Koch

11 years ago

This is true and many forums have places for articles too an easier way to get ranked. directory marketing for articles still works tho

Originally Posted by AnniePot

Ezine Articles just one (sometimes limited) way to approach article syndication. You will get far better, sustainable results if you proactively go out and search for direct syndication sources yourself.

Set aside a certain amount of time every day, during which you locate and approach niche relevant blogs, websites, ezines, etc., and offer them your content.

By partnering with other, relevant players in your niche, you will gain immediate access to all their readers. If you make you writing provocative enough, a good percentage will click though to your website. AND, this will all come about without any dependance upon Google.

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Ord Allenbea

11 years ago

Glad to see that you have seen the light like many of us have years ago. There are far better ways to syndicate and distribute your articles.

Originally Posted by Mr.Daydream

I just noticed a sudden fall in numbers to my site via ezinearticles. I searched around and found out the reason, now below each article they have "About This Author" box which obviously gets in the way of people clicking my author box link.

Before my resource box seemed like it was a part of the article and my ctr was good. But now readers probably assume that the article finishes at "About this author" text & don't care about reading further.

They are no better than articlesbase and other articles directories which bring little to no traffic.

Goodbye ezinearticles, we had a good relationship as long as it lasted.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mr.Daydream

All I'm trying to say here is that a recent change where they put the text "About the Author" before my resource box has massively decreased my Click Through Ratio.

As an example, my CTR on average used to be 21% but since this change, it has shot down to 8%.

I understand.

The "about the author" business wasn't the most pleasant of changes. I could have done without it, myself, really. But I can live with it.

The point Mike is making above, and I'm making here, is that if your CTR was 21% and has gone down to 8% and that's bad for you, then - respectfully - you're really not using EZA as it should be used. It isn't there for customers - it's there for publishers. It's a bad idea to get any potential traffic coming to your site via an article-directory. This isn't the purpose that article directories are intended to serve, at all. For what it's worth, if this development, which seems adverse at the moment, prompts a different use of EZA, it may turn out to be to your benefit in the long run?

This post, in particular, may clarify what I mean?

And this post, too, may be "food for thought"?

I put all my articles in EZA (about 1,600 of them, now, I think - I lose count) and I get tremendous value from doing so, but I really don't want potential customer traffic coming to my site that way ...

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

Ezinearticles losing rankings is the best thing that ever happened to me.

I liked it, also. It's become much easier to rank the original copies of all those articles first published on my own site now, with no fear of EZA ever outranking me, no fear of customers finding them, and far more traffic at my own site as a result, while still having copies of all the articles in EZA, too (after I've done everything else I want with them), for publishers to take for further syndication. This is where all Google's "Panda updates" of 2011 did article marketers such a favour.

Originally Posted by Mr.Daydream

I have several articles which were bringing in good numbers each day since the past couple of years, but with this change, it has gone down quite a bit.

For an article marketer, Mr. Daydream, that should be a good thing, not a bad thing.

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Nicola Lane

11 years ago

Anyone who has a problem with this new Author Box - please go an comment on the ezine articles blog post.

Author Resource Box Changes

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brettb

11 years ago

EZine is just full of web sewage. I can't remember ever reading a useful article on that site.

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Rod Cortez 11 years ago

Originally Posted by brettb

EZine is just full of web sewage. I can't remember ever reading a useful article on that site.

You must not read a lot of articles. I've found plenty of high-quality articles there across a wide variety of different topics. Like any article directory you're going to have great authors, sh**y authors, and everything else inbetween.

Personally, I do not use EZA for any links and I don't use them for primary traffic, so from my standpoint I don't have enough information at this time to know the impact of this change. Only time will tell. In any event, there are still one of the places I submit some of my content to.

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mojojuju

11 years ago

Originally Posted by brettb

EZine is just full of web sewage. I can't remember ever reading a useful article on that site.

Even worse than ezinearticles content is the content at ehow.com.

Here's how a typical article looks like at eHow.com

How to fix a broken computer

Your computer is broken and you feel sad or angry that your computer is broken. It is at this time that you may be interested in fixing your broken computer.

Here are instructions how to fix your broken computer.

Have a broken computer.
Be willing to figure out how to fix your broken computer.
Search for information online about how to fix your broken computer.
Once you find instructions on how to fix your broken computer, read the instructions.
Follow the instructions that you found on how to fix your broken computer.

Now you should have a fully functioning computer.

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Anton Nadilo

11 years ago

I have to agree with Alexa and Mike's comments in that you should not be using Ezine Articles as a traffic source...I suppose many IM marketer have been lucky enough to have received good levels of traffic from this source in the PAST however recent Google updates and changes to Ezine Articles format have in fact seen this "direct" traffic drop off substantially. I would recommend you don't toss the towel in yet my friend and instead an adjust your approach. Take the "long game" view and make the focus maximizing the "reach" of your articles with various article syndication tactics.....plus I have found that if article is good enough it will turn your reader into a rabid dog and they will scrounge and claw over your article to find your "more info" links.....

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Claire Koch

11 years ago

boy i can second that remark but you can't throw up anything it takes time and ingenuity to write the kind of article this gentleman is referring to but do it you will not regret it

Originally Posted by Anton Nadilo

.plus I have found that if article is good enough it will turn your reader into a rabid dog and they will scrounge and claw over your article to find your "more info" links.....

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GeraldNitram

11 years ago

I like how some of the replies here include "you're not using E-zine Articles as it should be used" or something along that line. I think you're using the article directory as a link building method. If that's the case, then that doesn't always mean you're going to get traffic. The reason why it dropped might be because of something else other than that "About the Author" box that everyone was talking about.

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penny_zf

11 years ago

What other sources to syndicating articles are there? Anyone have any comments on Squidoo and Hubpages?

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by penny_zf

What other sources to syndicating articles are there?

The two important groups, because they're ways of getting your work in front of targeted traffic, are ...

(i) Every ezine that's published in your niche

Many are listed here: Directory of Ezines

(ii) Every website covering your niche whose webmaster accepts content from other authors

More suggestions are here (recommended): Turn Words Into Traffic

"Article directories" and "article submission sites" are not themselves part of "syndication": directories are simply a way of making articles available to publishers who want to syndicate them. They're just a "stepping stone". Don't try to use them for "their own traffic" or "their own backlinks"!

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

Originally Posted by penny_zf

Anyone have any comments on Squidoo and Hubpages?

Yes, many ... the bottom line is that they're no help at all to article marketing because they require previously unpublished content (and no sensible article marketer who has that is going to fail to have it indexed on his/her own site first), but they also have a huge number of other difficulties, problems and liabilities, and they don't give you anything you can't get more safely, securely and easily elsewhere.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...y-website.html (I know you're not thinking about them as "your primary website" but the points made in this thread are still highly relevant to your question ).

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5611709

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5594298

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5551278
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protectyoursales

11 years ago

Hmmm...I'm not seeing that about the author box that you're talking about...All my articles still look exactly the same. Maybe it's just me. And I really never pay attention to my EZA stats, so I submit that I have inferior knowledge if you check yours regularly.

As others have consistently pointed out (The consistency with which you address these threads is impressive, Alexa), an article syndication model will get you much greater TRAFFIC return on your work, and you'll be less dependent on all other secondary sites to your own because of it. When you're focus is on spreading your content around instead of driving traffic through EZA, you'll end up getting the best of both worlds.

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RuthBabe

11 years ago

Perhaps Mr. D don't know how to use EZA properly that's why...

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Ernie G

11 years ago

Things just don't seem the same since EZA got slapped around by the Panda. Article marketing used to be such a great traffic treasure trove...

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Ord Allenbea

11 years ago

Article marketing still is! Ezine articles content farm getting slapped has nothing to do with article marketing and it has not changed article marketing in any way.

Why people think the panda update targeted article marketing is far beyond me. The panda targeted low class content farms that was filled with garbage content and filled with far too many ads. Thus why ezine articles got hit hard.

Originally Posted by Ernie G

Things just don't seem the same since EZA got slapped around by the Panda. Article marketing used to be such a great traffic treasure trove...

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Ord Allenbea

Why people think the panda update targeted article marketing is far beyond me.

I hear you, there.

But you haven't yet been here for long enough to be used to it. It's just "how things are", and - sadly - sometimes frustratingly - it won't be changing any time soon.

The underlying reason for it, I think, is that so many people imagine that "article marketing" means submitting huge numbers of articles to directories in an attempt to use the directories for the "benefit" of their own backlinks and/or their own traffic (:rolleyes: :p).

There are also large numbers here who have twigged that that doesn't work at all, but even many of those still imagine that that's "article marketing": they're the ones who've started off all the threads with titles like "Article Marketing Is Dead".

As long experience is gradually teaching me, it really isn't always easy to explain to people how "article marketing" actually works.

For reasons of my own, partly because of the huge handicap that it was to me when I was setting out to make a living online, in 2008, I have the great personal misfortune to find repeated factual misinformation in posts here slightly irritating, and I'm aware that I sometimes go to excessive lengths to try to correct it. The best outcome that can legitimately be expected from this activity (as I've gradually been learning) is some very real benefit to small numbers of people, together with some resentment, hostility and unpleasantness from others. I bring that on myself, of course, both by continuing to do it and occasionally by being too outspoken when I do.

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myob

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

...I have the great personal misfortune to find repeated factual misinformation in posts here slightly irritating, and I'm aware that I sometimes go to excessive lengths to try to correct it. The best outcome that can legitimately be expected from this activity (as I've gradually been learning) is some very real benefit to small numbers of people, together with some resentment, hostility and unpleasantness from others. I bring that on myself, of course, both by continuing to do it and occasionally by being too outspoken when I do.

And then of course, there are those enlightened few who noiselessly continue to submit our articles to EZA - with great but subdued enthusiasm steadily building syndicated networks amidst the wailing outcries of failed delusional victims, the misinformed and *******s abusing article repositories for nefarious and contorted purposes other than their primary and intended function.

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Ord Allenbea

11 years ago

Yeah many have been taught (and still are) that mass article submission is article marketing. Those that want to push lame software and useless mass submission services rely upon people believing this is how article marketing is done.

One thing I noticed is that so many are scared that they started calling article marketing content marketing now. Content marketing is a totally different beast and includes many different things. Some seem to think changing the name will keep them safe from Google :rolleyes:

I agree the good thing is some will actually learn what real article marketing is from all those post/threads that talk about article marketing being dead.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I hear you, there.

But you haven't yet been here for long enough to be used to it. It's just "how things are", and - sadly - sometimes frustratingly - it won't be changing any time soon.

The underlying reason for it, I think, is that so many people imagine that "article marketing" means submitting huge numbers of articles to directories in an attempt to use the directories for the "benefit" of their own backlinks and/or their own traffic (:rolleyes: :p).

There are also large numbers here who have twigged that that doesn't work at all, but even many of those still imagine that that's "article marketing": they're the ones who've started off all the threads with titles like "Article Marketing Is Dead".

As long experience is gradually teaching me, it really isn't always easy to explain to people how "article marketing" actually works.

For reasons of my own, partly because of the huge handicap that it was to me when I was setting out to make a living online, in 2008, I have the great personal misfortune to find repeated factual misinformation in posts here slightly irritating, and I'm aware that I sometimes go to excessive lengths to try to correct it. The best outcome that can legitimately be expected from this activity (as I've gradually been learning) is some very real benefit to small numbers of people, together with some resentment, hostility and unpleasantness from others. I bring that on myself, of course, both by continuing to do it and occasionally by being too outspoken when I do.

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MattCatania

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I have the great personal misfortune to find repeated factual misinformation in posts here slightly irritating, and I'm aware that I sometimes go to excessive lengths to try to correct it. The best outcome that can legitimately be expected from this activity (as I've gradually been learning) is some very real benefit to small numbers of people, together with some resentment, hostility and unpleasantness from others. I bring that on myself, of course, both by continuing to do it and occasionally by being too outspoken when I do.

Keep fighting the good fight, Alexa.

Trust me when I say that there are people out there who are willing to listen and 'go through the motions' of proper article syndication.

You've helped many more people than I believe you actually realise.

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MikeTucker

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MattCatania

Keep fighting the good fight, Alexa.

Trust me when I say that there are people out there who are willing to listen and 'go through the motions' of proper article syndication.

You've helped many more people than I believe you actually realise.

+1000

Indeed... There are probably a dozen wonderful Warriors here who fight this fight, and I am deeply grateful to them all... I've got a list but I don't know what I've done with it right now, LOL. In any case, I believe everyone sees "Alexa Smith" as the cutting edge of this sword of truth, and you have more fans than mosquitoes.

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MattCatania

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeTucker

+1000

Indeed... There are probably a dozen wonderful Warriors here who fight this fight, and I am deeply grateful to them all... I've got a list but I don't know what I've done with it right now, LOL. In any case, I believe everyone sees "Alexa Smith" as the cutting edge of this sword of truth, and you have more fans than mosquitoes.

Exactly - there are so many wonderful people who selflessly give away information that would turn them a hefty profit - all for free.

The best thing, in my opinion, is that they do it on a daily basis.

I only mentioned Alexa in my post above because I was quoting her - but indeed, many more people stand with her.

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LyndaL66

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

For reasons of my own, partly because of the huge handicap that it was to me when I was setting out to make a living online, in 2008, I have the great personal misfortune to find repeated factual misinformation in posts here slightly irritating, and I'm aware that I sometimes go to excessive lengths to try to correct it. The best outcome that can legitimately be expected from this activity (as I've gradually been learning) is some very real benefit to small numbers of people, together with some resentment, hostility and unpleasantness from others. I bring that on myself, of course, both by continuing to do it and occasionally by being too outspoken when I do.

Alexa,

Don't stop fighting the good fight. I am primarily a lurker, a newbie, someone who merely knows how to write and wants to make some money with that dubious talent. I devour every word that you post. Every time you come on this board and explain article marketing, I try to wrap my head around it. I haven't done it yet -- I'm writing too much for others! -- but I hope to do it soon. So, yes, you are helping people out here. More than you know. I am probably just one of the silent thousands who read your posts and nod with gratefulness.

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Studio13

11 years ago

I consider EzArticles to be a SEO — never have considered them for traffic.

Getting two links from an "authority" site backed with original content (ie, your article) is of tremendous value. For example, I was climbing the rankings for "reno personal trainer" and was at page 4. After a single published article in ezinearticles.com my page jumped to #9 on the first page. I attribute that jump to that one article alone.

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clean99

11 years ago

Ezine Articles still work, can't say that I get a ton of traffic from there but I do get some reads and the click through rate is 6%.
But I never expected to get a ton of traffic from there anyways, I use it for backlinking and as a part of my Linkwheel strategy

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jasono

11 years ago

If you are talking about the traffic then don't blame EZA. There are times that click rates go down or up--this mostly depend on your product. Another thing would be the interest of the readers, what they are reading might not be of their interest.

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Jothika

11 years ago

Brother, its good you have seen the light. Now look for other ways and don't forget to be creative.

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Eric Lancheres

11 years ago

Ezinearticles has been dying for ages now.... if you use them to get 1 link back... then good. But I wouldn't count on them for anything else.

How many things have you looked up lately that have had Ezine articles pop-up as a #1 resource?

Not much... Ezine doesn't rank well anymore.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Eric Lancheres

How many things have you looked up lately that have had Ezine articles pop-up as a #1 resource?

None.

Originally Posted by Eric Lancheres

Not much... Ezine doesn't rank well anymore.

Exactly so.

That's an advantage to article marketers.

It means we can submit our articles there for the purpose for which the site exists without ever needing to worry that they'll outrank any other copies.

The last thing an article marketer wants is to send potential customer traffic from a search engine to an article-directory copy of one of our articles: we all lose most of that traffic!

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5075780

Originally Posted by Mark72

and since it will always take either time or money to produce a unique article, it never really was free.

Article marketers don't submit "unique articles" to article directories.

We submit there only copies of articles previously indexed on our own sites (and ideally already syndicated elsewhere, too).

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

If you were submitting "unique content" there, and/or expecting to get traffic coming from a search engine, via an article directory, to your own site, then it wasn't for you, Mark.

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Black Hat Cat

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

For reasons of my own, partly because of the huge handicap that it was to me when I was setting out to make a living online, in 2008, I have the great personal misfortune to find repeated factual misinformation in posts here slightly irritating....

Then stop posting it, and you'll feel better.

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Mark72

11 years ago

I stopped submitting to ezine a year ago after Google decided that it was a "content farm".

It really isn't such a big deal - ezine was just one of many different traffic sources and since it will always take either time or money to produce a unique article, it never really was free.

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Snow_Predator

11 years ago

EzineArticles SUCKS! I stopped using it ever since Panda. Look at the kind of crap they've got on there - 99% of the articles on there are complete garbage

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Ernie G

11 years ago

Excellent thread!

Love Alexa's comment, "The last thing an article marketer wants is to send potential customer traffic from a search engine to an article-directory copy of one of our articles". The link she gives after that explains.

Gives me a whole new perspective on the usage of the articles I've written.

Ernie G.

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Randall Magwood

11 years ago

I haven't seen the "About the Author" section on my articles. Where are they located at?

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MikeTucker

11 years ago

It has been relocated, and now lives between the end of the article and the Resource Box. The issue for many people is that they want their resource box to read as a natural part of their article, without interruption, in the hopes that they have a higher click-thru-rate on their links.

Personally, I haven't noticed much of a difference, and if your business depends on that at all, well... You're probably not making that much money anyway, so it is time to adapt.

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