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BIGGEST problem with PLR products...

by bertuseng
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I recently got a message from one of my customers telling me some of the problems he has with most PLR.

This is what he said:

"One of the problems I've had with PLR in the past is that so often, the products require A) a tremendous amount of "fleshing out" to use on their own and/or B) they don't work all that well if you don't already have a site/list in the "niche" in question."

It got me thinking about what other problems people have with most PLR that get released and I thought I'd create this thread so that people could give their input on this.

PLR has been around a long time and many PLR products get released almost every day. Obviously some are better than others.

Personally, I think that most PLR are not really true Private Label Rights, as the rights are quite restrictive. There are not many PLR that gets released as full PLR which means that you can sell Master resell rights and resell rights to it as well. So, personally I would like to see more Unrestricted type PLR.

Please let me know what problems you have with PLR that get released and I will see how I can help you or tell you how you can solve those problems.

Thanks.

Bertus
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    Oh? So the confusion involved in the specific rights is a big problem? That seems like it could be a problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Cohen
    Well, when you get PLR that is able to be resold, if you purchase it, say, months down the road, it could have already been published on tens of thousands of websites and is being sold as a PLR pack on another thousand of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author algrant
    The thing i like about PLR is after i have read it through and then changed the text to red, i find it only handy as a template that gets me thinking paragrah by paragraph befor i know it i have rewritten the wwole thing in my own words and usually better and defiantly more up to date. I think sometimes people look at PLR as a quick fix ready to go product. Only use them as templates to get you thinking.
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    • Profile picture of the author bertuseng
      Originally Posted by resellcells View Post

      Well, when you get PLR that is able to be resold, if you purchase it, say, months down the road, it could have already been published on tens of thousands of websites and is being sold as a PLR pack on another thousand of them.
      That could definately be a problem. The thing about PLR is that you want to sell the product as it is, you have to change it a bit to make it unique to yourself. Just simply changing the name of the product and the graphics is a quick and easy way to to make it unique to yourself.


      Originally Posted by algrant View Post

      The thing i like about PLR is after i have read it through and then changed the text to red, i find it only handy as a template that gets me thinking paragrah by paragraph befor i know it i have rewritten the wwole thing in my own words and usually better and defiantly more up to date. I think sometimes people look at PLR as a quick fix ready to go product. Only use them as templates to get you thinking.
      Right you are. But with PLR products, you don't have to rewrite the whole thing. Just adding and taking away some content can already make it unique and also more valuable to your customers. Adding content from other related PLR is also a quick way to do this. When you talk about PLR articles, the best bet is to probably rewrite most of it, though.

      Originally Posted by Michael55555 View Post

      Oh? So the confusion involved in the specific rights is a big problem? That seems like it could be a problem.
      Yes, the confusion on the exact rights, but also the fact that unrestricted rights is just very scarce these days. Not many PLR products that you can buy with full PLR rights.
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      Originally Posted by algrant View Post

      The thing i like about PLR is after i have read it through and then changed the text to red, i find it only handy as a template that gets me thinking paragrah by paragraph befor i know it i have rewritten the wwole thing in my own words and usually better and defiantly more up to date. I think sometimes people look at PLR as a quick fix ready to go product. Only use them as templates to get you thinking.
      That's a good way of putting it. I've used PLR the same way. It creates a template for you thought-flow if you take the chapter titles and the sub-headings and use them as guides for your own writing - using your own style.

      I've also done the same thing - taking articles that I've written the in past and re-writing them, making them even better and more relevant in an updated context.
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  • Profile picture of the author billnad
    PLR can be good depending on when and how it was released but then others are terrible. I have purchased a few from Tiffany Dow and also belong to a Health PLR club that gives me good stuff every month but....

    More oftne then not articles are terrible that you get in these big packages. Anytime you are paying less than a $1 an article you have to figure the quality will be bad and that it is probably spun as well. These cheap articles can be more trouble than they are worth. Remember if you are rewriting an article then it is likely going to be faster for you to create one from scratch instead.

    Usually I stay well clear of PLR and just get original or near original content for my blogs and reports.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    One thing people don't realize is that you don't actually have to change PLR to use it. You can use it in emails, as PDFs, turn it into videos, and so much more without even having to rewrite any of it.

    I think the biggest problem is a lot of people don't know how to use PLR.

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  • Profile picture of the author Krisz Rokk
    PLR, like everything else, has good and bad parts.
    Good: If you need a product fast, you can grab one from PLR and either post it as it is or change a few things.
    Bad: Often the quality - poor writing. But as mentioned above, you need to search a bit and find the appropriate product that fits best to your niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      With a few notable exceptions, I have two big problems with most PLR.

      1) Poor/sloppy/incompetent writing, and

      2) Incomplete, outdated or just plain bad information.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheNightOwl
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        With a few notable exceptions, I have two big problems with most PLR.

        1) Poor/sloppy/incompetent writing, and

        2) Incomplete, outdated or just plain bad information.

        Could not agree more!

        The overwhelming majority of PLR is just garbage. Some prat pays some other prat -- whose first language most certainly ain't this one -- 25cents per article (if they're lucky!) and then resells it here as their own "product".

        Written by people who don't care, have no research skills, no writing style, no sense of tone or cohesion... and coherence? Good Lord, what's that?

        Total dross.

        And like John says, there are some notable exceptions, writers whom I've bought some very good PLR content from. But they're rare as hens' teeth.

        So... the main problem for my money is that most PLR just isn't worth anything. Not even my time to look at in most cases.
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  • Profile picture of the author kayshaw
    Hi Bertuseng,
    Thanks for your post, and as a PLR provider, its always nice to get some feedback on whats going on in the marketplace. I agree with some of your contentions and the complaints of the other posts (such as generally bad writing, hard to put into your own niche, etc.). However, I really think it does come down to the provider and not the PLR market in itself. PLR is the perfect solution for a lot of people and it probably will never go away.
    Originally Posted by bertuseng View Post

    Personally, I think that most PLR are not really true Private Label Rights, as the rights are quite restrictive. There are not many PLR that gets released as full PLR which means that you can sell Master resell rights and resell rights to it as well. So, personally I would like to see more Unrestricted type PLR.
    The problem with giving the buyer complete MRR is that is cuts the earning potential for the person who did all the work to do the initial work. For example, (and this is not a plug, but an example) I just did a WSO on a PLR that gives you all the content you need to start a self-help niche site. If I were to give MRR away to my limited edition PLR then anyone else could create a WSO or email their list with my product (as is or without any changes) and take all the money out of my pocket. While this isn't a big deal for PLR providers that don't put a lot of effort into their product, it is a big deal for newer providers like me to give everything away. This is just my personal reasoning for not giving MRR, but others may feel differently.

    Hope that helps explain why their isn't more nonrestrictive PLR rights.
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    • Profile picture of the author bertuseng
      Originally Posted by kayshaw View Post

      Hi Bertuseng,

      The problem with giving the buyer complete MRR is that is cuts the earning potential for the person who did all the work to do the initial work. For example, (and this is not a plug, but an example) I just did a WSO on a PLR that gives you all the content you need to start a self-help niche site. If I were to give MRR away to my limited edition PLR then anyone else could create a WSO or email their list with my product (as is or without any changes) and take all the money out of my pocket. While this isn't a big deal for PLR providers that don't put a lot of effort into their product, it is a big deal for newer providers like me to give everything away. This is just my personal reasoning for not giving MRR, but others may feel differently.

      Hope that helps explain why their isn't more nonrestrictive PLR rights.
      Frith,
      Kayla
      Kayla, I think you, and a lot of other people as well, have a slight misunderstanding of the meaning of all the different kinds of rights. MRR is more restrictive than PLR. Here is a breakdown of the different kinds of rights:

      Giveaway rights:
      You can give the product away for free as it is.

      Resell Rights (RR)
      You are generally allowed to resell the product, but not are not allowed to change it or sell resell rights of any kind.

      Master Resell Rights (MRR)
      You are generally allowed to resell the product and resell it with resell rights, but are not allowed to change it in any way.

      Private Label Rights (PLR)
      THe most powerful resell rights as you can sell it with resell rights, and master resell rights and you are allowed to edit it and change it almost anyway you want.

      I think a lot of people just think all the above are PLR, but its not. A careful look at the Resell rights agreements is always recommended though.

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Hi Bertus, on this subject I have no idea what I'm talking about at all (I've never written, used, bought or sold any PLR material at all), but I'm curious: if someone doesn't already have (or doesn't have plans to have) a site/list in the niche in question, why on Earth would they be buying PLR for it, in the first place? :confused:
      Hehe, yes Alexa. I don't have an idea. Bit of a silly comment that one.
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      Originally Posted by kayshaw View Post

      Hi Bertuseng,
      Thanks for your post, and as a PLR provider, its always nice to get some feedback on whats going on in the marketplace. I agree with some of your contentions and the complaints of the other posts (such as generally bad writing, hard to put into your own niche, etc.). However, I really think it does come down to the provider and not the PLR market in itself. PLR is the perfect solution for a lot of people and it probably will never go away.

      The problem with giving the buyer complete MRR is that is cuts the earning potential for the person who did all the work to do the initial work. For example, (and this is not a plug, but an example) I just did a WSO on a PLR that gives you all the content you need to start a self-help niche site. If I were to give MRR away to my limited edition PLR then anyone else could create a WSO or email their list with my product (as is or without any changes) and take all the money out of my pocket. While this isn't a big deal for PLR providers that don't put a lot of effort into their product, it is a big deal for newer providers like me to give everything away. This is just my personal reasoning for not giving MRR, but others may feel differently.

      Hope that helps explain why their isn't more nonrestrictive PLR rights.
      Frith,
      Kayla
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by bertuseng View Post

    This is what he said:

    "One of the problems I've had with PLR in the past is that so often, the products require A) a tremendous amount of "fleshing out" to use on their own and/or B) they don't work all that well if you don't already have a site/list in the "niche" in question."
    Hi Bertus, on this subject I have no idea what I'm talking about at all (I've never written, used, bought or sold any PLR material at all), but I'm curious: if someone doesn't already have (or doesn't have plans to have) a site/list in the niche in question, why on Earth would they be buying PLR for it, in the first place? :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author ShanaRN
      The only problem I have really had with health related articles is not enough "scientific" info. I remedy that by using my own books and sources to supplement.
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      • Profile picture of the author stafford
        Originally Posted by ShanaRN View Post

        The only problem I have really had with health related articles is not enough "scientific" info. I remedy that by using my own books and sources to supplement.
        This brings up an interesting question. As a new PLR provider (not new at writing) I've been wondering...

        1. Would marketers and niche website owners want or even pay for PLR that is more in-depth and not simply generic?
        2. If they did want more in-depth writing, would they be willing to pay around $2 per article for it?

        I'd love to hear thoughts on this.

        I mostly write in personal development and self help, but I can also write in health, wellness, fitness, nutrition, etc.

        Example: Let's say one PLR provider has written an article on DHEA. It generically explains how it affects your moods, your body etc. This article will cost you $1.

        I write an article and explain to you that DHEA, in scientific terms, is dehydroepiandrosterone. It's a hormone produced by the adrenal glands. I go on to explain how it's produced and why it's produced and what it does. Like the fact that once it enters the bloodstream it is then converted either into adrogens (male hormones) or estrogens (female hormones.)

        This would possibly be a longer article, due to scientific data and the research involved and would likely cost you $2.

        Which article would you rather purchase?

        Many PLR writers do write in very generic terms. I can do this, but I always feel like I'm leaving so much out. However, I would not want to put in the time for an in-depth article if there wasn't much call for them. On the other hand though, if I offered a few packs like this and only a few people purchased them I would still feel good about it.

        It's been years but I have taken medical terminology and medical transcription, so I could get back in the habit of writing more in-depth.

        Look forward to your input. Have an awesome weekend!
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Patti, I don't typically buy articles, but this may help give you some insight (and a hint for those who do)...

          As I said, I don't buy articles, but I do use syndicated articles. When I'm looking for articles to publish, the more detailed, scientifically accurate article (especially if it cites authoritative sources) will win a place over the generic stuff every time.

          For anyone who might be worried that citing a source lessens their claim to expert status, take a look at medical journals. The doctors that get published in those are, by definition, experts. They cite prior research whenever it's appropriate. They know that they are standing on the shoulders of those who have gone before them.

          Why should the guy with a blog pushing diet pills do less?

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  • Profile picture of the author robyna
    I think the trick is to find someone who is actually a professional writer who is writing the PLR. That will certainly cut down on the poor quality aspect of it. It seems like somehow PLR has fallen into that "get rich quick" aspect for some people and they *think* they can write and they can't. And the it colors the entire PLR market in a negative way.

    I do like what AmandaT said, that not all PLR needs to be changed, like if it's going to be used in email, autoresponders, etc. If it's good writing and says what you need to say, then there's no need to change it if there aren't Google & duplication issues to worry about.

    As far as Master Resale Rights, that's one thing I do hang onto. It can cheapen my work dramatically and it's my work because I write all of my own stuff. If I'm selling an ebook I wrote (and spent hours on) for $30 and someone buys it sells it for $1, why will anyone buy from me? I wouldn't blame them but it's my work so I do retain those rights so I control the pricing there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
      There seems to be a lot of complaints about the restrictions on PLR. You need to remember though that the good PLR writers are writing and selling PLR as a business. How good would their business be if they just gave away all the rights to their PLR.

      As Robyn said:

      Originally Posted by robyna View Post

      As far as Master Resale Rights, that's one thing I do hang onto. It can cheapen my work dramatically and it's my work because I write all of my own stuff. If I'm selling an ebook I wrote (and spent hours on) for $30 and someone buys it sells it for $1, why will anyone buy from me? I wouldn't blame them but it's my work so I do retain those rights so I control the pricing there.
      Giving away the resell or master resale rights to PLR will just cheapen the PLR. I think you'll find a lot of the PLR that has Resell, MRR or PLR resale rights are those PLR that are just cheap rubbish.

      If you want good quality PLR articles, then you need to expect that there will be certain limitations so that writers can keep the quality of their PLR at a high standard.
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  • Profile picture of the author NACAdam
    LOL hey man not to be shady but I honestly have never had any problems with treating PLR as if I had the master resale rights haha
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
      Originally Posted by kayshaw View Post

      Hi Bertuseng,
      Thanks for your post, and as a PLR provider, its always nice to get some feedback on whats going on in the marketplace. I agree with some of your contentions and the complaints of the other posts (such as generally bad writing, hard to put into your own niche, etc.). However, I really think it does come down to the provider and not the PLR market in itself. PLR is the perfect solution for a lot of people and it probably will never go away.

      The problem with giving the buyer complete MRR is that is cuts the earning potential for the person who did all the work to do the initial work. For example, (and this is not a plug, but an example) I just did a WSO on a PLR that gives you all the content you need to start a self-help niche site. If I were to give MRR away to my limited edition PLR then anyone else could create a WSO or email their list with my product (as is or without any changes) and take all the money out of my pocket. While this isn't a big deal for PLR providers that don't put a lot of effort into their product, it is a big deal for newer providers like me to give everything away. This is just my personal reasoning for not giving MRR, but others may feel differently.

      Hope that helps explain why their isn't more nonrestrictive PLR rights.
      Frith,
      Kayla
      I personally dont have a problem giving away mrr, rr or giveaway rights for that matter.

      You may not make much in actual sales but the advertisment of your affiliate links and the personal branding on myself in that niche is worth it to me.

      Cant forget any personal links or products as well

      Blogs
      Social media
      Etc...


      Amanda! Thanks for the plug!

      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      One thing people don't realize is that you don't actually have to change PLR to use it. You can use it in emails, as PDFs, turn it into videos, and so much more without even having to rewrite any of it.

      I think the biggest problem is a lot of people don't know how to use PLR.

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      Originally Posted by NACAdam View Post

      LOL hey man not to be shady but I honestly have never had any problems with treating PLR as if I had the master resale rights haha
      Not really great advice since that is illegal.
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      Originally Posted by NACAdam View Post

      LOL hey man not to be shady but I honestly have never had any problems with treating PLR as if I had the master resale rights haha
      You will notice that I "thanked" you for your comment. Only because it's a great reminder that shady people lurk under every shade tree, even if they claim "not to be shady". Must be nice to make up your own rules as you go along.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by bertuseng View Post

    Personally, I think that most PLR are not really true Private Label Rights, as the rights are quite restrictive. There are not many PLR that gets released as full PLR which means that you can sell Master resell rights and resell rights to it as well. So, personally I would like to see more Unrestricted type PLR.

    Please let me know what problems you have with PLR that get released and I will see how I can help you or tell you how you can solve those problems.

    Thanks.

    Bertus
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnHYW
      In my opinion, the biggest problem with PLR products is that I have to rewrite the whole PLR article before submitting it to article directories such as EzineArticles. Please take note that article directories require that articles submitted to their directories to pass Copyscape.
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      • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
        Originally Posted by JohnHYW View Post

        In my opinion, the biggest problem with PLR products is that I have to rewrite the whole PLR article before submitting it to article directories such as EzineArticles. Please take note that article directories require that articles submitted to their directories to pass Copyscape.

        Not true,

        As long as the article is YOUR content, it doesn't have to pass copyscape.


        It's still better to at least re-write the PLR before submitting it to article directories though.

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      • Profile picture of the author Winlin
        Originally Posted by JohnHYW View Post

        In my opinion, the biggest problem with PLR products is that I have to rewrite the whole PLR article before submitting it to article directories such as EzineArticles. Please take note that article directories require that articles submitted to their directories to pass Copyscape.
        PLR is not generally exclusive and is almost always sold to more than one party. If you want to avoid the problems you've described, you need to have content written exclusively for you and make certain that you have 100% ownership rights. That is, if you expect it not to be used elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    Personally I think most PLR is rehashed crap. However you can come across some good stuff, this ain't very often though.
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  • Profile picture of the author txconx
    I've thought about writing articles and selling packages but quite frankly, the fact that people misunderstand the rights and/or completely ignore them makes me rethink... and rethink again. I can't tell you how many article packs I've been sent by other people or downloaded where the rights are clearly outlined in the ZIP file - and they don't include resale rights or redistribution rights.

    The ugly truth about writing for niche sites is people don't want to pay what the writing is worth. They want top-quality writing - but they want to pay $5 or at most $10 per 500-word article. Or they'll download all the "free" crap PLR that's been redistributed and used hundreds of thousands of times and then come to WF and complain that it's crap.

    Sometimes, you get more than what you pay for but that's the exception, not the rule. Most of the time, you get exactly what you pay for. I understand the need to keep costs down, but imagine what the response would be if you went to a fine dining restaurant and asked if you could pay $5 for their half-pound Angus burger because, after all, you can get one for that price at Jack In The Box.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by txconx View Post

      Sometimes, you get more than what you pay for but that's the exception, not the rule. Most of the time, you get exactly what you pay for. I understand the need to keep costs down, but imagine what the response would be if you went to a fine dining restaurant and asked if you could pay $5 for their half-pound Angus burger because, after all, you can get one for that price at Jack In The Box.
      When you buy PLR, you are not buying an Angus burger. You are buying an Angus burger that has been chewed on by 100s of people. So how much should that be worth?

      I don't mind paying a bit for well written PLR, but the rights are so restrictive, I think the writer should just keep them to themselves. If I'm going to pay good money for content, it will be for unique articles for my use only.
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  • Profile picture of the author RevenueGal
    The only problem that I've had with plr is when people sell PLR rights to their own ebook or report that they've sold online in the past. You have to do a lot of editing on removing added links, personal stories and the word "I" throughout the report... 'I said this' or 'I did this' or 'I recommend this'...doesn't apply to me as the new author of the report.

    Sellers need to clarify that the plr being offered was a previously sold, personalized ebook or report. But, truthfully, I like to avoid these because they take me longer to edit than fresh plr content. On the other hand, if you take time to remove all the extra personal stuff, and freshen it up, then that would help my decision on perhaps buying it.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlenGeorgeson
    Well most likely PLR is garbage. Let's be honest here, most PLR packages suck. IMO it's better and faster to create a new product from scratch than reading 5 million crappy PLR eBooks and articles.

    Don't get me wrong. If you really take the time, and actually STUDY a huge amount of PLR products, you could create a good product. But most people won't do that anyway. So...you get the point.

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by AlenGeorgeson View Post

      Well most likely PLR is garbage. Let's be honest here, most PLR packages suck. IMO it's better and faster to create a new product from scratch than reading 5 million crappy PLR eBooks and articles.

      Don't get me wrong. If you really take the time, and actually STUDY a huge amount of PLR products, you could create a good product. But most people won't do that anyway. So...you get the point.

      Alen
      Well actually, there are a lot of very good PLR writers on this forum. The problem is that their PLR is so very dear to them, they restrict it to death.
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  • Profile picture of the author robbensalter
    Hey Guy's... here's my 2 cents. PLR is junk.
    There is no value added to your niches community by promoting junk material.

    Those who make money provide real value to their communities.
    Sell something of value, and you will be rewarded.

    PLR for the most part is not a sound business model.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
      A lot of people think I'm biased because I have my own PLR shop, but I am also an avid buyer and user of PLR. Once you learn how to find good PLR and use it properly, it is an amazing resource that can save you a lot of time and money. I wouldn't sell PLR if I didn't think it was actually helping people.

      Originally Posted by AlenGeorgeson View Post

      Well most likely PLR is garbage. Let's be honest here, most PLR packages suck. IMO it's better and faster to create a new product from scratch than reading 5 million crappy PLR eBooks and articles.

      Don't get me wrong. If you really take the time, and actually STUDY a huge amount of PLR products, you could create a good product. But most people won't do that anyway. So...you get the point.

      Alen
      If that is what you think, you are buying PLR from the wrong people. There is TONS of very high quality PLR out there. Take a look at some of the more well known PLR sellers here... Sure, if you are out there buying 1000 articles for $10, they are probably crap, but that is just because of where YOU are buying your PLR.

      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Well actually, there are a lot of very good PLR writers on this forum. The problem is that their PLR is so very dear to them, they restrict it to death.
      I understand that. My biggest issue is that I don't want people buying my PLR and putting it all into one of those giant 1000 article for $10 packs, so I don't offer resell rights. I've seen some of your threads and I know you build and flip websites. I assume you are usually looking for PLR that can be used on flipped sites? I've been thinking about adding that to my packs as of late.

      Originally Posted by robbensalter View Post

      Hey Guy's... here's my 2 cents. PLR is junk.
      There is no value added to your niches community by promoting junk material.

      Those who make money provide real value to their communities.
      Sell something of value, and you will be rewarded.

      PLR for the most part is not a sound business model.
      I agree there is no value added if you promote junk material, but it is up to you to find PLR that IS NOT junk if you want to use it. Not all PLR is junk. A lot of it is very high quality. Of course, I also believe that you should try and mix unique content in with your PLR and add a bit of yourself to the PLR you use.

      I can take a PLR article and edit it, maybe add and remove a bit to make it have more of my voice, and have it ready in around 10 minutes. If I'm writing a high quality blog post it can take anywhere from 30 minutes to several hours depending on how well I know the topic and how well the article is planned out in my head.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

        I understand that. My biggest issue is that I don't want people buying my PLR and putting it all into one of those giant 1000 article for $10 packs, so I don't offer resell rights. I've seen some of your threads and I know you build and flip websites. I assume you are usually looking for PLR that can be used on flipped sites? I've been thinking about adding that to my packs as of late.
        Yes ... I have a membership site that is limited to 50 for my blogs and would use high quality PLR more, but my sites come with resell rights, which would then violate most of the PLR rights I've seen. I've turned down a lot of PLR I was interested in because of it. I never buy those huge packs and not even close to be interested in just packaging PLR articles for resale.
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        • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Yes ... I have a membership site that is limited to 50 for my blogs and would use high quality PLR more, but my sites come with resell rights, which would then violate most of the PLR rights I've seen. I've turned down a lot of PLR I was interested in because of it. I never buy those huge packs and not even close to be interested in just packaging PLR articles for resale.
          Well, if one person is interested in these types of rights, it seems likely others will, so I'll have to start releasing some of my packs that people can use for website flipping.

          I set up my rights with the intention of keeping people from buying them and listing them on their own PLR sites or adding them to giant packages, but the way you use them doesn't bother me at all, I would just need to change the rights listed a bit.

          Thanks for the input!
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

            Well, if one person is interested in these types of rights, it seems likely others will, so I'll have to start releasing some of my packs that people can use for website flipping.

            I set up my rights with the intention of keeping people from buying them and listing them on their own PLR sites or adding them to giant packages, but the way you use them doesn't bother me at all, I would just need to change the rights listed a bit.

            Thanks for the input!
            Thanks ... do you have a list? I'll check out your signature to see if I can find one.

            EDIT: Found one
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    • Profile picture of the author Griffin Smith
      PLR is a great vehicle to use on many fronts..I think that the market is so clogged with PLR, people have a bad taste in their mouth because it comes from so many countless different sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shoot
    I personally just watch people buy PLR stuffs to have a cache of PLR stuffs to sell to others kinda sad and funny to me at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    Fascinating to see the different opinions.

    There is a lot of garbage PLR out there - most of it included in the many "thousands of PLR articles for $1 or free" offers. It's the same stuff over and over again, reused thousands of times already. Much of it was fact-free fluff to start with, and it hasn't improved with age.

    There is also a lot of good stuff. There are more PLR *writers* (not just resellers) around now than there have been in a long time, many of them good writers in their own right. All you have to do is pick up their free article "try us out" packs to see who is worth buying from.

    Actually the biggest problem IMO is choosing what to buy out of the smorgasbord of great stuff laid out, and getting time to make use of it!
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  • Profile picture of the author hassan001
    Hey guys what I know about PLR is its not 100% unique at all by Origin... 99% new plr I have seen are 70-30 or maximum 80-20... The major part is unique ofcourse... But there is some content that you can notice as copied....

    Well here is a quick tip.... (Buy only MRR)

    Benefits....

    Most of PLR's have only sales page, book and graphics but 99% of MRR products will have these all plus source files.....

    That is the reason I love to buy MRR Products.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark72
    I find that a lot of the PLR that I purchase is just badly written garbage wrapped up in shiny graphics. This sort of thing suckers me every time.

    It would be really helpful to be able to look at a sample before buying at some of the large online sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
      Originally Posted by Mark72 View Post

      I find that a lot of the PLR that I purchase is just badly written garbage wrapped up in shiny graphics. This sort of thing suckers me every time.

      It would be really helpful to be able to look at a sample before buying at some of the large online sites.
      A lot of reputable sellers have some kind of free sample if you opt-in to their list. That is a good place to start. And, of course, you can always unsubscribe if you don't want their updates and just want to check out their quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author marcuslim
    I think the biggest problem is not so much the PLR itself, but in how people use it without modifying it at all. Assuming the PLR is good, it is a great starting point for creating one's own products as it helps shortcut the research process, and research is the step that takes the most time in product creation. Ideally, the PLR should be repackaged and presented from a unique angle instead of just reselling it 'as is'.

    I think it might have been James Jones who said that he only buys PLR when he needs it and that he knows he'll take action on. Otherwise the tendency is to buy lots of PLR stuff that sits on your hard drive that collects dust.
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  • Profile picture of the author Serenia
    I have found some PLR articles are just not specific enough (at least not for my niche anyway) - they are very generic.
    Sometimes so generic (they waffle and dont tell you anything useful) they are not at all helpful....and I would have to edit or add to them to make them useful.
    So if that is the case then I see no reason to use that PLR article, and I might as write my own article or blog post - and keep all the rights....
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    • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
      Originally Posted by Serenia View Post

      I have found some PLR articles are just not specific enough (at least not for my niche anyway) - they are very generic.
      Sometimes so generic (they waffle and dont tell you anything useful) they are not at all helpful....and I would have to edit or add to them to make them useful.
      So if that is the case then I see no reason to use that PLR article, and I might as write my own article or blog post - and keep all the rights....
      I've had that issue too. One thing I find that helps is looking for people with bigger packs. Most people want 5 basic articles that anyone in the niche could use, but if you look at Tiffany Dow's site, she has packs with up to 52 articles and you get much more specific and diverse topics that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author luckystepho
    I think that Tiffany Dow has released some PLR packs with resell rights. If there is a demand for it it may be worth consideration as I can see Suzanne's points but can also understand PLR sellers restricting rights to keep the articles from being plastered all over the internet.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by luckystepho View Post

      I think that Tiffany Dow has released some PLR packs with resell rights. If there is a demand for it it may be worth consideration as I can see Suzanne's points but can also understand PLR sellers restricting rights to keep the articles from being plastered all over the internet.
      I bought hundreds of dollars of PLR from Tiffany, as she has very high quality PLR, however, when my site changed to resell rights blogs, I could not use her PLR any longer, per a clarification from her. That was sad
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  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    The OP was after feedback about PLR products.

    All of the posters in the thread seem to think that PLR is only for ebooks or articles.

    Not so.

    I have had good results from adapting and selling PLR tools and software products. OK, I often ditch or re-do the salespages and graphics but it saves a bunch of money hiring programmers and the like.

    Often I have found a product I like and use and, if PLR is available, I jump on it as i can then keep 100% of the profits and sell it as I want.

    The top link in my sig is a good example. I use the software product myself. I wrote the report myself as a pre-sell for the product. I made the app to deliver the report. I adapted the graphics on squeeze page myself. I also added a walkthrough video for the salespage. But the product, at the end of the day, is unchanged.
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  • Profile picture of the author sensei majid
    I find the platform to use them for newbies can be challenging as well. You have to have a delivery system... this trips most poeple up. Then you end up building other peoples list with all your hard work.

    Some PLR good most bad... point me to the promise land of PLR.
    thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author protectyoursales
    I don't have any problems with good quality PLR that I buy from someone who's clearly not just reselling someone else's janky PLR (eg: those 10K for $5 packs you can find on Fiverr et al), such as many of the sellers here on warrior forum. I know for a fact that there is GREAT stuff available here that does NOT require rehashing of any kind, although of course with PLR it's always recommended.

    I don't know why you would ever buy PLR for a niche that you've got no presence in, so I guess I'm not going to be able to comment on that part of the problem =/
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    • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
      Originally Posted by protectyoursales View Post

      I don't have any problems with good quality PLR that I buy from someone who's clearly not just reselling someone else's janky PLR (eg: those 10K for $5 packs you can find on Fiverr et al), such as many of the sellers here on warrior forum. I know for a fact that there is GREAT stuff available here that does NOT require rehashing of any kind, although of course with PLR it's always recommended.

      I don't know why you would ever buy PLR for a niche that you've got no presence in, so I guess I'm not going to be able to comment on that part of the problem =/
      Well... I bought 45 packs of PLR from Tiffany Dow today during her $1 sale... and about 2/3 of that is in niches I have no presence in, but I now have a great base to stand on as I start working in those niches. (Of course, how could I pass up that deal? I probably got well over $700 in PLR for $45.)
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      • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
        I would buy a lot more PLR if:
        - I knew I was buying from the source
        and/or
        - the publishers were a bit more forthcoming with how fresh it is
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        • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
          Originally Posted by mrdomains View Post

          I would buy a lot more PLR if:
          - I knew I was buying from the source
          and/or
          - the publishers were a bit more forthcoming with how fresh it is
          I would suggest looking for smaller PLR stores, like those owned by Warriors. Many owners are happy to answer emails asking questions like this.

          I get emails every once and a while from people asking how many copies of a pack have been sold, how long ago the packs were written and other questions like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
    Originally Posted by bertuseng View Post

    There are not many PLR that gets released as full PLR which means that you can sell Master resell rights and resell rights to it as well.

    Bertus
    You need to learn what PLR really means. PLR means you can label it and that is all it means.

    All other rights stand on their own and it is up to the vendor to decide which rights to pass on.

    And the more restrictive the rights the better the product holds it's value. The more liberal the faster they become worthless.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahparks
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    Something to remember is that the more garbage/low quality a type of PLR is, the more likely the person selling it is going to give it resale and master resale rights.

    Conversely, the higher the quality, the more likely they are to restrict it.
    This makes quite a lot of sense. I can understand from the perspective of someone trying to make money off of PLR that unrestricted is preferable, but unrestricted also often carries a hidden message - why is it unrestricted. Almost without exception in life, you get what you pay for.

    I myself am in the process of launching a PLR version of my online drawing instruction video series which is extremely high quality instruction. I've not yet seen another online drawing instruction course out there better and this is my niche so I'm qualified to say that. If I sold unrestricted PLR, there's no telling what could happen to my content after "generations" of cuts and recuts, abbreviations, editing, etc. I care about the quality of my product that will reach the customers who most need it, so I want to take steps to ensure that even if someone has purchased the PLR for it, it will remain intact and high-quality. The aspiring artists who eventually purchase the products are my main goal, people I want to provide value to.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    John brings up a good point, that of citing sources. My daughter has been writing PLR articles for our store and she brought up the same point.

    At first I didn't think it was worthwhile since no current PLR that I know of does so, but then... hmmm... it could be a selling point. After all, if someone is rewriting those articles, being able to go to the sources would be useful. So our most recent article packs include a separate file of sources.
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    • Profile picture of the author stafford
      Thanks, JohnMcCabe and kevinw1,

      I've been thinking of adding a resource file to my plr packs, at least the ones that could use a resource file.
      As a freelance writer, I've been accustomed to citing sources. It almost feels odd not to do it with PLR.

      You've both given me a lot to think about and maybe add to my offerings. Thank you for your input.

      Patti
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    • Profile picture of the author stafford
      This is off topic, but is there some magic to make my picture show on the sidebar? It's on my profile page, but not in the threads. I have it checked to show my picture, but it doesn't. I wondered if maybe you had to reach a certain number of posts first?

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zomman
    PLR has its purpose, if you use it wise than lots of things can be done with it.
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