Hiring Writers from the Phillipines

by Billll
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After reading posts on this excellent website it looks like the best route for me is to hire some writers in the Phillipines to re-write some of my original content and produce some other materials for my site.

What is the best way to hire someone? I read a post here saying Craigslist, but is there another way?

Do you pay by the word? Or by assignment. Do you pay when the work is done or 1/2 upfront.

If there is already a thread answering my questions, please post the link.

Much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
    I suggest you just go straight to the Warriors for Hire section - we've got some great writers here

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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
      Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

      I suggest you just go straight to the Warriors for Hire section - we've got some great writers here

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      I agree. If you're looking for cheap writers then definitely glance in the Warriors For Hire section because there are some really cheap services that go for extremely low rates and write quality material.

      If you want to hire a full time writer then that's the only time I would suggest you search for a Filipino. It's hard to find quality Filipino writers though; I usually use them for customer service, web development, design, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Canlas
    I've hired Filipino writers many times, and I would say 8/10 you'd either get very low quality articles or articles that are straight up plagiarized. I now mostly hire them for articles that I use for backlinks. If you need quality content, I'd suggest hiring someone from this forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Billll
      Thanks for the replies.
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      • Profile picture of the author Billll
        Can anyone share what type of fees are common?
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  • Profile picture of the author Simin
    Go to oDesk, create an account. Create a new jobs. Any start interviewing applicant.
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    • Profile picture of the author Billll
      Originally Posted by Simin View Post

      Go to oDesk, create an account. Create a new jobs. Any start interviewing applicant.
      Done. And thanks for your advice.

      Any other places? I'm looking to give someone a heck of a lot of work over the next 5 years.
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      • Profile picture of the author opiel
        Billll, I have over 4500 articles published at Ezine Articles and I can tell a thing or two about hiring writers.

        I know it is utterly shameless on my part but you may want to click the link below and save yourself a lot of headache.
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      • Originally Posted by Billll View Post

        Done. And thanks for your advice.

        Any other places? I'm looking to give someone a heck of a lot of work over the next 5 years.
        Hi Bill,

        Since you'll be giving them a lot of work,why not hire a Filipino writer full time? That way you can also train them to do other tasks like linkbuilding, article submission, WordPress (I actually learned WP and a bit of HTML while working as writer). Some of the best places I know of to look for people would be bestjobs.ph and onlinejobs.ph
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    • Profile picture of the author mrjosco
      Originally Posted by Simin View Post

      Go to oDesk, create an account. Create a new jobs. Any start interviewing applicant.
      This seems like simple advice, but it is pretty good! On oDesk you can get many applications for one job.

      You can weed out most of them just by their application letter. However, with a lot of work, I have found two INCREDIBLE article writers from oDesk. Their rates are very low and they write better than many native English speakers I have purchased articles from.

      I have pretty high standards for my writers, so it I have to admit it can be difficult for me to get good writers. Every now and then I have to hire an extra writer to complete a project and 4 times out of 5 I have to edit their work - but the few writers I have found that are good are REALLY good and I will do anything I can to keep them working for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Billll
        Originally Posted by mrjosco View Post

        This seems like simple advice, but it is pretty good! On oDesk you can get many applications for one job.

        You can weed out most of them just by their application letter. However, with a lot of work, I have found two INCREDIBLE article writers from oDesk. Their rates are very low and they write better than many native English speakers I have purchased articles from.

        I have pretty high standards for my writers, so it I have to admit it can be difficult for me to get good writers. Every now and then I have to hire an extra writer to complete a project and 4 times out of 5 I have to edit their work - but the few writers I have found that are good are REALLY good and I will do anything I can to keep them working for me.
        Can you introduce them to me?
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    oDesk is another great way to find people.
    You can funnel options to get the best people (such as choosing people with 5/5 English, 4.5/5+ rating and over 1000 hours worked.
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    • Profile picture of the author Billll
      Thanks.

      I'm looking for people to re-work unique original content.
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  • Profile picture of the author feliciayapsl
    You can go to elance.com or freelancer.com. I've found good philippine writers from these sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Filipinos speak conversational english, but writing good english is even difficult to find among native English speakers. Just think about how many terrible writers you see on boards that are native English?

    Most filipino writers you hire will be difficult to filter. I tried a week ago craigslist Manila? finding one. just for backup. No responses zero. 2 yrs ago I would have gotten 30 responses. I guess they are all on fiverr now
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  • Profile picture of the author sshusain
    Fiverr.com is the best place, you really get good people there.

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  • Profile picture of the author jasono
    You may also find good ones at onlinejobs.ph or directory.outsourcingautopilot.com. I suggest you pay them by the number of words they write.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Lancheres
    Whoa,

    Ok... I see a lot of bad advice here...

    First, Where NOT to hire people from.

    You don't get writers from Fiverr unless you want crap. As much as I love the warrior forum, I wouldn't hire from here either (because most people here are in the marketing mindset. They see posts of people making 10k every day, so if you're paying them 3.50$/hour, they won't be happy)

    Second, you hire people from big job sites:

    1. On Odesk you'll get a few, but they are competing for many assignments... not a bad first choice if you're just starting off. You'll want to quickly "get them off the site" once you find someone you like (even if this is against their TOS)

    2. Freelancer.com is great for more technical things, I find good people there but once again, there is a lot of competition so you get people that are job whores. (not what you're looking for)

    3. Philippine directories are great (craiglist, jobstreet.ph, and a few others.) Just Google "philippines jobs" and you'll find a bunch. If you want an excellent writer, then find someone that's a great writer... and someone that's not into internet marketing.

    When you post a job on those sites, you'll usually get 8-10 replies and it should be fairly easy to choose from there.

    Have a Skype interview, find the one you like the most and pay them hourly with Paypal.

    Start by paying them daily (Offer them 3-5$/hour) at first (for the first week or so). This will build trust on both sides.

    Then move to paying them weekly... and eventually you might want to increase it to twice a month or even monthly, but it will depend on your relationship with the person.

    That's really the best way to find a great writer that does excellent work.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author webmazter
      Nicely said Eric
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    • Profile picture of the author PlatinumLady
      Originally Posted by Eric Lancheres View Post

      Whoa,

      Ok... I see a lot of bad advice here...

      First, Where NOT to hire people from.

      You don't get writers from Fiverr unless you want crap. As much as I love the warrior forum, I wouldn't hire from here either (because most people here are in the marketing mindset. They see posts of people making 10k every day, so if you're paying them 3.50$/hour, they won't be happy)

      Second, you hire people from big job sites:

      1. On Odesk you'll get a few, but they are competing for many assignments... not a bad first choice if you're just starting off. You'll want to quickly "get them off the site" once you find someone you like (even if this is against their TOS)

      2. Freelancer.com is great for more technical things, I find good people there but once again, there is a lot of competition so you get people that are job whores. (not what you're looking for)

      3. Philippine directories are great (craiglist, jobstreet.ph, and a few others.) Just Google "philippines jobs" and you'll find a bunch. If you want an excellent writer, then find someone that's a great writer... and someone that's not into internet marketing.

      When you post a job on those sites, you'll usually get 8-10 replies and it should be fairly easy to choose from there.

      Have a Skype interview, find the one you like the most and pay them hourly with Paypal.

      Start by paying them daily (Offer them 3-5$/hour) at first (for the first week or so). This will build trust on both sides.

      Then move to paying them weekly... and eventually you might want to increase it to twice a month or even monthly, but it will depend on your relationship with the person.

      That's really the best way to find a great writer that does excellent work.

      All the best,
      I have used writers from the Phillipines in the past. I was lucky to have a Filipino friend who recommended a couple of Filipino teachers who did a near perfect job and for reasonable fees. I think I paid $45 for fourteen 900 word articles.
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      • Profile picture of the author Boogie40
        If you are looking to hire Philippines writers to supply you with content for your website, I have an alternative idea to present to you. Try an American article writer living in the Philippines. The reason most website owners try to use Filipino writers is because they do work for less than almost anyone in affiliate marketing.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmanjack
          Originally Posted by Boogie40 View Post

          If you are looking to hire Philippines writers to supply you with content for your website, I have an alternative idea to present to you. Try an American article writer living in the Philippines. The reason most website owners try to use Filipino writers is because they do work for less than almost anyone in affiliate marketing.
          That is a pretty good idea. I am an American living in Thailand and I have done work for a whole lot less than what i would charge if i lived in the USA.

          Come to think of it most Americans working as teachers here only get paid around $1,000 a month. I bet a lot of them would like to supplement their income with a little article writing.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
            There are a few things you can do to screen out bad candidates.

            -Make sure your job description is very detailed, explaining everything you require of them.

            -At the bottom of the job description write something like.... "If you have read all of this application and understand it post the word "Dolphin" at the start of your application.

            -Ask for a small sample article (100 words) on the keyword of your choosing and state that candidates who can provide this sample will have a much better chance of being hired.

            -If using oDesk or a similar site always check their English spelling test scores and look for feedback from previous jobs they've taken on that are similar to the one you're offering.
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      • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
        Originally Posted by PlatinumLady View Post

        I have used writers from the Phillipines in the past. I was lucky to have a Filipino friend who recommended a couple of Filipino teachers who did a near perfect job and for reasonable fees. I think I paid $45 for fourteen 900 word articles.
        Wow! You only paid $45 for 14 900-word articles. Impressive, you really got it cheap.
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      Originally Posted by Eric Lancheres View Post

      Whoa,

      Ok... I see a lot of bad advice here...
      Originally Posted by Eric Lancheres View Post

      1. On Odesk you'll get a few, but they are competing for many assignments... not a bad first choice if you're just starting off. You'll want to quickly "get them off the site" once you find someone you like (even if this is against their TOS)
      What's that about bad advice? :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author ahweiner
    I have used Easy Outsource (www.easyoutsource.com) with pretty good results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Austin357
    Eric has some very good tips on his post. You have to ask them for a quick trial run to see how they actually write with the topic you requested. You have to interview and sort through a lot of people to find the quality gems. If you can bump up your hourly a bit then you can find better people faster. Still have to sort hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author David328
    Hey guys,

    If I hire a writer on Odesk, Freelancer.com, elance.com, etc. Can I pay per article? If so for a 400 word article what is the going rate?
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Odesk, elance, etc.

    You can find some decent writers on the "write-for-hire" sites as well. Anywhere where you see a ton of great feedback for their writing. But be careful of fake reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author marielleliane
    Hello, I am a freelance writer from the Philippines, I want to apply, I hope we can communicate with each other so that you can test my writing skills.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miller009
    It is said that Writers.ph is also for Philippine freelancers. Probably you may check this site for more information.
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  • Profile picture of the author bartm
    These days you can get writers in the USA or UK for the same price... You just have to find the right person. Freelancer.com or fiverr.com is great to start with low risk.
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    • Profile picture of the author danaipan
      I would recommend Peopleperhour.com. There are great writers there with very fair prices, amazing quality and really fast delivery time.
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  • Go for the Warriors for Hire or for those freelancer sites.

    The most commonly used modes of payment is the contractual, project or per-job basis. Of course this is good for the contractor (you) because you will only pay after the project is done. This is, however, a bit concerning for freelancers because they are not assured of payment.

    Other contractors have some sort of a retainer basis where they pay the writers a fixed fee per period regardless of what or when jobs arrive.

    Anyway, the best way is just to pay per project (1 article or a group of articles).
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  • Profile picture of the author therichb
    Location actually doesnt matters a lot, even we see guys from big countries working on content & providing us spinned copy. So if you are not a part of a community, where a trusted provider can be found, we must find someone here in WF in the hire section which is possibly more better than anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tanya E
    You may need to test non-US writers for their writing skills. Though you can find good writers sometimes outside the US, UK and other English speaking countries, I have found that foreign(non-English) writers tend to make errors when they convert words and phrases from their native language into English. As a result when you publish your articles on your website a keen observer with an eye for detail will definitely spot errors made by a person whose first language is not English. Hence you need to weigh the cost of exposing your outsourced articles against the savings from cheaper rates for articles. Good writers in the Philippines may charge as much as US writer would charge for an article.
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  • Profile picture of the author OPTIMUSMKTG
    Originally Posted by Billll View Post

    After reading posts on this excellent website it looks like the best route for me is to hire some writers in the Phillipines to re-write some of my original content and produce some other materials for my site.

    What is the best way to hire someone? I read a post here saying Craigslist, but is there another way?

    Do you pay by the word? Or by assignment. Do you pay when the work is done or 1/2 upfront.

    If there is already a thread answering my questions, please post the link.

    Much appreciated.
    Been there, done that. Lesson learned.

    Personally, I don't believe in outsourcing to Non-Native English speakers. From past experience, it turned out to be too much of a pain because 99% of the time I ended up having to rewrite/edit the articles myself.

    If you're paying $2.50 for a 500-750 word article. Do you really expect the quality of the work to be top notch? Expect spun PLRs (eBooks) or regurgitated web content.

    Don't be cheap because this is an area where you often get what you pay for. Therefore, invest a few extra dollars in hiring a quality Native English speaker/writer from the U.S.A., England, Australia, etc. Just my two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    Make sure to checkout outsourcefactor.com

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    Hire direct. Train your employees.
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    • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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      Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post

      Make sure to checkout outsourcefactor.com
      I tried to check it out and there's very few contractors in there.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
        Originally Posted by contentwriting360 View Post

        I tried to check it out and there's very few contractors in there.
        Several hundred already. Closing in on a thousand. Hardly "very few". The site is geared towards people who want to work for you FULL TIME, not freelance.
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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    Originally Posted by Billll View Post

    Do you pay by the word? Or by assignment. Do you pay when the work is done or 1/2 upfront.
    Though this is just a 're-incarnated' thread, I'll share my two cents.

    Our writers are from the Philippines and they've been with us for years already. We pay them per word count requirement on SEO-based articles, web contents, product descriptions, product reviews, press releases, e-books, and reports. Though they write really very well, their work needs to be 'Americanized' so as to say. That's the reason why our copy editors (final proofreaders) are native English editors who are copy editors by profession. On top of their regular tasks as editors (fixing grammar issues, placing proper punctuation marks, ensuring that the client's requirements were met by the writer, etc), they are responsible in 'Americanizing' the content, putting a little humor on the content, adding some finishing touches of an English culture somehow, and things like that.

    Writers from the Philippines are literally very good (of course, you need to find only the best) but you need to have a native English editor to put some finishing touches for the reasons I stated above.

    I hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor
    I used to hire people from the Philippines, gave them 50% up front and 50% when the work was finished.

    Recently I've been outsourcing to people on Freelancer and some of them are really great writers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    I've hired many Philippines writers and got acceptable articles. But it was very difficult to keep connections for a long time. Sometimes they say No power, Flooding, Health problems etc ...
    It's a big problem with them. we can't rely on them for a long term business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by Rukshan View Post

      I've hired many Philippines writers and got acceptable articles. But it was very difficult to keep connections for a long time. Sometimes they say No power, Flooding, Health problems etc ...
      It's a big problem with them. we can't rely on them for a long term business.
      It's been 2 weeks of flooding here and the death tool now raises to 51.
      I have 16 writers and fortunately, only one is affected but got her connection back last night....
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  • Profile picture of the author usainbolt
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    Textbroker dot com is another good hiring source
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