Clickbank, you are kidding me, right?!

by WillR
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Anyone who has anything to do with Internet Marketing probably heard about all the new rules Clickbank put in place near the end of last year. These rules were an attempt to clean up their marketplace and rid it of ridiculous and absurd income claims... so they told us. They also wanted to start verifying any income claims that were made.

Sounds reasonable, right?

Well you can imagine my disbelief when I log into my Clickbank dashboard this morning and see this paid advertisement inside the Clickbank membership area.




Note the two green lines one after another


A smart person would think Clickbank would never risk using any silly income shots like that again, especially not on their own website. But to add insult to injury is the fact the image has clearly been doctored. Look at the four colored lines under the 'Daily Sales Snapshot' heading.

Anyone who has a Clickbank account knows it goes Green Grey Green Grey etc etc. Yet the person who faked this screenshot didn't even have the smarts to at least get that right. He has put two green lines one after another. Talk about idiotic.

I know this advertisement is not created by Clickbank but I'm also pretty certain they look at and approve any of those ads that run inside their membership area. So Clickbank has found no problems with this ad yet if you were to try the same thing on your Clickbank salespage, you would be told to go elsewhere.

Do Clickbank honestly think people are going to take them and their rules seriously when they are such hypocrites? It's really no wonder the FTC is always breathing down their neck.
#clickbank #kidding
  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    Wow...I've been with Clickbank for several years now, and promote several of their products outside of the IM/MMO niches...it's pretty sad to see something like this from one of the biggest affiliate merchant processors in the industry.

    Crap like this is why many people believe the whole industry to be one giant scam-fest.
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  • Profile picture of the author FreshMedia
    Nice catch. I couldn't stop laughing. Clickbank needs to clean it's act first before asking anyone to do the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author harrydog
      I personally would not buy anything off clickbank now. Virtually every sales page in the IM niche is over hyped and many of them are "Click a button and get Rich" type offerings. Dont trust anything on there any more
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by harrydog View Post

        I personally would not buy anything off clickbank now. Virtually every sales page in the IM niche is over hyped and many of them are "Click a button and get Rich" type offerings. Dont trust anything on there any more
        You will find that the 'Get Rich Quick' type products are actually only a small percentage of the whole Clickbank marketplace -- it's just we happen to hear about those ones the most because of all the hyped up launches surrounding them. But there are quite a lot of legitimate products selling outside of the IM niche.

        But I do know what you mean.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by harrydog View Post

        I personally would not buy anything off clickbank now. Virtually every sales page in the IM niche is over hyped and many of them are "Click a button and get Rich" type offerings.
        Do you're allowing your distaste for many of the sales pages of one specific niche (a distaste which I share myself, I must say) to blind you to about 499 other niches, too, Mark?

        Where's the logic in that ...
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      • Profile picture of the author Ord Allenbea
        That is not true! My sales page has no hype at all on it, it says exactly what the product does. This is no Get Rich Scheme either, its a real membership program.

        Originally Posted by harrydog View Post

        I personally would not buy anything off clickbank now. Virtually every sales page in the IM niche is over hyped and many of them are "Click a button and get Rich" type offerings. Dont trust anything on there any more
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  • Profile picture of the author dAVEcd
    I knew there was something with that advertisement lol, could not bring up what it could be, but now I know haha
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  • Profile picture of the author Ewan1998
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    Saw this when I logged into onto my dashboard too. Wasn't actually aware of this new rule but it's pretty ironic, especially from a large company like Clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
    Originally Posted by WillR View Post

    Anyone who has a Clickbank account knows it goes Green Grey Green Grey etc etc. Yet the person who faked this screenshot didn't even have the smarts to at least get that right. He has put two green lines one after another. Talk about idiotic.
    Not only that, but the lines should be of varying widths as well!
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Are those ads approved by ClickBank though or are they
    just running that ad network on their pages. I'm not
    sure they would have approved that ad.

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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      Are those ads approved by ClickBank though or are they
      just running that ad network on their pages. I'm not
      sure they would have approved that ad.

      -Ray Edwards
      I'm not 100% sure but...

      "All advertising creative, including landing page, is subject to ClickBank approval."
      http://www.clickbank.com/featured/ad...Conditions.pdf

      I'm not too fussed either way though. People are still going to look at them as hypocrites. I am certain they have staff who are inside the dashboard all day long and would have seen that ad. It's not the first time I have seen an ad like this.

      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      Sorry guys, it was late at night and my photoshop guy was asleep, so I threw that image together right quick. I really do make $50k every 32 seconds though. Boom while I was posting this - another $50k LOL.
      Prove it. I won't believe it until I see a screenshot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    Sorry guys, it was late at night and my photoshop guy was asleep, so I threw that image together right quick. I really do make $50k every 32 seconds though. Boom while I was posting this - another $50k LOL.
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    • Profile picture of the author rprieto60
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      Sorry guys, it was late at night and my photoshop guy was asleep, so I threw that image together right quick. I really do make $50k every 32 seconds though. Boom while I was posting this - another $50k LOL.
      That's nothing... I make <holding pinkie to corner of mouth> ONE BILLION DOLLARS!

      And I do it every day by clicking my mouse and my heels together three times while saying, "There's no place like my home page."

      hahahahahaha!
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    That's bad. I noticed the other day and I thought it was photoshopped as all the bars go the same length, but I never noticed the colours was wrong.

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      This does not change my opinion whatsoever of the Clickbank products I sell. They all have a 60-day 100% money back guarantee, which is prominently emphasized in every contact point with prospects.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Do you're allowing your distaste for many of the sales pages of one specific niche (a distaste which I share myself, I must say) to blind you to about 499 other niches, too, Mark?

        Where's the logic in that ...
        Exactly. Within any large medium of it's nature, online or offline, the "make money" niches are full of fake claims-- some better than others.

        Do not allow this small percentage of (desperate, usually broke) marketers cloud your vision to the many other great products and services that are available on Clickbank or in magazines, etc.



        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        This does not change my opinion whatsoever of the Clickbank products I sell. They all have a 60-day 100% money back guarantee, which is prominently emphasized in every contact point with prospects.

        The refund policy does make sales easier.

        Unfortunately, some of the vendors that I have enjoyed working with are no longer placing quality, high-priced products there because the instantaneous, no questions asked policy makes it a treasure trove for pirates.

        Obviously there are thousands more vendors to choose from, but after years of making money together, a few of these guys are my very real friends. It sucks to be forced into Amazon or Payspree to continue working with them.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

          The refund policy does make sales easier.

          Unfortunately, some of the vendors that I have enjoyed working with are no longer placing quality, high-priced products there because the instantaneous, no questions asked policy makes it a treasure trove for pirates.
          It's very hard for me to have any sympathy for vendors using excessive hype that does not match product quality. In this respect, Clickbank's refund policy is actually an extremely fair and attractive feature. As an affiliate promoting over 300 products, this policy has never been abused in any of my niches. In fact I have found what dramatically increases conversions is to poke fun and ridicule vendor sales pages, then giving "recommendations" based on personal reviews of the products. And being highly protective of my customers, my opinions, marketing jokes and the refund policy are emblazoned conspicuously in all of my promotions. This method of realistically lowering expectation levels can dramatically raise the level of conversion rates, and lead to incrementally higher end sales. But, that's just me.
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            From who knows when I've developed CB ad blindness and I'm quite happy about that.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            It's very hard for me to have any sympathy for vendors using excessive hype that does not match product quality. In this respect, Clickbank's refund policy is actually an extremely fair and attractive feature. As an affiliate promoting over 300 products, this policy has never been abused in any of my niches. In fact I have found what dramatically increases conversions is to poke fun and ridicule vendor sales pages, then giving "recommendations" based on personal reviews of the products. And being highly protective of my customers, my opinions, marketing jokes and the refund policy are emblazoned conspicuously in all of my promotions. This method of realistically lowering expectation levels can dramatically raise the level of conversion rates, and lead to incrementally higher end sales. But, that's just me.

            Make no mistake, I have little sympathy for such vendors as well. The handful I am writing about are some of my favorite human beings, who have until recently produced only high quality products. Because I have never placed any of my own products into any affiliate program, I have no way to see whether or not these piracy issues are being exaggerated. But these vendors have earned my trust, and so I take their word for it, and defend them accordingly, and I will continue to do so unless and until I am given some reason not to trust that what they say about their specific products being pirated from fake Clickbank purchases (immediate refunds) is true.


            I do like that method... I realized as I read it that I have used it on accident a couple of times, but I never thought of it as a complete mini-strategy unto itself. Subtle, obviously effective, much coolness!! Unfortunately, I have recently learned that I am not as funny as I like to think I am...


            Indeed Paul, I do believe that your business model has given you a lot of flexibility when it comes to dropping things that don't work for you, whether vendors, syndication outlets, or most anything else... You market a lot more products in a lot more niches to a lot more people than I do. (And I would venture to say, than most people anywhere do!)

            My (slightly) educated guess also suggests that over the last 14+ years you have built a customer list in the millions, whereas I have spent the last decade focused on building a list of buyers that is (optimistically) some 10% of your own.

            Niche focus is probably a large part of that as well. While I have always hit targets of opportunity in any niche, my focus has always been in those few markets that actually hold my interest.


            Clickbank has ever been a cold, emotionless marketplace for me, whereas I have met many vendors and customers in person, and at least spoken with most of them on the phone at some point or another. So because I have built my entire business (until very, very recently) through forum marketing and building friendships, it only makes sense that my own loyalty would always be to the people I know over the marketplaces which I have merely used.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryannull
    Clickbank is a good way to accept credit cards. The last few years, its been a cesspool of scam artists.

    I use to go on there just to ready the copywriting styles, and I am always amused by them. Sometimes I get bored and just read sales copies to pick up new techniques. Anyways, you see screenshot after screenshot of "supposed" income they make. By the time you get to the call of action, you don't know if they're selling you their income images or a product. They're just simply trying to hard to convince the reader that's what they make, when they can't even convince themselves and confuse the offer. It's truly sad.

    When Clickbank made those new rules, I, as well as most other thought it would clean out the scammers. Evidently, that didn't happen, but I am sure that the FTC will start cracking down on them and the merchants.
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    clickbank is blocked by WOT (web of trust) which seems to be more or less orchestrated by Facebook (or am i paranoid?). This web of trust is a total disgrace and totally unfair. Indeed CB should do a big clean-up and get rid of lots of junk that is sold there, but it is a good platform and offers great security for the buyers
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  • Profile picture of the author kingrich21470
    and the other thing that clickbank as that rolling income pay...

    If you believe that, i have a front beach home to sell you in AZ


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  • Profile picture of the author sensei majid
    Click bank is great fro buyers but sellers hmmm. Im more troubled by those overwhelming refund rates.But on second thought i hate clickbank products... WSO products fifty times better a 100 times cheaper.
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  • Profile picture of the author megalinktraffic
    Thank you for providing valuable information and alerting !
    which will save newbies dollars ..keep up the good work..
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  • Profile picture of the author kingrich21470
    so we all agree that screenshots are not truly income earnings?


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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hersh
    Here's the trick for this ad.

    Instead of saying "I'm Making $xxx,xxxx" they're saying "would you like your Clickbank account to look like this?". This is the new way to bypass the rules. You're not claiming anything, you're just showing "others" results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Newbieee
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Anyone who has anything to do with Internet Marketing probably heard about all the new rules Clickbank put in place near the end of last year. These rules were an attempt to clean up their marketplace and rid it of ridiculous and absurd income claims... so they told us. They also wanted to start verifying any income claims that were made.

      Sounds reasonable, right?

      Well you can imagine my disbelief when I log into my Clickbank dashboard this morning and see this paid advertisement inside the Clickbank membership area.




      Note the two green lines one after another


      A smart person would think Clickbank would never risk using any silly income shots like that again, especially not on their own website. But to add insult to injury is the fact the image has clearly been doctored. Look at the four colored lines under the 'Daily Sales Snapshot' heading.

      Anyone who has a Clickbank account knows it goes Green Grey Green Grey etc etc. Yet the person who faked this screenshot didn't even have the smarts to at least get that right. He has put two green lines one after another. Talk about idiotic.

      I know this advertisement is not created by Clickbank but I'm also pretty certain they look at and approve any of those ads that run inside their membership area. So Clickbank has found no problems with this ad yet if you were to try the same thing on your Clickbank salespage, you would be told to go elsewhere.

      Do Clickbank honestly think people are going to take them and their rules seriously when they are such hypocrites? It's really no wonder the FTC is always breathing down their neck.
      Hahaha i get what you mean. This has nothing to do with clickbank products, but clickbank management.


      Originally Posted by TiffLee View Post

      You are joking, right?

      ... if the stats are "real" then why did he have to Photoshop his earnings proof?

      Not exactly "backed up by proof," as you mentioned.
      lol. maybe he just like the colour green. =D
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
      Originally Posted by Mike Hersh View Post

      Here's the trick for this ad.

      Instead of saying "I'm Making ,xxxx" they're saying "would you like your Clickbank account to look like this?". This is the new way to bypass the rules. You're not claiming anything, you're just showing "others" results.
      I don't think you bypass the rule called false advertising. It's actually more like a law.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarconi
    don't believe everything you see ! But who and how can you trust someone that tells you how he made his fortune on internet?
    try to google his name i supose is a good idea !
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    • Profile picture of the author r30ducez
      Hahaha! That's funny, I'm pretty sure I've seen that ad before, can't believe I missed that.

      But really, how was this allowed to slide, I'm suprised the vendors graphics guy didn't catch it either. Must have forgot to push the save button in photoshop for the final copy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    Nice one - another company not walking its walk.

    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author steven Clayden
    Originally Posted by precious007 View Post

    The guy behind that ad is Mack Michaels and the stats are real.

    If you follow the ad you'll land on Millionaire Society and those are just about his earnings from that website alone.

    I see nothing wrong with that particular ad as long as the earnings are backed up by proof.

    If you were suckered into buying his membership - or believe that you were suckered then that's another story.
    Mack Michaels, wasn`t that the dude behind Maverick Money Makers?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rick W
      Originally Posted by steven Clayden View Post

      Mack Michaels, wasn`t that the dude behind Maverick Money Makers?
      Yes thats the same Mack Michaels
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanphillips
    Oh Dang! What other places other than clickbank are there?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Im more interested in what the other one says
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  • Profile picture of the author marcelomusza
    Guys I am using Clickbank as well to promote a product in the Wealth niche. However I did see that Screenshot and what you are saying is very reasonable. It should be a professional place and an ad like that is a disrepect to all of us that are working with them as marketers. Thumbs down to Clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennisknows
    I thought when you make income claims and you're big in the public eye like that, the FTC would want to see proof of that income?

    I actually saw this same pic.. Didn't catch that tho. I took a pic to show how my account was when I wasn't making any money compared to others tat were..

    More reason why I don't really like to push those fly by night clickbank products.. i've sold a few but until I can use them myself and leave an honest review, I won't be doing any anytime soon..

    Great catch dude...
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    WillR, I've noticed this ad inside Clickbank for a while now. It doesn't bother me, but that's because of my assumption.

    You neglected to post the second screen of the ad as it's a dynamic ad and it puts it into perspective.

    It says

    "Wish your Clickbank stats looked like that? Learn How!"

    I took this to mean that the stats were not real, but a representation of what you "wished" you could have in your Clickbank account. I don't see any guarantee of income or any claim that the stats are meant to be real. It's just advertising and you see this exact same kind of advertising on television every day. Lots of stories that aren't real, but meant to give you an emotional reaction to what they're selling. And that's all I see here.

    But if that's not clear to other people, then fine. But that's just how I see it.

    I think this is very different than having a sales page with fake screenshots and pretending they are real. I don't think they are pretending they are real here, it's just a dream of what you want. Just like you dream to be surrounded by pretty girls when you drink beer, but that's not always going to happen. But the beer commercial doesn't promise you will be surrounded by pretty girls in bikinis if you drink their beer, but that's the emotional reaction they want you to have, and it's perfectly legal. As there's no guarantee being made here, I don't see the problem.

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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      WillR, I've noticed this ad inside Clickbank for a while now. It doesn't bother me, but that's because of my assumption.

      You neglected to post the second screen of the ad as it's a dynamic ad and it puts it into perspective.

      It says

      "Wish your Clickbank stats looked like that? Learn How!"

      I took this to mean that the stats were not real, but a representation of what you "wished" you could have in your Clickbank account. I don't see any guarantee of income or any claim that the stats are meant to be real. It's just advertising and you see this exact same kind of advertising on television every day. Lots of stories that aren't real, but meant to give you an emotional reaction to what they're selling. And that's all I see here.

      But if that's not clear to other people, then fine. But that's just how I see it.
      I appreciate what you are saying, but c'mon. The reason they have used the animated gif with two different screens is because they want people to believe that is an earnings screenshot before they see the other screen. If anything I think it would come under deceptive advertising.

      A lot of people are not going to see it the way it was maybe intended and they (the vendor) aren't silly, they know that. Otherwise they wouldn't have replicated the look of a real Clickbank account. There was a good reason they did that.

      Regardless of what one screen or the next screen says, my main point is that this is inside of Clickbank's membership area. A company that has recently made a stance against all this kind of stuff (or so they say). There are ways to get around every law but if you were Clickbank, would you be silly enough to let ads like this run inside your members area regardless of what the intentions were behind the ad?

      I sure wouldn't... and that's my point.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Heh, you mean people fake screenshots of earnings?

    I had no idea anyone would ever do such a dastardly thing!

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  • Profile picture of the author Austin357
    I noticed that too when I logged in. How many times have we seen doctored screen shots in tons of Sales pages??

    Clickbanks hypocrisy is funny!
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    I have to be clear that i DO hate fake income claims and fake screen shots, but just my initial impression of this ad when I first saw it was not that I was supposed to believe that the screen shot was real, just a dream of what you want. I thought it was supposed to be obvious that it was just a representation and not real. That's how I saw it...
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffreyhuan
    I saw this ad every time I logged into my ClickBank account for a long time.

    It is ironical for ClickBank to actually accept this ad into their member area.

    I logged into my account just now and the screenshot has been changed.

    Is this real? Haha, I doubt.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Penberthy
    This is hilarious!...Sort it out Clickbank!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Young And Opulent View Post

    Maybe one day people will learn to quit buying that MMO crap.
    They do. Some learn that every day.

    But half of them change their minds the next day, and the other half are replaced by other people instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author capitalalchemy
    That's funny you say that, because I clicked on that same ad and watched the video.

    I can't remember the exact details, but he shows a screen shot of all the money he made in such and such time, and it's VERY quick, but if you pause it, the sum of money he makes per transaction per day does not add up to what he claims.

    Plus you can see in that capture the affiliate and the vendor I.D.s and many times they are both the same.

    Hard to image that someone doing 6 sales a day of $17 = $102 (a day) in X amount of days is pulling tens of thousands of dollars in those same amount of days.

    Plus the guy in the video is obviously a paid actor, and the computer in the background is really outdated. Like it was just a prop or something. The script that he is using may work well, but it's also offensive.

    I might have the wrong website, but I'm pretty sure that it was the one you showed that corresponds with that ad.

    There are better and more creative ways to show success. This is a cheap tactic that can be fabricated, and often times IS.

    The only time that I ever saw Frank Kern show monetary earnings is when he recorded himself going to the bank and taking out $20,000 in cash just to show people what it looked like, and no one questioned it because of his reputation, but more importantly -- because he documented himself taking out that much money in bills.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    Well taken on the screenshot! Lol
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  • Profile picture of the author myob
    Originally Posted by Young And Opulent View Post

    Maybe one day people will learn to quit buying that MMO crap.
    Most MMO buyers know they can keep getting all that crap for free just by skillfully working Clickbank's refund system.
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  • Profile picture of the author Publicity
    Hm lol, I was thinking about joining clickbank actually.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    To be honest, if you look at the ad and what it says, it is NOT an income claim and does not purport to be one.
    Sorry but when you use an image that is an exact copy of the inside of a real Clickbank account then yes, you are meaning for people to think that is a real screenshot. It doesn't matter what words are used on the next image of the animated gif, they are using that screenshot image for one reason and one reason only. It's just a sneaky way of trying to get around the issue of using fake screenshots. I am fairly certain the FTC would be very interested in an ad like that. It is highly deceptive.

    So you are saying it's ok if we use fake earnings screenshots and then somewhere down the bottom of the page is a little disclaimer saying the income shot is not real? That's basically the same thing and no, that kind of thing is not allowed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      I know this advertisement is not created by Clickbank but I'm also pretty certain they look at and approve any of those ads that run inside their membership area. So Clickbank has found no problems with this ad yet if you were to try the same thing on your Clickbank salespage, you would be told to go elsewhere..
      Will, I think one of the guys who does approvals for Clickbank ads like that one also sub here in the WSO forum from time to time

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      Indeed Paul, I do believe that your business model has given you a lot of flexibility when it comes to dropping things that don't work for you, whether vendors, syndication outlets, or most anything else... You market a lot more products in a lot more niches to a lot more people than I do. (And I would venture to say, than most people anywhere do!)
      You've got everything right about my business model except the last part. I have no problem whatsoever in dropping anything that doesn't work, including subscribers. If subscribers don't buy within any 90-day period, they get dropped, so my lists are actually much smaller than you might think.

      Business in general, and competition in particular can be quite brutal. But in context of Clickbank's own evolving business model, much of the negatives are being eliminated, although at the cost of some collateral consequences.

      Far from being a cold, emotionless marketplace, I believe Clickbank really is attempting to make it a safe and pleasant environment for customers. As cold and heartless as this may sound, vendors who don't align with such customer-oriented business practices and CB's liberal refund policy may continue to get brutalized.
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      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Sorry but when you use an image that is an exact copy of the inside of a real Clickbank account then yes, you are meaning for people to think that is a real screenshot. It doesn't matter what words are used on the next image of the animated gif, they are using that screenshot image for one reason and one reason only. It's just a sneaky way of trying to get around the issue of using fake screenshots. I am fairly certain the FTC would be very interested in an ad like that. It is highly deceptive.

      So you are saying it's ok if we use fake earnings screenshots and then somewhere down the bottom of the page is a little disclaimer saying the income shot is not real? That's basically the same thing and no, that kind of thing is not allowed.
      Agree with you 100%... I've been a CB affiliate for awhile, & have made a good amount of money with them...so I definitely don't want to see their network be put into jeopardy with stupid, obviously fake screenshots.

      Clickbank just be honest & upfront...don't try to do anything that can be viewed as manipulation or fake income claims by the authorities.
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  • Profile picture of the author AskWendyWebb
    I'm fairly new to Clickbank and I found that ad totally annoying.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ctscott860
    WOW thanks for posting this! i noticed that and thought to me self "NICE PHOTO SHOP RESULTS!"
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  • Profile picture of the author JaySG
    There has to be a stop to this, this type of ads is what gives IM not a good name, and I think there are many honest marketers out there
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  • Profile picture of the author intenseblog
    OMG, I can't believe that Clickbank accept this type of ads

    So, maybe that product is totally scam?
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