Testing building a list

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I have a desire to build a small list and play around with it and getting to know how it all works. I read a lot of stuff on list building here on WF and pretty much all the info you need is out here

What would be the right steps to build a small list and do some very small experimenting to get first hand experience in a not to expensive way?

I think something like this and please correct me if I'm wrong

1) get a domain, hosting, install wordpress and setup a squeeze page
2) Create some content with value and some affiliate products
3) link to an autoresponder
4) drive some traffic
5) look at the results

What would be the best way to go to get some traffic for testing? Jus enough to really see what happens..

I was thinking of setting up a mini course in the IM niche, even tho I don't know THAT much about IM, I'm sure I can come up with something intresting.

Am I missing something here?

After I can see for myself how it works and get a good feel for it I can do it right and scale it big

Thanks for your time
#building #list
  • Profile picture of the author Tech19
    No you pretty much have the basics. I wouldn't do it just to play around with though, as you can build a serious business this way. If you don't go in with that mindset, you won't get the most out of your time/money. Make sure you set up some custom thank you pages, and then have a quality offer and follow up campaign. I recommend small solo ads to test your funnel as this is usually some of the highest quality traffic you can find. Any other questions just ask!
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulyC
    You're on the right track... the key will be getting traffic to your opt-in page, into your sales funnel, and then to track, test, and tweak everything.

    My favorite way of getting fast yet highly targeted traffic is to run a solo ad - which means you'll find someone in your niche and pay them to pitch an offer to their list for your free product. If you can get a good number of people to your squeeze page this will be step 1 in tracking everything.

    You'll want to determine how many people initially landed on your squeeze page and then how many actually opted in - this will tell you if your squeeze page is good. You want to test this and make slight adjustments until you have a decent percentage of people opting in. I find that the cooler your free opt-in gift and the more insane value it offers, the more people are going to want it. For example, a video tutorial teaching something that is not readily available for free is a good start.

    You then need to fill your email sequence (sales funnel) with a ton of high-quality information. Build the relationship between yourself and your leads - the better job you can do initially the more trust you'll gain with your subscribers and the more they'll be likely to buy when you pitch offers.

    There's an easy way to track everything through aweber, just check 'reports' and you can see how many people are opening each email and how many are clicking the links in each email. Your job as an internet marketer is to figure out what's working for each email and what isn't - so if you notice that the 1st email in your sequence has a 50% open rate, but the 2nd is only being opened at 15%, then you know something should be adjusted with the 2nd email. Probably starting with a tweak to the headline - which is the major reason why people click your emails.

    Simply follow what happens as you progress, and when you finally get yourself to the point where your optin page is converting well, all of your emails are being opened, and you know that your sales funnel is working, then you can really lay it on with list building.

    This all sounds straightforward, but it does take some work in order to really fine-tune everything to the point where it's a well-oiled machine. Simple, but not easy as the saying goes.

    After a while, you should also be able to determine how much money each new subscriber is worth to you, at which point spending money on solo ads and other paid methods is worthwhile as long as you know you'll recruit a certain number of clicks from each list-building method.

    Start slowly and ask lots of questions in the forum and you'll be successful!

    Hope that helps out, good luck!

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author slcroft
    You could also have an autoresponder form on a sidebar on your blog.

    Traffic for testing? Signatures in forums like are quite often a good source of traffic, also providing quality comments in similar themed blogs that allow you to link back to your blog. Don't spam though just for the sake of getting your link out, surefire way of ruining your reputation.

    Your content has got to provide value to entice the reader to join, so if you don't know too much about IM, you could use a plr ebook and make it into a course (obviously put your own spin on it) or do it on something you know a lot about first.

    As you said, all the info you need is on here as well as similar forums.

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    You have the basics but are missing the most important step that most newbies and courses skip right over and yet that every experienced marketer does religiously.....market and keyword research.

    There is a much more likely chance that someone can make money in a market where they are selling what people are already buying AND does not have a ton of competition.

    I personally make much more money in my niches that ARE NOT internet marketing related.

    I also know someone who finds hot products and then sells accessories for them from Amazon.com.

    If you are going to do this, know this, it takes work to really run an online business and make money.

    Anyone can put up sites and do the simple steps once they have some good step by step instructions. But to actually make money takes picking a good market doing thorough research at the front end and then doing all the steps to get good targeted traffic in the back end.
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  • Profile picture of the author madscientist
    So much GREAT info in just a few minutes after posting this... Thanks so much!
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  • Profile picture of the author davejug1
    Interact with your subscribers, they appreciate it
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  • Profile picture of the author madscientist
    Dear Topkat,

    Thanks for the info..

    To run some successful lists, how much work and dedication you have to expect to put down on a daily basis just as an example?
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    • Profile picture of the author patey88
      Originally Posted by madscientist View Post

      To run some successful lists, how much work and dedication you have to expect to put down on a daily basis just as an example?
      I'm not TopKat, but I want to say you should be prepared for your subscribers to write to you all the time. That's the part of having a list that has overwhelmed me. I can't deal with it at all.

      So know in advance that this will likely happen... and know if/how you plan to respond. I suppose it's a sign of success if your subscribers feel connected enough to want to talk to you, but if you don't want to respond you'll feel like you're failing.
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      • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
        Originally Posted by patey88 View Post

        I'm not TopKat, but I want to say you should be prepared for your subscribers to write to you all the time. That's the part of having a list that has overwhelmed me. I can't deal with it at all.

        So know in advance that this will likely happen... and know if/how you plan to respond. I suppose it's a sign of success if your subscribers feel connected enough to want to talk to you, but if you don't want to respond you'll feel like you're failing.
        To begin with, I started to have that problem (I even posted on here on how to handle it) and this is what I did...I added a page with a FAQ and included it in the signature of every email.

        Since I start off with a free offer and give a ton of valuable help for free, I figure most people would know that anything beyond that is going to cost money, so I offer upgrades that then cost a monthly fee.

        I haven't gotten very many emails asking questions since then. About the only emails I get now are testimonials and thank you's.

        I think once you have a list growing, you have to tweak things as they come up to avoid and/or handle these things.
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    • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
      Originally Posted by madscientist View Post

      Dear Topkat,

      Thanks for the info..

      To run some successful lists, how much work and dedication you have to expect to put down on a daily basis just as an example?
      From my experience, it was just like any other offline business I ever started....it took a lot more time in the beginning.

      The learning curve and getting things going, finding a profitable market and doing keyword research takes some time (but time well worth spending to succeed).

      And getting the sales funnel going.

      However, once I got a system down, it pretty much runs on auto pilot and that is when I started again with a totally new niche.

      Now, I have a system of what I do daily and what I do weekly and can even take off a whole week, like I did over Christmas and I also did last week and yet still made money and got sign ups.

      So I'd say, all day, every day to begin with and then depending on your abilities and such, maybe 4 hours 3 days a week and 2 hours the rest of the week once it is all running pretty well.

      However, that is just where I'm at. If I wanted to be in more niches and have more sites than just the ones I'm in now, I could work more and make more.
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  • Profile picture of the author leegs
    Originally Posted by madscientist View Post

    I have a desire to build a small list and play around with it and getting to know how it all works. I read a lot of stuff on list building here on WF and pretty much all the info you need is out here

    What would be the right steps to build a small list and do some very small experimenting to get first hand experience in a not to expensive way?

    I think something like this and please correct me if I'm wrong

    1) get a domain, hosting, install wordpress and setup a squeeze page
    2) Create some content with value and some affiliate products
    3) link to an autoresponder
    4) drive some traffic
    5) look at the results

    What would be the best way to go to get some traffic for testing? Jus enough to really see what happens..

    I was thinking of setting up a mini course in the IM niche, even tho I don't know THAT much about IM, I'm sure I can come up with something intresting.

    Am I missing something here?

    After I can see for myself how it works and get a good feel for it I can do it right and scale it big

    Thanks for your time
    Hi madscientist,

    For testing of the traffic, I would suggest to you to purchase solo ads (paid traffic) to drive traffic to your squeeze page. You might wish to add an OTO so as to see if converts well.

    If you want to go into affiliate marketing, then the pre-frame and pre-sell to get the list into buying mood. The follow-up campaigns play an important element when it comes to this business model.

    Of course, it might not be easy task initially. You will need to test and tweat along the way.

    Hope it helps...

    Raymond
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  • Profile picture of the author Warrior Dragon
    I recommend going to blogspot.com and posting from their. You don't need to pay with hosting automatically listed in google and it only costs $10/year.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by madscientist View Post

    I think something like this and please correct me if I'm wrong

    1) get a domain, hosting, install wordpress and setup a squeeze page
    2) Create some content with value and some affiliate products
    3) link to an autoresponder
    4) drive some traffic
    5) look at the results
    This is the gist of things. With this plan you can't go wrong. Be sure to fill up your autoresponder with new content everyday... same with your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lo
    Solo ads is a great way to build your list. Check out the Warrior for Hire section.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheKing
    Give some useful information to users and definitely they will wish to join your list
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelcorvin
    Best traffic would be PPC if you are doing some testing. But stay away from the big 3...Google, Facebook, until you know that your page is converting.

    Here is an article:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...uces-ever.html

    7 Search and Looksmart are great...

    Michael
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