The difference between success and failure is whether you give up or not. Building success will take time and commitment. You will learn, try new things, and fail. To succeed you must be willing to accept failure and take the lessons learned to better yourself.

Take Steve Jobs for example...

The man built an empire starting out from his garage. His asset was his ability to lead and never take no for an answer. He was never the kind to just give up.

Even when Apple was months from bankruptcy he was still able to turn the company around and make others believe. A little confidence will go a long way.

This is a great place to learn from. And it's free. Years ago learning internet marketing may have been difficult and limiting to peoples budgets but no longer is that the case.

If you don't have the money for web hosting then find someone who already has web hosting. Sell yourself and prove that your idea is worth investing in. Even start out with free hosting plan if you have to. Save up some money and make a list of what you will need to invest in first and foremost.

Read. Learn. And most importantly believe and never accept NO as an answer. The power of belief will go a long way.

Instead of buying a meal at McDonalds or the cup of Starbucks coffee, put that money aside and at the end of the month buy a hosting plan.

The point is there is no such thing as impossible.

If you want it bad enough...it is possible with hard work and commitment.

Ok, bye.

Seriously, if you want to be successful at this you need to be persistent. Believe it or not, not everyone who is successful at IM turned on their computer and started making money right away (contrary to what a lot of people seem to believe). You will find a lot of them gave it years before they started making good money. The question is, do you have what it takes?

From the sounds of it, maybe not. It's hard work, yes, but once you get there the pay off is well worth it.

keep at it. It's so corny and cliche, but it's true. People who are successful are people who just never gave up.

I think you're in it for the wrong reasons.

If you want a little spending money a job at the mall definitely is the way to go.

You are still young..

I think the best thing to do right now is try to get a website or a personal blog up that relates to something you love. add adsense to it and over time it will grow i think that adsense is one off the best monitizer you can use to build confdents in IM if you are not making money or as a newbie and i say this because with adsense you are bound to make something whether $0.5 or $1.20 from a click which always always make you feel good within and the best thing is that it all adds up.

In the meanwhile read a lot noting beats knowledge when doing IM. I'm pretty sure that there are lot more persons on here who are doing it longer than you and still not making any money though that may not sound comforting i think this is because they keep making the same mistakes and are taking too long to learn from them.

Set goals and work towards them. All is not lost.

best regards

The more you want to make money the less likely you will actually make some. I do IM for fun while still study in college and right now I am actually having a decent income.

The tips: I got fed up with information overload, so I stick with one method. After 6 months I finally made a sale and they are increasing everyday.

Okay. Maybe internet marketing isn't for you?

I'm not sure what you want to hear. :confused:

hey flabro95, don't give up just yet. You are not a crappy warrior. You can do it man if you stick at it. Find all the free ways to do things if you are broke...there are free tutorials, free websites (eg at squidoo), free blogs. go for it.

I think you should definitely get a 9-5 because that will take the pressure off your IM.
Then carry on with IM on the side. You can invest some of your earnings from your 9-5 into your IM business.

Pick a model that you want to use to make money. Don't jump from Amazon, to CPA, then back again...chose one method.
Then chose a method to drive traffic to your offer. Either SEO(my choice), or PPC, Article marketing, email marketing etc.

Find one and stick with it as well.
Just keep working hard and you will get results.

flatbro94,

I have to agree with add191. Sometime information overload can really cause you to lose focus on WHY you got into IM. The other question posed was...where do you want to go with this? If you want a 6 figure/ yr business, then you need to give a 6 figure/yr effort into it. The mindset is what a lot of newbies forget to get their minds around. Now I know your not a newbie because you have more posts than me but I have been in the business world for the last 12 yrs and I have seen my share of failures and successes. If you want some help...let me know through PM?

John

Flatbro,

How long have you been working at this? I see you joined the forum here in June 2011. Hopefully that was not your "start date", because that would mean you just started about 8 months ago. Like someone else pointed out I think, it takes many people YEARS to achieve some level of real success.

Heck, I just started achieving some real and consistent success in the offline space a few months ago, and I started in internet marketing almost 2 years ago.

You really can't give up that easily. You mentioned you've tried CPA and Amazon. How long for each one? Did you keep going back and forth between the two? If so, pick just one and stick with only that topic for at least several months. During that time, focus only on learning and implementing that one subject, nothing else.

Feel free to PM me if you think there's anything I might be able to help you with.

Adam

You shouldn't give up so quickly. What kind of things do you do to market your website? Some people are naturals at marketing their website business. But even if you're not a natural... you can still work at it. Stay diligent in your efforts.

If internet marketing was an easy job then I think even my Mum would give it a go!
The thing is, the internet is full of both good and bad information so you have to decide which things to dismiss.

I know I may be digressing a bit here but what I am trying to say is that it takes time and you shouldn't give up.

If you keep at it and work hard you will get there; if you simply give up at the first hurdle then this may not be the industry for you I'm afraid to say.

Perhaps more importantly, you have to be passionate about IM to really get far...and rich!

A good question to ask yourself is what price are you willing to pay for success? How bad do you want it? IM requires a "what ever it takes" attitude.

Hey Flatbro094.... good on 'ya for knowing if it's time to quit IM and move onto something else. Lots of Warriors here will fawn over you with their "awww, ya just keep tryin' and I'm sure you'll make it; you've gotta have perseverance; quitters never win and winners never quit" bull$#%t.

The truth is, the vast majority of those who try IM don't do nearly as well at it as they would in a 9-5 job. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with a 9-5 job. My father raised a terrific family, sent his children to very good universities and kept us in a beautiful home in a nice neighborhood in Connecticut...all with his 9-5 job. The trick is to learn what you're good at and if you're not good at something, realize it quickly and move on to something else. Many folks here are tenacious enough to avoid quitting an endeavor before giving it a chance to succeed. What some are not so good at is knowing when its time to quit. The big LIE in IM is that anyone can do it with the right amount of perseverance and patience. If that were true, everyone on this forum would be Frank Kern. Guess what... they're not.

For the record, I still dabble in IM as a hobby which I do purely for fun. When I tried IM as my full-time job, I found that I could only make about one-third of what I was making as a consultant so that is now my primary occupation.

Whatever you ultimately decide to do, best of luck and success to you.

Why even post this?

How long have you been working to "make money online"? You must learn the basics before even trying to make money. Even a professional goes to school to learn law, medicine, tech. Did you spend time to learn?

I am guessing you are still in school. So what is the rush. Don't expect to make insane amount of money immediately. When I started with a website, I did not make any money for more than a year. I sold the same website for $1,100 despite it not being a success.

I don't make much money (1-2K a month working 2-3 hours a day) online, but I can teach you a few tricks to get started. Feel free to get in touch.

"You've got to want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe, then you'll be successful."
Watch this video to get you pumped and motivated: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Hang in there

With that attitude, ok bye! See ya never! Did you want us to walk you through it the entire time? Obviously you're going to fail and lose money before you succeed.

Hello,

You can get a website up using wordpress quickly. PM me if you need help.

Dont give up!

If you fail try try again!

-J

Also stop making excuses for yourself. We both know this was an attention thread. If you want to make money, work for it.

Clearly it is not for you. You have been a member here for 6 moths and don't even ave a website by the sounds of things, probably best with a job.

Take your internet skills and go offline for a while. Work with small businesses, put money in your pocket and your confidence will rise.

IM is tough, you must be persistent. If it were easy everyone would be a millionaire.

Get a job and live with regret of what could have been, would have been, should have been....goodbye!!

this make me remind to my old post here. Good luck with the 9 to 5

Get a job and invest what you can afford in growing your business. Or get a loan and buy an already earning IB. Good luck.

Don't give up now! How long are you in this? 6-8 months?
I started with about 1,5 years ago, and not made any sale until last July. I logged into my amazon ass. account and yep, there was a sale which made me about $40. Not much but for me it was a huge confirmation, that what I'm doing is working.

So don't give up. Laser focus on one thing, and do just that, nothing else!

You can't pull together $10 for a domain and $8/month for hosting?

Sorry, but it sounds like the problem here is that you're lazy and just want money handed to you on a silver platter.

I understand. I was at that point when I was in highschool and started looking into internet marketing. You need to understand that that's not how it works. Get motivated, if you need money for a domain or hosting go mow someone's lawn or do some surveys for money (Cashle, etc.). Take the plunge and buy a domain or two and hosting.

And lose that attitude. You'll never be successful with an "I can't" attitude.

Don't give up. Follow your dreams. Good luck.

IM is not for eveyone so as someone else said,nothing wrong with a 9-5 job

Probably you were never going to make anything from it without a website.

You don't actually need any funds to get a website. You just need the right information. You're lacking information.

No - maybe not, strictly speaking - maybe you have too much information, but you don't have the experience or judgement to distinguish information from misinformation. What you're really lacking is reliable information, because you can't identify it among the waves of nonsense. That isn't your fault, mostly. Like you, I came here when I was 18 and it was exactly the same then, and I didn't know who to believe/trust, and I was misinformed, and I earned nothing for some months, partly for that reason.

I do agree with Al and Paradoxical above that IM isn't for everyone, but maybe you'll give it another try, some day. I wish you good luck, either way.

I'm not going to feel sorry for you, 95-97% of IMers will go exactly the same way (actually I'm thinking this is more like about 90% now with the mass marketing of freelance sites) and you are no different.

Unfortunately for you, it's a cut-throat business and if you haven't got the heart for it, it's never going to work.

A point in your favor though, you have tried things, most don't. Word to the wise, CPA is one of the toughest aspect to master, I do respect that you've given it a try, it took me three years to nail it, luckily I had other streams of income to tide me over.

I would join the pack and say keep going, it will work eventually, but that wouldn't be honest and you need a reality check.

... after high school.

The thing you should be concentrating on right now IS high school, and if you can, continue your education after high school. Internet marketing isn't for everyone and it's also something you can keep learning and working on in your spare time.

If IM is not for you thats cool - find your passion , something you love and follow it

good luck!

The biggest thing newbies don't understand is that you wont get rich overnight with basically no money. IM does require a start budget. and then lots of persistance. Little sleep, a lot of hours of learning and reading, alot of hours of error and trial.

May be you haven't found the right method/implementation yet. But if you're still in high school, it probably means you don't have much of a budget, so you feel more risk averse to try methods that require setup costs. You could pick up IM again once you've finished high school and have a day job, and use some of that money for your IM. Or you can try something like fiverr and make a bit of money to reinvest in other ventures.

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The most famous 7 words that Sir Winston Churchill ever said "Never Give Up, Never Ever Give Up".

You need to split your life in to two parts, the first is instant gratification. Get a part time job, start selling on EBay.

The second part runs concurrently to the instant gratification part and that is to build a solid business foundation, whis will take time, but will be worth it.

Give up, throw the towel in and without being HARSH nobody cares really, nothing was every achieved by giving up, however most give up just as the break is around the corner.

Forget about what has happened, what you haven't achieved and start again. What was was today is what is.

Good luck

"Quitters never win and winners never quit!" I think Ted Turner said that

Don't worry. Many of us were in your shoes many of the times but failure is not an option. All skills are learnable and focus with motivation.

I haven't made a sale, too. But, I am still working on it.

You've signed up to networks... but what exactly have you done to market yourself? Simply signing up to a couple of websites won't make you a single dollar.

I've seen a few of your threads and it seems that you're bouncing around without really giving anything a try (for long enough).

You've repeated your 'I'm broke' story many times around here, and in many ways I do feel sorry for you, but you really need to 'up your game' and figure out a way to get $10 into a PayPal account. If you continue to tell yourself that you're broke then that's exactly how you'll stay - because you'll repeat the story to yourself over and over again, until it becomes automatic and you actually begin to believe it.

Change your mindset from 'poor me' to something more positive, and sway your attention away from money, money, money and onto providing value to real people.

Instead of saying 'I'm broke, I can't afford a website' rephrase your problem and ask 'How can I get $10 so I can buy a website - can I gather money offline?".

If you truly want to live a financially-free lifestyle, and I mean with a burning desire, then you'll persevere through these bumps along the road.

Just remember: Thoughts create feelings, feelings create actions and actions create habits; and once you're in a bad habit, it's not easy to break.

You have to make sure you are not depending on the money you will make in the beginning. At first, you have to build up what you have.

Maybe a change of method is suitable here? Just try as many different things you can so you can determine wich methods fit you best.

Simple Stan

Honestly no except getting 4 fans on my facebook fan page that I started 2 days ago.

Im willing to put alot of hours say like 3-8 pm since I got school monday-friday.

I have never really put a lot of energy into IM as a strategy so I couldn't give you much advice in that arena. I've always generally stuck to things like article marketing, Ezine solo ads, and listbuilders.

Seems like you made this so people could come in and console you.

That's not going to happen. If you want to give up, ok. Go, bye.

Being successful takes commitment, I've seen you make a thread similiar to this before. Pretty sure it was you anyway.

Give up or don't. It will make no difference to us. By the sound of things you don't want to give up, you just haven't accessed what it takes to get into a winners mid-set.

We all fail and things don't work for us. But look, most of us are still here.

Evalute what you are doing now and find out why it's not working.

Attitude and mindset is everything.

Sounds like you need work on both in order to succeed.

Not to mention perseverance!

Focus, focus, focus.

Such a negative post and look at all of the replies.. Clearly warriors think you can make money online!!

Your attitude determines your success, honestly. If you think you don't have what it takes then you probably don't. But here's what I see with someone your age who even knows about internet marketing.... You can easily get a part-time job on the weekends, get yourself into one of the affordable coaching programs, learn everything you can about the industry, and be making a cool 6-7 figures by the time all of your buddies are in their sophomore years in college. Seriously, I wish I had your advantage in high school, and I bet many of the other warriors would agree with me on this one.

Don't give up when it's just a matter of learning - you're not going to be a millionaire in high-school, but so what! You don't need to be! Just learn, learn, and learn some more... Figure out how to build a real online business, take your time, which you have plenty of - c'mon you're in high-school. Have a good 'can-do' attitude, because in this business a bad attitude will hurt your progress.

But at the end of the day, if you really don't want to make it in IM none of this can help.

Good luck!

You just focus on the right thing and stick up with it. What methods you use? Keep going on and learn from from the others here or from guru. You will see the result.

2 Options:

1. Quit, knowing you spent all that time for nothing.
2. Keep going and get a reward from your hard work.

Your choice.

It's good that you made this post. Everyone, I'm sure, can relate in one way or another to being frustrated with something. I've been Internet Marketing since 1998. I do it full time. I started out writing eBooks about topics I enjoyed writing about. Afterwards, I moved on to building websites around these topics. Today, I do it for companies and businesses of every size. The point is, when you're starting out, stick with topics you enjoy. This makes the learning process much easier. Marketing is marketing - whether you're promoting pet products or ebooks on how to build model ships. If you start something your heart is really into in the first place, it's a lot tougher to keep going when you don't see the results you're looking for.

Find a topic you enjoy and build your Internet marketing skills around that subject.

What i believe a) be persistent b) Focused on one line of action c) then try to achieve your goal. For this you need to setup a deadline so you can make a plan and work around.

Shahid

First start to learn how to get traffic - SEO for example. Stick to it for at least 6 months. Than you can go for the rest. Just stick to one thing long enough to make impact.

Heavy sigh. Listening to the familiar old chorus of online sales is for everyone.

I commend you for trying new things before you get out of high school. There's nothing wrong with off-line work at all, despite what some IMers want you to believe - remember, they are Sales people. They are used to selling their point of view.

Go out and get a brick and mortar job, do some traveling, or go to school or all three. You can do other things and continue to dabble a little here and there online until you figure out what exactly excites you enough to want to do it for the rest of your life. You aren't locking the Internet door behind you. You can always come back to it any time you want to. Same with wanting to go back to brick and mortar. If someone gets online and finds they don't really like it, they aren't losers for wanting something other than the mainstream crowd in a forum.

You have a lot of years to live -- always do what you want and have fun with them because when you are lying on your deathbed you will never regret not working more hours -- but if you don't follow your own choices of what to do, you will regret that, and eventually, there will be no more time to fix that one.

the secret to success is never never give up
and this place where you are right now is a
Goldmine..Trust me and be the best...

Re: I think Im Done With IM! by Flatbro94
Here's a online video with Tony Robbins and John Reese interview i seen this and asked byself what can i do? WOW!!!! So watching is video i took notes.

P.S. Don't give up the race, before getting started. If your stuck on something ask the question here, there are great people here to help out.

Your Friend,
Richard Patterson

Remember some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue

Haha.

I said the same thing to myself after my first 2 weeks.

Here I am 2 years later with my first check on the way.

I agree with what most people here have said. Take some time to enjoy your life from the age of 18+ and when you're being yelled at by your boss in your 9-5, that should be the motivation for you to start up again.

This thread can be closed, the OP has started another thread saying he's going to do it after all. He's good at post-building for one thing

Flatbro,

I dont think you should give up, there is alot you can do. IM is a wide category, it has many subcategories. Maybe the thing that you chose to do wasn't for you. I tried doing amazon marketing last year but couldnt make any money, this year I have been doing adsense marketing and its been two week and got my first click yesterday.

Who ever says that you are too young because you are in high school dont even know what they are talking about. I am in high school as well, Im a senior. I got the money for the website I have right now from Fiverr. You can make some money pretty quickly from over there. You said that you have a certification from Cisco??? that is great.

Try making some gigs on Fiverr, sometimes if the people like your work, they would hire you outside of fiverr.

To say that you are unsuccessful because of the lack of resources than I think you just havent tried hard enough.

If you have internet than you have all the resources in the world available to you,

Good Luck

The reason most people give up on IM is that their mind set is wrong. You need to be prepared to work hard, stay with the one system and not get distracted by the next quick fix. But if you think you should quit then your heart isn't in it and if you aren't enjoying it then by all means give up.

I started my website for $300. That is NOTHING compared to what most businesses need when starting up. Heck you can probably do it for even less. It takes patience and hard work to make it in IM. If you want it bad enough you'll make it but you have to be driven.

If you are still in high school, then chances are that you haven't given Internet marketing quite the chance that it deserves. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing - if it's not something you enjoy then there is no sense in pursuing it.

However, just look around… There is ample proof that YOU CAN MAKE MONEY doing this, it will just take time, patience, diligence and hard work.

Internet marketing is not going to be the thing that allows you to retire after high school. Internet marketing, however, will teach you a hard work ethic and the power of sheer determination, which are two lessons that you probably won't ever learn in high school. Or college, depending on where you go and what you do (no offense to the college grads present).

IM isn't for everyone. Definately not those that like to see failure a lot. I failed for a long time before I finally started earning a full time living online. It was painful, I almost wanted to quit too but the year I made over 60,000$ made me very thankful I sticked to IM. I made more than my day job and if you're dedicated, you won't quit.

You are still very young and by the time you're older you could be running a successful internet business or just making money as an affiliate. The key is practice, you don't get good at Football overnight. Same with Internet Marketing!

If you quit everything that is hard work then you will not build yourself a shining future. My advice for you is to get a mentor. Someone to watch over your shoulder and tell you what are you doing wrong.

Best of luck.

Remember when your about to quit or feel like your going to give up... your millimeters from success... keep kicking a**

I have been at it for almost 1 year now with no earnings yet. I've already spent over $1000 usd with no return. But i know in my heart it will pay off if i just keep at it, and never give up. I just need a break through to get me going. Just 1 sale to lift my spirits up. But it will come i wont give up ever. One day i will make it if i stay at it.

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Can't give up- You have to keep grinding!

Attitude is everything. "If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right. " - Henry Ford

Nothing in life worth getting is going to be easy. Maybe you get a 9-5, get yourself out of survival mode and give this an honest attempt and do this part time.

Good luck!

A lot of people will tell you to stay and keep trying, but that's really up to you, to decide.

Remember very few people of all the millions who tries. Actually does make a living from IM. So if you can't seem to get it to work. And you feel bumped down and burned out.

I would recommend you to think about if you rather would have a regular job. And possibly get a better social life a long with the regular job.

Then if you come back after say a 6 month total "break" from IM and you doesn't feel the need to try and be an IM success quit.

Instead of spending hours of time and tons of money and something that burns you out and makes you feel down. And might not even work properly for you. I would say try the break thing.

You might end up gaining more by focusing on other aspects of your life than struggling with IM.

Its weird man. After you make your first sale or commissions,
something immediately "turns on" inside your head and you realize
that is actually IS possible and it CAN be done. More so you reallize
that YOU can do it all, despite whatever the nay sayers have tried
to tell you otherwise.

Simple fact is, you need to have "balls of steel" in this industry
if you want to have any continual sustained success. We all go through
failures, and being this business is primarily numbers oriented,
if you persist, its natural that success will come as a result.

If this is something that you actually want then work at it till you get it. End of story.

You definitely need to get a job and do IM on the sideline... Approach IM as a fun hobby... You've got to enjoy it so you can last months and years to get success... If you approach it like its real hard work, you could easily get exhausted quickly and give up...

You can't make things work overnight. Maybe you're doing things wrong. Don't give up yet. Getting the help of a mentor might work. It need not necessarily be a paid program. There are a lot of people who are willing to help you out, especially on this forum. Or, you could contact some of the big time marketers and offer them one of your skills in exchange for their advice.

WOW Thanks guys this really really means alot!! I love you WARRIORs <3333!

Don't give up bro.

The way I see it, it's always easy to hear about people who never give up and fought through to succeed.

But when it comes to your turn, it feels like total crap.

I feel like crap. It's just how it is. When you hit the point where you feel like giving up, it means you feel like giving up.

But I always tell myself this: It SHOULD feel like crap, and it's the REAL winners who will succeed because we bothered to fight through.

How can you make money if you don't even accomplish anything? :confused:
I made my first sale 3 months after I built my first website. Quick cash? No. Achievable? Yes.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Your still young give yourself some time. Maybe you should focus on list building the money is in the list.

Whatever u decide is right.

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My old maths teacher always drilled into me:

Determination, persistence and willpower.

The only thing that is certain is that if you do give up, you'll never succeed. As many have said, and it's true, it's a matter of picking one method and sticking with it until you do succeed, which, with hard work and persistence, you undoubtedly will.

Best of luck whichever you decide,
Ray