If you had no money to start IM, what would you do?

jamesrich1

14 years ago

Pick one business model and stick to it until successful.

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JulianKane

14 years ago

Get a job...

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fin

14 years ago

I'd go on Iwriter and make about $250 as soon as possible.

Maybe 1 month if I was taking my time.

Then I'd buy a dotcom, a years worth of hosting and auto-repsonder.

Then I'd start blogging in my pre-selected niche.

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Banned 14 years ago

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Complete tasks from this thread till I had the desired amount of money to invest into my business.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 14 years ago

My answer's about the same as Fin's, just above.

I'd need a proper domain-name and hosting (I might even start with reliable free hosting, but not Blogger/Squidoo/HubPages), and I'd start a blog/site in a decent niche (not IM/MMO!) with ClickBank-ish products available, and attract traffic by article syndication. I'd do whatever I have to do (writing articles for others?) to be able to afford to use Aweber or GetResponse, too - fortunately they cost very little indeed. But I wouldn't seriously try to start a business without a domain, hosting (maybe free) and an autoresponder (definitely not a free one). I'd make quite sure I'm not dependent on Google for my traffic: to me, that's not a reliable/dependable/secure business.

In a sense, once you "know a bit" about IM, it's all really about knowing what not to do/use, I think.

The mistakes are all out there, waiting to be made by the unwary.

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celente 14 years ago

Alexa has a good plan.

You could start building a list with this also.

Build a list and keep sending them back to your new posts, and keep syndicating articles. You could start doing this and see some good results rather quickly.

Then you could keep the site, and build it up more or sell it on flippa once it is earning.

There are lots of ways to earn money online.
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johnjonas01 14 years ago

This advice is so helpful. Thanks Alexa!
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Rich Shaw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

My answer's about the same as Fin's, just above.

I'd need a proper domain-name and hosting (I might even start with reliable free hosting, but not Blogger/Squidoo/HubPages), and I'd start a blog/site in a decent niche (not IM/MMO!) with ClickBank-ish products available, and attract traffic by article syndication. I'd do whatever I have to do (writing articles for others?) to be able to afford to use Aweber or GetResponse, too - fortunately they cost very little indeed. But I wouldn't seriously try to start a business without a domain, hosting (maybe free) and an autoresponder (definitely not a free one). I'd make quite sure I'm not dependent on Google for my traffic: to me, that's not a reliable/dependable/secure business.

In a sense, once you "know a bit" about IM, it's all really about knowing what not to do/use, I think.

The mistakes are all out there, waiting to be made by the unwary.

I started in IM about 8 months before I got made redundant and I basically did the above.
I had enough money to cover my domain, autoresponder and hosting for a year and I concentrated on building a wordpress blog pushing affiliate products from clickbank.

It was a real struggle at first but now I'm reaping the rewards of my hard work and determination to succeed!

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DSTeam

14 years ago

Do a month's worth of Fiver gigs, take the money and build a small but target list and sell them products which offer instant commissions. This way you'll have the capital to buy some more traffic and so on until eventually you'll end up with a nice targeted list of buyers and your future conversions will grow exponentially.

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TheBacklinkProdigy

14 years ago

I would get a loan and start from there with solid investments. Investing in programs, backlinks, advice and other necessary business expenses that could later be wrote off as tax expenses.

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Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by TheBacklinkProdigy

I would get a loan and start from there with solid investments. Investing in programs, backlinks

Well, there you go: we always get a wide range of Warrior opinion in these threads.

You'd honestly advise someone starting off in IM with no money to borrow money to "invest" in backlinks?!

Call me a skepchick, but one really doesn't have to be Einstein to wonder whether the potential agenda suggested by your username might just possibly have influenced your reasoning the tiniest bit, there?!
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- CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith
  
  the potential agenda suggested by your username might just possibly have influenced your reasoning
  
  I find it just as likely that his reasoning influenced his username.
  
  If you honestly think backlinks are the most important thing, why wouldn't you focus your efforts - and quite possibly your business model - on them?
  
  It's very easy to get cause and effect reversed.
  
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Tony Grant

14 years ago

This is what we did last week and this was free:
1) Find a partner on a skype group (free)
2) discuss and find a topic for a webinar over skype (free)
3) Open up a 30 day free GoToWebinar account free)
4) Advertise the broadcast fervently on forums, skype groups and anywhere that is free (free)
5) Invite a well-known guest who might mail their list for you (free)
6) Max the webinar out and gather 100 or more new contacts (free)
7) Have a great webinar anaise your prole (free)
8) Market your list using an autoresponder that offers a free account for small lists (free) (ie. imnica)
9) Sit back and see if you made any money from your affiliated mailings free.
10 Rinse & Repeat (free)

ok, you do need a paypal account too (free) and you could benefit from a website and email address although gmail could well work (albeit not so well I guess)

Now,we did do the above in a way but we didn't spam our list at all, that just a way to try to make money if that is all you want. In the end, the above was pretty much free if you want to make it that way so this fits the bill I think
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megawarrior 14 years ago

Either get a job or do something laborious like writing articles or submitting manual backlinks for cash.
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Greg Jeffries

14 years ago

Get a loan from Prosper.com

then put that money either into ZeekRewards.com or BannersBroker.com and wait patiently for that money to compound slowly over time.

While you're waiting, couchsurf or get a job.

In less than a year **if you put a decent amount into either of the programs** you should be making enough passively to live a very comfortable life

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WriterWahm

14 years ago

After you're done setting up your blog like Alexa has advised, you could think of signing up for some paid blogging networks and making a little money out of paid blog posts or paid for text links.

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valmillercorl

14 years ago

Originally Posted by WriterWahm

After you're done setting up your blog like Alexa has advised, you could think of signing up for some paid blogging networks and making a little money out of paid blog posts or paid for text links.

I agree with you. I just found out about blogsvertise and they pay pretty decent for just a 200 word post.

Val

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semmyw 14 years ago

start a services, you can offer install wordpress blog, writing articles, SEO services, video creation service and etc
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- Daniel Evans 14 years ago
  
  "Starting IM" isn't specific enough.
  
  It really depends upon exactly what I planned to do which would dictate how much initial investment I might need.
  
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Anton Nadilo

14 years ago

The answer to this question is based on the assumption that you have "no money".....really?? I would find it hard to believe that you have no money at all. Are you a himalayan monk? My experience of coaching people has been that even people with severely limited funds can find the money if they truly have a burning desire to succeed. They are prepared to do WHATEVER it takes to see there dreams/goals become a reality. There are an unlimited number of things you can do to earn extra money to invest in your business. Many "gurus" peddle these IM courses saying you can make 1 gadgillion zillion dollars working for home and with little or no money.....one word B***S**T!! If you cannot or are not prepared to find $10 per month to invest in your business, quit now and save yourself the heartache and GET A JOB!

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Therese 14 years ago

Here's the system I'd use to get started:

(1) Using the free OpenOffice word processor, I'd write a short ebook packed with useful information on a popular topic I'm familiar with. I'd use the free google keyword tool to find keywords to help write the title and prepare the sales page. I'd download a free copy of Article Assistant to help with gathering facts and ideas for the ebook.

(2) I'd include some free images from sxc.hu or morgueful.com and use the best one to create a simple ebook cover using one of the many free image programs available like photoscape or irfanview. I'd save the document in .pdf format which is easy with OpenOfice and the main reason I suggest using it.

(3) I'd design an html sales page in a free html program called easyHTML, using all the hints from a brilliant free ebook "Sales Page Success Formula" - search google to find it.

(4) I'd put the ebook for sale on jvzoo.com and put my newly minted sales page onto the free sales page that jvzoo provides. I'd include the ebook in their affiliate system. A free paypal account is also necessary in order to accept payments.

(5) To stimulate traffic to the sales page I've now got on jvzoo, I'd use all the following free services: socialadr.com, facebook, and linkedin where I'd join several groups, participate, and post an ad in their free promotion sections to advertise the ebook and invite affiliates to promote it.

I'd also use stumbleupon, twitter, build a quick and easy free squidoo lens, create a quick and easy free blogger blog, use forum signature links, write related articles and submit to article directories and scribd.

(6) If possible (not available in all US states) I'd also join amazon.com's free affiliate program and include their ads on the blogger.com blog.

(7) If I wanted to make several similar copies of one article to submit to directories or use on blogger or squidoo, I'd use the excellent free online article re-writer (hand-written not machine-written) at Article ReWriter Spin Your Articles Free and download a free copy of article toolchest to spin the articles.

There you have it. A no money system: no domain name, no website, no software or services to buy. Just a computer, access to the internet, and a healthy dose of effort. This is enough to get anyone started and it won't cost a cent.
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- Terrie Taylor 14 years ago
  
  Therese,
  
  Thank you so much for the DETAILED description! (reply #17) One could actually take that and use it unlike some of the rather vague answers.
  
  Great advice!
  
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eshoppingez

14 years ago

I'd first earn some money, because to start an IM business, you need to invest some money. I would people to do something I'm good at, earn some money, reinvest it in my IM business, and enjoy my residual income.

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BrianTerr

14 years ago

I'd ask a question on a forum, copy paste the answers into a word document, pretty it up a little, make a pdf and sell it as a WSO or Kindle book.

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Daniel Evans 14 years ago

I'd have them make good use of Y! Answers.
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REHughes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BrianTerr

I'd ask a question on a forum, copy paste the answers into a word document, pretty it up a little, make a pdf and sell it as a WSO or Kindle book.

And in the US that it what is called "plagiarism".

-All of the following are considered plagiarism:

turning in someone else's work as your own
copying words or ideas from someone else without giving credit
failing to put a quotation in quotation marks
giving incorrect information about the source of a quotation
changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit
copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on "fair use" rules)

(quoted from Plagiarism.org)

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BrianTerr

14 years ago

Originally Posted by REHughes

And in the US that it what is called "plagiarism".

-All of the following are considered plagiarism:

turning in someone else's work as your own
copying words or ideas from someone else without giving credit
failing to put a quotation in quotation marks
giving incorrect information about the source of a quotation
changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit
copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on "fair use" rules)

(quoted from Plagiarism.org)

Somebody completely missed the point....

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feliciayapsl

14 years ago

I would use free resources like Squidoo & hubpages.

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Curtis2011

14 years ago

Originally Posted by kamalmix

So...?

what would ya do?

If I had no money, I'd get a real job and use the earnings to pay for my IM work.

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buckeyes09

14 years ago

I'd get a job (or a better one) and use that money to invest in my business. Unless it's a hobby, I don't very much like to spend time on a lot of intricate details. Ergo, I'm a huge fan of outsourcing.

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wilsonljx 14 years ago

Capital issues shouldn't be the main problem that is stopping you from starting. If you have a good plan and desire to start,u will eventually find ways to achieve it such as working part time jobs. You don't have to spend tons of money to get started.
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Randall Magwood

14 years ago

Try my luck on ebay. Sell the flatscreen and the xbox, then use the funds from those sales to purchase some jewelry inventory, and sell it on ebay.

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Aussie_Al 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Randall Magwood

Try my luck on ebay. Sell the flatscreen and the xbox, then use the funds from those sales to purchase some jewelry inventory, and sell it on ebay.

well said Randall - ebay is still the fastest way to generate some quick cash
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Viramara

14 years ago

If I'm getting lazy and having quite a spare time, this is what I'll do :

Finding "get paid to be a website tester" on Google. There are lots of them, i.e. Analysia.com, Userfeel.com, usertesting.com, and whatusersdo.com

You'll get paid $10 per testing for 15 minutes. Test 10 websites, you get $100.

All you have to do is navigate through the website, speak your mind on microphone, speak up what's annoying and what's good and spend 15 minutes/ website, and gave the feedback about the website.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

But if I want to walk affiliate marketing path, this is what I'll absolutely do (actually I did it....except I purchased a domain and hosting from the start....) :

- Make a free landing page on weebly or bravenet or yola
- Get a free high quality autoresponder, i.e. Listwire and Imnicamail free version (that enables 1000 subs)
- Write a very good, personalized e-courses and point that to some aff products
- Joining 3 forums on my niche and posting like crazy, with the optin link on my sig
- Finding high-traffic blogs and become their guest bloggers ===> optin link
- Posting vids on Youtube ===> optin link
- When I have made some money, reinvest by purchase a domain and hosting, then redirect the free website to the new premium website

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Green Diamond

14 years ago

I would gladly present a business man to invest on me.
Thousands of ideas: I can grow your business, I can do this do that...

So first step: outsourcing
second think about you business !

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ChristianMCruise

14 years ago

Get investors!

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Anton Nadilo 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ChristianMCruise

Get investors!

Christian, interesting comment.

Have you had success yourself in this area? I would be interested to hear if you have or knew anyone who has as I find it hard to believe that most Warriors/IM business are have any real tangible asset value...although they may be creating six and seven figure incomes.

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asciscopecunia

14 years ago

Make lots of friends on Twitter and Facebook (legitimately), build a good reputation and slip in the occasional affiliate link or two.

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hassan001

14 years ago

Will go with a job to save some money or will provide services online for money

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Elmar

14 years ago

1. Get a FB Fan Page
2. Create a Free Landing (w/free auto responder) page on the Fan Page using FREE apps
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4. Post relevant valuable content on the authority pages in my niche
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Shane Hon 14 years ago

You can start a service on fiverr. There are also other alternatives to fiverr like, Gigbucks, Zeerk, Tenbux, uphype, Dealerr, Justafive, GigMe5, Tenyt, GigWood and GigHour. Hope this helps.

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revstan

14 years ago

Commenting on blogs with your CPA-referrallink. This should make some startup cash if you do it right.
Doing Fiverr gigs is also a good way, and very easy.

Simple Stan

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Oliver Williams

14 years ago

How about purchase a cheap domain for $1 then find a quality CPA offer and direct link it to your domain then promote that domain using every free method both offline and then online. Then create a book called the $1 cpa method

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Stella Foong

14 years ago

I'm enjoying reading this thread. So many ideas. Thank you.

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IpWiz

14 years ago

Worked as a freelancer to get funds for IM.

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Mike Ogbin

14 years ago

* Promote what you are capable to do in Fiverr and start creating gigs.

* Writing ebook of any topics that you are passionate in and selling it in amazon kindle publishing.

* Provide your services in guru.com, elance.com, freelance.com and similar sites to let people hiring you and pay you fee in each work that you have done.

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Jill Carpenter 14 years ago

Originally Posted by kamalmix

So...? what would ya do?

You tell me. You are the one offering the one on one coaching.
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McCoy

14 years ago

I will join a free affiliate marketing programs..
it's better that way.
or, find an online jobs in odesk or freelancer,. yeah man.

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Andrew Leatherland

14 years ago

Although you may not have money, you do have something else - access to know how. The search facility on this forum is probably the nearest thing to a money printing machine there is on this forum. At your finger tips are a wealth of ideas. Some are standalone ideas and some can be turned into gold if you put together the various aspects.

It is this that you can turn no money into hard money and I'm busy developing that notion further. Regardless of whether you've got no money the gold standard is having your own paid domain, own hosting and so on. But how do you get there with no money.

Easy - you use other peoples money and mix it with your imagination. I'm not certain precisely how many warriors there are on here. Whilst I'm certain it is a lot, it isn't by any means everyone. That means a lot of people have no idea about this place with all its riches which puts you at a distinct advantage.

Generate money by becoming a middle man for those who don't know. Someone running a service that's in demand - become a middle man for it in your local area. Someone selling a product on WSO that can help a business? Become a middle man for it.

Whatever you do however have an exit plan for the cash to build you business. With your first profits, buy a proper domain and some proper hosting so that you get to building your business as strongly as possible as quickly as possible.

Of course all of this is only possible with action.

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GeorgR.

14 years ago

Originally Posted by kamalmix

So...?

what would ya do?

The same i did when i started, because when i started in IM many years ago i did, in fact, have no money. I started IM to MAKE money, not to spend it.

If you think "Oh my, i don't have money, so how can i start in IM?"..you already have the wrong attitude. One of the most "fascinating" aspects of IM is in fact that doing it is mostly free or only costs very little. Re-investing comes MUCH, MUCH later.

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sahi

14 years ago

you can write a short report on any popular topic in this forum , and offer it with full PLR.

Since you'll need $40 to post a wso and since you don't have a single $ so you can make a blogger blog, put together a simple to the point sales copy with main benefits, go to ejunkie and get free signup by using a coupon code which you can find on Google that can give you free ejunkie account for a month or more than that, and then upload your ebook to your ejunkie account, put their Buy Now button on your blog, make a catchy signature line in your WF profile, and then actively participate in the forum without spamming your posts here, and within a week or earlier (if your ebook's topic is hot) you will start making sales.

For putting everything in action you won't need a single cent.

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AndrewCavanagh 14 years ago

I did have no money when I started.

The first things I did were writing articles for magazines (which didn't really pay all that well at $20 to $100 an article).

The most profitable thing I did early on was writing a report and online press release for a real estate agent to get them to the top of google and to give them a tool that would help convert prospects into clients listing their houses.

For that I think I got paid something like $1,000 to $1,500.

It took me quite some time after that trying other things before I realized that the easiest to get money was in providing services to regular businesses.

They have the money and the business infrastructure and they're quite happy to pay you over and over if you can bring them in real sales.

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barbling

14 years ago

I always find it intriguing when folks say they have no money to spend. In a huge bunch of cases, it turns out the same folk have a couple of dollars here to spend for Starbucks, a couple of dollars there to spend for the movies, etc.etc.etc.

Perhaps you *do* have the money simply choose not to spend it.

Funny how nobody says, I want to start a real life business but don't have money to spend......

Why should the mindset of IM be any different?

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Freddie Worrall

14 years ago

Blog, affiliate links, free free free.

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14 years ago

I would not ask a question about how to make money online with a link to my coaching in my sig like You have done.
Kinda destroys any credibility
From asking the most basic question to being an expert seems a big leap.

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James Foster

14 years ago

Get a job.

You wouldn't think you could start a serious Brick and Mortor business with no money, do you?

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Go here >>> http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html

...then pray something is in there for me that I can work with zero money.

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14 years ago

Build an E-commerce website.

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Banned 14 years ago

You perform services. That is exactly what you do. You likely have some skills that would be useful, so you look for those type of gigs, or you learn how to write fairly good and then take some gigs on Digital Point. You won't make a lot there, but you can build up funds by being a forum poster for someone, for example, and then invest that money in a good brandable domain (don't fall for all this "exact searches" domain s**t), and hosting, and start learning the skills of setting up WordPress blogs and so on. Take it from there.

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Flores

14 years ago

Get a loan from a friend, make money online, and then pay him back. Make sure you know what you are doing though. The last thing you need is to have no money for IM and then debt

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JeremiahSay

14 years ago

Originally Posted by kamalmix

So...?

what would ya do?

Simple.. Don't just wait for money to drop from the sky, I'll go take action and make it happen

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Bjarne Viken

14 years ago

I think if you started off with no money, your first question should be what assets do I have? Time? Skills? Contacts? Drive?

I get the impression that most people that start with internet marketing are low on skills and money. So they start with affiliate marketing.

And I don't see how not having money is that much an issue. If you for instance found a really good copywriter and a really good designer and asked if they would be willing to pay you a commission to get them clients why would they refuse? Odesk usually charge 10%, and many of those contractors have PayPal accounts. The difference, about 7.5% could be enough incentive for a beginner to build up a credit with either to eventually get get their services. And you would not have to breach any of Odesk's terms of service if you just did all your dealings away from their platform.

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Chris Farrell

14 years ago

If I had no money to start -- I would spend time getting good at one skill.

Be that Wordpress -- or Photoshop -- or content creation -- or writing keyword rich blog posts -- or copywriting -- or something.....

There are enough free videos on YouTube -- and mix in asking questions here --- to get good at one particular skill --- within 4 or 5 weeks.

Then -- I would market my particular skill online.

Give a free example of your work -- or a free piece of writing if your copywriter -- a free image if you studied design etc etc....

Get a reputation for being good at your particular one skill -- and then you will slowly start to get referrals and paid work.

Best of luck to you,

Kindest

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virtualconsultant

14 years ago

I have started earning online with out any money except my computer and broadband cost.

But, I did not make it from Internet Marking though, it was started with freelancing projects. You do not need money to start working and earning online if you have the right attitude,skill and talent. Of course, you need money to invest later if you want to climb the next level o success.

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andrealhendrick

14 years ago

Find a niche, do some keyword research. After I found a set of keywords. I would then register a site on blogger and fill it with relating content and adsense. After that I would do some seo work.

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johnben1444

14 years ago

You can offer your skills as services on places like fiverr, micro worker, elance and forums.

Once you have accumulated up to $100, you can start buying websites from forum digital point and WF for a cheap amount and selling on flippa for a higher amount.

At this point, you will be making some money while trying to horn your skills as an IMer.

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arekoseng

14 years ago

1. Maybe try bum marketing? That is free and it works
2. I will join a free affiliate marketing programs..

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