Article Marketing, let me make sure I have this right.

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So, everytime I spin an article, I can upload that version of the spun article to multiple article websites correct? I don't need to spin it for each article website I upload it to?
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  • No you don't, assuming that the article directory accept spun articles of course.
    If they don't then you will need to generate a spun version yourself and submit that.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattdrish
      Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing View Post

      No you don't, assuming that the article directory accept spun articles of course.
      If they don't then you will need to generate a spun version yourself and submit that.
      Wait, I am a little unclear what you mean. I am already spinning my own articles my self. And to clarify, are you saying "YES, I can submit one spun article to multiple article websites". Sorry about the confusion.
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  • Profile picture of the author doshmachine
    Google doesn't like repeat content so make sure it is not identical to the article on your site. Also, maybe only submit one spun version to 3 or 4 directories and spin it slightly differently for each 3 or 4 directories. It actually takes the same time to spin 5 versions of the same article as it does to spin one version. If you just get into the habit of adding three or four synonyms for all words, or quickly rephrasing easy sentences 3 or 4 times at once then it becomes automatic.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattdrish
      Originally Posted by doshmachine View Post

      Google doesn't like repeat content so make sure it is not identical to the article on your site. Also, maybe only submit one spun version to 3 or 4 directories and spin it slightly differently for each 3 or 4 directories. It actually takes the same time to spin 5 versions of the same article as it does to spin one version. If you just get into the habit of adding three or four synonyms for all words, or quickly rephrasing easy sentences 3 or 4 times at once then it becomes automatic.
      Thank you, that clears up my question.
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      • Profile picture of the author mattdrish
        Hey guys, I am doing a little self bump so that I don't need to open an entire new thread for this quick question.

        If I am Spinning one article for EACH DIRECTORY that I submit too, Do I ALSO spin the keyword? Or do I make sure that the keyword is the same for each version of the spun article. I know this is a total newb question, but It seems like my articles would be competing with my website rankings if I am targeting the exact same keyword in all of them. Maybe that is a good thing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Maybelle Zito
    Yes, you can submit a spun article to multiple article directory sites. Just like when you have new article which also you can submit to multiple sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author jwiggens
    It can't hurt to vary your keywords in your articles. When you mention that you're worried about your articles "competing with my website rankings"... as long as you are promoting your site in the article bio box, it's not really an issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author peter2412
    I would like to ask you guys only one question. why do you want to submit article when you have to submit one article in one article directory. you should create link wheel in this condition and promote that link wheel so that you will get good quality contextual interlinking for your website.

    Now a days all article sites have 1000 of posts and all page rank is divided in these articles links. You will not get those desirable benefits which should be for your website.

    so think about this and let me know your views for article submissions.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattdrish
      Originally Posted by peter2412 View Post

      I would like to ask you guys only one question. why do you want to submit article when you have to submit one article in one article directory. you should create link wheel in this condition and promote that link wheel so that you will get good quality contextual interlinking for your website.

      Now a days all article sites have 1000 of posts and all page rank is divided in these articles links. You will not get those desirable benefits which should be for your website.

      so think about this and let me know your views for article submissions.
      I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, or what a Link Wheel is? I am a newb, and you are speaking complexities.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        What they are saying works if you know exactly what you are doing .. at this stage of your game .. stay away from wheeling .. done incorrectly and you can doom a domain.


        Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

        I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, or what a Link Wheel is? I am a newb, and you are speaking complexities.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ord Allenbea
        Ignore him because link wheels are frowned upon by Google anyways. It is best you just do not learn what they are.

        Read my post above and if you have questions then please ask. You can also find out more about what real article marketing is by clicking on my sig that explains what the panda update is.

        Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

        I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, or what a Link Wheel is? I am a newb, and you are speaking complexities.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ord Allenbea
    Nope you have article marketing 100% wrong! Amazing how this lame mass submission to content farms still goes on.

    Despite popular belief, article marketing was created to market your quality content and syndicate it to websites that can help you empower your website. There are several factors that you need to remember because they are the most important in article marketing.

    Quality Content - You may think you write quality articles because they sound good, but do you really understand what quality content actually is? In order to create quality content, your articles must contain proper spelling and grammar, semantically related words, and read at a proper grade level that corresponds to your niche, according the Flesch-Kincaid readability test.

    Quality content means just that, quality! These attributes are needed for readers to take you seriously on what you are claiming to be an expert about. They are also needed in order to achieve higher search engine rankings. Google has always wanted fresh quality content to present to their users in their search results.

    Your quality content gets posted on "YOUR" site before anyplace else. When you decide to syndicate your articles "YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SPIN ANYTHING". Article spinning and article rewriting is 100% optional and is in no way required to do proper article marketing.

    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    So, everytime I spin an article, I can upload that version of the spun article to multiple article websites correct? I don't need to spin it for each article website I upload it to?
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  • Profile picture of the author veheme
    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    So, everytime I spin an article, I can upload that version of the spun article to multiple article websites correct? I don't need to spin it for each article website I upload it to?
    It depends on how deep your spinning goes.

    In order to make it clear and simple, for every sentence spinning you put in your file (assuming you have 18-25 sentences in a 400-word article), you will get a guaranteed 50 unique outputs from that. SO if you have 2 sentence spinning done, you will get 100 unique outputs.

    If you put in proper word spinning, double that number. (2 sentence spinning = 100 outputs + word spinning = 200 outputs)
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    • Profile picture of the author mattdrish
      I'm not gonna lie guys, I often come out of these threads more confused than when I started. Maybe that's my fault for assuming that Affiliate marketing and SEO are objective disciplines. Keep in mind that I am at a point where I SIMPLY HAVE a domain with 15 unique articles, and onsite SEO completed. I know nothing beyond this.

      I value all of your posts and I am attempting to incorporate most of them into my learning experience.

      Right now I am spinning my articles for EACH directory I post them to. This means I am not posting my 'original article' to any directory. I've had so many mixed answers about syndication, and whether or not spinning is even necessary, that I decided I should take the "better safe than sorry route". Plus, since Google hates duplicate content, It's not as if a duplicate article is going to rank twice. If the article doesn't rank at all, I still gain the backlink none-the-less. If one of you wants to give me a very clear and concise methodology that improves upon mine, while also addressing each and every sentence within this paragraph, that would be greatly appreciated, but I am in fear for my affiliate future if I keep receiving indirect, contradictory, or unexplained responses. I am already fighting information overload. GOD I WISH I HAD A MENTOR

      I have another quick question I was hoping someone could answer. I am currently ranking pretty well for a bunch of "non-converting" keywords. I was curious if I should put any effort into increasing their rank? I mean, If I am naturally ranking 12th for these words, then it couldn't take to much effort to rank up right? I know it may seem unnecessary from a sales perspective, but asset wise, would it be beneficial? Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ord Allenbea
        Contact me and I will mentor you.

        Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

        I'm not gonna lie guys, I often come out of these threads more confused than when I started. Maybe that's my fault for assuming that Affiliate marketing and SEO are objective disciplines. Keep in mind that I am at a point where I SIMPLY HAVE a domain with 15 unique articles, and onsite SEO completed. I know nothing beyond this.

        I value all of your posts and I am attempting to incorporate most of them into my learning experience.

        Right now I am spinning my articles for EACH directory I post them to. This means I am not posting my 'original article' to any directory. I've had so many mixed answers about syndication, and whether or not spinning is even necessary, that I decided I should take the "better safe than sorry route". Plus, since Google hates duplicate content, It's not as if a duplicate article is going to rank twice. If the article doesn't rank at all, I still gain the backlink none-the-less. If one of you wants to give me a very clear and concise methodology that improves upon mine, while also addressing each and every sentence within this paragraph, that would be greatly appreciated, but I am in fear for my affiliate future if I keep receiving indirect, contradictory, or unexplained responses. I am already fighting information overload. GOD I WISH I HAD A MENTOR

        I have another quick question I was hoping someone could answer. I am currently ranking pretty well for a bunch of "non-converting" keywords. I was curious if I should put any effort into increasing their rank? I mean, If I am naturally ranking 12th for these words, then it couldn't take to much effort to rank up right? I know it may seem unnecessary from a sales perspective, but asset wise, would it be beneficial? Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author techbul
    Ok, let's take your questions point-by-point.
    ezine will never accept your spun content and that's the most important directory link you want to have. Now, I suggest you don't spin the articles you have on your website, as that is not a good thing.
    What I use to do, is have somebody write me an unique article (You can write that yourself, if you have time) that I then submit to ezinearticles. They should approve it between 4 and 7 days. After that, I take the article on ezine and spin it once and submit it to auto-approve article directories. Then, I make a spun article for each of the other top directories (such as Goarticles, Articlesbase, etc.) that are not as strict as ezine and will allow spun content if it is unique and barely readable.
    Then you have to repeat it for each keyword until you start ranking.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattdrish
      Originally Posted by Ord Allenbea View Post

      Contact me and I will mentor you.
      I greatly appreciate your help. I will contact you the second I reach "50 posts". It won't let me send PM's otherwise.

      Originally Posted by techbul View Post

      Ok, let's take your questions point-by-point.
      ezine will never accept your spun content and that's the most important directory link you want to have. Now, I suggest you don't spin the articles you have on your website, as that is not a good thing.
      What I use to do, is have somebody write me an unique article (You can write that yourself, if you have time) that I then submit to ezinearticles. They should approve it between 4 and 7 days. After that, I take the article on ezine and spin it once and submit it to auto-approve article directories. Then, I make a spun article for each of the other top directories (such as Goarticles, Articlesbase, etc.) that are not as strict as ezine and will allow spun content if it is unique and barely readable.
      Then you have to repeat it for each keyword until you start ranking.
      Thank you. Very direct and on-point. Quick question though, I have already been spinning my website articles and submitting them to directories. Do you suggest that I REMOVE THEM from the directories and follow your plan? Or simply follow your plan from here on.
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  • Profile picture of the author techbul
    Removing them would be a great pain in the arse, in my opinion. I think it won't hurt you in the long term if you let them there. Assuming you continue adding articles to your website and stop spinning those, you are fine and in the end probably the first links with help too.
    Just start using that plan from here on. Writing only one article and getting a lot of links for it is pretty great.
    This step is a bit optional, but this is what I do: After you publish the articles, go on Wordpress.com and Blogger.com and sign for a free blog. There add an article ( can be original, can be spun, can be blatantly copied, I have used all methods ) with a nice picture and two links at the end. One to your website and the other one to the ezinearticles link.
    Do this for ezinearticles, goarticles and articlesbase. In the end you will have 3 Wordpress.com and 3 Blogger.com blogs that would pass juice towards your website.
    Hope this helps! And if you have any questions, really, feel free to ask. If I know something that may help you, I will share it.
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  • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    So, everytime I spin an article, I can upload that version of the spun article to multiple article websites correct? I don't need to spin it for each article website I upload it to?

    To be frank, we all like spun article to publish in multiple article directories but did you think about the reader of that article? Will it be impressive for them? or get you the desired result? almost all time spun article kill the beuty of the article.
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  • Profile picture of the author IrishMarketer
    Never, ever put a spun article on ezine article.

    Techbull system is similar to what i use.
    Also social book mark your article on ezines, then the blogs.

    Anthony
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    So, everytime I spin an article, I can upload that version of the spun article to multiple article websites correct? I don't need to spin it for each article website I upload it to?
    Quite a lot of what's above is mistaken and misguided.

    If you're willing to invest the time it will take to read the following posts/threads slowly and carefully, Matt, they will help you a great deal.

    Is Writing Articles and Submitting to Top Article Directories Still Have Value

    Quit spinning your damn articles

    Article Marketing: is the spin really necessary?

    How do Article Directories work?
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  • Profile picture of the author JimWaller
    As usual, Alexa is a great source of information. I think the biggest problem with article marketing is there are two schools of thought on how to approach it.
    One side says write quality articles and webmasters will pick them up from article sites use them on their sites and backlink to yours from the author bio box giving you lots of links back to your site.
    The other side says write one article spin it thousands of times and submit it to article directory sites knowing no one will post such unreadable garbage on their sites, but you will have lots of backlinks to your site from the usually high PR article sites.
    In theory, both are capable of achieving your desired result of better page ranking, but the first also allows you to develop a good reputation for writing quality content.
    There are variations, of course, but those two seem to be the main ones I've encountered.
    I hope this helps clarify things for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
      Originally Posted by JimWaller View Post

      The other side says write one article spin it thousands of times and submit it to article directory sites knowing no one will post such unreadable garbage on their sites, but you will have lots of backlinks to your site from the usually high PR article sites.
      Definitely not trying to pick on you, Jim, but here's the problem with that side of the coin... Even if the article directory's home page has a high PR, your articles aren't getting published on the home page. Instead, they're published on their own individual page that has a PR0.

      Add that to the fact that you've got people "blasting" and "mass submitting" articles to thousands of different directories - most of which are so low on the totem pole that they rarely get spidered (meaning it can take your article weeks or months to get credit for the PR0 link it's getting there).

      And now that we've all been told that Google is adding relevancy of links to its ever-growing algorithm list, it's easy to see why that side of the coin isn't the most time-efficient (or the most successful) way to go. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that even just a few articles that get syndicated on some relevant, authority sites are going to give you more of an SEO boost that the spin-blast-repeat method
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      • Profile picture of the author stephenwaldo
        Originally Posted by JimWaller View Post

        He also mentioned that there is no penalty across multiple domains (that belong to other people of course), which is true. However, some people would consider their article going to the supplemental index a penalty, because it can't rank in Google, which may be their goal. (I'm not sure why they would want this, but it is possible. As long as your links are intact, it may not matter to you where your site ranks.)
        Yes, I considered explaining this, but I didn't want to make my post any more elaborate than it needed to be since the OP expressed an interest in at least somewhat concise explanation, and I know that's something I'm really bad at (in case you can't tell)

        Content that goes into the supplemental index will never rank, and some will argue that it does not pass as much 'link juice' as content in the main index that DOES rank. This makes perfect sense, and seems logical, but ultimately we don't really know Google's algorithm or how the folks at Google think.

        The other side of the coin would be that the index you're relegated to and the "trust rank" (Google it) passed through your domain have no correlation without any other external variables, but again, we really don't know for sure either way.

        What we DO know is that content in the supplemental index DOES pass SOME form of 'link juice', and that having content placed in the supplemental content isn't a penalty, but a relegation of priority. So, take that as you will.

        I don't want to risk confusing the OP with talk of penalties that aren't penalties, which is why I didn't initially discuss the semantics of the supplemental index. Especially because in its proper form Article Marketing is NOT an SEO strategy, but a traffic strategy; you NEVER want any of your republished articles to rank above your own original. With article marketing, the supplemental index is your best friend whether you consider it a penalty or not.

        Originally Posted by JimWaller View Post

        He also stated, "I'm not one of those people that's going to tell you that spinning is for the devil, because I do believe that it has its place in Internet marketing..." which is also true. An example would be if you want to make PLR content unique, you could run it through a spinner to get ideas for variation, and clean it up later so it is good and readable.

        I only bring this up, because it has application in article marketing (Before anyone goes CRAZY, I mean PLR content can give you a base of knowledge from which to create your own quality, unique content) Much like spinning, PLR is not "for the devil" if used properly.
        Ah, excellent example. Hadn't even thought about PLR. Another example would be if you use backlink services such as ArticleRanks, UAW or AuthorityLinkNetwork. Again, here the goal is to get maximum backlink value.

        Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett View Post

        Definitely not trying to pick on you, Jim, but here's the problem with that side of the coin... Even if the article directory's home page has a high PR, your articles aren't getting published on the home page. Instead, they're published on their own individual page that has a PR0.

        Add that to the fact that you've got people "blasting" and "mass submitting" articles to thousands of different directories - most of which are so low on the totem pole that they rarely get spidered (meaning it can take your article weeks or months to get credit for the PR0 link it's getting there).

        And now that we've all been told that Google is adding relevancy of links to its ever-growing algorithm list, it's easy to see why that side of the coin isn't the most time-efficient (or the most successful) way to go. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that even just a few articles that get syndicated on some relevant, authority sites are going to give you more of an SEO boost that the spin-blast-repeat method
        All excellent points and compelling arguments for article syndication. Article syndication is easy, requires less than 5 minutes of extra work to leverage your content, and it drives traffic WITHOUT Google while still offering potentially huge SEO bonuses if your content is republished in the right places. There is no denying any of these statements.

        That being said, and without offering any shiny new objects to the OP (THIS IS NOT FOR YOU, OP! STICK TO SYNDICATION!) the argument always has been and always will be that, to some degree, a backlink is a backlink is a backlink AND that backlinks are still the biggest ranking factor in the algorithm.

        Obviously, anyone who really knows their stuff SEO-wise isn't going to rely on AMR and jank spinning to rank their content, that's not what I'm saying. What I AM saying is that - without going into it in detail - tools that serve the same general goal as AMR do have their place, whether white-hatters like it or not. Google has a very advanced algorithm, but it's not even close to the point where manipulation is impossible...Blackhat tools are designed to do exactly that, and in the right hands that's exactly what they do.

        Again, I am personally neutral in the whitehat vs blackhat argument. They both have their pros/cons, and neither is entirely irrefutable from a results perspective...There's always another argument, especially since Google is always changing things up.

        Probably the best argument right now, though, is actually the seeming decline of organic SEO. Google is taking away more and more of the first page to devote to it's own services, advertisements and people who are willing to bend over backwards to use as many Google products as possible.

        For many competitive terms, even if I orchestrated a perfect SEO campaign, unless I'm ranked first or second I am probably beneath the fold, which means the traffic I get from that ranking is significantly reduced. This, to me, seems like it's only going to get worse (or better, depending on how you look at it) as Google strives to establish more and more services.

        So! All that being said, article syndication is no doubt one of the easiest and fastest ways to gain incredible leverage from your content for traffic, build relationships with those in your niche, and establish yourself as an authority among your readers. Plus, it gets you outside of Google. A++.

        And do you know what? I have yet to find any tool that makes article syndication any faster it already is. I mean, EzineArticles even has a WP plugin so you can click a button and it syndicates your article. It is the perfect FREE method of promotion...It just doesn't get any easier. Many people have established long term traffic off of this single strategy - Myself included. I have a website that gets ~300 - 600 uniques day that I've only ever promoted with article syndication anytime in the past 2 years (when I've been seeing that kind of traffic).

        I still syndicate all my articles every site that I can. It works incredibly well, you just have to do it!

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    Some free article spinner are not good. Try to buy an article spinner to get a new unique article
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  • Profile picture of the author stephenwaldo
    Okay Matt, listen up. I'm gonna make this simple for you, and I'm going to do what you asked...Address every sentence in that paragraph 1 by 1.

    Stop spinning. Stop reading. Stop listening to people in this thread. Just read what I'm about to tell you...

    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    Right now I am spinning my articles for EACH directory I post them to. This means I am not posting my 'original article' to any directory. I've had so many mixed answers about syndication, and whether or not spinning is even necessary, that I decided I should take the "better safe than sorry route".
    First, to set the record straight - There is NO SUCH THING as duplicate content penalty for content that is the same across multiple domains.

    Okay?

    So if you publish an article on your website, there is ZERO penalty if you syndicate that exact same article to 1,000s of article directories. If you want proof of this, just Google "Matt cutts duplicate content myth".

    The only duplicate content penalty that exists is applied to duplicate content WITHIN YOUR OWN SITE. Okay? So if you published an article on your website, and then publish the exact same article again on your website but on with a different permalink, you would be penalized for that.

    Do you see the difference between the two cocepts?

    Duplicate content across multiple domains = Okay
    Duplicate content multiple times on the same domain = Not okay

    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    Plus, since Google hates duplicate content, It's not as if a duplicate article is going to rank twice.
    Okay, half of this statement is true, and the other half is false. As I already said, Google does not HATE duplicate content. However, they do have a special index for duplicate content - This is called the supplemental index.

    To understand the supplemental index, you need to understand that Google's goal as a search engine is to return the most varied and most relevant results possible for every keyword. The supplemental index is one thing that helps them do that.

    Here's how it works - When Google finds a duplicate copy of an article already in their main index (the index that's used for search engine results), they don't penalize either piece of content, but they DO relegate the duplicate article into their supplemental index.

    Because you're right, Google doesn't want the same piece of content to rank twice...Because that wouldn't be the good for the searcher.

    So then the obvious question is: How do you control which piece of content goes into the main index - the one that's used for search results - and the supplemental index?

    The answer is simple: Google automatically assumes that the first indexed copy of a given piece of content is the original, and all others are relegated to the supplemental index as republished versions of the same content.

    Now, notice that there is no PENALTY anywhere in here. Just because a piece of duplicate content won't rank in the SERPs doesn't mean that it's useless or that it's trust is being penalized in anyway.

    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    If the article doesn't rank at all, I still gain the backlink none-the-less.
    Yes, exactly right. Because as we just explained, a duplicate article still counts, it's just never going to rank. No penalty, just a different index.

    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    If one of you wants to give me a very clear and concise methodology that improves upon mine, while also addressing each and every sentence within this paragraph, that would be greatly appreciated, but I am in fear for my affiliate future if I keep receiving indirect, contradictory, or unexplained responses. I am already fighting information overload.
    Okay, here comes the simplest methodology for true article marketing. This is going to be simple and concise. I'm going to walk you through what you should do with each and every single article that you write:

    #1. Write a high quality, original article and publish it on your website. It should be indexed by Google almost immediately, but you may want to wait a couple hours before proceeding to be safe.

    Remember - Google considers the first copy it finds to be the original, so always make sure your article is indexed on YOUR SITE first.

    #2. Take that exact same article - Yes, EXACT same - And submit it to EzineArticles and up to 4 other article directories. EzineArticles is the only one you really need, but if you're going to do more anyways then limit yourself to 5 total. Anymore and you're wasting your time.

    Okay, now real quick, let's be clear about what exactly an article directory is originally intended for:

    Article directories exist NOT for search engines, NOT for visitors, but for WEBMASTERS (who hate writing). Article directories are a place that webmasters can come to find high quality writing to republish on their own websites or in their own newletters.

    #3. So, ideally what is going to happen is that a webmaster is going to see your article on EzineArticles (and remember, this article has already been published and relegated to the main index from your own website), and then they're going to republish that article on their blog, or send it out to their email list. In return for getting to use your article they'll keep your links intact, so you'll receive traffic and possibly backlinks from every article republished, but their republished version will NEVER outrank your original.

    Well, never say never, but it would be very difficult to do; more difficult than just writing an original piece of content to begin with.

    You can keep track of where your article has been republished by searching for a sentence or two in "quotes" and seeing what comes up.

    When you see that your article has been republished on a high quality site, feel free to privately contact the webmaster and offer exclusive content or see if you can work out a guest post arrangement. This is totally optional though, especially in the beginning.

    Alright, at this point this is everything that you NEED to know.

    If you simply follow these three steps then that is already a much simpler and less time consuming methodology over the spin-and-submit method.

    Just to sum it up clearly:

    #1. Publish an original article on your website.
    #2. Submit that exact same article to EzineArticles plus a few others if you want
    #3. That article will then be republished on other webmasters' blogs and newsletters.
    #4. Rinse and repeat.

    I'm not one of those people that's going to tell you that spinning is for the devil, because I do believe that it has its place in Internet marketing, but it is completely unnecessary, even counter-productive, for leveraging the huge power that is article directories.

    Please let me know if you have any questions, and if it seems like I'm not replying here just shoot me a PM. I'm really bad at keeping up with threads =/

    I hope that something in there helps someone!

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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    Alexa has good info on this, and many people still have not woken up to the fact that article marketing and sydication is changing alot.

    I am glad people have not woken up yet, I do not need the competition

    Actually I been doing article marketing for our financial niche sites the right way even before bum marketing came to the forefront, but now the darn info is becoming main stream, thanks to the warrior forum and other places, but I just Need to keep it secret for as long as I can. **rubs hands**
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  • Profile picture of the author JimWaller
    stephenwaldo explained in more detail what I referred to as the first school of thought. (...write quality articles and webmasters will pick them up...)

    He also mentioned that there is no penalty across multiple domains (that belong to other people of course), which is true. However, some people would consider their article going to the supplemental index a penalty, because it can't rank in Google, which may be their goal. (I'm not sure why they would want this, but it is possible. As long as your links are intact, it may not matter to you where your site ranks.)

    He also stated, "I'm not one of those people that's going to tell you that spinning is for the devil, because I do believe that it has its place in Internet marketing..." which is also true. An example would be if you want to make PLR content unique, you could run it through a spinner to get ideas for variation, and clean it up later so it is good and readable.
    I only bring this up, because it has application in article marketing (Before anyone goes CRAZY, I mean PLR content can give you a base of knowledge from which to create your own quality, unique content) Much like spinning, PLR is not "for the devil" if used properly.

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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    Unique content is always better when it comes to Google. They discourage spun content and it can sometimes affect your ranking ability.
    Article submission is not as effective as it used to be. In terms of SEO I would highly suggest researching some other techneiques such as building high PR backlinks, keyword research, and optimizing your website onsite. These can be more effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I wouldn't use spin articles at all. By the time you've finished correcting all of the errors on the article, you could have probably written an entirely new article from scratch. I have yet to see a good article spinner that makes unique, good articles. Most of them are laughable... which is why i create my own content 100% from hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    The company I work in no longer even submits articles to services like Article Marketing Robot or anything that allows spinning.

    Why?

    Because most of these directories have been deindexed. Google HATES them. They are crap.

    Try guest blog posting on useful sites instead or doing some social media or video marketing. Article marketing is getting weaker and weaker by the minute.
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  • Profile picture of the author JimWaller
    NicoleBeckett I wasn't advocating the second method, I was merely mentioning it exists. Judging by his post, I'd say precious007 knows more about that side of article marketing than I do.
    Personally, I'd rather have content you can read.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beverley Boorer
    Hey everyone, lots of good - and some confusing - advice here. I was not even aware that you could post your website articles on any ezine sites. Ezinearticles especially seems to abhor duplicate content and certainly won't accept plr articles, even if they have been changed quite a bit; I know cause I tried it.
    What I'm wondering is: how do you know that anone who takes your article to use will actually keep your link in it? They could be mean and leave it out even though they are not supposed to....how would you even know?
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    • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
      Originally Posted by Beverley Boorer View Post

      Hey everyone, lots of good - and some confusing - advice here. I was not even aware that you could post your website articles on any ezine sites. Ezinearticles especially seems to abhor duplicate content and certainly won't accept plr articles, even if they have been changed quite a bit; I know cause I tried it.
      What I'm wondering is: how do you know that anone who takes your article to use will actually keep your link in it? They could be mean and leave it out even though they are not supposed to....how would you even know?
      EZA does accept duplicate content. You are fine to post your article on EZA that you have posted on other sites..Just make sure you use the same author name.
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  • Profile picture of the author Avy Smith
    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    So, everytime I spin an article, I can upload that version of the spun article to multiple article websites correct? I don't need to spin it for each article website I upload it to?
    The spun just does not help in any case. Afterall, even you submit the content using AMR who reads the submitted content and who should visit your website? A human that can be converted or a Robot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert T Jillie
    No.

    Every time you spin an article you should upload one unique version of the spun article to only one article directory.

    When you spin your articles you should be getting multiple unique articles of the original. You submit One Unique article (1 spin) to each article director for maximum link juice.

    The search engines -Especially Google - HATE DUPLICATE CONTENT

    Example:
    Spin 1 goes to article directory 1
    Spin 2 goes to article directory 2
    Spin 3 goes to article directory 3
    Spin 4 goes to article directory 4

    Hope this helps!...

    Originally Posted by mattdrish View Post

    So, everytime I spin an article, I can upload that version of the spun article to multiple article websites correct? I don't need to spin it for each article website I upload it to?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
      And the cycle of piss poor bad and unnacurate advice continues.

      Why o why do people keep advising people to spin articles? Especially after the panda update?

      There is no such thing as duplicate content except on your own website.

      The same article posted accross multiple different websites and ezines comes under the definition of "syndication."

      They are not the same thing.

      -Chris

      Originally Posted by Robert T Jillie View Post

      No.

      Every time you spin an article you should upload one unique version of the spun article to only one article directory.

      When you spin your articles you should be getting multiple unique articles of the original. You submit One Unique article (1 spin) to each article director for maximum link juice.

      The search engines -Especially Google - HATE DUPLICATE CONTENT

      Example:
      Spin 1 goes to article directory 1
      Spin 2 goes to article directory 2
      Spin 3 goes to article directory 3
      Spin 4 goes to article directory 4

      Hope this helps!...
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    yes just wait till alexa gets here, she is going to tear some people a thing-a-me-bob. LOL.

    Do not spin articles, I am hearing those that keep spinning articles are going on a list and will be sent to FEMA camps. I am thinking about becoming an affiliate for this program...LOL....look out.

    stop spinning junk that is written by a 3 year old, what use it is. Start writing valuable content that actually helps people out.....nah....that would be silly right......you are right too much hard work ey?
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  • Profile picture of the author Asher
    Hi celente,

    I sent you a PM. Please check it... something pretty important.

    Asher

    *hops back into lurk mode*
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