Internet Marketing -- Reasons why some should just GIVE UP.

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I don't mean to be rude here. I only possess this knowledge because I've "been there".

I've seen too many posts of people saying they've spent over $10,000 on marketing material, spent 2-3 years trying to succeed and still haven't made a dime.

Here's a familiar pattern:

You buy an ebook or course. It's been recommended by other warriors, got great reviews. The sales page is incredibly enticing.

You part with your $77, read through the guide with big energy and enthusiasm. You take the first steps, work hard for a week or two.

But you notice something. This isn't quite what it seems. The work is difficult, boring, and you haven't made thousands of dollars yet. Must be something wrong? Maybe this isn't for you.

But look! There's another guide/course/membership that seems enticing. The technique is different. That's what was wrong -- you were doing the wrong thing. This new membership is only another $77. This one is it, this one is the key.

But you notice something. This isn't quite what it seems. The work is difficult, boring, and you haven't made thousands of dollars yet. Must be something wrong? Maybe this isn't for you.

Ah, but there is a WSO, with something different. It only cost $7. And, you can make $300 in 24 hours. This is definitely the one. Oh, and the one underneath it in the WSO section. Only $9.97. These two techniques combined, you'll make thousands in week one. No problem.

But you notice something. This isn't quite what it seems. The work is difficult, boring, and you haven't made thousands of dollars yet. Must be something wrong? Maybe this isn't for you.

But there is a coaching program. This is $500. It's a lot of money, but the guarantee is phenomenal. You can make $5k a month. Hold you by the hand, one on one coaching. How can you fail?? Plus, with that 5k, it will cover all the costs of the other ebooks, courses, memberships that had failed you.

But you notice something. This isn't quite what it seems. The work is difficult, boring, and you haven't made thousands of dollars yet. Must be something wrong? Maybe this isn't for you.

And so on, and so on, and so on.

Surely alarm bells should be ringing?

I say I've been there. In fact, in some ways, I'm still there.

I don't want other people to be in this position.

If you are, force your way out of it, before your bank empties, and your partner threatens divorce.

Succeeding on line takes a LOT of discipline. If you're inexperienced, you need to concentrate on one single strategy until you succeed. You need to stop yourself buying new shiny objects. They always end up being the same as the last.


The hard work pays off. The rewards are amazing, but you must stick with the plan. See it through to the end.

Patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    Good post, it's not until you find something that you're passionate about that you will see results. If you're buying something just because you think it will make you rich it's no better than working a job you hate because it pays well.

    Buy products on topics that you are interested in from people who you like and respect, and you'll get better results that buying products on subjects you hate from people who are able to write a good salesletter.

    eg. If you hate adwords don't buy products on Facebook Advertising or Media Buying, they're all the same sort of thing and will make you get deeper into debt if you don't know what you're doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author arny660
      Yep, good advice. I wondered where the post was going when I first started it!

      I agree with you that it is important to find something that you are passionate about and then TAKE ACTION until you succeed at it. Of course, it will probably be boring until you get the hang of it (most things are) but if you love what you are doing, it shouldn't feel like work.

      If you persist, it will certainly pay off because the internet is absolutely huge - it really is the city that never sleeps. There are millions of buyers online every second of every day, and you just have to build a great product and then get that product in front of them. Jumping from shiny new object to shiny new object won't get you there.

      I agree it take persistence and dedication, but it is certainly worth it.

      The most important thing is to Take Action, Take Action, Take Action.

      Good Luck,

      Arny
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahparks
    I've read a lot about the "shiny object syndrome" (or S.O.S. - appropriate!), but I've yet to read true, applicable advice on how to find a GOOD program to stick with. Everyone says "stick with something and see it through," but most newbies - okay, let's face it, all newbies who don't have a stellar mentor in their corner at the get-go - have no idea how to separate the wheat from the chaff. They're thinking, "How do I know if this is good? What if it does work? What if it doesn't? What if I don't have enough experience and background knowledge of Internet Marketing yet to know how to tell either way?" I feel for those newbies because I was one. And I myself couldn't really tell you which program works great because I'm still slogging through. But you can imagine if all they have to go by is all the sales letters and squeeze pages they read that all clamor, "MINE is the best one!" those poor newbies must just be completely overwhelmed. And they open up their wallet one more time. A truly unique thread would be a list of general guidelines of things to look for, red flags, etc. (beyond just "one-click profit claims are a scam") that newbies can then take into any sales page to discern better which IM approach would be best for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author World Marketing
    Good post I think a lot of us have been in that situation when we were starting out in our IM careers. The best thing to do is obviously be persistent but to gather the right information to design a plan of attack and stick to that plan 100%.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vtoy
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      Here we go again...
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      • Profile picture of the author AdenWhite
        Originally Posted by Vtoy View Post

        Here we go again...
        -- Meaning?
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  • Profile picture of the author mightiest
    The strategy should be "don't buy anything until you have a plan," not "buy things that will give you a plan."

    Here's a hint about most SEO guides and products: if they worked half as well as the owners claimed, they wouldn't be selling it for $75, $100, or even $1,000. Think about it. If I have a new technique that can rank me for competitive terms for Google, why would I sell it to you? That $75 I get from you pales in comparison to the $300 or whatever I could be generating monthly with a top ranking domain on low-comp, low-volume keywords.

    Don't buy into the "I don't have time to make this work for me which is why I'm giving it to you" stuff or the "I'm selling this because there are literally infinite niches this can be applied to." It's BS.

    If the seller really didn't have time to literally mint money by ranking sites number, his first move would be to hire VAs and staff to boost his output. There are marketers out there cranking out 300 sites per month with a few VAs and lots of outsourcing. Again, think about the numbers. The seller gets $75 from you. Once. Using his super secret awesome method, he could be making that annually from the sites he built himself for years.

    That doesn't mean there aren't good products out there, but be wary of people who are offering you the moon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roan
    yes thats the hardest part isn't it? Patience.
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    • Profile picture of the author AdenWhite
      Originally Posted by Roan View Post

      yes thats the hardest part isn't it? Patience.
      No kidding, I have a picture on my wall that simply says "Patience".
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    I found this post to very good and very true. Like many I have worked for sometime with minimal resluts. I have learned a lot and I feel like I am learning something useful everyday. One of the most important lessons is to not jump from one method to another (or one course, software, WSO, guru, etc) but to find an approach that makes sense to you and stick with it. At the same time be flexible enough to make adjustments in your "sysstem" if it is not working yet.......... oh, it also helps to be a persistent SOB!
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    • Profile picture of the author AdenWhite
      Originally Posted by DWaters View Post

      I found this post to very good and very true. Like many I have worked for sometime with minimal resluts. I have learned a lot and I feel like I am learning something useful everyday. One of the most important lessons is to not jump from one method to another (or one course, software, WSO, guru, etc) but to find an approach that makes sense to you and stick with it. At the same time be flexible enough to make adjustments in your "sysstem" if it is not working yet.......... oh, it also helps to be a persistent SOB!
      I've heard it said time and time again.

      Make $5 with something, then just multiply your efforts and scale it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Flores
    totally been there, and I think you identified the main problem for most people trying to break into this business: they keep jumping around to the next big thing, rather than focusing on one thing and giving it their all. That was me all day when I first got started.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
    I made some money with the first info product I ever bought Matt Furey's "The Stay at Home internet millionaire" I knew this was the tip of the iceberg so I reinvested that in a product by the Claytons. For those of you who don't know Steve and his partner Tim make top of the range info products, howvere the one I bought from them was not for me and after going half way through thr course realised it was not suited to my skill set at the time.

    When they launched their next product it sounded perfect for me - I got it and followed EXACTLY what they said ..it took me over 1 year to make my first sale on that product ..but once I made that first one the flood gates opened and I have been making great money from that product ever since

    So I guess the point I am trying to make is sometime we jump from SOS to SOS cuz we know that the product isn't right for us but once you do find the right one stick with it and DO NOT GIVE UP
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    • Profile picture of the author AdenWhite
      Originally Posted by Aussie_Al View Post

      I made some money with the first info product I ever bought Matt Furey's "The Stay at Home internet millionaire" I knew this was the tip of the iceberg so I reinvested that in a product by the Claytons. For those of you who don't know Steve and his partner Tim make top of the range info products, howvere the one I bought from them was not for me and after going half way through thr course realised it was not suited to my skill set at the time.

      When they launched their next product it sounded perfect for me - I got it and followed EXACTLY what they said ..it took me over 1 year to make my first sale on that product ..but once I made that first one the flood gates opened and I have been making great money from that product ever since

      So I guess the point I am trying to make is sometime we jump from SOS to SOS cuz we know that the product isn't right for us but once you do find the right one stick with it and DO NOT GIVE UP
      I think you're definitely right in that respect. Find something that's right for you and stick with it. Just don't get yourself caught up with trying too many different things before the first thing has had a chance...
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    There are several reasons why some people should give up on making money online, but I think the biggest is having the employee mindset. These people basically need a boss to tell them what to do, and to run to if even the slightest abnormality pops up. They like the "comfort" of a steady paycheck. They like not having to deal with all of the stuff that goes into making a business.

    Sure, they daydream about getting out of the rat race, but the truth is that it is ONLY a daydream because they take no REAL action to make it happen. They believe there is some secret being withheld from them, and if they could only find it, then riches would follow.

    I'm not saying they are wrong or bad for having this mindset, but that having the employee mindset clouds their vision when it comes to making money online.

    The good news is that it IS possible to break free from that mindset. In fact, I highly recommend it, because being your own boss is hard in its own way, but man, is it a blast!

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      If you cannot at least make a Profit in your first year after working really, hard then you might just give up. We are not talking about a $3,000 a month profit but a profit even if it is this $10 !!
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmylarge
    It took me 2,5 years before i made my fisrt 100$ online, now 6 years later i owe a internet business, and a seo consultant business that makes me over 1000$ a day.

    so just hang in there everybody can make it
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  • Profile picture of the author David Mcalorum
    It seems all too boring sometimes because....

    ITS WORK!

    There, I said it.

    The work, gets more exciting when you make money, yes,
    and even more exciting when you make more money with LESS WORK.

    Most people in this industry don't have the patience to deal with that.

    I actually know a BILLIONAIRE (not b.sing either)
    And she said that if your not successful at something
    in two years, then its probably best you move on.

    Something to think about for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author merigot123
    Just Don't give up too soon!!!

    Yeah! we hear that all time. In my humble opinion there is a learning curve we all have to go through before we get to the promise land. That experience can be different for everybody. Some people come to this internet marketing thing and get success right away for other it takes time.

    Just like few folks said earlier, your primarily have to focus on one area and one area only until you have success before investing your time hard earn money into another area otherwise you will be so knowledge constipated and end not doing anything and losing your shirt very fast. The lack of focus can make you want to be all over the place and going nowhere fast.

    Beware! One thing at the time until experience success before you move to the other "Shiny Thing" otherwise you are in for a tremendous amount of frustration and despair.

    That can lead to an easy way out and an excuse to quit overnight.
    Don't do it. Stay rather plugged in and focused on one thing and only aspect of the business until you become good and successful at it and move on to the next thing.

    This is a great topic.

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    • Profile picture of the author alphalife
      Thanks to the author of this thread for inspiring me to write my own on the subject

      I personally believe that "can't do" is a matter of choice and not a matter of fact.

      If you really want to make it...not only can you...but you will.

      Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author icegin
    This is a great post and I can definitely relate. When people first start out online, the "shiny objects" everywhere can be very enticing and, before you know it, you've spent hundreds (maybe thousands) of dollars buying various products/services instead of actually putting in the effort to do something. Patience and focus are key
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  • Profile picture of the author Decanus
    Originally Posted by AdenWhite View Post

    I don't mean to be rude here. I only possess this knowledge because I've "been there".

    I've seen too many posts of people saying they've spent over $10,000 on marketing material, spent 2-3 years trying to succeed and still haven't made a dime.

    Here's a familiar pattern:

    You buy an ebook or course. It's been recommended by other warriors, got great reviews. The sales page is incredibly enticing.

    You part with your $77, read through the guide with big energy and enthusiasm. You take the first steps, work hard for a week or two.

    But you notice something. This isn't quite what it seems. The work is difficult, boring, and you haven't made thousands of dollars yet. Must be something wrong? Maybe this isn't for you.

    But look! There's another guide/course/membership that seems enticing. The technique is different. That's what was wrong -- you were doing the wrong thing. This new membership is only another $77. This one is it, this one is the key.

    But you notice something. This isn't quite what it seems. The work is difficult, boring, and you haven't made thousands of dollars yet. Must be something wrong? Maybe this isn't for you.

    Ah, but there is a WSO, with something different. It only cost $7. And, you can make $300 in 24 hours. This is definitely the one. Oh, and the one underneath it in the WSO section. Only $9.97. These two techniques combined, you'll make thousands in week one. No problem.

    But you notice something. This isn't quite what it seems. The work is difficult, boring, and you haven't made thousands of dollars yet. Must be something wrong? Maybe this isn't for you.

    But there is a coaching program. This is $500. It's a lot of money, but the guarantee is phenomenal. You can make $5k a month. Hold you by the hand, one on one coaching. How can you fail?? Plus, with that 5k, it will cover all the costs of the other ebooks, courses, memberships that had failed you.

    But you notice something. This isn't quite what it seems. The work is difficult, boring, and you haven't made thousands of dollars yet. Must be something wrong? Maybe this isn't for you.

    And so on, and so on, and so on.

    Surely alarm bells should be ringing?

    I say I've been there. In fact, in some ways, I'm still there.

    I don't want other people to be in this position.

    If you are, force your way out of it, before your bank empties, and your partner threatens divorce.

    Succeeding on line takes a LOT of discipline. If you're inexperienced, you need to concentrate on one single strategy until you succeed. You need to stop yourself buying new shiny objects. They always end up being the same as the last.


    The hard work pays off. The rewards are amazing, but you must stick with the plan. See it through to the end.

    Patience.
    Great post. As a newbie, I've found it is so easy to get your head turned by every special offer/ promise that comes along. I've bought a few bits here and there, but deliberately nothing expensive, and quickly realised its best to find your angle, stick to that, and work from there.
    If you throw cash at everyone and everything you are a fool, this is internet MARKETING after all!
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  • Profile picture of the author marcelomusza
    I think that all this world encloses in only one word: WORK.
    IM is a business, like any other and it takes a lot of time, effort and even investment to make it work correctly. Most people that do not accept this, sooner or later fall behind and quit everything.
    Great post AdenWhite!
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Warriors
    Yeah, it's the same pattern in EVERY self development field. Weight loss, investments, dating, you name it. If you're addicted to information products as a form of entertainment, you're probably using the products to delude yourself into thinking you're making progress you're really not making.

    I made my first ever financial investment in Internet Marketing last week. It was $37 for a war room membership, and I didn't spend that money until after I had made $20,000 from various online enterprises already. That, I think, is a healthy approach to internet marketing.

    Another thing is that a lot of IM products build online businesses up as this huge thing, with all this talk of "overcoming your fears" and crapola like that. Once you've taken in too many messages like that it's easy to get a bad case of information overload/analysis paralysis.
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  • Profile picture of the author sofus
    Great Post.

    1. It takes time
    2. It takes money
    3. Take your time
    4. Spend money, but be careful
    5. Take your time reading great advice in this forum
    6. Look out for serious training that you can buy
    7. Before you do any of the above, ask your self: What do I love?, what do I know? Pay close attention to that inner voice. You should get a great smile on your face thinking of it. Write it down on PAPER. Start thinking about how it will be if you could make a living out of it online – doing what you love. A lot of people will be glad if you did.
    8. The number of new beginnings: Learn how to create a product that you can sell in this forum
    9. Hope some of this was helpful;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author loi77
    Great advice.

    However, as a newbie myself, I also believe that spending time on research and learning before jumping into it is crucial. Hard work without the RIGHT knowledge is going to cost you a lot of time, effort and money. For example, if you choose the wrong niche or wrong keywords, no matter how hard you try you will never succeed.

    Have a good day!
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  • Profile picture of the author Daystar11
    I definitely understand the shiny object syndrome- falling for one dazzling sales letter after another; hey, they really work (hint, hint- they're an education unto themselves, those sales letters.)

    But coming into the whole online experience, after licking one's wounds from the offline world, its a brand new world- what better way to open one's mind, use one's imagination, and play, enjoy the experience, to learn, and train for the whole new career soon coming? Its not all bad, and why not be entertained and have some fun?
    That's ok for awhile; the trick is not to get trapped in it. Exploring new options is a necessary part of the process. Then at some point- different for everyone-its time topick one to start, get into action.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdenWhite
    I think one recommendation is this: If you insist in buying info products, at the very least, stick to the same area you started with. Example, if you're an "offliner", stick with info products that will help score offline clients, rather than hopping onto something else.
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  • Profile picture of the author chall vandenbergh
    you are completely right internetmarketing is a buisness it isnt a quick fix if you you want quick money go take a gig on fyfer there are gigs there that pay 500 dollar for a day work
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    Originally Posted by AdenWhite View Post



    The hard work pays off. The rewards are amazing, but you must stick with the plan. See it through to the end.

    Patience.
    I am far from being a newbie, but I took this and made a wallpaper out of it.

    Everytime I drift off from work and start doing stupid s***, I'll take a look and i'll know what I really should be doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author AdenWhite
      Originally Posted by ryanmilligan View Post

      I am far from being a newbie, but I took this and made a wallpaper out of it.

      Everytime I drift off from work and start doing stupid s***, I'll take a look and i'll know what I really should be doing.
      Thanks Ryan!

      I also purchased an A4 clip frame this week, with the word "Patience" and the dictionary definition. It's on the wall behind the computer.

      It's not that I don't know it already, but the human mind can become lazy, and needs reminding sometimes, especially in times of frustration.
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  • Profile picture of the author kasher9
    That's with any type of business, if you don't have the willpower to put things into action, then you'll never get anywhere, let alone IM. I know people who HATE computers yet they do IM because they're determined to make money wherever possible.
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  • Originally Posted by AdenWhite View Post


    The hard work pays off. The rewards are amazing, but you must stick with the plan. See it through to the end.

    Patience.
    So very true indeed. People just don't seem to realize that you need to stick to a fixed plan.

    I have a spreadsheet with my goals for the next 6 months, 12 months and 24 months.
    I have another tab in that spreadsheet which has my day to day tasks I need to work on to make those goals come true.

    All I need to do is execute them! It's that easy.
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  • The thing is that IM is a business (and online business), and some people are simply not cut out to run a business, online or otherwise.
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