Are people shooting themselves in the foot...

by fin
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Even if they have really great content?

Maybe it's just me and my opinion is bias. I completely understand that other people may not feel this way, but let's see...

I think people are forgetting the basics: paragraph size, font and size.

Never mind the grammar, spelling, syntax... etc.

If seen far too many blogs where they just look terrible. The paragraphs are nearly half a page long of block text, the font is so obscure that it hurts the eyes to read what's written, or the writing is to big or small that it makes for unpleasant reading.

What's wrong with people? Can they not step back and look at it from a visitors point of view? Maybe they have great content, but they're selling themselves short if nobody wants to read it.

But hey... maybe it's just me.

What do you think?
#foot #people #shooting
  • Profile picture of the author Dominican
    Those people need to study the English language again, as they have forgotten the need for paragraph spacing, and where it fits in.

    I know people who speak perfectly fluent English, yet they still don't even know what a semicolon is for, nor do they completely understand how to use commas either.

    Of course, I am not perfect, however I do try to make my writing readable, by doing such.

    Also, the people who write as you (the OP) stated, I also believe they are just writing everything how it sounds in their head, forgetting to also put the breaks, stops, and pauses as they would flow 'in the head' as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author kerry3280
      I think you are absolutely right.

      But I don't necessarily think it's that people cannot do it properly. I think it's laziness. They don't actually really care about what is on their blog. It is a means to make money and they don't see that even if that is the way they view it, they should be taking pride in it.

      Let alone, of course, that if it is awful it will make them pennies at most!
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    I know about grammar & spacing, however when I write on my blog, a forum post, whatever, I try to limit each 'paragraph' to just a few lines each.

    Even when it should technically be 1 paragraph, I still try to break things up. People dont like having to decipher these giant walls of text.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    I think you are correct to a degree. Those same people probably wonder why they can't make any money or get sign ups either.

    I guy asked me to review his site and frankly, had he not asked me to look at it, I would've bounced off the minute I bounced on.

    When I gave him my opinion, which he asked for remember, he defended every part of it and didn't change a thing.

    Then two weeks later he comes back to me and wants to know why he isn't making any money because his site is so much better than most because of the content.

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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by fin View Post

    I think people are forgetting the basics: paragraph size, font and size.
    They're not forgetting. You have to know something to forget it.

    Most people don't know how to express themselves effectively. We've made it very easy for people to express themselves on the internet, but since they don't know how, it doesn't make their expressions any better.

    Not so long ago, publishing your opinions on the internet largely involved being the sort of person who wanted to publish opinions enough to learn how.

    But now we've lowered the bar to the point that a sixteen year old girl can text "I like tapioca LOL" from her high school cafeteria and it shows up simultaneously on Tumblr, Twitter, MySpace, and Facebook.

    So those of us who used the internet all these years to avoid that kind of pointless and banal conversation have now lost our safe haven, right?

    WRONG!

    - Don't follow this person on Tumblr or Twitter
    - Don't friend this person on MySpace or Facebook
    - If you have done either of those things, go undo it

    Now you are largely safe from that person's general idiocy.

    What people who complain about these things are really complaining about isn't that the world is so full of mouth-breathers (which it is), but that it is so hard for them to find rational sensible people they can follow and friend.

    This is mostly because the mouth-breathers have discovered SEO, and now all our search results are crap.

    So we have to network manually with people who don't suck, and get referrals from them to other people who don't suck.

    Which is exactly what people like us did before the internet.

    The world isn't horrible. It's gotten a lot easier for people to find other people. We had this short period of time that it was trivial to find other smart, technical people... but that's over. Live with it. We're still better off than the days finding those people required multiple hours of long distance charges.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      This is mostly because the mouth-breathers have discovered SEO, and now all our search results are crap.

      So we have to network manually with people who don't suck
      I agree with your entire post, of course, and can offer you only the observation that if the mouth-breathers are also simultaneously sucking, a proportion of them may suffocate or drown.
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    • Profile picture of the author rrm
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Most people don't know how to express themselves effectively. We've made it very easy for people to express themselves on the internet, but since they don't know how, it doesn't make their expressions any better.

      Not so long ago, publishing your opinions on the internet largely involved being the sort of person who wanted to publish opinions enough to learn how.

      But now we've lowered the bar to the point that a sixteen year old girl can text "I like tapioca LOL" from her high school cafeteria and it shows up simultaneously on Tumblr, Twitter, MySpace, and Facebook.
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      So true, not knowing how to express themselves.

      But I kinda doubt the sixteen year old girl who would text "I like tapioca LOL" would even know how to spell "tapioca."

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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Warriors
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      This is mostly because the mouth-breathers have discovered SEO, and now all our search results are crap.

      So we have to network manually with people who don't suck, and get referrals from them to other people who don't suck.

      Which is exactly what people like us did before the internet.

      The world isn't horrible. It's gotten a lot easier for people to find other people. We had this short period of time that it was trivial to find other smart, technical people... but that's over. Live with it. We're still better off than the days finding those people required multiple hours of long distance charges.
      I think this post was basically an unintentional endorsement of social media as web content filtering tool. Google will never come up with an algorithm that's as good as your own ability to unfriend a demonstrable idiot and stop receiving whatever spammy content they send your way.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      They're not forgetting. You have to know something to forget it.

      Most people don't know how to express themselves effectively. We've made it very easy for people to express themselves on the internet, but since they don't know how, it doesn't make their expressions any better.

      Not so long ago, publishing your opinions on the internet largely involved being the sort of person who wanted to publish opinions enough to learn how.

      But now we've lowered the bar to the point that a sixteen year old girl can text "I like tapioca LOL" from her high school cafeteria and it shows up simultaneously on Tumblr, Twitter, MySpace, and Facebook.

      So those of us who used the internet all these years to avoid that kind of pointless and banal conversation have now lost our safe haven, right?

      WRONG!

      - Don't follow this person on Tumblr or Twitter
      - Don't friend this person on MySpace or Facebook
      - If you have done either of those things, go undo it

      Now you are largely safe from that person's general idiocy.

      What people who complain about these things are really complaining about isn't that the world is so full of mouth-breathers (which it is), but that it is so hard for them to find rational sensible people they can follow and friend.

      This is mostly because the mouth-breathers have discovered SEO, and now all our search results are crap.

      So we have to network manually with people who don't suck, and get referrals from them to other people who don't suck.

      Which is exactly what people like us did before the internet.

      The world isn't horrible. It's gotten a lot easier for people to find other people. We had this short period of time that it was trivial to find other smart, technical people... but that's over. Live with it. We're still better off than the days finding those people required multiple hours of long distance charges.
      Say wut??? LOL

      That's a nice post. Unfortunately, I was talking about "businessmen/women" with websites, and not 16 yr old girls on Facebook.

      Don't get me wrong, I doesn't annoy me. These people are my competition and their wrong doings helps me.

      I was just posting so it might save 1 warrior from going down "that road".

      Don't get me started on navigation or making things easy for people .
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  • Profile picture of the author NickVCover
    If the text grabs the reader's attention and draws him in, then it is successful and that is what matters.

    While I am all for "Proper" English in the books I read, the rules are more liberal when trying to grab online eyes. So my paragraph is made up of one sentence, so what? Is my English teacher going to track me down? Not likely.

    Two other points: write with an active voice and put your best material first. The first makes for more compelling copy and the second insures that everybody who reads any part of your page sees the strongest material.
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    • Profile picture of the author ELK
      The Kids These Days need to pay better attention in English class. Mostly to understand the effect it will have on the rest of their lives.

      They may not become a chemist, a biologist, a historian, or mathematician. But they'll be using the English language a heck of a lot.

      I don't believe many people (kids or grownups) understand what their good or poor use of the language does for their personal reputation.
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