How Many Guru Lists Are You ON?

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I am proud to say that I went cold turkey for guru list addiction about a year ago and wham!, my business immediately started to grow.

Could there be a connection? Or is this just an amazing coincidence?
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  • Profile picture of the author Holmstrom
    Good, and right decision what you have made. I`m on many marketers list, but they are not "gurus". Most of these are warriors
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    Travis Sago is the only guru who still e-mails me regularly, because his list is just awesome and motivating.

    For every other guru, I have a special e-mail address specifically for that crap that I only check every once in a while. I highly recommend doing the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    One thing to consider is that being on other marketer lists is like having a free swipe file service. You get to see what techniques others are using and what catches your attention... then you can apply those winning methods to your own business.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMAdam
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      One thing to consider is that being on other marketer lists is like having a free swipe file service. You get to see what techniques others are using and what catches your attention... then you can apply those winning methods to your own business.
      That's exactly why I stay subscribed to certain lists in different niche markets I market to or want to market. This is some of the best email marketing and copywriting education you can get!

      Some of the most successful people I know never went out and reinvented the wheel, they just copied what someone else figured out and used it on their own business or tweaked it enough to work better.

      Burger King copied McDonalds, along with other fast food joints doing the same. All are making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesLennon
    Im on a few still, I find I can still learn some new things and if you do not keep moving forward well you get left behind
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  • Profile picture of the author obin94
    Im only on the lists that still provide content, not just and two line recommendation to an affiliate link (which I am surprised by how many Guru's do that)
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    • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
      Originally Posted by obin94 View Post

      (which I am surprised by how many Guru's do that)
      Because it WORKS.

      When someone is on your list, they make most of their buying decisions within 30 days, so selling hardcore and letting those who don't buy or who already bought unsubscribe quickly is effective for a lot of e-mail marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    I am on well over 200 guru lists. Of course my email filters keep all but 6 I think out of my inbox.

    As EBR pointed out, I use the others for ideas, swipe files stuff, and just to keep informed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaston Wolf
    Only a few, never really gotten anything good from being on a list, mostly just spam and pushing affiliate offers lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    Gurus really suck. You should try to avoid becoming one at all costs. Just follow what the non-gurus do and you can avoid that nasty 'guru' label. Less money = less problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      Gurus really suck. You should try to avoid becoming one at all costs. Just follow what the non-gurus do and you can avoid that nasty 'guru' label. Less money = less problems.
      LOL I love you, man.
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    • Profile picture of the author richim1
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      Gurus really suck. You should try to avoid becoming one at all costs. Just follow what the non-gurus do and you can avoid that nasty 'guru' label. Less money = less problems.
      I got the point...
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  • Profile picture of the author krytical
    Lol, I would have to say that I'm on about 15 different lists. It does get aggravating at times but every so often, I come across an amazing product offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author tunity
    Here's what i do; If i am researching a niche, i sign up to the top five gurus email list in that niche, and then ensure i read all their emails and how they send it...

    I then use this to understand the market more and more and what actually works....

    That is how being on list should be approached. And yes, I use my personal email address.

    When i notice a list is boring me, i unsubscribe immediately...
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    • Profile picture of the author Gijsbertus
      I am on way to many lists but that's my own fault... all them nice freebies are hard to say no to...

      However, my time will come, I am sure!
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      • Profile picture of the author SamuraiKat
        Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

        One thing to consider is that being on other marketer lists is like having a free swipe file service. You get to see what techniques others are using and what catches your attention... then you can apply those winning methods to your own business.
        I love this and have actually been on the lookout for new emerging "gurus" just so that I can see how they are launching their products. I actually a very solid auto-responder sequence that I borrowed from a 2nd tier marketer.

        Originally Posted by obin94 View Post

        Im only on the lists that still provide content, not just and two line recommendation to an affiliate link (which I am surprised by how many Guru's do that)
        There are a few decent ones out there. I have seen this as a trend over the past several months. It seems that many of them are becoming more desperate to try and sell their stuff.

        Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

        Gurus really suck. You should try to avoid becoming one at all costs. Just follow what the non-gurus do and you can avoid that nasty 'guru' label. Less money = less problems.
        I don't think it is a case that they suck. I think that there is just a ton of nepotism in the marketing niche. I can think of multiple "gurus" that can easily be traced back to Dan Kennedy. The problem isn't the gurus, the problem is the lack of originality out there. I think that the current level of marketing advice can be summarized with this. "Ctrl-C Ctrl-V"
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  • Profile picture of the author cheerios2009
    I have 3 different emails. I agree with Brian on the swipe files. That is exactly what I do with these other lists. I look at their sales funnels, figure out which ones are hot and why, and the opposite, which helps me grow in my own business.

    The first thing I teach my students is to .... "shhhhh" don't tell anyone I said this... "Cancel all your subs, put them on a new email" From that point on their are no longer marketed TO, they are now "marketing".

    I think as with any business or anything in life, there are people who take advantage of other people and there are those that give as much as they "get". It's not about taking, it's more about giving and getting.

    I work hard so I appreciate the support from my subscribers. I do my best to give them support and good content as well as beneficial recommended products etc...


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  • Profile picture of the author Sharyn Sheldon
    I've started unsubscribing to the lists whose emails I never look at anyway. It's definitely helped with my focus.

    Instead, I have a few different types of lists I stay subscribed to and I label them:
    - competitors
    - people I'm an affiliate for (some of whom are competitors)
    - industry leaders (I don't call them gurus, just people I can learn from)
    - people who I might want to guest blog for

    Still a lot, but I'm starting to do a better job labeling them in gmail so I know what to look at first.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashishaffiliate
    I'm following Ewen Chia, Mack Michaels and My own list lol,,, they are all my mentors who got me started with my online business.
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  • Profile picture of the author tunity
    Gijsbertus, to be honest with you, if you accept just about everything, you won't make anything out of it. The fact that its free does not mean its valuable.

    Its only valuable if it improves your business or benefit you. Its not just valuable simply because its Free.
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  • Profile picture of the author BenoitT
    I only keep those that don't e-mail every day with affiliate links. Brendon Burchard, Eben Pegan, Frank Kern and Rich Schefren are the only one I follow.

    You can use a different e-mail for swipe file too but I don't do it for many personal reasons.
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    • Profile picture of the author nadia712
      I'm on.. probably four or five lists. All of them are Warriors, I believe. No "gurus" - though I do have a "swipe file" email address on which I'm subscribed to loads of "gurus'" lists. I check that probably once a week or so.

      But yeah, I'm subscribed to the lists I'm subscribed to because I value the recommendations of the people I follow. I sort of see them as my "eyes and ears" in each respective niche. They tell me what's new, what's good, what's bad - I just read what they've got to say, process it, and "pay" them for their service by purchasing through their links, when they tell me about something that will help me out.

      There aren't many marketers I need to hear from in order to know what I need to know, so the list of people I subscribe to is pretty short. I don't think there's a reason I'd ever need to unsubscribe from all lists. They're very helpful (in moderation) - but if you let it get out of hand (which it very easily does), it can get a little crazy.
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  • Profile picture of the author ukcarl
    I stay away from all that s**t there is enough people out there giving good info for free without trying to sell you every crappy new silver bullet course that comes out.

    The best thing I ever did was unsubscribing to this sort of BS it just keeps you stuck jumping from product to product suffering from information overload.

    I am on only a couple of lists now and I dont consider them Gurus more people with good info who are doing similar stuff to myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    None ... never have.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarlboroMonkey
    The only guy I have in my inbox anymore is Martin Crumlish. I wouldn't say he's a guru though, just WSO's that don't suck.
    Everyone else has been delegated to the spam box/unsubbed after trying to promote too many piece of crap products and thinking their name and rep would make it OK.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bigfoot1
      I'm on a few lists.

      I enjoy Alex Becker's list the most because he writes a lot of articles on IM.

      Chad Hamzeh also has a lot of value to offer that I enjoy reading.

      I'm also on some lists that I should unsubscribe from since all they do is send me products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I am only on 3 "gurus" list... and that's only because they found a way to enter into my spam folder.
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  • Profile picture of the author specialized
    I'm on a few but I eliminate them fast. The way I check to see if they are worth staying with is I try to talk to them. I simply email the guru and try to get him to talk to me as a person, not a "prospect." If he ignores me, I unsub immediately.

    It is absurd that they believe they should be able to pound me daily with email, but should I try to email them, it's kosher for them to just disregard it. F that.

    If the dynamic is (guru perspective-->) "I will email you several times a week, and I don't want any real communication, just shut up and buy things" (and this is most of the ones I've encountered so far), I'm gone.

    When I (finally) get my thing rolling, I'm going to be the exact opposite... I will be giving a toll free phone number. If people are considering buying things from me, or already have bought something, I will want them to have a clear channel of communication to me. I will want customers, list members, and potential customers of all kinds to be able to contact me easily.
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