Niche: How to become successful in life?

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Do you think this niche would work? There's some seriously nice looking keywords and I can see people wanting to fork out some cash as they see it as a long term investment. I mocked up a little web page to show you what it'd look like.



What are your thoughts?
#life #niche #successful
  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    I think this would be a really good idea, but do you think it may be a lot of work? You'd have to compete against smaller niches - for example, learning a new skill and training to become an athlete are potentially competitive niches themselves. Mind you, if you can outsource all the work, you'd be onto a winner. Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    What do you ask people when they want to jump higher?

    Why do you want to jump higher? I want to win my high school high-jump meet!

    Why do you want to win your high school high-jump meet? Because I want to go to the Olympics!

    Why do you want to go to the Olympics? I want to win a medal!

    Why do you want to win a medal? I want to be the king of the world!

    So they don't really want to jump higher; they want to be king of the world.

    Anyway, I was bored. Short answer is: too general. Be more specific.
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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey M
      Originally Posted by fin View Post

      What do you ask people when they want to jump higher?

      Why do you want to jump higher? I want to win my high school high-jump meet!

      Why do you want to win your high school high-jump meet? Because I want to go to the Olympics!

      Why do you want to go to the Olympics? I want to win a medal!

      Why do you want to win a medal? I want to be the king of the world!

      So they don't really want to jump higher; they want to be king of the world.

      Anyway, I was bored. Short answer is: too general. Be more specific.
      I don't understand how any of what you posted bar the last line was relevant. Can you explain?
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  • Profile picture of the author StunningWarrior
    I think you need to narrow the niche. Right now you are so wide that you are competing against some really high profile people like Tony Robbins, Zig Ziglar, Jack Canfield, Stephen Covey, Tim Ferris, Ken Blanchard etc. If you can beat them, then respect. But I doubt you will.

    Don't target "success" but instead target "success at ABC" or "success if you are XYZ" so that you eliminate the heavyweight competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author burukutuk
      You will success by that niche if your website got page one google. More visitor mean you success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Harvey M View Post

      Do you think this niche would work?
      It's not a niche, Harvey. This is your problem. It's a "market" - and one of the world's biggest ones.

      That means there's enormous profit available in it - and enormous, established competition.

      To make it into a niche, or to find your niche within it, you need to narrow it down dramatically.

      Originally Posted by fin View Post

      Short answer is: too general. Be more specific.
      Exactly right.

      Originally Posted by StunningWarrior View Post

      you are so wide that you are competing against some really high profile people like Tony Robbins, Zig Ziglar, Jack Canfield, Stephen Covey, Tim Ferris, Ken Blanchard etc. If you can beat them, then respect. But I doubt you will.
      I'm afraid I agree. Without finding a niche (or even a sub-niche) within this huge market, you'll be drowned.
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      • Profile picture of the author Harvey M
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        It's not a niche, Harvey. This is your problem. It's a "market" - and one of the world's biggest ones.

        That means there's enormous profit available in it - and enormous, established competition.

        To make it into a niche, or to find your niche within it, you need to narrow it down dramatically.



        Exactly right.



        I'm afraid I agree. Without finding a niche (or even a sub-niche) within this huge market, you'll be drowned.
        Okay, so we're thinking along the lines of...

        Learn how to become a successful athlete...
        Learn how to become a successful parent...
        All those types of things, right?
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        • Profile picture of the author fin
          Dude,

          Look at what I wrote above.

          "I want to be a success." In what?

          "I want to be a success in public speaking." Why?

          "I want to start a new career as a public speaker." Why?

          "I want to make lots of money and become more confident."

          So you can target people who want to become more confident in order to become a public speaker and make more money.

          If you hit on the - confidence, public speaking, and money - you are targeting a very specific person who knows what they want. They need your product and must buy it.

          Also, because your pitch is so targeted and appealing it will be very tempting to people who want to:

          Become more confident, to become a public speaker for extra money.

          Become more confident, to become a salesman for extra money.

          Etc, etc.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by Harvey M View Post

          Okay, so we're thinking along the lines of...

          Learn how to become a successful athlete...
          Learn how to become a successful parent...
          All those types of things, right?
          Yes - I'd call those things very broad niches, or markets, rather than small niches.

          True niches might be "how to run faster"/"how to jump higher", or "how to deal with children's tantrums"/"why children misbehave", or whatever ...
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          • Profile picture of the author Harvey M
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Yes - I'd call those things very broad niches, or markets, rather than small niches.

            True niches might be "how to run faster"/"how to jump higher", or "how to deal with children's tantrums"/"why children misbehave", or whatever ...
            But going with the 'success' theme, what would be a good niche, do you think?
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            • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
              Originally Posted by Harvey M View Post

              But going with the 'success' theme, what would be a good niche, do you think?
              With the type of competition in the Self help - personal development market you don't just pick a niche to sell to. There are literally hundreds of big fish in this pool. Can you get a piece of the action? Yeah.

              But to do it as a small fish you have to have some background, some history, something that separates you from the rest of the pack. You also need to have credentials of some kind. People looking for self help or success products most often buy from people they've heard of.

              The best way for a newcomer to break into this market is to promote well known affiliate products. And even then people are going to expect you, the affiliate, to have your chops in order before they'll even bother reading something by you that might lead them to the affiliate product.

              If you want to be in the "success" market you first need to have considerable success yourself.
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              • Profile picture of the author aderra
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                Both success and life seem way too broad to be competitive in terms of keywords. If you had a unique angle, you might do well if you promoted your site using methods other than search engine marketing. I would look for a niche, though, and grow from there. You could take almost any topic or product and work it into a niche that would fit the general "success in life" theme.
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      • Profile picture of the author jessiepadgal
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        It's not a niche, Harvey. This is your problem. It's a "market" - and one of the world's biggest ones.

        That means there's enormous profit available in it - and enormous, established competition.

        To make it into a niche, or to find your niche within it, you need to narrow it down dramatically.



        Exactly right.



        I'm afraid I agree. Without finding a niche (or even a sub-niche) within this huge market, you'll be drowned.
        Yes, all of this.

        Ask yourself, if there was one particular person that your website was meant for, who would that be?

        Then decide what market that person represents.

        Then get at 'em :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Daniels
    Not sure if that is a road i would want to travel down, seems like alot of work, there are easier ways for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I'm confused about your site. What action do you want people to take? Read your content or buy a book? If it's to buy a book, where on the site do you allow them to do so?
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  • Profile picture of the author KevL
    I agree with just about all the other posts here, you're going for a huge market, not a niche. You really think that people are going to "fork out some cash" via a website like the one you've mocked up, a template website with some general success related text, when they can go to Tony Robbins, Jack Canfield, The Secret, Abraham Hicks, Brian Tracy, Wayne Dyer, Bob Proctor.....? I guess you could make some money by promoting some of the success guru's products as an affiliate, but you'd have to niche it down more as others have said.

    What is it you're wanting to do? If what you want to do is to find a way to make money within the success & motivational arena because it's an area you're passionate about, then I'd say the best way to go, would be to create a much more custom & personal looking site, and try to build a profile yourself. Do a load of niche research & search term research, and pick a specific niche within the success & motivational field to focus on. Open with a video introducing yourself and your website. Create video & textual reviews of motivational programs. Build a list, send your new reviews out to the list - make some commissions while starting to build a profile. When you have a big enough list, consider starting to create some of your own products. Try getting interviews with some of the success authors, you may struggle to get an interview with Tony Robins, but hey - no harm in trying, and the bigger your list becomes, the more chance you have of convincing bigger names to give you some time, when they have new products they need to promote.

    But the above is a lot of work, if all you want to do is make some money with a template site - which is fair enough - you'll be able to find much easier niches than motivational & success related niches, which are fairly competitive.

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    sorry i am a bit pessimistic on this.. it is like diet books ..the only real use of them is to buy them to see how tastey the recipies at the back turn out when you cook them up ..

    Is there something else you are doing really well in right now ...you know ..that you are successful and turning around trying too teach others to be a success ..in the areas you are ..
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr.Daydream
    I think you are focusing on a niche that is too broad. Try to narrow it down a little bit
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    A broad market for example is the "Health" market and within that market is smaller markets like...

    Weight loss
    Bodybuilding
    Diets

    And within those markets are dozens, if not hundreds of niches. For example, in the Bodybuilding market, you could target how to get bigger biceps or how to get get rock hard abs.

    The long turn plan is to become an authority in these niches... So if anyone wants massive Biceps... You'd be the "go to" guy that everyone talks about.

    Hope this helps!

    James Scholes
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