Newbie, n00b, newbert?

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So to all the newbies out there just getting started. This is my opinion and it may not be what some people want to hear. However, I think someone needs to tell you some of this. Especially before you continue spiraling down the path of uncertainty that may have you in it's grips right now.

Now you probably know that there has to be a way to make money online.

BUT...

You are bombarded with emails, push button solution to problems, and often a lot of trash info.

CHAOS BRAIN

The first thing you will have to take control of in your quest, is your brain. Many people hear me say that I suffer from "Chaos Brain." My problem is really where I want to work on about 50 different ideas all at one time. What happens is that none of them get completed, or it takes forever to get 1 of the 50 completed. That is a bad thing... I fight to control it daily. If you are suffering from this as well... which I bet many are. You need to control it and harness all the focus you can on one goal at a time.

ANALYSIS PARALYSIS

Many people suffer from this. They feel as if they must know the entire time line of what they are going to do before they do it. They almost feel like they have to know if it will be successful before they just do it!

You will fail miserably if you don't find a way to control that. There is no "Sure Thing" but death and taxes.

Another issue of analysis paralysis is having to know everything about something before you start. Once you realize that it is virtually impossible for you to know everything before you take any action... the more successful you will be.

BUYING PRODUCTS

I don't care if it is a product I have made or someone else... You won't be successful with it. There just isn't a quick solution to your issue.

What I mean by this is simple:

If the rent is do next week forget about your Internet Marketing dreams for now. That sounds cold right? But a real business doesn't turn a profit that quickly. Some people will disagree with this. However, those people probably don't have a real business plan in place. They are probably just making it from one WSO or produt to the next. The ones that are really out there "Doing it" will agree.

Yes, you could make yourself 10k this month by doing something a little in the wrong... like many of the "fake it til they make it people." But all you are doing is putting a band-aid on a open wound. The fact is, it will not last.

There are a lot of great marketers on the Warrior Forum and other forums/blogs. But there are many that would die if Allen one day said, "I'm not having a WSO section anymore." Do you you know how many people would hit poverty level in a month in there? You have to have a plan "B,C,D,E,F."

Yes I make WSOs, and also did so with a business partner at one time as well. We were successful online, offline, but it went beyond the WSO section. The Warrior Forum is great, but it is just a teeny tiny fraction of the overall internet space you have access to.

A business partner however, is a great way to get moving. You are able to push each other and get things done. You may one day do like we did, and go different directions. But it is a great way to get started on the right path.

THERE IS ENOUGH FREE KNOWLEDGE

What you should use the Warrior Forum and other places for is knowledge. You can begin to make money online without buying a product.

The kind of products you should be looking for are things that help you scale your small success. Not so much the: "10k a month like clockwork!" offers.

Do I buy some of the WSOs, clickbank, etc... offers out there? Yeah I buy every one that I recommend to people. Most of these offers are mainly tools, themes, plugins, etc... Things that help people scale on a success they already have going for them.

When you have a small success you can scale it. You can also buy those $10k,$20k,$50k, a month products and take a look at them. While they are often exaggerated they can contain some useful information you can apply to your current success.

But don't do it when you are just starting out. You more than likely have not accumulated enough knowledge to make a valid opinion. That opinion being on whether what you just bought really has any merit for the claims being made. Also enough knowledge to actually act upon what you just read.

A good friend of mine I grew up with recently was like: "Dude, how do you make more than me?"

He has about 7 years of college in him...

What I told him was that it was a hell of a lot of trial and error over the years. That trial and error gained me knowledge. But also made it so I didn't consider myself really successful until I was in my 30s. He was already successful long before that. I just passed him by later. The only reason I did that wasn't because I was more intelligent then him. The reason was that I gained a lot of knowledge being a hermit in front of a computer for too many years. Testing, testing, testing, and trying new things.

Also working for yourself there are no limits. You can almost never become rich working for someone else. But often you can utilize what you learned working for someone else in other aspects of your own business.

Heck I owned a retail computer business that was successful. This was back around 1996. You know what happened the first year it was open though? I filed bankruptcy! I had no friggin clue what I was doing from a business stand point. I turned that all around the next year... but the first year was brutal.

I always look back on the mistakes I made during that first year though. I was about ready to jump out of my little apartment window.

So I am not going to dwell on what led me to where I am today in this post. What I am trying to say is a lot of things changed my direction, and my perspective, etc... I gained a lot of knowledge from doing various things. There is no shortcut to gaining overall knowledge. Most of it comes from trying something new!

You just have to discover if you have the drive to be successful.

If you don't know how to setup a wordpress blog, don't expect some product to tell you how. Go look in Google and YouTube, and this very forum. All you need to know how to setup wordpress, plugins, themes, is easily found for free.

Do you know how many times my support ticket system has been cluttered with, "I don't know how to install a plugin,theme,wordpress?"

You know what my answer is? Search it in Google or take a look at YouTube because there is more information there then I could possibly give you on the subject.

Some people would say... That isn't good support for your customers! Yes it is... because if they don't have the ambition to find those answers, they won't succeed anyway. I would rather refund them and call it a day. The product is a waste of their time, and my time supporting it for them. This also sounds cold... but it is the way I feel about it.

The funny thing is, I have been thanked numerous times for explaining it somewhat like this to them.

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?

Many people have different goals. Not everyone is out to make a million dollars online. Many people just want to supplement their income. If you just want to make an extra $100 - $2k a month online. Then you definitely do not need a, "How to make money online" product to accomplish that.

Many people like the security they feel in the job they currently have. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Because to be successful with many of the things we all do here, it takes multiple streams. Which in turn takes more time than many people can commit to.

So once you figure out what your goals are. You will more than likely be able to buy products more wisely. Which in the case above would definitely be things like tools to make work faster for you. You are already working a full time job. You don't really need to be sitting there testing some Make Money Online strategy and pulling your hair out in the limited time you have. What you need to be doing is focusing on something you already had a success with. Once you reach your income goal, then go play with other ideas. Eventually you may want to quit your day job... who knows?

WHATEVER YOU DO, TREAT IT AS A BUSINESS

Do you know how many "offline" products I have purchased that never mention:

  1. Get a business name. (Business license form your county clerk, or a corp, LLC, S-Corp, C-corp, etc...)
  2. Get a business checking account
  3. Get an accountant (unless you want to pull what is left of your hair out)
When you first start out... it may be tough to do this. But as soon as you are able to... "DO IT."

AGAIN FOCUS

Focus on one thing at a time. Don't opt into every mailing list in the world if it is going to take your focus away every time an email comes in. If that is what is happening (opt out). I don't care if it is my list or someone else. If you can't focus on getting one success going for you. Then do whatever it takes to stay focused.

TESTING

Here is a big issue I see a lot of times. If you have found some free info on a way to make some cash online.

Then try it the way it was explained!

Do not try and morph it, change it, or tweak it until you have made it work the way it was explained. Or until you have decided it was a bunch of trash and doesn't work.

I've seen a lot of people that try something. However they try to do some of it the way they think it will work better. Then they don't have any success with it and blame it on the method or advice they were given.

Just like that family member we all have that knows everything. If you are that type of person... you either convince yourself that you don't know everything, or forget it.

In most cases you have no prior knowledge to base your assumptions for changes to the method. Really, that is all they are is assumptions. Once you have the method in place the way it was explained... monitor what happens. You will gain knowledge from this and the changes you make the next time won't be based on assumptions.

There are a lot of methods I and many others here have seen explained that we know right off the bat will work better making a change. But that is from experience of doing the crazy testing I and many others here have done. You aren't there yet... so follow the script. The method was free, so you only have a little bit of time to lose. Possibly a heck of a lot to gain!

PARROT INFORMATION

Just like anywhere you put a bunch of people together there will be parrots. What I mean by this is people that speak of something tey really aren't sure of themselves, as it is truth and fact.

Don't believe it until you test it yourself. If you don't have time to test it don't bother agreeing with it. That just starts a chain reaction of "false fact."

We don't all want to waste our time with false facts do we?

BEWARE OF THE INSTANT CREDIBILITY

You will see many threads, blog posts, etc... That people use to set themselves up as an authority in some form or another. Beware of this, it can often be BEYOND misleading. Many times these people are just setting their selves up to suck cash in.

They try and gain a reputation as super knowledgeable and then "BAM!" here comes the WSO, Clickbank product, etc...

So watch for those people. Try and determine what track record they really have.

O.k...

I am done babbling... I babble a lot sometimes. :p
#n00b #newbert #newbie
  • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
    Nice post Don. Set a goal, focus, test, and never give up. Don't jump around. Stick to one thing. Don't expect 10K in a month. These are things people starting out need to keep in mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikefrommaine
      Shiny product syndrome is a big problem. I started being much more successful after I stopped buying products and started working.
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    • Profile picture of the author rancher2
      Thanks Don, a lot of good advice there.
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  • Profile picture of the author VanessaB
    And to think... it was just a few days ago when I called you 'a man of few words.'

    Have you been taking lessons from my kids on how to make a liar out of me?

    Agree with a lot of what you said here. Especially this part

    Search it in Google or take a look at YouTube because there is more information there then I could possibly give you on the subject.

    Some people would say... That isn't good support for your customers! Yes it is... because if they don't have the ambition to find those answers, they won't succeed anyway. I would rather refund them and call it a day. The product is a waste of their time, and my time supporting it for them. This also sounds cold... but it is the way I feel about it.
    Though I must say, that some analysis and planning is the most prudent move an entrepreneur can make. It's difficult to execute those A, B, C, D, and F plans if you didn't have them to begin with.

    I think there's a middle ground between 'proper business planning and analysis' and 'paralysis of analysis.'

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    • Profile picture of the author jackheape
      Good post. This particular bit of advice you gave is worth all of the rest of it combined;

      "Focus on one thing at a time. Don't opt into every mailing list in the world if it is going to take your focus away every time an email comes in. If that is what is happening (opt out). I don't care if it is my list or someone else. If you can't focus on getting one success going for you. Then do whatever it takes to stay focused."

      99% of the people I talk to, and this includes myself, when they start out in this business they get distracted, and off track. You can't learn it all at once. And you should only do 2 things at most at a time.

      Here is my 2 cents on the WF.

      1. Don't buy anything for the first 3 months on WF.
      2. Read the forum threads.
      3. Pick 1 thing you want to try. Here is a good example; http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...mazon-com.html
      4. learn that one thing. Do just like Don said; follow that persons program to the letter. Do it for 6 months. If it works, keep doing it. If not, find another one. Once you have found program that works, keep doing it, and find another one to learn and do.
      5. Learn Wordpress inside and out.
      6. Learn how to outsource, like on Fiverr.com

      And another side note. On WSO's, never, ever, buy one that has a monthly fee, or worst of all, requires the use of someone else's server. 90% of the guys doing WSo's are just dreaming up little tweaks and gizmos to get you, the IM, to buy them, even though it isn't really anything new. Then they don't support their product past the refund period. These WSO warriors (not all of them mind you) make their living selling you stuff you don't need. Heck, they have conferences twice a year to recruit new guys to tweak stuff that they can use to sell to their lists as an affiliate. I added it up. Over the past 2 years I have spent almost a $1000 on WSO's. As of today, I use 3, 3!, of the products I bought. The others became either inapplicable, obsolete, or just didn't work.

      Note: I don't count things such as Wordpress Themes, or videos for lead generation. Stand alone things like that you can get cheap and are worth the investment. But don't get distracted. Only buy what you need to implement the 2 projects you are working on. Don't go off on a tangent.
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      • Profile picture of the author tnimz
        Originally Posted by jackheape View Post

        And another side note. On WSO's, never, ever, buy one that has a monthly fee, or worst of all, requires the use of someone else's server. 90% of the guys doing WSo's are just dreaming up little tweaks and gizmos to get you, the IM, to buy them, even though it isn't really anything new. Then they don't support their product past the refund period...
        Had to learn that the hard way...
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      • Profile picture of the author zerofill
        Originally Posted by jackheape View Post

        Note: I don't count things such as Wordpress Themes, or videos for lead generation.
        Anything along those lines are a tool. Almost everyone needs them and can use them if they are actually working on something.

        A big problem I have is buying themes and plugins that I plan to use. When really I should be buying only the ones "I AM" going to use. Plans don't always actually come about the way you intended.

        So now I have a lot of plugins and themes that have been sitting from anywhere from a few years now to current.

        If you don't have a use for them now... or know for a fact you won't be able to get to them for a long time. Don't bother buying them. There will be a better solution out there by the time you get to using it lol.

        People will probably think I am joking here... but I have had people literally go, "I bought this thing from you 2 years ago. I am finally ready and at the stage I can make use of it." Don't waste money like that. You can find a better solution for it by now.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
          Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

          A big problem I have is buying themes and plugins that I plan to use. When really I should be buying only the ones "I AM" going to use. Plans don't always actually come about the way you intended.

          So now I have a lot of plugins and themes that have been sitting from anywhere from a few years now to current.

          If you don't have a use for them now... or know for a fact you won't be able to get to them for a long time. Don't bother buying them. There will be a better solution out there by the time you get to using it lol.
          Yup my business partner and I used to do the same thing. Now we have a rule...we only buy tools that we can can/will use RIGHT NOW to positively affect some aspect of our business. Even if it's "oh I can use this in 3 days"..no good! Has to be used RIGHT AFTER PURCHASE.
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      • Profile picture of the author jayeye
        Originally Posted by jackheape View Post

        99% of the people I talk to, and this includes myself, when they start out in this business they get distracted, and off track. You can't learn it all at once. And you should only do 2 things at most at a time.

        Here is my 2 cents on the WF.

        1. Don't buy anything for the first 3 months on WF.
        2. Read the forum threads.
        3. Pick 1 thing you want to try. Here is a good example; http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...mazon-com.html
        4. learn that one thing. Do just like Don said; follow that persons program to the letter. Do it for 6 months. If it works, keep doing it. If not, find another one. Once you have found program that works, keep doing it, and find another one to learn and do.
        5. Learn Wordpress inside and out.
        6. Learn how to outsource, like on Fiverr.com

        And another side note. On WSO's, never, ever, buy one that has a monthly fee, or worst of all, requires the use of someone else's server. 90% of the guys doing WSo's are just dreaming up little tweaks and gizmos to get you, the IM, to buy them, even though it isn't really anything new. Then they don't support their product past the refund period. These WSO warriors (not all of them mind you) make their living selling you stuff you don't need. Heck, they have conferences twice a year to recruit new guys to tweak stuff that they can use to sell to their lists as an affiliate. I added it up. Over the past 2 years I have spent almost a $1000 on WSO's. As of today, I use 3, 3!, of the products I bought. The others became either inapplicable, obsolete, or just didn't work.

        Thanks for the insight. Alas, it's too late about the buying, but I must say
        I have been very selective and feel that I've received some value.
        CHAOS BRAIN, unfortunately, is a frequent visitor!

        Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    Great post Don!

    Totally agree with everything, especially the 'enough free info' part.

    If people are really going to buy products, they might as well just purchase some coaching.
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  • Profile picture of the author mnonline
    if you want to succeed, you must be willing to learn and put it into action.
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  • Profile picture of the author kreative
    Fits in with my new mantra.... Make a goal, make a plan. Work the plan to hit the goal.

    I need to work on the ... Too mmay goals at once thing... But great advice!

    Diane
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  • Profile picture of the author honestbizman
    Thanks, Don! Very good post. I have experienced all those conditions (Analysis Paralysis, etc.) at one time or another and they always slow you down. And FOCUS...man, how important that is. "Shiny Object" syndrome is a big enemy against focus.

    Thanks for writing such a good post. I hope a lot of people read it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I'm so glad i'm not a noob... would be wandering in the desert for 40 years straight.
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  • Profile picture of the author voodo
    Awesome post Don!

    I so agree with everything, Really great stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author keithavery
    Great post Don, very insightful and to the point.
    Thanks for Babbling.
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  • Profile picture of the author robkat
    Excellent advice Don. I wish I had read this 4.5 years ago! I'm trying to focus on one area this year (Amazon) but get distracted by new shiny Amazon objects.

    I know this about myself - I can focus really well but I excel at distractability. I'm working on it!

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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      Originally Posted by robkat View Post

      Excellent advice Don. I wish I had read this 4.5 years ago! I'm trying to focus on one area this year (Amazon) but get distracted by new shiny Amazon objects.

      I know this about myself - I can focus really well but I excel at distractability. I'm working on it!

      Kathy

      Like I was saying above... don't worry I suffer from being distracted to. Just have to get it under control. A lot more challenging than you would think lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author drewcpappas
    Thanks for posting this. Very good information.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesbrands
    This is a really great post, and so very true.

    I spent the first 3 months all over the place, one idea to another, start something never finish it.

    Its only now that i've realized that concentrating on one thing at a time and seeing it through and learning as much as possible from it, is the key to building an online business
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  • Profile picture of the author JDIZM
    This was definitely a great read. Thanks for clearing a lot of stuff up Don.

    I too battle with "chaos brain" on a daily basis hah.
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  • Profile picture of the author jredmond
    Don,
    Great post! Rant, babble or whatever you want to call it......good stuff.
    Thanks, Jim R
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      I have to say, without question, that is well up there as one of the most sensible, well thought out and thoroughly excellent posts that I have ever read on this forum or anywhere else for that matter.

      Really good stuff Don, well done.
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  • Profile picture of the author smuggecko
    Certainly some great tip here mate. I certainly was at war with my own mind chaos, but getting your ideas in place was key. I focus on 3 goals a day. If I fail to complete any of the three goals, it gets carried over to the next day. Works wonders
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  • Profile picture of the author JeremiahSay
    What a great post.. All the points make relevant sense! Personally I like the THERE IS ENOUGH FREE KNOWLEDGE point..

    Google, youtube and this forum alone is filled with TONS and TONS of information.. all you have to do is type in a few keywords and hit search.. Some of the info products you bought (opps.. It's most of them) at $7 - $97 can most be found in Google, Youtube and in WF alone

    Related to PARROT INFORMATION point as well..
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Coxill
    Hi Don,

    Totally agree with you on the free information part. There is so much free stuff available even just here on the WF. However, one of my best investments so far was to become a War Room member, as there are some golden nuggets in there. But without that, I would still have had a ridiculous amount of amazing free advice here. I began my internet career through learning something for free here on the WF so I can definitely vouch for your free information views

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  • Profile picture of the author kschieng
    This is certainly a great post Don. Some important points have been pointed out here.

    Newcomers often are "information-overloaded" due to the free information available around the internet these days. I agree that the most crucial thing it is to set a realistic goal, plan a strategy, take action and stick to one idea and work hard for it until we succeed with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author peanutspro
    Don,

    You are right on the money. I bought product after product and had some success but never really completely followed the methods 100%. It wasn't until I actually focused on one method and followed all of the instructions to the letter that I had my epiphany and started making a lot of money with a site that had previously made none.

    I have since tweaked that method by adding to it, but now I have a plan I have been applying to each of my 33 sites one at a time with success. Once I stopped trying to shortcut every method and decided to get down to work it all came together.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    Haven't bought a WSO in almost a year and have made actual money since then...hmmm...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Russen
    Hi Donald,

    I do not often visit here as you can see by my posts.

    I just had to say that your post is probably the best forum post I have read in a longtime.

    The only thing I have bought on the WF is Alex's IMM coaching program and one of the things he and Rich Shefern teaches is strategic thinking + being focused.

    Anyway thanks - just my 2 cents...
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  • Profile picture of the author aaallday2010
    I totally agree with what you said.

    I often find myself with a dozen things to do, but can't get started. Or if I do get started, I get sidetracked and start jumping from one task to another. As a result, something I should have finished 2 weeks ago, is only half done today because of my lack of control and concentration.

    Hopefully, that will all change now.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Exel
    Very nice post. I recognize myself from some time ago in almost every of your points.

    I believe that it is almost impossible to get out of the cycle until you figure it out
    yourself. Everyone knows that what they are doing is bad is not taking them anywhere,
    but it's not easy to get out of it. In my opinion, it is the unavoidable step on the road to success.
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  • Profile picture of the author lingmag
    I've been wanting to start a thread called "Newbie Rape Prevention," but obviously I don't have enough posts. A big part of the problem is how IM itself is "marketed." It's not marketed as a "field" or a "profession" that requires time and investment before achieving profitabiliy--like, say, medicine or law. If there was a way, IM should have a warning label that says: WARNING: Do not engage in IM if you are desparate for cash and don't have time for at least a one-year learning curve. Otherwise, you will make yourself vulnerable to con-artists and heartache that is hazardous to your health.

    As an aside, something I find frustrating on the forum is when newbies express frustration or discouragement, they get bashed because they "fell for the hype" or they expected too much from a product. Yes, there's free information out there; but it's scattered and some people don't even know what to look for. BTW: aren't some of you "non-newbies" here marketing some of the very "shiny objects" you tell newbies not to chase?

    Hmmmmmm.......
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    • Profile picture of the author Carlsbadd
      Originally Posted by lingmag View Post

      I've been wanting to start a thread called "Newbie Rape Prevention," but obviously I don't have enough posts. A big part of the problem is how IM itself is "marketed." It's not marketed as a "field" or a "profession" that requires time and investment before achieving profitabiliy--like, say, medicine or law. If there was a way, IM should have a warning label that says: WARNING: Do not engage in IM if you are desparate for cash and don't have time for at least a one-year learning curve. Otherwise, you will make yourself vulnerable to con-artists and heartache that is hazardous to your health.

      As an aside, something I find frustrating on the forum is when newbies express frustration or discouragement, they get bashed because they "fell for the hype" or they expected too much from a product. Yes, there's free information out there; but it's scattered and some people don't even know what to look for. BTW: aren't some of you "non-newbies" here marketing some of the very "shiny objects" you tell newbies not to chase?

      Hmmmmmm.......
      Great post, I feel the same way even after being in the game for a while. I suggest taking a few freebies , which are available here and everywhere and taking action.
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  • Profile picture of the author Leiif
    Thanks Don,

    Appreciate the effort put into the post and the insights. Another reason to stay on your list. My email is getting quieter as I unsubscribe and work at whittling down the distractions.

    Best,
    Leiif
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  • Profile picture of the author T Dorsey
    Thanks for the info. I am just starting out and hope to use your advice wisely.
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  • Profile picture of the author MyNameIsAlex
    This post is full of info that is useful to me. Thank you very much for taking the time to type this all out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carlsbadd
    This is kinda freaky but I did a video about this after you came out with the whole "chaos brain " theory this is almost a year old!
    I did this video for a friend and of course never completed the follow up due to brain complications.

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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      Originally Posted by Carlsbadd View Post

      This is kinda freaky but I did a video about this after you came out with the whole "chaos brain " theory this is almost a year old!
      I did this video for a friend and of course never completed the follow up due to brain complications.
      WOW... forgot all about writing that Cool stuff

      EDIT: Haha... Yeah **** was in there! lol... Yeah we made a killin off that damn thing from a 2 page blog roflmao. Was still #1 for all the **** berry 60 minutes keywords. Just everyone realizes now that if you want it go to Swanson vitamins or something lol. Crazy money from that thing. Made me laugh tonight remembering that. Thanks...
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      • Profile picture of the author Carlsbadd
        Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

        WOW... forgot all about writing that Cool stuff

        EDIT: Haha... Yeah **** was in there! lol... Yeah we made a killin off that damn thing from a 2 page blog roflmao. Was still #1 for all the **** berry 60 minutes keywords. Just everyone realizes now that if you want it go to Swanson vitamins or something lol. Crazy money from that thing. Made me laugh tonight remembering that. Thanks...
        Thanks!! It seems really silly but it really was a turning point for me and hopefully it can be for someone else.

        At some point you have to take a break from learning at start doing!

        I am still trying to break the habit but am getting better, I am not sure I will ever be cured of "chaos brain" but will let you know if I find a cure.
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        • Profile picture of the author zerofill
          Originally Posted by Carlsbadd View Post

          I am not sure I will ever be cured of "chaos brain" but will let you know if I find a cure.
          Please do... we can market that and retire.
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  • Profile picture of the author GISA
    Good advice, but people react differently, because they think that IM is a one night succes, and all the product out there will claim "How to earn as they thing million dollars in one night without any work," will always grab the attention. Because people think that IM is easy money without any work.

    But anyway thanks for your post
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