by JakeR
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I've recently posted new articles to GoArticles and their really hasn't been any views of my article. Is GoArticles not the place to be anymore? Is there a better place? I'm not particularly fond on Ezine articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    Both of them are on pretty rough times. Their rankings were slapped and haven't been recovered since.

    Google decided they were not a significant value add. A lot of article directories have even been deindexed completely.
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    • Profile picture of the author JakeR
      Originally Posted by Cataclysm1987 View Post

      Both of them are on pretty rough times. Their rankings were slapped and haven't been recovered since.

      Google decided they were not a significant value add. A lot of article directories have even been deindexed completely.
      Thanks for the feedback. So where do we go if we are doing article marketing? I had been told the ezine and goarticles were the top two places for free article directory sites. Has a contender taken their place?
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      • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
        Originally Posted by JakeR View Post

        Thanks for the feedback. So where do we go if we are doing article marketing? I had been told the ezine and goarticles were the top two places for free article directory sites. Has a contender taken their place?
        No, you failed to see my point.

        Article directories themselves are the things taking a hit, not one directory or another. There are videos of Matt Cutts basically saying we don't like article marketing period.

        You have to be careful here.

        My recommendation is to replace article marketing with guest blog posting at authority sites, then getting those guest blog posts to rank, bringing you traffic through the other person's site.
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        • Profile picture of the author aizaku
          Originally Posted by Cataclysm1987 View Post

          No, you failed to see my point.

          Article directories themselves are the things taking a hit, not one directory or another. There are videos of Matt Cutts basically saying we don't like article marketing period.

          You have to be careful here.

          My recommendation is to replace article marketing with guest blog posting at authority sites, then getting those guest blog posts to rank, bringing you traffic through the other person's site.
          I agree 100% turn your unique articles in to guest posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    Goarticles often accepts content that is auto-spun, and that surely doesn't make it look good in eyes of big G
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    Originally Posted by JakeR View Post

    I've recently posted new articles to GoArticles and their really hasn't been any views of my article. Is GoArticles not the place to be anymore? Is there a better place? I'm not particularly fond on Ezine articles.
    GoArticles, along with many article directories, has over a long period of time gradually been devalued in SEO terms.

    I don't know what kind of views you're expecting, but bear in mind that the only reason anyone should really be submitting to directories is to increase exposure of their articles to potential publishers, not to search-engine users and so on. But yes, GoArticles is hardly the best place out there for this.

    EzineArticles, on the other hand, is among the best of the generic directories for this purpose. So I'm uncertain of why you're so eager to write it off.
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  • Profile picture of the author smuggecko
    Google is clamping down very hard on article dirs. Way too much global spam that is devaluing google searches.
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Jake, I used to see some great results with GoArticles, but it appears as if they're never going to recover from Panda. Unfortunately, their instant-approve feature leads to alot of garbage on the site - which means that they'll probably never get an love from Google again.

    As far as I know, EZA is still the top article directory. Why not give them a try, but use them for what they are - a syndication resource. If you pin all of your hopes on any article directory now, you're going to be disappointed.

    Instead of focusing solely on the article directories, you'd be far better off looking for sites in your niche that accept guest posts - and for opportunities that allow you to get your articles syndicated. By focusing on the authority sites in your niche, you're focusing on highly-target traffic. Plus, the backlink you get from those sites is going to be light years ahead of the links you're getting from the article directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dann Vicker
    The future of article marketing is now with guest posting, and many are already having a field day with this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
      Originally Posted by Dann Vicker View Post

      The future of article marketing is now with guest posting, and many are already having a field day with this.
      Yep.

      Been this way for a while now.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Dann Vicker View Post

      The future of article marketing is now with guest posting, and many are already having a field day with this.
      yes agree with you. +1

      article syndication and also guest posting since 2010 is quadrupling our traffic and we have not even scratched the surface of high authorative figures and resources in our niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    probably your topic is not that popular in goarticle site itself, so no internal traffic from goarticle website. But if you optimize your article it'll rank high in google or other search engine, then you'll get more traffic. My experience says that even after panda update, your article in article directories can still rank high with proper backlinking method.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Article marketing had its time. Yes, there is still some value in using it as a part of your arsenal but your always better putting the content on your own site.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
      Originally Posted by Marhelper View Post

      Article marketing had its time. Yes, there is still some value in using it as a part of your arsenal but your always better putting the content on your own site.
      Article marketing is very much alive and well... It's the idea that you can submit your articles to a few directories and rank highly in Google that's past its prime.

      Yes, you should always be publishing great stuff on your own site. Not only will your visitors appreciate it, but the search engines will, too. However, if you never branch out, and publish stuff away from your own site, your business is never going to be able to grow the way you want to. You need other websites - like article directories (when used for their intended purpose - as a syndication resource), guest blog opportunities, etc. - to show off your expertise and your high-quality content. That way, you're attracting new traffic, encouraging people to link to you - and you're doing it all without depending 100% on Google (which can be a very dangerous business decision).
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      • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
        Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett View Post

        Article marketing is very much alive and well... It's the idea that you can submit your articles to a few directories and rank highly in Google that's past its prime.

        Yes, you should always be publishing great stuff on your own site. Not only will your visitors appreciate it, but the search engines will, too. However, if you never branch out, and publish stuff away from your own site, your business is never going to be able to grow the way you want to. You need other websites - like article directories (when used for their intended purpose - as a syndication resource), guest blog opportunities, etc. - to show off your expertise and your high-quality content. That way, you're attracting new traffic, encouraging people to link to you - and you're doing it all without depending 100% on Google (which can be a very dangerous business decision).

        That is why I said it should be PART of your arsenal.
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  • That's why the article directories who are not supporting only original contents are getting kicked out from Google search results. And also EzineArticles who requires unique articles is getting nowhere.

    I remember in the past year, before the Google Panda update, I sent a lot of PLR articles to GoArticles and others, excluding just EzineArticles who is very restrictive on approval for an italian writer. Well, I got hundreds of views for each article, and they were pretty basic.

    But I think article marketing is going to hell with recent updates... and unless a person knows how to search straight on article directories, they will not find anything or just a few results on the Big G. That's sad but it is how things are working.

    So if you have a quality article, it's ten time valuable if you use it for guest blogging on important blogs in your same niche.

    Thanks and see you soon,
    Alessandro
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    • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
      Originally Posted by Alessandro Zamboni View Post

      That's why the article directories who are not supporting only original contents are getting kicked out from Google search results. And also EzineArticles who requires unique articles is getting nowhere.
      First, we need to make the distinction between original and unique content.

      Original content refers to the underlying substance/idea/information/gist
      of the article.


      Unique content refers to the composition/presentation of the text.

      An article can quite easily be unique without a trace of originality. An article with originality will, at least on first publication, be pretty unique.

      EzineArticles never required unique articles.

      But if we ask ourselves which directory was in the minority group by asking for unique or previously unpublished content when others didn't, Buzzle is the answer we are looking for.

      Buzzle, unfortunately (for itself and its users), seems to have been subject to the same devaluation of ranking authority as many of the other directories.

      But let us not forget that the Panda update didn't target article directories specifically. It targeted sites whose contents were thin and of little value. This encompassed many sites that accept user-submitted content beyond article directories - many of which might come under the umbrella term of "web 2.0 sites", whatever that really means - and an awful lot of those those weren't big on non-unique content, if they published it at all.

      And still they were kicked to the ground.

      Besides anything, many people have had such a misguided impression of what article directories like EZA are for (repositories of content for republication - which necessarily implies that all content will/should eventually be non-unique) that they've only ever submitted unique, albeit often badly spun/rewritten articles to them anyway.

      Unique and/or original or not, masses of thin, low quality content and poop backlinks does nobody any favours.
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  • Profile picture of the author trevord92
    Google are still indexing GoArticles, etc. OK with less importance than a few years ago but they're still doing something with them.

    I just did a search for:

    site:goarticles.com

    and Google reported "About 6,400,000 results" which is about a million more than they're reporting for this forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
      Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

      EzineArticles never required unique articles.

      But if we ask ourselves which directory was in the minority group by asking for unique or previously unpublished content when others didn't, Buzzle is the answer we are looking for.

      Buzzle, unfortunately (for itself and its users), seems to have been subject to the same devaluation of ranking authority as many of the other directories.
      Exactly... as far as the "big dog" article directories go, none of them require content that's never been published anywhere else.

      In addition to Panda, Buzzle also seems to be drowning because it stopped allowing any kind of links in its content, including the resource box! That alone led many authors to go elsewhere.

      Originally Posted by trevord92 View Post

      Google are still indexing GoArticles, etc. OK with less importance than a few years ago but they're still doing something with them.

      I just did a search for:

      site:goarticles.com

      and Google reported "About 6,400,000 results" which is about a million more than they're reporting for this forum.
      You're right... GoArticles hasn't been deindexed. However, your articles are wasted if they're just sitting there. If no one comes by to view them (and syndicate them, if they're good), they're not doing you a darn bit of good.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    I wasn't aware that goarticles was ever alive? Always seemed pretty dead to me in comparison to others.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I wasn't aware that goarticles was ever alive? Always seemed pretty dead to me in comparison to others.
      LOL...I often felt the same way. After posting an article and looking at the view stats, I'd be like...why am I doing this again?
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  • Profile picture of the author trevord92
    I don't get much direct traffic from Goarticles but if Google index it then there'll be a little bit of link juice available. Plus their content gets scraped by programs like WP Robot - not exactly brilliant syndication and not everyone leaves the resource box links in but some will.

    When I remember to do it, it's probably worth the minute or so it takes to copy and paste the article into them.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by JakeR View Post

    I've recently posted new articles to GoArticles and their really hasn't been any views of my article. Is GoArticles not the place to be anymore? Is there a better place? I'm not particularly fond on Ezine articles.
    You can as well say all article directories is DEAD.
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  • Profile picture of the author Expressarticles
    Ezine Articles is probably the best directory to submit to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    Now that a bunch of them have been G slapped, there's not too much point. After all, 90 percent of the traffic you got from the articles was from a Google search, not an active EzineArticles.com or Goarticles.com member looking to view your content.
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    • Profile picture of the author JeremiahSay
      Originally Posted by Cataclysm1987 View Post

      Now that a bunch of them have been G slapped, there's not too much point. After all, 90 percent of the traffic you got from the articles was from a Google search, not an active EzineArticles.com or Goarticles.com member looking to view your content.
      Totally agree.. That being the case, you should submit your unique article to your own website or blog first (talking about article marketing), the reason why you wanna do this is to have your unique article (which either cost money or your precious time) to be indexed by google FIRST instead of giving away the credit to other article-directories..

      By having your unique article in your blog/website indexed by google first, you'll have 2 benefits (or even more) - killing 2 birds w 1 stone:

      1) Long-tail keyword (most prolly from your title) .. People search for your keyword from google and will enter your website straight away (instead of going to EZA or other article directories first).. you will have 100% of the visitors to your website.

      What's 20% CTR from EZA sig box when you can get 100% visitors from google straight?

      2) Posting unique content to your website is always a good thing - Google LOVES it.. you'll get higher ranking, higher page-rank etc.. What more can I say?

      I've been in this forum for only 3 months now, and have learned a lot from Alexa Smith regarding unique content, article directories, SEO panda etc etc... I'm giving credit to her for being able to post this post..

      God bless you,
      Jeremiah

      P.S. Hope people will learn and gain smthing here
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        Killing 2 birds with one stone please explain
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          Killing 2 birds with one stone please explain
          It means, more or less, "achieving two desired outcomes from one action".
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  • Profile picture of the author mado
    EzineArticles is the best bro. Good rank and big traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author madzstar
    yeah dats true. goarticles actually used to be quite good now they jus like dead. articlebase a very good one though
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Coxill
    I agree with fun to write and iamnameless, goarticles has never been that great for getting views. I've always preferred Ezine. However, it's not worth it anymore, it has been mentioned it's all about blogging and creating guest posts these days.

    However, one thing I've learned is to thoroughly check blogs to see if my content and their viewers are going to mix well, and if the blog is decent enough. A lot of people see the direction they need to go in i.e. guest posting, and approach every blog in their niche. This isn't a smart move. You want to approach blogs in your niche that offer value, and have good clean content. It's just taking it seriously and being professional.

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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Old style article marketing is still needed as Google seems to need a certain ratio of inferior links to high authority links to balance everything out. If you want to count on Google.

    Article syndication (Nicole and Alexa are good sources to refer to on this) can help you a lot with SEO but it's main thing is leaching traffic. You will find it hard to get syndicated in the IM field unless you can offer ROI to the owner (yes their traffic is an investment).

    Guest blogging can also be frowned upon by Google. There are ways around that little ordeal but for my syndication needs I prefer writing content that list owners want to send to their list in the form of a newsletter.

    I do guest blog for a couple of IM people every week and I trade those guest post for a trip to my squeeze page as the IMers do not want my post to appear top be coming from anyone besides themselves (guess that makes me a ghost blogger lol)
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    In the past Goarticles used to deliver to me a ton of clicks on a daily basis. But now, i only get about 1 article view, and it usually happens about 30 minutes after i've uploaded my article. When i take a look at the other articles i've uploaded the week before... they ALL say only 1 page view. I dont know what the deal is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Usmile
    Originally Posted by JakeR View Post

    I've recently posted new articles to GoArticles and their really hasn't been any views of my article. Is GoArticles not the place to be anymore? Is there a better place? I'm not particularly fond on Ezine articles.
    GoArticles is among writers favorite article directory site along with Ezine. It is also a busy site in terms of traffic making it a good place for article writers who want exposure but that was before. But now, I found Ezine a good place. I suggest you to settle for something new.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    People... If you are using article directories in the hopes of having your article read and generate traffic that way you are late to the party...

    What these article directories are good for is to have your content Syndicated.

    Bloggers and other media sources go to these directories looking for good content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Abeyratne
    Guest blogging is in many ways a better bet than traditional article marketing, you get the benefit of building a relationship with someone with a high traffic web property while also getting credibility, backlinks, and traffic.

    Pretty leveraged form of marketing and SEO!
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  • Profile picture of the author Miraclem
    I never use that site to be honest, I just do quick google searches and everything I need comes up!
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  • Profile picture of the author bluebrain
    Squidoo and Hubpages are probably a better option to post your articles if you wanna see hits, they have lots of readers.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamluke1
    go article is good website but i prefer ezinarticle is best website having a big rang and traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronnyroll
      I found go article's articles are indexing; further syndication depends upon the quality of ideas. May be link juice is less, but is there. You can book mark your articles, automatically it would work. Fundaments of SEO does not suggest to neglect article marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author massiveray
    In my opinion article marketing is pretty much dead, you still ge the link juice from submitting articles but in a world where page rank is losing importance in SEO terms then what real use is that link juice?

    I find that in terms of ranking a site a good variety of new media links is the most effective way to go. Press releases, slide shows, video submission sites, podcast submissions etc I find a link from YouTube (although no follow) is still more effective than some crap article directory link.

    I still submit articles to Ezine though, to get those few extra views from referrals.
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  • Profile picture of the author grover69
    Looking through my stats for various websites, I am still generating decent traffic from EzineArticles but GoArticles has all but disappeared. Truth be told, I forgot about them until I saw this post.
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  • Profile picture of the author maximum
    For now article directories don't seem to work as well as before due to all these recent updates from big G. But I have noticed squidoo is beginning to rank well for some highly competitive keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beverley Boorer
    Might depend on the topic. I posted an article about relationships on goarticles that got quite a lot of traffic, while another one in the internet marketing niche got almost nothing
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Was ever GoArticles ever alive? Always seemed like a spam-filled directory like all of the rest!

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