Would a barter service website work?

WhiteDove

14 years ago

I think that could be a very good thing. Helping each other out is always great!

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fin

14 years ago

I don't like it. I think it's a good idea, but I just don't like the fact that your trying to go for the cheapest price possible.

Something tells me the work will be worse.

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DianaHeuser

14 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

I don't like it. I think it's a good idea, but I just don't like the fact that your trying to go for the cheapest price possible.

Something tells me the work will be worse.

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Hi Fin,

It's not about going for the cheapest price. It's more about people who are starting out who just do not have the resources to get certain things done so it hampers their ability to get their business going.

I understand that there will always be the cheapskates who try and rip off the system, and I am not sure how you would handle that.

Di

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Alexa Smith

Banned 14 years ago

I think they can work (and I think there've been some, in the past, that have worked well?), but there are a couple of specific difficulties with them, I believe.

A lot of legal/accounting advice is needed, because in most countries the tax authorities are very interested in these - not because they're generally designed as a way of avoiding income tax, but because the way they operate does rather lend itself to that? If you barter your services rather than being paid for them with declarable income, you're paying less tax than you would otherwise, after all?

I believe that when such sites acquire enough of a critical mass to "become relevant/noticed", various kinds of tax investigations tend to follow, and it would therefore be really critical to be professionally advised before starting, I think.

From the perspective of tax authorities, there's a "point of principle" involved with such businesses, and they do have a reputation for causing problems, if they can.

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DianaHeuser

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I believe that when such sites acquire enough of a critical mass to "become relevant/noticed", various kinds of tax investigations tend to follow, and it would therefore be really critical to be professionally advised before starting, I think.

From the perspective of tax authorities, there's a "point of principle" involved with such businesses, and they do have a reputation for causing problems, if they can.

Thanks Alexa,

I never even thought of that aspect of it. Interesting challenge

Di

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mal129

14 years ago

JVs and adswaps are like barter. There's no money exchanged and both parties benefit. But for technical services like programming, design or troubleshooting I think you might have something there.

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Lori Kelly

14 years ago

I like the idea too. A few years ago, I bought tradingtrades.com - haven't done anything with it but my original idea was to create a market place where people could post their trades and barter their services.

A homeowner with experience as an electrician looking for a plumber - a plumber looking for an electrician.

Alexa's statement about the taxing authorities is an issue but I don't believe it would be your responsibility as a site owner.

Here's an interesting article relating to a similar subject.
Guest Post: Americans Will Need

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DianaHeuser 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lori Kelly

Here's an interesting article relating to a similar subject.
Guest Post: Americans Will Need

Thanks Lori,

That was interesting. If I started this site I would be probably be called a revoluntionary

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tryinhere

14 years ago

Originally Posted by DianaHeuser

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It's more about people who are starting out who just do not have the resources to get certain things done so it hampers their ability to get their business going.

If people are starting out and have no money to spend then how will the site make money ? ads maybe

still these guys seem to do alright http://www.bartercard.com/ these were / are aussie and seem to be looking for international stuff now so maybe dip into that pond

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A homeowner with experience as an electrician looking for a plumber - a plumber looking for an electrician.

A home owner with experience as an elec would not have the proper paperwork to conduct any electrical work in a legal sense, that trade would leave you open to not getting any insurance if an electrical fault was to burn you house down because he / she was un qualified.

But if they were a registered sparky / plumber then they would already know each other through jobs and contacts and they would not need to look that up on the web.

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Lori Kelly

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tryinhere

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A home owner with experience as an elec would not have the proper paperwork to conduct any electrical work in a legal sense, that trade would leave you open to not getting any insurance if an electrical fault was to burn you house down because he / she was un qualified.

But if they were a registered sparky / plumber then they would already know each other through jobs and contacts and they would not need to look that up on the web.

A licensed electrician is licensed to perform electrical work. They are usually bonded/insured as well. If permits were needed (and they're not here in Texas), then it would be the homeowner's responsibility to get the necessary permits.

If my neighbor, who is a licensed plumber, wants a deck built, there's a good chance he doesn't know a carpenter to build his deck.

If my neighbor, who is an interior designer, wants her backyard landscaped and willing to barter her interior design services, she might not know a landscaper and would turn to the internet to find one.

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tryinhere 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lori Kelly

A licensed electrician is licensed to perform electrical work. .

Yes a licenced elec would be fine, my error as i read A homeowner with experience as an electrician looking for a plumber and i took that as being an average joe home owner who knew a bit of wiring doing the work ?

Burning to many candles my end and pushing work, sorry for the mix up.
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rosetrees

14 years ago

There's a system that's been in operation in the UK for many years called LETS - Local Exchange Trading System LETS Link UK: Homepage

There was a local branch in Guildford, where I used to live. I never used it as I had little to offer. When I moved to where I am now I looked into it again and there wasn't a local branch. There might be now.

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DianaHeuser

14 years ago

Thanks Pete and Rose.

I took a look at those sites. I liked the idea of the barter card. You guys have given something to think about

Di

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flowbee77

14 years ago

Originally Posted by DianaHeuser

I was wondering if setting up a website and or group which focuses on people bartering their services would work.

What do you think?

Di

Are you referring to something like this?

NeighborGoods - NeighborGoods

Where the users share tools locally.

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gjabiz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by DianaHeuser

I was wondering if setting up a website and or group which focuses on people bartering their services would work.

What do you think?

Di

Diana, suggest you operate it as an EXCHANGE.

Since there are already big and established B 2 B sites, I think what would work would be more service for service and you'd find enough people here at WF to make it profitable.

How would the profits for you come in? Fees to register?

I like it. Just make sure you have a good grasp of the TIME commitment it will take.

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DianaHeuser

14 years ago

Thanks Gordon,

It's a good idea on the exchange bit.

I am still thinking about how you would monetise it and yet still provide real value for the people.

Di

Originally Posted by gjabiz

Diana, suggest you operate it as an EXCHANGE.

Since there are already big and established B 2 B sites, I think what would work would be more service for service and you'd find enough people here at WF to make it profitable.

How would the profits for you come in? Fees to register?

I like it. Just make sure you have a good grasp of the TIME commitment it will take.

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Marx Vergel Melencio

14 years ago

Hi Diana,

I believe that's a profitable idea. Software programmers planning to develop products need graphics design, content writing and SEO services. Content writers need software programmers, Web developers and graphics designers to set up their sites and products, then they need SEOers to drive more traffic to their sites. SEOers need software programmers, graphics designers, Web developers and content writers to reach wider audiences and promote their SEO services, content and products. That's also a good portal for JVs and other deals. Best of luck!

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DianaHeuser

14 years ago

Marx,

That's exactly the kind of thing I had in mind.

Di

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quickcontent

14 years ago

@Diana - Your idea certainly sounds good and could definitely work. Like you expressed in one of your replies, there are people who are just starting out and would be tight on money. Barter would be a great option they'd be ready to try as its a win-win-win.

Win # 1. You get done what you want
Win # 2. The other guy gets what he wants
Win # 3. You also get a potential customer, or at least the guy might refer your services to someone else.

Originally Posted by DianaHeuser

I was wondering if setting up a website and or group which focuses on people bartering their services would work.

What do you think?

Di

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