Is Mac more secure than a PC?

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How many of your IMers use iMac or MacBooks as your primary PC. Is it more secure?

Have you ever been hacked while using a Mac or heard some Mac user being hacked?

With the recent hacking of domains and website of our fellow warrior - InDigitalWorks.com, I am looking at all avenues where I can increase my security.

I already follow some of the weirdest security measures one can think of but I am still paranoid because I have been hacked before and I don't want to be in such a situation again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    Generally speaking, yes.

    There are much fewer viruses for Mac.

    However, I don't download anything fishy and have some basic antivirus on this PC and have never been hacked through it.
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  • Profile picture of the author johndoejohndoe
    Security on a pc and a web hosting server are two different animals.

    I've never heard of a recent Mac operating system have a virus. I believe this is because they run on a Unix kernal like Linux, they are more secure because they don't run "exe" files or executables.

    Since I've installed AVG about 5 or so years ago, I haven't had a virus on my PCs.

    You have to realize that a website is out in the open and there are countless possibilities and vulnerabilities a content management system can have. This is mostly because it has to send and receive data through various means. A programming language like PHP can leave loopholes open for people who know what they're doing. Most of the time people don't notice that someone is fishing around and hitting a website countless times for its vulnerabilities until it's too late. Google makes finding sites with older versions and containing the loopholes much easier too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    I had a couple of virus issues with my PC but never since going MAC, I have heard the same from others.
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    • Profile picture of the author jmartinez
      I've been using both for years and never had a virus on a mac. I've had several on my pc. With the popularity of the iPhone and iPad things may change at some point, but for now the mac OS is pretty solid.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Casavant
      Well actually Macs are easier to hack into and Safari itself is easier to exploit for malware purposes. The thing is that with a little more effort you can exploit IE and affect a lot more people, so it is more worthwhile to go after PCs and Internet Explorer.... for the time being. Macs are not all high and mighty like people think.

      "AVAST Software CTO Ondrej Vlcek told Softpedia, "I think we will be seeing more and more attacks towards Mac."

      Vlcek added: "Of course, it's still a minor platform in terms of market share, currently estimated to be between 6% and 7%, compared to something like 92% or 93% for Windows." <-- but more and more people switch to Mac every day. I'll stick with my PC and just know how to cover my butt.


      But like johndoe said, hacking into a webhosting server or exploiting wordpress holes is something totally different.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopBackBuilder
    As far as I know or atleast last time I checked, MAC is FAR more secure than a PC.
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  • Profile picture of the author dallasstar
    A little unrelated, but anyone has a solution for laptop getting slow after windows update?
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  • Profile picture of the author atrbiz
    It's all explained here: Online Safety: Who Says Macs Don&rsquo;t Get Viruses? - How-To Geek

    It all comes down to the # of Windows based computers vs MACs...we'll obviously you've got way more Windows based PCs out in the market vs MACs.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
    Well Windows is top dog so of course people focus more on attacking them. Plus Windows tries to be backwards compatibility and tries to work for anything, which allows more potential attacks and of course more potential of crashing. If your going to use Windows make sure you have an anti virus and make sure you keep up to date with Windows updates.

    For Windows I could create a virus in 10 minutes and send it off, they have "kiddie" tools out there to auto generate virus/malware etc. All you have to do is create it, make it an attachment and send it via email to an unsuspected person. They open it up, it reads your contact list, blasts their contact list and now it starts to spread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Farish
    Originally Posted by Deepak Media View Post

    How many of your IMers use iMac or MacBooks as your primary PC. Is it more secure?

    Have you ever been hacked while using a Mac or heard some Mac user being hacked?

    With the recent hacking of domains and website of our fellow warrior - InDigitalWorks.com, I am looking at all avenues where I can increase my security.

    I already follow some of the weirdest security measures one can think of but I am still paranoid because I have been hacked before and I don't want to be in such a situation again.
    The recent hacks of wordpress had to do with several factors. If any of you use a plugin call toolspack, remove it from your wordpress now because that was no more than a back door being open to your website. 30000 wordpress sites where hacked in the last week, a lot due to plugins like this that are simply designed open the back door to your website.

    The most common way to get hacked by most of the pc and mac users out there is to fall for phishing schemes. If you get any email asking you to log in to verify your information, call the company sending you the email first. In most cases those emails are fake and design to get your information. There is no special security against a phishing scheme because you are the provider of the information and no antivirus software, security expert, can stop you from giving your information away. The most some can do is tell you that this site looks suspicious.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Originally Posted by Deepak Media View Post

    How many of your IMers use iMac or MacBooks as your primary PC. Is it more secure?

    Have you ever been hacked while using a Mac or heard some Mac user being hacked?

    With the recent hacking of domains and website of our fellow warrior - InDigitalWorks.com, I am looking at all avenues where I can increase my security.

    I already follow some of the weirdest security measures one can think of but I am still paranoid because I have been hacked before and I don't want to be in such a situation again.
    That's how the urban myths are born...

    You, obviously, don't understand the difference between your own computer's security and your host server's security - and are just mixing up totally unrelated issues in the same post.

    Then people pick to which issue to reply and the readers, including yourself, will be cherry-picking among those replies and arbitrarily (by ignorance) pairing questions with unrelated answers :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Deepak Media
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      That's how the urban myths are born...

      You, obviously, don't understand the difference between your own computer's security and your host server's security - and are just mixing up totally unrelated issues in the same post.

      Then people pick to which issue to reply and the readers, including yourself, will be cherry-picking among those replies and arbitrarily (by ignorance) pairing questions with unrelated answers :rolleyes:
      I do understand the difference. What makes you think I don't?

      I would really like to know.

      Our fellow warrior's domain and hosting was hacked because his computer was hacked. They got in through his PC and did not attack the domain registrar's site directly.

      You can't control your host. But you can keep ur PC secure. Hacker can hack the hosting server directly or through your PC by stealing ur credentials, right?

      It was not good on ur part to have made assumptions about me especially in a context where you advice not to make assumptions.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMSabatini
      It's an easy answer.

      If you're careful and wise with your activities, you will be fine on a PC.

      If you're careless, you will be attacked on your Mac.

      I've used both for years and have never had a problem with a virus. However, I've been summoned to "clean up" both Macs & PC's for friends & family many times. (That's what really good friends are for, after all &^)
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    I don't think there's much doubt about whether you're safer using PC or Mac the answer is Mac. If you want to know which is more secure, that's a different question. It's also a more complex one, because there several versions of PC. If you want to pick on PC XP, we know that's not secure: its failings prompted Microsoft to spend vast sums retraining its programmers in Trustworthy Computing, and to give users a more secure version free: XP SP2.
    By contrast, Windows 7 has more advanced security than, but whether it's safer is another matter. The fact is, PC is much more likely to be attacked. Chris Wysopal, chief technology officer at Veracode, puts it like this: "I think the Mac is less risky, not more secure. The difference is in the threat environment. An analogy would be an unlocked house in an urban vs rural environment. Both are insecure. One, the rural, is less risky."
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    I run Unix, Linux, Mac, PC, Mac in Linux, PC in Linux, Mac in Windows...and all the other combinations...

    In my experience, there is no such thing as a secure system.

    What makes a difference is how big the bulls-eye is on its back.

    A big bulls eye means more attempts at the kernel...which invariably means more successes...regardless of the platform.

    Linux and Mac have tiny bulls-eyes.

    Anything running Microsoft is screaming "hack me" because so many people use it.

    Actually, with respect to browser security..a big topic as of late, Chrome got ripped to shreds...

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  • Profile picture of the author nrmillions
    having a mac is the only way to go. you can easily run windows on the mac so you get both. if you get a virus on the windows side it will not move into the mac side of your computer. if you buy a pc you only have windows so with mac you can use any possible tool out there regardless if its windows only or mac only.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    There are way fewer viruses for Macs, but if a person isn't going to be vigilant and take the proper precautions then anything can happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author capitalalchemy
      MACs are just as vulnerable, but there's no money in developing viruses for an operating system that isn't used on as wide a scale.
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  • Profile picture of the author ebaypowerguru
    Yes it is generally more secure, however, personally prefer a PC due to obvious reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author James B
    Reason why, it is because its more complicated to make a virus for mac.

    Mac orginated from linux, but apple just packaged it nicely with small changes with calling leapord, etc.

    PC virus are alot more easier to create, and duplicate.


    You can have both. If you have imac, theres something called bootcamp which allows you to partitian your hard drive space, for another OS aka windows 7.
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    • Profile picture of the author seolvl1
      yes, based on my experience too,

      i use both
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    • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
      Originally Posted by James B View Post

      Reason why, it is because its more complicated to make a virus for mac.

      Mac orginated from linux, but apple just packaged it nicely with small changes with calling leapord, etc.

      PC virus are alot more easier to create, and duplicate.
      All 100% false.

      A few years ago, a report revealed. PC had more minor security holes than MAC but MAC had more major ones. It also showed PC fixed their issues where MAC didnt fix all of theres.

      People w/ mac have a false sense of security.
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  • Profile picture of the author los s
    Mac is much safer than PC
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
    Although Mac is much more secure than PC, you must remember that there are much more functions and programs developed for PC only, because of the popularity of PC vs Mac. You're going to miss out on a lot of you only have a Mac. I personally own both computers, and usually use Macs for writing emails, creating graphics, writing copy, and other information that needs to be secure. However, I use my PC for regular activity as it's much more universal.
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  • I hate PC's. Macs are way more secure.
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  • Profile picture of the author metaarticles
    I have never used Mac, but my friends who use Mac tell me that it does not get infected by viruses. I am not sure how true that is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    A Mac tends to be more secure for some tchi reason
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      If you're careful and wise with your activities, you will be fine on a PC.
      A-yup.

      I have a friend who can't keep her Windows machine free of nasties. I can't tell you the number of problems she's had, and she's smart.

      I run Norton Internet Security, and am careful of what sites I visit and what I open or download. Ran MalwareBytes today and found one infected file: A really old one in a program that was a bonus with another product, and which I'd never run. Probably a false positive, but I deleted it anyway.

      Doesn't mean I won't run into some new thing tomorrow that nukes my system or scarfs up my passwords for some Russian hacker, but I haven't had any problems so far keeping my PCs as clean as most people claim their Macs are.
      Both are insecure. One, the rural, is less risky.
      Dude's obviously never lived in the country. One of the advantages of rural living is that (in the US, anyway) at least 1 of 3 homes has a gun in it, and someone who knows how to use it. Often more than 2 of 3, on average. Plus big dogs.

      Perhaps Mr Wysopal is from somewhere guns are less common, and thus perceives a different "threat environment?"


      Paul

      PS: Oops... Maybe he meant for the resident. In which case, he's right, and you can ignore my previous comments...
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  • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
    I use a mac, I use a PC - and I will tell you this...

    A computer is only as secure as the operator using it, perhaps marginally less so.

    If you do your due diligence when downloading things you can minimise the risks.

    One thing I will tell you about using a mac - your complacency about it being "secure... malware and virus free" will one day jump up and bite you in the arse.

    macs are no longer the niche computers of choice for creative professionals, they are very much mainstream and outgrowing the PC market every quarter. Virus and malware creators no doubt have their ears and eyes wide open to this fact, and some are more clever than you or I, even more clever than OS security professionals. They WILL use your complacency against you.

    No system is infallible, nothing is unbreakable. Take nothing for granted, protect yourself and use your common sense.

    Kindest regards,
    Karl.
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  • Profile picture of the author surferchris
    Based on my experience. Mac has generally been more secure than the PC. I haven't had any sort of problems with my Mac for the past 3 years.
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  • Profile picture of the author zaco
    Mac is the last thing I would call secured, the reason why people think its secured is because there aren't alot of viruses that are made for it but as alot of warriors said people will start developing mac viruses/spywares...

    Do you think if you setup a password to login to your mac then nobody can get u r files? you are totally wrong.. macs are the easiest to crack especially for login passwords, its just few commands and the person who got your laptop can change that password and get access to all your files
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