Bunch of Kindle marketing questions

by vbmark
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Hello,

My first ever book went live on Amazon this morning (yes, it's exciting) and I am hoping that someone might have some answers to a few questions.

1) Regarding the free promotion. Is there a "best" day of the week to set it to free? For example, is Saturday better than Wednesday?

2) Once the book is live, is it better to wait some period of time -- days/weeks -- before setting it to free or should it be done as soon as possible?

3) The book that just went live is a short, non-fiction piece on a subject that is of great interest to me and I wanted to share that information. Because the book is short I am setting the price at .99 and will be thrilled if I can make, on average, one sale a day.

My second book a fictional work. It is done but I am just waiting to get it back from my editor (aka a friend of mine who has better grammar skills than me). It is a novella just over 13,000 words.

I would like to get the second book into the 70% royalty plan but the minimum price you can set your book at for that is $2.99.

Is $2.99 too much for a 13,000 word work of fiction?

Thank you for your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by vbmark View Post

    I would like to get the second book into the 70% royalty plan but the minimum price you can set your book at for that is $2.99.

    Is $2.99 too much for a 13,000 word work of fiction?
    Everyone tells me that for fiction, that varies a lot from genre to genre.

    There are certainly many authors who make more money from 30% of $0.99 than they do from 70% of $2.99 (counterintuitive, isn't it?! Like so many things in internet marketing), because the $0.99 books can sometimes sell 30 or 40 times as many copies as the $2.99 ones. Much has certainly been written about this, and it's discussed in quite some detail, on some authors' blogs.

    But I've also heard (here - in other threads) that in some genres of fiction that isn't true, and that $2.99 can actually sometimes be a better price-point than $0.99.

    Congratulations on your first listing, and good luck with the sales!
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    • Profile picture of the author vbmark
      Thanks Alexa, I see what you're saying. I guess it will be a matter of experimentation.

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Harrop
    Many people like to wait until their book has a few reviews before they offer it on the free promotion. It may increase your free downloads if people see some reviews first.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Originally Posted by Amy Harrop View Post

      Many people like to wait until their book has a few reviews before they offer it on the free promotion. It may increase your free downloads if people see some reviews first.
      Wouldn't the exact reverse be more effective?


      Daniel
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      • Profile picture of the author TCwarrior
        the idea is that having some decent reviews will make your FREE book more valuable. There are many free books every day therefore you won't get a lot of donwloads just because it is free.
        Having a higher Normal Price and some Good Reviews will make your Free offer highly valuable therefore worth downloagin.
        1) Book ABC normally $6.99 with 5 X 4.5_starts reviews, get it now FREE
        2) Book ABC normally $1.99 and No Reviews.... Get it now FREE

        You may want to download Option 1 just in case it is good so you can save $6.99 !!!
        Option 2 am I pass.... just another $1.99 book with now reviews, it may not be worth my time

        Of course after the FREE offer you can change the price from $6.99 to $2.99 if you want if $2.99 is the price you always had in mind
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  • Profile picture of the author vbmark
    Thanks, Amy. That makes sense. I appreciate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Orator
    Hello,

    My first ever book went live on Amazon this morning (yes, it's exciting) and I am hoping that someone might have some answers to a few questions.

    1) Regarding the free promotion. Is there a "best" day of the week to set it to free? For example, is Saturday better than Wednesday?
    In my experience the day of release doesn't matter as much as the length of the promotion, and fine tuning. Watch your free downloads to see if people are responding to your cover art, and title. If there not, then you might need to change them. Also you should only be running your free promotion for a day, or two at the most.


    2) Once the book is live, is it better to wait some period of time -- days/weeks -- before setting it to free or should it be done as soon as possible?
    You should run your free promotion as soon as possible, there is nothing to be gained waiting a few weeks.

    3) The book that just went live is a short, non-fiction piece on a subject that is of great interest to me and I wanted to share that information. Because the book is short I am setting the price at .99 and will be thrilled if I can make, on average, one sale a day.
    You need to set a higher goal then this, a sale a day isn't going to get you into the best sellers list and that is where you should be aiming for.

    Some fiction writers have made a lot of money pricing their books at .99, and since it's a short story that price makes sense.

    My second book a fictional work. It is done but I am just waiting to get it back from my editor (aka a friend of mine who has better grammar skills than me). It is a novella just over 13,000 words.

    I would like to get the second book into the 70% royalty plan but the minimum price you can set your book at for that is $2.99.

    Is $2.99 too much for a 13,000 word work of fiction?
    I would set it to .99 in the beginning, once you have gained some positive reviews and reached the best sellers list. Then change the price to $2.99 which is still small enough to be an impulse buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    First, congratulations for publishing your first creative work on Kindle.

    As a Kindle author, I can tell you what I do when I publish a new book. I do a 1-day only free promotion as soon as possible. But, I make sure that I have researched good Amazon keywords first and put those into my book tags. You get to have 7 tag keywords and you should use those to your advantage.

    Why?

    Because when you run your free promotion, it moves your title up the rankings if you get lots of downloads. After the promotion, you should check those keyword tags to see if your title has made it onto the first page. If not, you can go back and replace any keyword tags that aren't giving you 1st page exposure with others that may work well.

    I do not do any further free promotion days unless a title has dropped off the radar completely.

    As for pricing, it's really about the perceived value you provide your readers. There is no right or wrong price per se, but what readers find fair. If your novella is of good quality, then people will happily spend the 2.99 to read it. Remember, they can preview a few pages before buying.

    Don't be afraid to set prices where you can make decent money (70%).

    Consider including a sneak peak preview or chapter for an upcoming story in your current book. This is free publicity.

    Keep publishing and building your writer's brand.
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  • Profile picture of the author vbmark
    Thank you Orator, TCwarrior, and Ms. Fun to Write! This is all great information and I thank you very much for taking the time to respond!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mbullard
    I agree, get some reviews then do a 2 day free promotion. Keep an eye on those 2 free days, pay attention to how many free books are given away. Also, go to your book page on Amazon (when it's free). Look at your rank and if it's #1 in any categories. This does happen and you can even be listed #3, #1, etc in more than one category. Take a screen shot of this ranking. It's good to promote your book later. I've noticed the free giveaway also helps make sales as well.

    As for your fiction book, a lot of new authors are writing books as 2-parters or even trilogies. They are offering the first (or first 2) books for free and then charging 6.99 or so for part 2 (or 3). By that time, you have hooked readers willing to buy the latest book to read the ending.

    You do know the title trick right?
    And what about the negative review technique?
    Or the extra chapter lead generation tip?

    Amazon marketing is becoming it's own thing. There's a lot of things out there you can do to promote your book. Good Luck!
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  • Great discussion guys- I would emphasize on what was said earlier about reviews. They are key and make a huge difference in your sales. However, they seem to be the most challenging to get. The days of buying fake reviews from FIVERR and writing your own from multiple accounts are over. Amazon now crack down on that kind of behaviour.

    So it is a catch 22 situation- u need the reviews to make the sales, but where do u get the genuine reviews from????

    I have done many free promotion days and some of my ebooks get over 1000 downloads but still no reviews.
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    • Profile picture of the author AngelTraveler
      I am having the same results as Mark. You need reviews and you think you will get them from free promotion days (I set them as a 24 hour period only and not 2 days) but I have had eBooks also getting 300 to 1200 downloads and not 1 review from that. They come, grab and go.

      My eBooks are Non Fiction so maybe its different for Fiction. Getting the reviews has been the most challenging part of publishing on Kindle. Any one got any suggestions?
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
        Originally Posted by AngelTraveler View Post

        I am having the same results as Mark. You need reviews and you think you will get them from free promotion days (I set them as a 24 hour period only and not 2 days) but I have had eBooks also getting 300 to 1200 downloads and not 1 review from that. They come, grab and go.
        True. Don't assume people will be grateful just because your book is free and reward you by leaving a good review, or even hitting the Like button that takes a 1/10 of a second to do.

        It's like free samples in the food court at the mall. You might decide to order the bourbon chicken after they give you the sample on a toothpick, but are you going to write a review just because you got a free bite?

        The vast majority of customers will never write a review, whether the book was free or paid. Just ask yourself how many books you've bought or read and how many of them did you review?
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        • Profile picture of the author vbmark
          Just thought I'd share the results of my free promotion:

          Free units downloaded: 355
          Number purchased next day: 4
          Reviews: 0

          So somehow it gave a sales boost. The question is will I continue to see daily sales now that it is ranked slightly higher in some categories.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    Getting good reviews won't usually happen if you even give away 10,000 books because the reader is not emotionally invested in you or your book. You need to engage them and brand yourself via your website, blog, and social media in order to make that happen.

    In addition, you can do many different things IN YOUR BOOK to get 10X more reviews pretty quickly. I'll do a free Webinar on many of the different ways to get Amazon Kindle reviews very soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author vbmark
      Originally Posted by Paul Gram View Post

      Getting good reviews won't usually happen if you even give away 10,000 books...
      Yes, this appears to be true.

      Originally Posted by Paul Gram View Post

      In addition, you can do many different things IN YOUR BOOK to get 10X more reviews pretty quickly. I'll do a free Webinar on many of the different ways to get Amazon Kindle reviews very soon.
      Please let me know when you do this.
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