# A Formula to Win the Lottery

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Seems a married couple has just recently won
the lottery twice, and claim to have a formula
for doing it again and again...
Has Couple Found Formula To Win Lottery?

Even if it's bunk, I can predict brisk sales of
their "winning formula" should they ever decide
to publish it.

Maybe an enterprising sort should contact them
for a JV. Probably do well as a WSO

Brian
• haha. thats crazy.

you want a formula?

do the math.... I did this years ago and in FLA, theres over 14 MILLION combinations.
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•  Originally Posted by Brian Cook Seems a married couple has just recently won the lottery twice, and claim to have a formula for doing it again and again... Has Couple Found Formula To Win Lottery? Even if it's bunk, I can predict brisk sales of their "winning formula" should they ever decide to publish it. Maybe an enterprising sort should contact them for a JV. Probably do well as a WSO Brian
I can GIVE away a guaranteed formula.

It's simple really. Buy every possible combination. Now admittedly, the larger the lottery, the more this formula costs. But it is guaranteed to win.

For a lesser cost, you can buy every possible powerball number for \$42 (Powerball ranges from 1-42), for \$82 you can guarantee to win at least twice as much as you would with \$42 by purchasing the powerplay option.

You are guaranteed to win with only \$42 in cash outlay.

Guarantee applies to the winning of a cash prize of any size in the Powerball Jackpot. Minimum payout is \$3 without powerplay, or \$6 with powerplay option. If you implement this formula and do not win any prize whatsoever, please request a complete refund of the money you paid for this formula.

Sorry, I couldn't find a finer print for my guarantee.

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•  Originally Posted by JasonKing "You can never underestimate the stupidity of the general public." - Scott Adams
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•  Originally Posted by JasonKing "You can never underestimate the stupidity of the general public." - Scott Adams
Super agree
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For the record, in some countries the minimum age for buying lottery tickets is 16, not 18.
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• Well said all round.

I bought the (Formula 1 Lotto) system a couple of months ago. Needless to say it hasn't worked and I will be asking for a refund within the next week.

One thing still bugs me though. The reason I bought was that I've sold 30+ copies myself, still get sales, and have had just one refund.

Are the buyers too lazy to get their money back? Blind enough that they can't see themselves losing? Or do the just not use the system?

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•  Originally Posted by JasonKing "You can never underestimate the stupidity of the general public." - Scott Adams
ha ha!! classic.

I have won the lottery once, but it was to the tune of \$1100 bucks or something, nothing really to scream home about. In fact when I told the wife, she sort of screwed up her face LOL.

What are the chances of winning lottery, like a gazillion to 1, but still I guess you have to be IN IT, to WIN IT!
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•  Originally Posted by Scott Burton I can GIVE away a guaranteed formula. It's simple really. Buy every possible combination. Now admittedly, the larger the lottery, the more this formula costs. But it is guaranteed to win. [snip] --Scott
I remember reading about an Australian syndicate who attempted to do that with the Powerball lottery here in the states. With the size of that particular jackpot, the strategy would have worked, and generated a tidy profit, except for one thing...

There were multiple winners.

As I recall the story, the pot got split 5 or 6 ways. The syndicate lost millions of dollars with a winning ticket .:rolleyes:
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•  Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe I remember reading about an Australian syndicate who attempted to do that with the Powerball lottery here in the states. With the size of that particular jackpot, the strategy would have worked, and generated a tidy profit, except for one thing... There were multiple winners. As I recall the story, the pot got split 5 or 6 ways. The syndicate lost millions of dollars with a winning ticket .:rolleyes:
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That picture looks like you're a man after my own heart....

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• Hey Brian,

Now if you could locate all those "newbie" gamblers, you could
make a fortune.....

Regards

Greg
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•  Originally Posted by Brian Cook Seems a married couple has just recently won the lottery twice, and claim to have a formula for doing it again and again... Has Couple Found Formula To Win Lottery? Even if it's bunk, I can predict brisk sales of their "winning formula" should they ever decide to publish it. Maybe an enterprising sort should contact them for a JV. Probably do well as a WSO Brian
I just read that story a few moments BEFORE finding this thread. Now, they may have a system, but that doesn't mean it will work every time.

It's a neat story, but most people don't understand what random numbers really mean.

Ask most people which of the following sets of numbers is the most random...

A. 10, 68, 43, 86, 9, 24
B. 4, 6, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2
C. 41, 17, 4, 9, 31, 16

...and they will likely pick A. or C., but I used a random number generator using the numbers 1-7, inclusive, to generate set B. While A is based on a few numbers realted directly to me, and C. were off the top of my head - BUT that does not make them random.

Randomness can give the illusion of certain numbers being favored in one way or another, but they are not.

I will not buy their system, as I do not play the lottery, but they sure have a heckuva sales message ready to go.

By the way, I've been to Mt. Horeb a few times and think they are known for two other things - trolls and the Mustard Museum - now this!

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• Then there is the 164 million dollar lottery winner

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•  Originally Posted by Scott Ames Then there is the 164 million dollar lottery winner YouTube - 164 million dollar lottery winner on Jimmy Kimmel Live
hilarious! seriously, if you read the statistics, many big winners end up broke within a few years because they don't know how to handle their money. That I find extremely sad.
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• I thought they won 4 times? Twice, err...lightening could strike, but 4 times? That might make me invest in some systematic approaches. lol

My dad finally won a small (quarter mil) lottery in Florida a few years ago. Never seen an old man so excite din his life. But he'd probably spent more than that over all his years of playing before. Still, he relished it - blew through it in under 1 year.
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• The crazy things is that tons of people would buy the secret formula just for the chance that they could get rich overnight.

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• As with most things of this nature - like ASD Cash Generator, or whatever it was called - they take advantage of the ignorant and naive.

Unfortunately, those are also the people most unable to afford throwing money away.

In many parts of NYC, you still see zillions of "guaranteed numbers systems" being sold at the local bodegas and corner newsstands. Most of them are poorly produced, offset-copy booklets, anywhere from \$2 or \$3, on up to \$99.

They sell very well.

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• This is basic math/science/common sense- as long as the lottery numbers are randomly chosen, there is no way to accurately predict them.

Studying all the past winning numbers means nothing. It's not like a deck of cards where if you know which cards were already dealt, you can more accurately guess the next ones coming.

If these people sell their system that would convince me it's no good- if such a system existed why wouldn't you use it rather than sell it?
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•  Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood This is basic math/science/common sense- as long as the lottery numbers are randomly chosen, there is no way to accurately predict them. Studying all the past winning numbers means nothing. It's not like a deck of cards where if you know which cards were already dealt, you can more accurately guess the next ones coming. If these people sell their system that would convince me it's no good- if such a system existed why wouldn't you use it rather than sell it?
I think that's the point. It makes a great selling angle - they DID use the 'system' is what they will say. "But we don't want to be selfish, so we want to share it with others". That's my guess.

And, here's the kicker...

Because the 'system' doesn't really work and they got lucky, they know it's not sustainable. So, how else can they make money with it if they can't keep using it to win?

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• The system I want to buy is the one where someone predicts the outcome BEFORE it happens!

That would be impressive - but claiming to have a winning system only after you have won sounds more like a fluke.

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• Yup, no way to actually predict the numbers but that doesn't mean they won't sell that "system" to thousands or even millions of people.

I have to believe there's a product coming very soon....

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•  Originally Posted by Michael Oksa I just read that story a few moments BEFORE finding this thread. Now, they may have a system, but that doesn't mean it will work every time. It's a neat story, but most people don't understand what random numbers really mean. Ask most people which of the following sets of numbers is the most random... A. 10, 68, 43, 86, 9, 24 B. 4, 6, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2 C. 41, 17, 4, 9, 31, 16 ...and they will likely pick A. or C., but I used a random number generator using the numbers 1-7, inclusive, to generate set B. While A is based on a few numbers realted directly to me, and C. were off the top of my head - BUT that does not make them random. Randomness can give the illusion of certain numbers being favored in one way or another, but they are not. I will not buy their system, as I do not play the lottery, but they sure have a heckuva sales message ready to go. By the way, I've been to Mt. Horeb a few times and think they are known for two other things - trolls and the Mustard Museum - now this! ~Michael
Agree with Michael. Whenever someone ask me to play lottery with the I say okay lets play: 1,2,3,4,5,6 and they say I am **upid.

Why? These numbers got the same chance.
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•  Originally Posted by Michael Oksa I just read that story a few moments BEFORE finding this thread. Now, they may have a system, but that doesn't mean it will work every time. It's a neat story, but most people don't understand what random numbers really mean. Ask most people which of the following sets of numbers is the most random... A. 10, 68, 43, 86, 9, 24 B. 4, 6, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2 C. 41, 17, 4, 9, 31, 16 ...and they will likely pick A. or C., but I used a random number generator using the numbers 1-7, inclusive, to generate set B. While A is based on a few numbers realted directly to me, and C. were off the top of my head - BUT that does not make them random. Randomness can give the illusion of certain numbers being favored in one way or another, but they are not. I will not buy their system, as I do not play the lottery, but they sure have a heckuva sales message ready to go. By the way, I've been to Mt. Horeb a few times and think they are known for two other things - trolls and the Mustard Museum - now this! ~Michael
I know this thread is very old...But since it's been bumped, may as well add to it...

As Michael said, the numbers picked by the lottery are random. However, the numbers most players pick aren't as random. Most people will include their own birthdays and birthdays of loved ones...Since months have 31 or fewer days, the numbers 1-31 are picked much more often than numbers 32 and over.

While each number has the same odds of winning, by picking numbers over 32 a player will be far less likely to share a jackpot with others, should they hit one.

As others have pointed out above, once the jackpot reaches a certain point, it actually has a positive expectation. For example, if the odds of winning are 1 in 14 million, and each ticket costs \$1, in theory you could buy each possible combo of numbers and be guaranteed a win.

There's the possibility that others may win too, but this is somewhat offset by the fact that all of the other non-jackpot tickets won't be losers and will provide winnings.

Of course, lotteries are a losing proposition, with most only paying back 50% of the total take. However, if you are the type to play once in a while just for a little fun, wait until the jackpot to odds ratio is higher than one to one, and then pick numbers over 32. While you're still very likely to be a loser, you can greatly improve your odds by using just a little strategy.
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• Guys, Guys, Guys!! I'm 17 and do the lottery myself. It is common logic that you have more chance at winning the lottery if you where to use the exact same numbers per day/week/or even month than if you were to carry on using a different/random combination per day/week/or month and FURTHERMORE a greater chance if you were to use more than one combination every week.

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•  Originally Posted by tommo1 Guys, Guys, Guys!! I'm 17 and do the lottery myself. It is common logic that you have more chance at winning the lottery if you where to use the exact same numbers per day/week/or even month than if you were to carry on using a different/random combination per day/week/or month ............
It might be "common" logic - but it sure aint real!

There is simply no way to predict a random draw UNLESS you work for the manufacturers of the machine or balls, dice, counters etc being used and you can somehow fix it so that certain balls are heavier, larger, smaller or whatever.

"Luck" is a random thing. Some people get "lucky" and win a lot, others buy tickets all their life and win nothing. That's life, luck and randomness.

PS - that article doesn't say how many tickets they purchased!
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•  Originally Posted by tommo1 Guys, Guys, Guys!! I'm 17 and do the lottery myself. It is common logic that you have more chance at winning the lottery if you where to use the exact same numbers per day/week/or even month than if you were to carry on using a different/random combination per day/week/or month and FURTHERMORE a greater chance if you were to use more than one combination every week. kind regards from a young/stress free man who did this and whom now provides money to family, friends and charities
Not sure why you want to bump such an old thread....But you're a perfect example of being a guaranteed loser. You're only 17. It is illegal for you to play the lottery. As long as you lose, no one will notice. But once you win, you'll need to show an ID. Good luck ever collecting on a winner.

I know...If you do ever win, you'll split it with someone old enough to play. So bascially, you have half the odds that an otherwise poor game gives you. Good one.

BTW, you reasoning above is totally invalid and not logical.
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•  Originally Posted by tommo1 Guys, Guys, Guys!! I'm 17 and do the lottery myself. It is common logic that you have more chance at winning the lottery if you where to use the exact same numbers per day/week/or even month than if you were to carry on using a different/random combination per day/week/or month and FURTHERMORE a greater chance if you were to use more than one combination every week. kind regards from a young/stress free man who did this and whom now provides money to family, friends and charities
When I was your age I would have believed that too.

I know you won't believe me, but the reality is that you're wrong.

Remember this: numbers have absolutely no memory. There is no "should" here. Period.
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•  Originally Posted by Ghoster When I was your age I would have believed that too. I know you won't believe me, but the reality is that you're wrong. Remember this: numbers have absolutely no memory. There is no "should" here. Period.
Ghoster, he's half right.

Playing the same numbers every drawing is meaningless, as you say.

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• its really interesting.congrats
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• As with most things of this nature - like ASD Cash Generator, or whatever it was called - they take advantage of the ignorant and naive.
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• The only winning lottery formula would involve the company that makes the machine and some heavy bribe money.
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• I heard of a person who prayed to win the lottery and she did!

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• I would love to get my hands on their formula, sadly I think it won't work. How can one claim to have a formula when the numbers are totally random. You can have can calculate all the possible outcomes, but that will leave you with so much combinations!

Though, if you are a multi-millionaire and the tickets are only \$1 per ticket. You can purchase every ticket and win. But only do this, if you can make a profit, then again, another random factor is included and that is that other people will also purchase tickets and could possibly cut you out on this strategy. Let's face it! Formula on lottery? Bogus!
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• it is certainly tempting to have a magic formula for the lottery

I don't believe it however This is just one lucky couple!
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• I was really curious about this "magic lottery formula" thingy, because all I know is that when you are joining the lottery, it's all about luck. For my own experience, I really had no luck winning the lottery, it's just betting and hoping that all of your numbers are called.
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• Anthony Robins talks about a method that generated some lottery winners in his Personal Power 2 deal, the one he talks about and prayer are the only ones that I actually see working, the others are just trying to sell something...
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• Although there isn't really a magical formula to win the lottery. There seems to be one for creating a popular thread. This thread has over 10k views. Learn from this.
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• There is no such stupid thing as 'Formula' for lottery, it's all about probability: the more number rows you buy the higher chance you stand to win but the chance is very tiny that you got to buy a million if not a billion of those rows to guarantee the jackpot. And here in Sweden it's not just about matching all the numbers, you got to also match the Joker number (at least 2 digits) to win the jackpot, the Joker costs 2x-3x the price of a number row so in this case, you'll almost never win the jackpot.
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•  I'm 17 and do the lottery myself. It is common logic that you have more chance at winning the lottery if you where to use the exact same numbers per day/week/or even month
I *used* to think this too, but to be honest, i think this is a fallacy.

If you repeat the same numbers each week...or simply use new, random ones...the chances for each combination to win are ALWAYS the same.

This is the same classic fallacy as assuming that, in Roulette, when black came a few times now there is a higher chance for red to be played.

In reality, your numbers don't have a "memory"...so the fact that you played the same numbers last week does NOT increase the chances this week.

Correct me if i am wrong!

Edit: And yes, lotteries are just proof for the stupidity of people

Every time when there is a big jackpot, MORE people are buying tickets - however, a big jackpot is merely the proof that there was no winners in the past...

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 Originally Posted by Brian Cook Maybe an enterprising sort should contact them for a JV. Probably do well as a WSO Brian
I was just going to say that. They should do a WSO ... it would sell like hotcakes.

I'd even buy it and I'm a skeptic.

lol. Just noticed that this thread is from 2008.
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• B*S* Even a standing click is right twice a day.

If they had a "formula" to iwn why yaven't tehy won it 12 + times?

What they mean they have aformula to reduce the odds from about 15m:1 to 8M:1

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• No apparently it has been mathetically proven it does increase your odds, but like i say from 15Million to one to about 10Million to 1. So don't go thinking you buy a \$5 book and start spending that \$10m prize!

 I'm 17 and do the lottery myself. It is common logic that you have more chance at winning the lottery if you where to use the exact same numbers per day/week/or even month I *used* to think this too, but to be honest, i think this is a fallacy.
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• I'm happy this thread was bumped. I'm reading a book right now that ties right into this - "The Drunkard's Walk - How Randomness Rules Our Lives" by Leonard Mlodinow.

The lotteries use a formula using mathematical expectation to ensure that for each ticket purchased, the expected winnings - the prize money divided by the number of tickets sold - is less than the cost of the ticket. This leaves a guaranteed profit for the lottery.

The only way you can GUARANTEE purchasing a winning ticket is to purchase each of the possible number combinations.

In 1992, investors in Australia noticed that their lottery made a mistake. The lottery involved picking 6 numbers from 1 to 44. That means that there were 7,059,052 combinations. The jackpot was \$27.9 million. These investors realized that if they bought each of the possible combinations, the value of the tickets would be higher than the cost (\$1.00 ticket = \$3.95 in profit).

Buying all the tickets was a logistical nightmare, and there was a small chance that the winning ticket would be sold to another player, resulting in a split pot. In the end, the investors bought only 5 million of the 7,059,052 tickets, but they ended up winning.

I'm sure that there won't be a mistake like that again...
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•  Originally Posted by Kal Sallam I heard of a person who prayed to win the lottery and she did! NOW THAT'S A WINING FORMULA!
That reminded me of a hilarious scene from the movie "Bruce Almighty", where Jim Carrey gets a chance to be God. So many people prayed to win the lottery, he gives up in frustration and grants all of their prayers.

The next scene shows a headline from a newspaper about a glitch in the lottery, with millions of winners and a payout of \$0.39 per winning ticket.

 Originally Posted by StevenJones Though, if you are a multi-millionaire and the tickets are only \$1 per ticket. You can purchase every ticket and win. But only do this, if you can make a profit, then again, another random factor is included and that is that other people will also purchase tickets and could possibly cut you out on this strategy. Let's face it! Formula on lottery? Bogus!
This has happened. From time to time, some syndicate will get the bright idea to buy all the combinations. The last one I read about had it all planned, until one other person threw a buck in the pot and split it with the syndicate. Their "winning" ticket ended up costing them a few million dollars, plus the taxes on their winnings...
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• "Let's play lottery. You give me a dollar, and I will return 55 cents." Oh, and if you hit the jackpot, you will get taxed and that 55 cents will be returned to you over the next twenty years...unless you want a taxed 27 1/2 cents (a lump sum) winning on your dollar. Everyone has to take their cut and it is completely random.

The only way the lottery ever makes any sense is if you invest in tickets purchased by a large group that only plays when the payout is exorbitant. The group would then split the winnings. I would be OK with 1% of 500 million.
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• This would sell like hot cakes!

But I guess since they won the first time round they had a lot more money to spend on tickets, which of course meant a second win was a lot more likely!
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•  Originally Posted by brettb This would sell like hot cakes! But I guess since they won the first time round they had a lot more money to spend on tickets, which of course meant a second win was a lot more likely!
Not really. Even if they bought a million tickets (which I'm pretty sure would be impossible) their odds are very, very low.
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• Doesn't work, companies have tried it before

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Are they selling it for \$7 or \$17?
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• The sad part is though, a sad reflection on society, is that if that couple placed ads everywhere stating that they actually won the lotto twice on a system they developed, they would make even more than the lotto win.
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• Wow, that's some greedy people to be selling a "formula" if they already have that much money. Kind of makes me doubt that they've actually won.

There is no formula that can predict the lottery. Even if the same numbers happened to come up 5 times in a row, it would mean absolutely nothing. The chances of any number coming up are always exactly the same.

Your odds of winning the lotto are absolutely the same every time you play, regardless of which numbers you use.

People buy into the lotto precisely because of the misconception that number repetition has significance. All "formulas" essentially boil down to, "if x number hasn't been draw in x weeks, play x number." Or the reverse.

In terms of mathematical reality, the game has no memory. This is also why it's impossible to win at Roulette long-term, and why Martingale systems will inevitably fail.
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• Winning big twice has happened before to others - very rare though. It's just luck.
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