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Am I Doing Something Wrong?

by cduane82
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Whats Up Everybody?

As you can see, I'm new to the site, and relatively new to the world of internet marketing.

I have been using article marketing as my main medium of traffic generation to my website, as well as some on site SEO. I have been reading/learning about internet marketing and SEO for over a year, but only putting it into action consistently for about 3 months.

At this point, I have 70+ articles sorted out to a few article directories, and about the same amount of pages on my website with keyword related topics and related affiliate products, and some adsense ads too. It might not be the best looking site, but I work hard at it.

I'm not getting much traffic at all, about 10-15 visits per day, but like I said my site is relatively new, about 3 months old now. I have made one sale. Is this normal given the amount of articles I have written? I'm kinda feeling burned out, and everyday that I look at those clickbank and google analytics stats I get sadder and sadder, given I'm working my butt off.

Is it a thing where I need to just keep working at it? I'll have lots of articles by the end of the year if I keep at it; I just want to know if I'm jumping the gun, and needing to be more patient. WHat would be a good average of time/articles before consistent sales are to be made. I'm just looking for any insight whatsoever. Thanks for reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    You should take a look at Alexa Smith, Myob and many other article writers. They do not write to place articles in directories they write for syndication. They get their articles placed in newsletters, trafficked websites, magazines and other places that has eyeballs looking.

    Alexa Smith gives a ton of value through her posts. Look in her profile and do your research. Also the articles must be high quality in the 1,000 - 1,200 range. The top article writers are only writing one article per day if that and then they syndicate the article across hundreds to thousands of sources to get maximum exposure.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      You should take a look at Alexa Smith, Myob and many other article writers. They do not write to place articles in directories they write for syndication. They get their articles placed in newsletters, trafficked websites, magazines and other places that has eyeballs looking.

      Alexa Smith gives a ton of value through her posts. Look in her profile and do your research. Also the articles must be high quality in the 1,000 - 1,200 range. The top article writers are only writing one article per day if that and then they syndicate the article across hundreds to thousands of sources to get maximum exposure.
      ^^^ This. Plus, do a forum search on article syndication and read every post three times. That should literally take a couple of days. Follow all the advice you see in those posts and your entire business will begin to blossom.
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    My advice is to find someone that is doing what you want to do,
    and get them to mentor you. Having a mentor will help you a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author vivi62
    I would find a magazine in your niche and ask if you could write an article for them and make it a brilliant one and it might become a monthly thing and include your links in each article.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Hi, and welcome to the Forum.

    Originally Posted by cduane82 View Post

    I'm kinda feeling burned out, and everyday that I look at those clickbank and google analytics stats I get sadder and sadder, given I'm working my butt off.
    Regarding ClickBank sales, does this post help at all? http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5210243

    Originally Posted by cduane82 View Post

    I'm just looking for any insight whatsoever.
    It's not clear exactly what to say without knowing a little more, but I can offer a few further observations, if they help.

    There's little point, indeed, in expecting (or wanting!) to draw potential customer traffic from articles submitted to directories: this isn't what they're there for, and it isn't how they work.

    Posts #2 and #6 of this thread give an overview of "How to use article directories", if that's helpful: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

    The "secret", with article marketing, to the extent that there is one, is that one can attract huge quantities of well-targeted traffic only by getting articles published in places (ezines, magazines, websites) where there's well-targeted traffic to start with. A well-chosen article directory, or two (not more, really), can be an immensely valuable stepping-stone (though it shouldn't be your only one) to achieving that outcome, but it won't achieve it in itself through the directory copy.

    This post describes how many of us are building our businesses by article marketing: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

    For articles to be syndicated to traffic-producing places, they need first to be written for syndication.

    And they should always be published originally on your site and indexed there, before submission anywhere else, so as to be able to build up the cumulative SEO benefits of all the initial indexation-rights: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    It all depends on the niche you are in and where you are putting the articles. Relying on traffic from the actual directories isn't going to bring you a ton of visitors. You need to write articles that others will syndicate to their blogs and newsletters. You may even want to contact ezine owners directly to get your articles into their newsletter.

    Search the forum and start studying ARTICLE SYNDICATION instead of article marketing.

    Benjamin Ehinger
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  • Profile picture of the author GAldane
    You are seriously doing big mistake i.e relying on one medium where there are several easy and effective other mediums.

    I am quite sure that you have to those other effective routes as well and you will probably see your hard work paying off.
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  • Profile picture of the author NACAdam
    Run 1-2 press releases to your site weekly go over to fiverr and pay someone to write and distribute them for you . Then post your articles off page as well . If your site is 3 months old start hitting the backlinks pretty good too you will have traffic
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by NACAdam View Post

      Run 1-2 press releases to your site weekly go over to fiverr and pay someone to write and distribute them for you .
      Tell me you're joking.
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  • Profile picture of the author cduane82
    A heartfelt THANK YOU to everyone who has responded, I will take the given advice and get onto some article syndication. Thanks a million!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You need to diversify your marketing efforts, and dont focus solely on article marketing. Spend more hours on your business each day implementing more marketing techniques.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    I get a very healthy amount of targeted traffic from article syndication and it also has a secondary effect of getting me some high quality backlinks.

    However, before we can really get into that, the key thing is to know what niche you are in.

    If you may be doing great with what you are doing but just are doing it in a market niche that is not profitable enough.

    In reviewing websites for new people last week, most could be salvaged but unfortunately, there were a couple where they selected niches with so little search volume, they were advised to just start over. That is very hard to hear, I know.

    But if you do really good niche and keyword research first, then many times, you can make more money with less work.

    Search for some recent posts on here that I've made about that and how to do the research.

    However, if you have done the research and you are in a profitable niche that is also reachable by you, then I suggest article syndication and my way is a bit different but has been super effective for me. Again, I've posted it several times, so just search my other posts.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author cduane82
      My website is betterbeatsahead.com, and my niche is music and music production. I don't know if it is a profitable niche or not, I think that it is, being that there are thousands of musicians who have a desire to get started with making beats/music, but don't know how. This was me about 8 years ago. After many trials and tribulations, I'm pretty much well versed on the subject matter, I know it very well.

      I have been reading all afternoon through the different recommended posts, and what I have gathered is that I should:

      1. Write my own articles and then post them to my site

      2. After those articles are indexed, submit them to ezines/article directories for syndication purposes?

      I think that's the bottom line of it all give or take, but I'm still fuzzy on the where portion of submitting articles, and whether or not I should take the exact same article that was indexed on my site and post it elsewhere for syndication. Please elaborate, and thanks in advance.
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      • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
        Originally Posted by cduane82 View Post

        My website is betterbeatsahead.com, and my niche is music and music production. I don't know if it is a profitable niche or not, I think that it is, being that there are thousands of musicians who have a desire to get started with making beats/music, but don't know how. This was me about 8 years ago. After many trials and tribulations, I'm pretty much well versed on the subject matter, I know it very well.

        I have been reading all afternoon through the different recommended posts, and what I have gathered is that I should:

        1. Write my own articles and then post them to my site

        2. After those articles are indexed, submit them to ezines/article directories for syndication purposes?

        I think that's the bottom line of it all give or take, but I'm still fuzzy on the where portion of submitting articles, and whether or not I should take the exact same article that was indexed on my site and post it elsewhere for syndication. Please elaborate, and thanks in advance.
        I have some other posts on here in my emails on how to do the research to find out if your niche is both profitable and reachable by you easily.

        If it is profitable but not reachable easily or reachable but not profitable, either way, you will waste a lot of time and money and not make anything.

        As for article syndication, I do it a bit differently. I post original, unique articles first on Qondio,com because they require never before published, original content. I set the syndication to can copy but cannot modify and most include my bio. Oncer it is through the screening on Qondio.com, I post it on ideamarketers.com.

        About 3 days, later, I post in finally on my own blog and then I social network that link everywhere.

        I have had my articles syndicated thousands of times doing it this way.

        I only do a new article about once a week.

        Other than that, I also create some easy to make videos on Animoto.com and post them on youtube.

        Post on relevant forums that allow a signature and then do social networking.

        Those are my main steps for each niche to get traffic.
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        • Profile picture of the author LukeZ
          Originally Posted by TopKat22 View Post

          I have some other posts on here in my emails on how to do the research to find out if your niche is both profitable and reachable by you easily.

          If it is profitable but not reachable easily or reachable but not profitable, either way, you will waste a lot of time and money and not make anything.

          As for article syndication, I do it a bit differently. I post original, unique articles first on Qondio,com because they require never before published, original content. I set the syndication to can copy but cannot modify and most include my bio. Oncer it is through the screening on Qondio.com, I post it on ideamarketers.com.

          About 3 days, later, I post in finally on my own blog and then I social network that link everywhere.

          I have had my articles syndicated thousands of times doing it this way.

          I only do a new article about once a week.

          Other than that, I also create some easy to make videos on Animoto.com and post them on youtube.

          Post on relevant forums that allow a signature and then do social networking.

          Those are my main steps for each niche to get traffic.
          Thanks for this infos. If someone needs to start from zero doing what you wrote about syndication, how long should he wait to see results in traffic and content distribution?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr.Daydream
    Unless you plan on spending a couple of years writing articles and getting a huge database of articles out there(like 10,000+), You're going to find it difficult to start making passive income from articles alone
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  • Profile picture of the author GeraldNitram
    I remember something that Alexa Smith said in one of the threads here, and it still remains in my head as one of the greatest lessons I've had since I've been into this niche: There's a huge difference between article marketing and article directory marketing. It seems that you're on the right track after seeing your latest reply, cduane82.

    Oh, and thanks to TopKat22 for that awesome answer. Those are great suggestions you have there.
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  • Profile picture of the author bladening
    do some back links , try to improve your keyword rank
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  • Profile picture of the author IMWarrior0
    Stick in there mate we all have to start somewhere I am also very new to this have made no sales so far but am concentrating on building a list and also building relationships and trust I will make this work because I know anyone can do this it just takes commitment. All the best Darren
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