An Internet Marketer Walks Into A Bar....

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(a joke and a tidbit of marketing advice)

An Internet Marketer... a Landscaper... and a Chemical Engineer walk into a bar...

The bartender says what will it be guys?

The Landscaper says, "Its great to be off work, I slaved away in the sun all day. Hit me with a shot and a beer!"

The Chemical Engineer says, "I just pulled an 80 hour week, Thank God It's Friday. Hit me with a glass of wine!"

The Internet Marketer says, "Oh it's OK, I've had enough to drink. I've been here all day, just forgot my keys"

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And here's the IM advice for reading my joke...

Most marketers I know who earn six to seven figures online MOSTLY do one of the following:

-- trade time for money (skill like ghostwriting or copywriting or tech)

-- buy traffic, build a list and sell that list multiple products

-- get affiliates to promote for them, building them a list and selling that list multiple products

-- and now offline IM services and such

I still dont know many who earn full time livings from (article marketing, SEO, squidoo, hub pages, youtube, or any of that stuff). I'm saying **MOST** of the people I know. Sure, there's a few who have some SEO skills and do well that I know, but very few.

Therefore, my advice (if you want to generate six figures or seven) would be to do one of the ones listed above. Because that's what most of the people (BY FAR) I know, actually do.

Here's a bonus tidbit (Only if you smiled at my made up joke above. Don't read it if you are all frowny face):

Just because someone sells you "how to make money with article marketing or SEO" does not mean that's how they *ACTUALLY* make the bulk of their money. My bet is they created a product they thought you'd BUY. (sure, some do that thing they are selling you to earn the bulk of their money, but most do not IMO)

Badda Bam!

Respectfully,

Eric Louviere

PS - this post was not intended to upset, harm, or otherwise stir-up controversy from haters in order to create debate. Ok, maybe a little
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  • Profile picture of the author cdispoto
    Is it best to build a site that focuses on selling a particular product (i.e.: Amazon Kindles) or selling a particular industry (i.e.: protein drinks).

    Or it a matter of finding the affiliate first based on how good the deal is and then learning how to promote what they want?
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  • Profile picture of the author singatechnology
    Hi Eric,

    Thanks for the post. You are absolutely right. Most IM'ers selling Info products are not making much using the same strategy they are trying to teach others.

    Regards.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    My bet is they created a product they thought you'd BUY. (sure, some do that thing they are selling you to earn the bulk of their money, but most do not IMO)
    It can take a while for that penny to drop.

    I bet a lot of people fail because they create valuable information the market NEEDS but doesn't necessarily WANT. It takes a long time to understand that but it's the same online and offline.

    Half the time I go shopping for food I'm bombarded with crap I want to buy but my body doesn't need.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by Big Al View Post

      It can take a while for that penny to drop.

      I bet a lot of people fail because they create valuable information the market NEEDS but doesn't necessarily WANT. It takes a long time to understand that but it's the same online and offline.

      Half the time I go shopping for food I'm bombarded with crap I want to buy but my body doesn't need.
      Find out what people want and give it to them = how to make money. It's funny to me that most Internet marketers are more focused on ranking on search engines than making money. Nothing wrong with that. I'm just sayin'.

      If that's what you want, then that's what I'll offer you (as an affiliate).

      ..thats a cool analogy about junk food hehe
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Thanks Eric. I think your comment about creating what people want to buy is true (isn't that what they teach anyway????).

    There is a well known "guru" who says all his money has been made through creating infoproducts (mainly report type things), building a list, and getting affiliates. He says he's never done or focused on much else than that. Yet he sells info on Facebook marketing, writing ezine articles, getting traffic through Ebay, paid traffic, freelance writing, etc. -- all the things that people think they should be doing.

    Meanwhile, he sells those things to us how? Through his list and affiliates.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Larkrise
    Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

    (a joke and a tidbit of marketing advice)

    An Internet Marketer... a Landscaper... and a Chemical Engineer walk into a bar...

    The bartender says what will it be guys?

    The Landscaper says, "Its great to be off work, I slaved away in the sun all day. Hit me with a shot and a beer!"

    The Chemical Engineer says, "I just pulled an 80 hour week, Thank God It's Friday. Hit me with a glass of wine!"

    The Internet Marketer says, "Oh it's OK, I've had enough to drink. I've been here all day, just forgot my keys"

    ::::::::::::

    And here's the IM advice for reading my joke...

    Most marketers I know who earn six to seven figures online MOSTLY do one of the following:

    -- trade time for money (skill like ghostwriting or copywriting or tech)

    -- buy traffic, build a list and sell that list multiple products

    -- get affiliates to promote for them, building them a list and selling that list multiple products

    -- and now offline IM services and such
    Made Me Chuckle! And yes sir, you are very correct! Money is made in many ways in IM and yes multiple sites with good traffic/niche targeted will pull in the bucks but that can take time to develop without help and many IMers who get the dollars rolling in, share their knowledge, get the bug and start creating their own products to sell.

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  • Profile picture of the author Noel Cunningham
    Hey Eric,

    Your joke gave me a good laugh so thanks for that!!

    But your advice resonated with me aswel - particularly about building a list, selling products to that list and getting affiliates to promote your product for you.

    We all know the money is in the list but when getting started list building can tough. What I find effective is to create you own product and get affiliates to promote it for you in return for attractive commissions (75%+).

    That way your getting your list built for free. Sure you're not getting rich in the beginning but once that list is in place then you can implement your email marketing campaign and sit back and count you cash
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    Sounds interesting. The only point I wanted to disagree with you was when you mentioned trading time for money.

    Seems like if you want to do that, there are plenty of jobs for you in the mainstream work force.
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  • Profile picture of the author StunningWarrior
    Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

    Most marketers I know who earn six to seven figures online MOSTLY do one of the following:

    -- trade time for money (skill like ghostwriting or copywriting or tech)
    Are there many really earning six figures doing this unless they're working 80 to 100 hours per week? I know the odd star copywriter will spend a couple of days and get a few thousand dollars but most ghostwriters or tech specialists? You need to be trading your time at 50 dollars per hour, 40 hours per week and 50 weeks per year to hit six figures.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Originally Posted by StunningWarrior View Post

      Are there many really earning six figures doing this unless they're working 80 to 100 hours per week? I know the odd star copywriter will spend a couple of days and get a few thousand dollars but most ghostwriters or tech specialists? You need to be trading your time at 50 dollars per hour, 40 hours per week and 50 weeks per year to hit six figures.
      Many freelancers or people who go down the road of "trade time for money" do that because they'd rather work from home in their pajamas than fight some job they hate, fight the traffic, put up with co-workers, etc etc

      They are in a way giving up a boss to be their own boss, but are still working a somewhat "job". HOWEVER, there's a huge major difference here. You see, those who are working from home doing this, instead of a day job, are now in the "business owner" world and no longer in the "day job" world. There's a major difference and huge benefits to being in the "business owner world".

      For one, they are no longer part of the "automatic pay checks" dope. (lol). Most people who have day jobs just milk a paycheck and do just enough to not get fired. That check becomes a safety net, in a way.

      However, in a business of your own, even though it's trading time for money, well, that's a different ballgame altogether. You have to market yourself, market your services and generate revenue to put food on the table.

      And, then comes the good news...

      In this business owner world, you see opportunities everywhere. Those in the "employee world" never see those opportunities (for many reasons). But the business owners do all the time. If you are ghostwriting for example, you have opportunities coming out of your ears because you are constantly dealing with other business owners. That's an incredible opportunity to build relationships and strike deals.

      Plus, you have more time on your hands and you can work when you want to work... take a 3 hour lunch if you want... work at nights if you want... take Monday's off every week if you want... and there's no real cap on your income either.

      You can charge more, take on more clients and also outsource yourself to junior ghostwriters (or whatever your doing)... and you take a cut, while they do most of the work. This is duplicating yourself many times over. So, it's not a fixed income at all.

      What it is, is, a REAL BUSINESS!

      Now, while you are earning great money trading time for money and expanding your business and earning more freedom of time, you can be building your passive income stuff on the side too.

      All in all, I think when people see "trade time for money" they think, "hard work". And personally, I'd never partner or work with someone who is afraid of "hard work". Additionally, I think most in this market are brainwashed into thinking they can easily click a button and make big money (with very little work).

      That's just the wrong attitude IMO. That does not mean hard work equals success, because it does not. But, it's like me giving you a sports car and then you saying, "but then I have to pay to put gas in it". Or, I give you a silver pocket watch worth $5,000 and you say, "where's the chain?"

      I'd dont care who tells you they dont work hard, they are full of s###. Sometimes they have to work very hard... other times they work very little, if at all. And almost all of them worked hard to get it all going in the first place. BUT AGAIN, hard work does not equal success... but being afraid of it can almost equal failure, guaranteed.

      All in my opinion of course.

      Finally, I've helped lots of people go from failing to earning big money by showing them how to trade time for money and build it up to a passive income, or build a passive income on the side while they cover their bills and such... and it works!

      Problem is most just want to click that button and do next to nothing to earn money... sort of like employees who milk a paycheck? Hmm... I wonder where that attitude comes from?

      ~Sir Eric Of Louviere-shire
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Silly me - I'm trading my time for money again today...for half a day anyway. I won't make six figures this year because I don't want to work that much. My work online allows me to ramp up my income or let it go down a bit depending on how much I feel like working. Try that in a job.

        I didn't have to get ready and drive to work today...just threw on my jeans and walked 10 feet to my office at home. No co-worker gossip or grumpy boss. I don't have to worry about lunch or breaks - I can eat or break whenever I please. No 9-5 here - I can work in the morning, in the afternoon or in the middle of the night if I choose. I can fit my work around my life instead of the other way around.

        My dog's on the floor beside me - cat's on the back of my chair. I had music playing but I turned it off to listen to birds in the trees outside.

        While I'm trading my time for money writing for clients, I have sites quietly chugging along making more money.

        It's a rough life - but someone's got to do it. I volunteered

        kay

        Edit: Eric is right in his comments above - I love what I do now - but I put in some hard work to get to this point. You don't just point to the income you want and step into place and collect it.
        I've done my share of all nighters and 30 hr marathons - and I've done without sometimes, too - but there's no time to lick your wounds or whine if you aren't yet where you want to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post


    Just because someone sells you "how to make money with article marketing or SEO" does not mean that's how they *ACTUALLY* make the bulk of their money. My bet is they created a product they thought you'd BUY. (sure, some do that thing they are selling you to earn the bulk of their money, but most do not IMO)
    Best words of wisdom so far today, IMO!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    That's the truth most of the big dogs don't do SEO,article marketing,social media,YouTube Facebook
    Nope...They buy their clicks! Do JV's All the time! Do media buys and last but not least outsource almost every task.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Eric, I hate you for saying this....

    j/k

    For years, I did well because I traded time for money.... But then I woke up one day to the fact that doing that is like having a job.

    These days, I create products and I have no interest in getting myself another online job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martyn Wilson
    Loved the joke!

    I said in another post that it is amazing how many people are teaching others how to make money when they have obviously never made a penny using their own methods.
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  • Profile picture of the author drewfioravanti
    Are preparing for a product launch or something?
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  • Profile picture of the author Denis Kampl
    LOL on a joke.

    There are some that actually teach what they do but never reveal
    everything...as they like to put it - reveal all curtains and don't
    hold anything back
    But many just make product but they do their homework and make good
    products otherwise they get a lot of refunds and they don't want that even
    to ruin their reputation in the long haul.
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