Where can I find a good coach without paying a fortune?

Well something like $500+ upfront seems like a fortune to me as I got no knowledge about the coach and how he teaches and how good support he provides. Of course I realize that by investing I would gain more.

My main reason for not using the expensive ones is that I don't have the money to pay those prices upfront.

I've saw Kensters coaching offers and I think he doesn't have any spots left on them, and if I remember right they were also too expensive for me. I will check them both again.

he is right it depends if you have no money or a lot of money and not all classes cost a fortune it depends on how good is the class and how much it teaches you hope this helps and have a good day

I checked some things about Kenster's coaching and if I understood correct it's just about creating WSO's? It's not for me then as I got no information that I could sell on this forum, as I am fairly new to internet marketing.

Same applies for Steven's coaching. He actually states in the sales letter that he will not take newbies and that I must be able to provide real valuable information.

Well my main problem with a WSO is that I'm afraid to put much effort on them as I got no guarantee that it will pay off. With a coach that I know is succesful himself I could trust that my effort wouldn't be worthless.

I think you misunderstood me a bit. I am absolutely willing to pay for a coach and 500$ wouldn't be a fortune in monthly payments of lower amounts.

And I don't know how you can say that 500$ is not a fortune as you don't know who I am. I'm 17 year old student that certainly does not have 500$ to pay upfront.

And I certainly didn't anywhere state that I'd expect someone to give me great amounts of his/her time for nothing. I'm expecting just some advice & critique from someone who has had success.

As for the mentality part, I didn't quite understand what you guys meant? I mean, how is my mentality wrong?

Yes, I agree that I should lose my fear. But I HAVE tried some things even when I got the fear of failing, I just said that it puts me a little back from putting all my effort to something.

I'd definitely like to hear more about what you think is wrong with my mentality?

I think most of you understood me absolutely wrong. I HAVE tried things, I have worked, I am not looking for someone to spend their time for nothing and I certainly am not looking for the push button/easy way out.

Edit: This post was absolutely NOT meant to be a rant against the people who have posted about the above things! I just didn't understand everything. I am very glad that I'm receiving feedback and don't mind at all how harsh it might be! Thanks for everyones input

Here Here , I agree , Just Got Scammed For $1997 ! All because we dared to criticise .

I haven't found any that would suit me. The couple I've found have offered no support at all and never respond to any attempt of contact I try to make, even when it's promised, so I haven't sticked with them.

Hi Quahas

I think it might be beneficial for you to first identify what you want a mentor for, more to the point, what do you want to achieve?

Then I would suggest listing all the assets that you have, time, money, studies, and try to think of strategies of you to get there. Brainstorm all possible solutions. Include getting a mentor in them, but don't limit yourself to just that option. Using just the word "mentor" limits you to think of services where you pay for memberships. There are several other ways to get the same service but under different arrangements, like a job, if you would choose to do that.

For instance finding a company where you could rotate between different responsibilities that relate to internet marketing would cost you nothing and at the same time give you the option to build up not only a network, but cash and experience. It will also give you an insight into how NOT to do things. Many new businesses are made by ex-employees who thought they could do it better. (Then often can't)

Another way of getting the same experience and skills for a lower price is to be an affiliate or create JV's. If you have the drive there are always plenty of marketers out there that has a "payment based on results arrangement" for you.

Also, although I see that asking for advice in this forum can take you in several different directions, asking specific questions in forums, can be very revealing, open a lot of different perspectives, and opportunities.

Personally, I have used plenty of mentoring services, and although I have gotten some value out of them the best advice still comes from my girlfriend who knows very little about IM, but has valuable working-experience and great common sense. Also, as good as mentors can be, asking individual experts on copy, SEO and web design their opinion about things, have given me as much value, if not more, than what I have gotten from mentors. It also has given me fresh insight into what is happening now, while mentors have a tendency of telling what worked for them, rather that what might work now; some time later when technological advancements and changes puts a different light on their content and opinions. That being said, I think the basic rules still apply; great product + great communication = great results.

Think about it like this. Say a mentor makes $200,000 a year doing what he or she does best. This means they make about $550 a day or $22 an hour. Say it would take 360 hours to take you from your current knowledgeable position to a position in which you could also make similar money as him or her. This means you should probably pay him/her $7920 as you are taking away the mentors time that they would otherwise spend working on improving their method or business.

This is why really good worth-while mentors and gurus are actually a bit expensive. Time is money, and their time is really valuable.

Check out clickbank, you might get lucky.

I empathize. What I am hearing (besides fear) is "I don't know which direction I want to go and need a guide."

I had the same problem. I can't hire a coach, either. No coach can tell me what I want to do. I've lived so long and know a little about a lot so am passionate about a lot. Does that make sense?

I have everything in place. I subscribe to a few blogs from people who actually help and give FREE tips and instructions and if you want, I'll name names.

I wish I could send you all this crap sitting on my hard drive that I don't have the 'smarts' to do anything with "yet." I bought everything coming down the pike at first...because I didn't know any better.

Shoot, I'm still learning how to build/set-up a blog/website. I'm going to be dangerous one of these days.

But, I don't know what you want to be when you become an Internet Marketer. Or Affiliate marketer. Or...fill in the blank. What do you want to be?

SEO is overrated, btw. Please don't throw rocks at me, anybody! I'm an old lady.

I actually thought about that too after reading the replies with thought. It definitely would benefit me a lot to have someone to share progress with and discuss.

And of course you don't take newbies if your coaching doesn't focus on the beginning. But I've seen programs that focus exactly on how to build the "system" from the very beginning, and I think I'd qualify for this kind of a program.

Obviously I wouldn't want to join a coaching that focuses on getting an existing "thing" to a next level, as I don't have the "thing" yet.

Gosh... If you would've read my posts on this thread you'd know that I'm not looking to get couched by one of those who earn a fortune online.

Very rarely is this true, especially if one's goal is to cut down the learning curve dramatically. If coaches weren't needed, athletes wouldn't need them (as one example). There are just some things that are difficult to "see" without the assistance of a 3rd party perspective, especially when they have more experience in that regard.

Certainly people do succeed without coaches and mentors, but they are the exception, not the rule.

RoD