Where can I find a good coach without paying a fortune?

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Hi!

I've been looking for a good coach for me as I always get distracted & lost & confused when I try to follow a course/WSO. However I'm finding very low amount of coaches that aren't just a stupid video series without any support or communication. And unfortunately for me these coaches cost a freaking fortune.

Of course I realize that the big guys aren't going to spend their time on me just because I'd like it, but I certainly don't need a millionaire to coach me, just someone who is actually making money doing IM (preferably decent amounts though) and could help me to replicate what he/she has done to get there and give me hints and tips on the way. I am of course willing to pay but not those crazy amounts.

The main idea of this post is to ask if any of you could recommend someone for me/others in the same situation? And of course if someone who could coach me is reading this, feel absolutely free to PM me about it!

Edit: And don't just post here saying that I should use the search function. I have used it so much that I'm tired of it and about to lose my nerves. All I can find are those big gurus that cost thousands.

Edit2: If someone reading this has used a specific WSO and had success, and could consider being my "coach" for the specific WSO and help me implementing it please contact me via PM. I am willing to pay if needed, of course. I'm mainly interested in affiliate marketing to begin with, and later on to move on to marketing my own products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Clark
    What do you class as a "fortune"? You have to invest money to earn money and the more you invest the better in the longterm obviously.
    I'd recommend Kenster and Steven Peters Benn. Check them out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
      Originally Posted by Daniel Clark View Post

      What do you class as a "fortune"? You have to invest money to earn money and the more you invest the better in the longterm obviously.
      I'd recommend Kenster and Steven Peters Benn. Check them out.
      Well something like $500+ upfront seems like a fortune to me as I got no knowledge about the coach and how he teaches and how good support he provides. Of course I realize that by investing I would gain more.

      My main reason for not using the expensive ones is that I don't have the money to pay those prices upfront.

      I've saw Kensters coaching offers and I think he doesn't have any spots left on them, and if I remember right they were also too expensive for me. I will check them both again.
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    • Profile picture of the author romanos8
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      Originally Posted by Daniel Clark View Post

      What do you class as a "fortune"? You have to invest money to earn money and the more you invest the better in the longterm obviously.
      I'd recommend Kenster and Steven Peters Benn. Check them out.
      he is right it depends if you have no money or a lot of money and not all classes cost a fortune it depends on how good is the class and how much it teaches you hope this helps and have a good day
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Clark
    Kenster's is opening up beginning of April again and is $297 from memory.
    In terms of the $500 up front I understand that completely, being 18 with next to no income it's a big chunk of cash for me but I'd weighed it up and took the plunge as such and so far I don't regret a second of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
      Originally Posted by Daniel Clark View Post

      Kenster's is opening up beginning of April again and is $297 from memory.
      In terms of the $500 up front I understand that completely, being 18 with next to no income it's a big chunk of cash for me but I'd weighed it up and took the plunge as such and so far I don't regret a second of it.
      I checked some things about Kenster's coaching and if I understood correct it's just about creating WSO's? It's not for me then as I got no information that I could sell on this forum, as I am fairly new to internet marketing.

      Same applies for Steven's coaching. He actually states in the sales letter that he will not take newbies and that I must be able to provide real valuable information.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Clark
        Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

        I checked some things about Kenster's coaching and if I understood correct it's just about creating WSO's? It's not for me then as I got no information that I could sell on this forum, as I am fairly new to internet marketing.

        Same applies for Steven's coaching. He actually states in the sales letter that he will not take newbies and that I must be able to provide real valuable information.
        In the case of Stevens however in the course he goes into methods about how you might pick a niche to go into but have no knowledge of it and how to go about doing research into that niche, trying methods and twists on premises already done or alternatively taking a "reporter" approach as such and looking at say the top flippa sellers and seeing what they've done and then package that as a WSO which is what one guy has done recently in the WF if memory serves me right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
    I still doubt that it would be for me :/ But thanks for your responses and suggestions anyways! Could anyone else suggest something for me?
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  • Profile picture of the author 100k
    WSO will be your best coach.

    If you want to spend real money then hire a person. But it has to be worth their while to baby sit you!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
      Originally Posted by 100k View Post

      WSO will be your best coach.

      If you want to spend real money then hire a person. But it has to be worth their while to baby sit you!
      Well my main problem with a WSO is that I'm afraid to put much effort on them as I got no guarantee that it will pay off. With a coach that I know is succesful himself I could trust that my effort wouldn't be worthless.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
        Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

        I'm afraid to put much effort on them as I got no guarantee that it will pay off.
        THAT'S your problem right there. A coach may not be able to help you tackle fear. You need to WANT to fail instead of being afraid of failure.

        Entrepreneurs don't get guarantees. They get opportunities.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenster
          Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

          THAT'S your problem right there. A coach may not be able to help you tackle fear. You need to WANT to fail instead of being afraid of failure.

          Entrepreneurs don't get guarantees. They get opportunities.

          I agree with Brad here...Entrepreneurs are fearless, they are not afraid to work their butts off to make their vision a reality, even if everything in their way shouts fail. Entrepreneurs don't care, they stick course to making their vision a reality.

          As per coaching...

          I have done a lot of coaching recently even though I told myself when I was a struggling marketer that coaching isn't something I would be interested in doing. Right now I have many students across various programs and one things I have noticed is this...

          Not every coach is a good coach but not every student is a good student. A good coach tries to work within the needs and characteristics of each student but it's really the student that has more power in determining his or her success than the coach.

          I am here to guide, give advice, and help overcome obstacles but not here to do the work. The student is the one who needs to be willing to roll up their sleeves and take action and ACTION is what this is all about.

          So when you are looking for a mentor or coach or whether you are going at it alone, ALWAYS ALWAYS look introspectively and evaluate yourself just as deeply as you evaluate the potential coaches out there. Make sure YOU'VE got what it takes to succeed in a coaching program. If you don't then make changes so you can be a better student. Do that and connect with a good coach and that's a great recipe for success.

          Best of luck all!
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  • Profile picture of the author Noel Cunningham
    Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

    Hi!

    I've been looking for a good coach for me as I always get distracted & lost & confused when I try to follow a course/WSO. However I'm finding very low amount of coaches that aren't just a stupid video series without any support or communication. And unfortunately for me these coaches cost a freaking fortune.

    Of course I realize that the big guys aren't going to spend their time on me just because I'd like it, but I certainly don't need a millionaire to coach me, just someone who is actually making money doing IM (preferably decent amounts though) and could help me to replicate what he/she has done to get there and give me hints and tips on the way. I am of course willing to pay but not those crazy amounts.

    The main idea of this post is to ask if any of you could recommend someone for me/others in the same situation? And of course if someone who could coach me is reading this, feel absolutely free to PM me about it!

    Edit: And don't just post here saying that I should use the search function. I have used it so much that I'm tired of it and about to lose my nerves. All I can find are those big gurus that cost thousands.
    Hi Quahas,

    The only coach I could recommend is my own, Alex Jeffrey's. If you google his name you'll find loads of information about him. His coaching is very reasonable and I have seen considerable increases in my business by following his advice. If you visit by blog you can get free access to a 1 hour training video - it might be helpful to you so you can get an idea of what he's all about and the kind of area's that he'll cover for you

    Noel.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    A coach will not help you.

    All I see in your responses are excuses and a poor attitude.

    You need to change that before anybody else can help you. In other words, you need to help yourself first.

    That, my friend, is the real advice you need at this time.

    Forget coaching!

    All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Batty
    Hey Quahas,
    I actually disagree with the post above that says WSOs would suffice for a coach.

    Picking up endless WSOs is a recipe for getting nowhere.

    Picking a good mentor, and sticking with the plan is key IMHO.

    Otherwise you'll be going off in a million different directions.

    There's no end to quality coaches in IM.

    Some that I've had experiece with in my 18 months in IM are:
    Chris Farrell - very good for basic training if you have no IM or website experience.
    Brian G Johnson - Also very good.. Brians courses are a bit more expensive than CF, but I'd say more comprehensive as well.
    Sean Donahoe - Sean has a number of products and an ongoing Inner Circle program. I've been a member for about a year, and I find it great value. He's also just about to launch a more comprehensive Mentoring Program.

    And finally, I really like the way Shane Melaugh teaches.

    He has a course called Focus and Action.. I really think this should be mandatory training for internet marketers. About 95% fail at IM, and Shane really solves this problem.

    I think it's brilliant and really essential training. I just wrote about it on my blog..see Biggest Internet Marketing Secret.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    The biggest thing a coach will do for most people is keep them motivated and reassure you that the steps you are taking will likely lead to the results you want.

    Like Michael alluded to in the post above, the biggest problem most people have to overcome is themselves. You (as are most) are the biggest variable in the equation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    So let me get this straight...

    You expect someone to give up their valuable time - time they could be using making lots of money per hour (if they're any good)...

    For peanuts?

    Where is the logic in this?

    Newsflash: good coaches cost money.

    You seem to have an entitlement mentality ($500 a fortune? REALLY?). No one owes you anything, nor are they supposed to help you achieve anything.

    If you aren't prepared (or can't) put down money, do what everyone else does - work your ass off until you are making enough money to re-invest in yourself.

    I know guys who've paid tens of thousands of dollars in coaching. It's no coincidence they're all very successful.

    So yeah, if you're wondering why you can't find dirt-cheap coaching, maybe because it doesn't exist. Partially because these people value your time highly (since it's taking away from time they can use to build their business), and partly because charging the "exhorbitant" fee of *gasp* $500 or more helps them keep out people who are only interested in whinging and making excuses.

    This is a business. In any other business you'd pay literally tens of thousands in startup costs. So I don't know why people whinge about spending a few grand to set up an internet business.

    If you don't have it, that's fine. Just don't expect for everyone to do everything for you for dirt cheap because you can't be bothered putting in the hard yards.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      So let me get this straight...

      You expect someone to give up their valuable time - time they could be using making lots of money per hour (if they're any good)...

      For peanuts?

      Where is the logic in this?

      Newsflash: good coaches cost money.

      You seem to have an entitlement mentality ($500 a fortune? REALLY?). No one owes you anything, nor are they supposed to help you achieve anything.

      If you aren't prepared (or can't) put down money, do what everyone else does - work your ass off until you are making enough money to re-invest in yourself.

      I know guys who've paid tens of thousands of dollars in coaching. It's no coincidence they're all very successful.

      So yeah, if you're wondering why you can't find dirt-cheap coaching, maybe because it doesn't exist. Partially because these people value your time highly (since it's taking away from time they can use to build their business), and partly because charging the "exhorbitant" fee of *gasp* $500 or more helps them keep out people who are only interested in whinging and making excuses.

      This is a business. In any other business you'd pay literally tens of thousands in startup costs. So I don't know why people whinge about spending a few grand to set up an internet business.

      If you don't have it, that's fine. Just don't expect for everyone to do everything for you for dirt cheap because you can't be bothered putting in the hard yards.

      -Daniel
      I think you misunderstood me a bit. I am absolutely willing to pay for a coach and 500$ wouldn't be a fortune in monthly payments of lower amounts.

      And I don't know how you can say that 500$ is not a fortune as you don't know who I am. I'm 17 year old student that certainly does not have 500$ to pay upfront.

      And I certainly didn't anywhere state that I'd expect someone to give me great amounts of his/her time for nothing. I'm expecting just some advice & critique from someone who has had success.

      As for the mentality part, I didn't quite understand what you guys meant? I mean, how is my mentality wrong?

      Yes, I agree that I should lose my fear. But I HAVE tried some things even when I got the fear of failing, I just said that it puts me a little back from putting all my effort to something.

      I'd definitely like to hear more about what you think is wrong with my mentality?

      I think most of you understood me absolutely wrong. I HAVE tried things, I have worked, I am not looking for someone to spend their time for nothing and I certainly am not looking for the push button/easy way out.

      Edit: This post was absolutely NOT meant to be a rant against the people who have posted about the above things! I just didn't understand everything. I am very glad that I'm receiving feedback and don't mind at all how harsh it might be! Thanks for everyones input
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    get a coach......becareful...many forum coaches are scammers as well. go with the well known coaches. kenster, williamsr, . i am on fourth coaches learning different things. i have gotten scammed 4 times already. some will take your money and send outdated wso and you will never hear from them again.
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    • Profile picture of the author cookie58
      Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

      get a coach......becareful...many forum coaches are scammers as well. go with the well known coaches. kenster, williamsr, . i am on fourth coaches learning different things. i have gotten scammed 4 times already. some will take your money and send outdated wso and you will never hear from them again.
      Here Here , I agree , Just Got Scammed For $1997 ! All because we dared to criticise .
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  • Profile picture of the author James B
    If you need to change your mindset, which I think this is the case. Start reading personal development books to empower yourself.

    OR

    Your not the readying type? Thats fine, listen to a audio file which you can dl these on some torrent sites.

    Examples: Tony robins, Jim Rohn

    I know some are directly to relate with network marketing, but ignore that and apply to your internet business.
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  • Profile picture of the author hezgotsoul
    Coaches can direct you but bumping your head while you're in there learning has taught me best
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  • Profile picture of the author Eduard Stinga
    I can't really believe you actually used the "Search" function without finding good coaches that don't cost thousands.. You can find coaching on this forum anywhere between $100 to $1,000+ per month, something for all budgets I'd say. John Taylor, Shane Natan, Tristan Bull, Kenster, just to name a few..
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    • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
      Originally Posted by Eduard Stinga View Post

      I can't really believe you actually used the "Search" function without finding good coaches that don't cost thousands.. You can find coaching on this forum anywhere between $100 to $1,000+ per month, something for all budgets I'd say. John Taylor, Shane Natan, Tristan Bull, Kenster, just to name a few..
      I haven't found any that would suit me. The couple I've found have offered no support at all and never respond to any attempt of contact I try to make, even when it's promised, so I haven't sticked with them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        I HAVE tried things, I have worked
        Let's start here... what things have you tried? How long did you work at each thing? What results did you get? How much money can and will you be able to pay on a per-month basis?

        Once you answer the questions, we may be able to start to help.
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        • Profile picture of the author William Prawira
          If you have joined several coaching with the so called "stupid video series", I'd say you have gotten all that are needed.

          Take a look again on those video, and take notes, then have fun on your own trying things out.

          Is there any additional support for the coaching you went through?
          you can still contact them once in a while, and build relationship with your coach. That can fasten things up a bit
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      • Profile picture of the author Eduard Stinga
        Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

        I haven't found any that would suit me. The couple I've found have offered no support at all and never respond to any attempt of contact I try to make, even when it's promised, so I haven't sticked with them.
        Weird thing - I actually worked with quite a few from this forum, they all offered Skype calls/chats.
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        • Profile picture of the author ucallelse
          I have a good idea about what you are feeling....and the frustration of having someone say one thing and do the other just adds to the fears you have. I do agree that it seems like you need someone who can keep you focused and motivated and not so much build your income for you. There are many IM niches and being new in IM can make your head spin, but you need to do some research about them and focus on one that works best for you. You're going to have to "play around" with whatever you choose to get the hang of it, but that goes for anything you want to do.

          I would say to check the WSOs, and of the ones that catch your interest, read through the comments and reviews, ask some questions yourself and see how the person responds back to you in the forum or as a PM or through email, if they give that information anywhere in their WSO forum. If you NEVER get a response, then move on.

          Finding a mentor/coach that is right for you will take a little time, but until you find one that suites you....do your research. Educate yourself on the niches of IM. Something will pop up at you and when it does, educate yourself more on it. It will be easier to find someone who can give you tips and advice on anything when you come to the table with focus. If what you're interested in is someone else's primary focus and money-maker, they would help you more than someone who pokes around every single facet of IM but doesn't focus on anything.

          You don't have to go broke with trying to find someone to help you. The things that you can do on your own....do. But when you get stuck somewhere, I don't think asking a question or two on WF will cost you anything. How much did you spend to get all this great advice people have given you in this thread? And I'm sure most of them don't consider themselves coaches or mentors. (You guys are great, by the way ). BUT, when you get to a point when you need more directed focus, thread-starting is not going to cut it, and you'll have to spend some money.

          I hope this helps. And Hey, you're only 17....you have time.

          Charlie U.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
            I definitely am not looking for someone to build my income for me. It'd just be awesome to have someone (who knows the stuff I'm doing) pointing out if I do something wrong, and when I do something right tell me that it's right and I should continue. This would increase my motivation tremendously.

            Of course I could see if I'm doing things right from if I'd make money and from how much I make, but this would take time to see and having someone point out the wrongs instantly would save a lot of wasted time.

            And I absolutely agree with how great of a place WF is to gain help and feedback. I've posted quite many simple questions and gotten a response very fast and no one has judged me even if my questions have been "stupid". Great place indeed!

            And I also agree with that I got time as I'm only 17. The thing is that I kind of dream about earning enough (to know that I could make it in IM full time) to be able to take a leap year from studying after my current school is finished (1 year). This would be the perfect chance to attempt IM with my full focus and if I'd fail I could just get back to studying the next year.

            Originally Posted by ucallelse View Post

            I have a good idea about what you are feeling....and the frustration of having someone say one thing and do the other just adds to the fears you have. I do agree that it seems like you need someone who can keep you focused and motivated and not so much build your income for you. There are many IM niches and being new in IM can make your head spin, but you need to do some research about them and focus on one that works best for you. You're going to have to "play around" with whatever you choose to get the hang of it, but that goes for anything you want to do.

            I would say to check the WSOs, and of the ones that catch your interest, read through the comments and reviews, ask some questions yourself and see how the person responds back to you in the forum or as a PM or through email, if they give that information anywhere in their WSO forum. If you NEVER get a response, then move on.

            Finding a mentor/coach that is right for you will take a little time, but until you find one that suites you....do your research. Educate yourself on the niches of IM. Something will pop up at you and when it does, educate yourself more on it. It will be easier to find someone who can give you tips and advice on anything when you come to the table with focus. If what you're interested in is someone else's primary focus and money-maker, they would help you more than someone who pokes around every single facet of IM but doesn't focus on anything.

            You don't have to go broke with trying to find someone to help you. The things that you can do on your own....do. But when you get stuck somewhere, I don't think asking a question or two on WF will cost you anything. How much did you spend to get all this great advice people have given you in this thread? And I'm sure most of them don't consider themselves coaches or mentors. (You guys are great, by the way ). BUT, when you get to a point when you need more directed focus, thread-starting is not going to cut it, and you'll have to spend some money.

            I hope this helps. And Hey, you're only 17....you have time.

            Charlie U.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
        Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

        I haven't found any that would suit me. The couple I've found have offered no support at all and never respond to any attempt of contact I try to make, even when it's promised, so I haven't sticked with them.
        That is shear lunacy!!!! I used Tristan as my coach and I have never been left high and dry with a question. He has always answered good questions that I had. Look if you get a coach and expect them do help you with all of the little things like how to set up your Aweber account then you are lost.
        When you spend money on coaching why not just go ahead and Google the things you don't understand in their course. You can find the answers to anything there.
        Let's say you are a coach and you charge $500 to show someone how they can make $2000 a month and you take on 100 students. Now would you really want to respond to a question about how to install something on your wordpress site? Of course not. You really want to help your students (who want a easier life and the opportunity to make a full time income from home) but do you want to answer these questions all day everyday and create your own full time job in the process NO.

        If you are spending money to learn what they have to offer you owe it to yourself to make that investment count..... The coach is not.

        Most will offer video coaching because it is general and get's the point across. The email access or skype is to make it individualized so that you can clear up some issues you have based on course content.

        If this seems like a rip off or scam than you are missing the point. No one will do it for you. Why would they? Don't get a coach until this is your mindset.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bjarne Viken
      Hi Quahas

      I think it might be beneficial for you to first identify what you want a mentor for, more to the point, what do you want to achieve?

      Then I would suggest listing all the assets that you have, time, money, studies, and try to think of strategies of you to get there. Brainstorm all possible solutions. Include getting a mentor in them, but don't limit yourself to just that option. Using just the word "mentor" limits you to think of services where you pay for memberships. There are several other ways to get the same service but under different arrangements, like a job, if you would choose to do that.

      For instance finding a company where you could rotate between different responsibilities that relate to internet marketing would cost you nothing and at the same time give you the option to build up not only a network, but cash and experience. It will also give you an insight into how NOT to do things. Many new businesses are made by ex-employees who thought they could do it better. (Then often can't)

      Another way of getting the same experience and skills for a lower price is to be an affiliate or create JV's. If you have the drive there are always plenty of marketers out there that has a "payment based on results arrangement" for you.

      Also, although I see that asking for advice in this forum can take you in several different directions, asking specific questions in forums, can be very revealing, open a lot of different perspectives, and opportunities.

      Personally, I have used plenty of mentoring services, and although I have gotten some value out of them the best advice still comes from my girlfriend who knows very little about IM, but has valuable working-experience and great common sense. Also, as good as mentors can be, asking individual experts on copy, SEO and web design their opinion about things, have given me as much value, if not more, than what I have gotten from mentors. It also has given me fresh insight into what is happening now, while mentors have a tendency of telling what worked for them, rather that what might work now; some time later when technological advancements and changes puts a different light on their content and opinions. That being said, I think the basic rules still apply; great product + great communication = great results.
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  • Profile picture of the author xzorpl
    Quahas, I would be difficult for anyone on this forum to suggest any "proper" coaching to you for the simple reason that no one has any idea what you have been attempting to do! or how many times you have attempted to do it.

    You mentioned that you purchased several WSO's and that you are "distracted" and "confused" If I am reading between the lines correctly, "distraction and confusion" are the product of lack of focus (distraction) the confusion may be nothing more than lack of self confidence because of the uncertainty of "knowing or having a "coach" tell you that what you are doing is right. This sounds and smells like nothing more than FEAR! and is the bane of any new endeavor.

    You my friend must learn and must overcome these obstacles which everyone faces if you would be successful. As for the uncertainty, I guarantee that you will learn more than any coach can teach you from your mistakes.

    Starting a business at the ripe ol' age of 17 tells me that someone has been a positive influence (coach) in your life. If you want help, this forum if brimming over with great coaching advice. Why don't you back up a little bit and give spicific details about what you are trying to accomplish, then and only then will you find the targeted answers you are looking for.

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    • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
      Think about it like this. Say a mentor makes $200,000 a year doing what he or she does best. This means they make about $550 a day or $22 an hour. Say it would take 360 hours to take you from your current knowledgeable position to a position in which you could also make similar money as him or her. This means you should probably pay him/her $7920 as you are taking away the mentors time that they would otherwise spend working on improving their method or business.

      This is why really good worth-while mentors and gurus are actually a bit expensive. Time is money, and their time is really valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
    Quahas feel free to PM me, I offer coaching services. Regardless of your decision, there are a couple of tips I can give you:

    - Avoid people that say they will GUARANTEE you will get this amount of money, or this ranking.

    There is nothing wrong with seeking coaching because there is a lot of garbage advice out there, however, 95% of it is going to come down to how you apply that coaching.

    The IM industry is an up and down game, and you must constantly be ready to adapt.
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  • Profile picture of the author TMW
    Slightly different question, but could anyone tell me WHAT these coaches teach, in terms of general content? I don't mean specifics, obviously, since that would involve the content of the course. But my problem is that I'm looking for something specific. I want to learn SEO (and believe I am learning SEO, without a coach, but would like additional tips), the white hat variety, and nothing that interferes with Googles recent (apparent) clamp down on article spinning. My problem with the coaches is that lots of people have talked about being scammed, plus most of the coaches do not even tell you in a general sense what they are teaching. "I will make you thousands per month"...doesn't work for me. I'm not 17, and I would encourage any 17 year old to tread very carefully when spending even $100 without trusted advice that someone is going to be good, and good at teaching what YOU are interested in learning. I would also remind you--or rather repeat what is stated in the intro sticky threads--screen shots can be created (faked), people can get paid for providing testimonials, create false screen names and give themselves testimonials, etc. I'm willing to pay for a coach but I haven't found one yet who had materials I felt I could trust. SEO book looks pretty good but I have no idea if truly valuable, and the price is $300 monthly, plus no actual mentoring support.

    I really think 17 is a bit young, particularly without a direction. I mean, I'm not saying you can't do anything you want at that age. It has happened obviously. If I were your age, I would probably enroll and web design and marketing in a college environment. Get yourself a legitimate job in the industry and you will learn the ropes. Eventually you will be truly ready to launch yourself.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Instead of asking how to get a good coach at a cheap price ask yourself "what can I do to get to the point of being able to afford a coach that can really point me toward the goals I have set for myself?"

    But if you are looking for a straight up coach that is no way staying at the price level he is now .. you can get your kicks with Zeus66.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
    The idea that coaching is too expensive is a bit crazy. And to say I don't have the money so the coach should lower their fee or take monthly payments is also just plain crazy.

    When I was 12 I wanted a computer that cost about $500 and I didn't have the money to buy it at the time.

    Did I write a letter to the computer company and ask them to lower their price or take monthly payments? No, I just went out and got a summer job and save up all summer and then bought the computer.

    The reason that I spent my very hard earned money on the computer is because I wanted it and saw the value in it.

    If you going to get gold out of the ground you got to be willing to pay for the pick to dig it out.

    So the question is if you really believe the coach can help you and see the value that coaching could provide you? If so, then get a part time job and save up the money for coaching.

    If a 12 year old can work minimum wage (I think $3.35 an hour at the time) and save up $500 to buy a computer in the 1980's when $500 was a whole lot more money than it is today then surely you can get a part time job and do it today.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Joseph
    Hi there,

    I can see that you sound very frustrated, and I can understand why.

    What I would suggest for now is:

    1) Keep a steady income coming in from outside local work.

    2) Reach out to a few IM coaches on our warrior forum, and see how they reply back to you. Are they enthusiastic, quick to reply and encouraging? Do they have good reviews? Read what others are saying about them, and ask around.

    3) Pick an area in which you'd like to focus on. A niche that you're passionate about. Collect data on that niche, and begin to compile enough to create a valuable 'time-saving' program with. Unless you'd like to be an affiliate.

    4) Chose ONE person/ program to learn from - and follow their course with no distractions. From start to finish.

    5) Devote your time to this one program, at least two full hours everyday with no distractions and implement. Keep a stop-watch beside you if that helps.

    Keep your head up!
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  • Profile picture of the author anauel63
    Any so called GURU I followed in the past did just one thing: got me pulling out my credit cards!
    when one day I realised I was the coach, I had to figure out EXACTLY what I needed to thrive online so I went on and get myself the right tools FIRST and then things changed!
    you need the right tools.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robby54
      Check out clickbank, you might get lucky.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
    Thanks for everyones input again! Great to read your opinions. I think I'll try to go on my own a bit more (unless I stumble upon the perfect coaching offer). Your responses also made me realize that fear is seriously pulling me back, and that I must lose it to get to my fullest potential, which I will now attempt to do!
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    • Profile picture of the author reclark
      Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

      Thanks for everyones input again! Great to read your opinions. I think I'll try to go on my own a bit more (unless I stumble upon the perfect coaching offer). Your responses also made me realize that fear is seriously pulling me back, and that I must lose it to get to my fullest potential, which I will now attempt to do!
      I empathize. What I am hearing (besides fear) is "I don't know which direction I want to go and need a guide."

      I had the same problem. I can't hire a coach, either. No coach can tell me what I want to do. I've lived so long and know a little about a lot so am passionate about a lot. Does that make sense?

      I have everything in place. I subscribe to a few blogs from people who actually help and give FREE tips and instructions and if you want, I'll name names.

      I wish I could send you all this crap sitting on my hard drive that I don't have the 'smarts' to do anything with "yet." I bought everything coming down the pike at first...because I didn't know any better.

      Shoot, I'm still learning how to build/set-up a blog/website. I'm going to be dangerous one of these days.

      But, I don't know what you want to be when you become an Internet Marketer. Or Affiliate marketer. Or...fill in the blank. What do you want to be?

      SEO is overrated, btw. Please don't throw rocks at me, anybody! I'm an old lady.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    Sounds to me like you don't need a coach as much as a friend or guide to be accountable to. You sound smart enough to know where to get the knowledge but need someone to help you be accountable in executing/implementing it. Look into going into it with someone (like a gym buddy) or getting a local life coach to help. Then you can look into serious coaching that will bring you to the next level.

    For instance, myself, along with many of my friends do not take newbies and will actually interview you for the position (as to not waste your or my time). It's not so much if you can afford a higher end internet marketing coach, but more-so if you need it (aka you're ready) and your business is far enough to take the next plunge.

    Best of luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
      Originally Posted by Brian Tayler View Post

      Sounds to me like you don't need a coach as much as a friend or guide to be accountable to. You sound smart enough to know where to get the knowledge but need someone to help you be accountable in executing/implementing it. Look into going into it with someone (like a gym buddy) or getting a local life coach to help. Then you can look into serious coaching that will bring you to the next level.

      For instance, myself, along with many of my friends do not take newbies and will actually interview you for the position (as to not waste your or my time). It's not so much if you can afford a higher end internet marketing coach, but more-so if you need it (aka you're ready) and your business is far enough to take the next plunge.

      Best of luck.
      I actually thought about that too after reading the replies with thought. It definitely would benefit me a lot to have someone to share progress with and discuss.

      And of course you don't take newbies if your coaching doesn't focus on the beginning. But I've seen programs that focus exactly on how to build the "system" from the very beginning, and I think I'd qualify for this kind of a program.

      Obviously I wouldn't want to join a coaching that focuses on getting an existing "thing" to a next level, as I don't have the "thing" yet.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
        Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

        I actually thought about that too after reading the replies with thought. It definitely would benefit me a lot to have someone to share progress with and discuss.

        And of course you don't take newbies if your coaching doesn't focus on the beginning. But I've seen programs that focus exactly on how to build the "system" from the very beginning, and I think I'd qualify for this kind of a program.

        Obviously I wouldn't want to join a coaching that focuses on getting an existing "thing" to a next level, as I don't have the "thing" yet.
        Would be interested to hear how you've come along.
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  • Profile picture of the author llncm
    I'm in the same position as you. I know somebody that lives local but he is really busy all the time, I may need to take my laptop round to his house one weekend. *prays*
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  • I wonder if Donald Trump would coach me for less then $500?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
      Gosh... If you would've read my posts on this thread you'd know that I'm not looking to get couched by one of those who earn a fortune online.

      Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

      I wonder if Donald Trump would coach me for less then $500?
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    If you don't have the money then start providing a service online to raise the money. $500 is chump change. Expect to pay $1,000 and up for a couple of sessions. People making the type of money you want to make are EXPENSIVE for good reason. They can help you get to where you want to go. Don't ever let money stop you from making a life changing decision. If $500 stops you then many other obstacles will topple you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    John Taylor, hands down. Every single person I've sent over to him have come back to me duly impressed (and their business has been better for it).

    RoD
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew NY
    I have a relatively inexpensive beginners coaching program that I have built up over the past year. I started doing private coaching sessions for friends that needed help, or new publishers to CPA networks. Since then I've expanded here because I'm confident in the steps I give.

    There are all kinds of coaching programs around. Sift through the ones you think would work for you, and just start sending emails. If these coaches are quick to respond to your emails, they should be quick while coaching you as well!

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  • Profile picture of the author abuhanifa
    no one can coach you better than your self , try following this :-

    1 - set your goal .
    2- design a plan to reach your goal.
    3- follow your plan ,
    4- if fail dont loose hope try again , one day you will definitely reach your goal .

    most important tip :- find a way to earn $1 a day then find a way to scale it up

    p.s. :- hit me up , if you need help in learning SEO .
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by abuhanifa View Post

      no one can coach you better than your self.....
      Very rarely is this true, especially if one's goal is to cut down the learning curve dramatically. If coaches weren't needed, athletes wouldn't need them (as one example). There are just some things that are difficult to "see" without the assistance of a 3rd party perspective, especially when they have more experience in that regard.

      Certainly people do succeed without coaches and mentors, but they are the exception, not the rule.

      RoD
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

        Very rarely is this true, especially if one's goal is to cut down the learning curve dramatically. If coaches weren't needed, athletes wouldn't need them (as one example). There are just some things that are difficult to "see" without the assistance of a 3rd party perspective, especially when they have more experience in that regard.

        Certainly people do succeed without coaches and mentors, but they are the exception, not the rule.

        RoD
        So true. Not to mention the learning/knowledge you'll receive from others... there is the accountability aspect (some have self discipline to be accountable to themselves; but almost always a second party individual to be accountable to will improve results).
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  • At my bootcamp a few years ago one of my ex coaching students was ask what made him successful he said it was writing a 5K check to me. There is a friend of mine who says has has like a 99% success rate he charges 25K. I think when someone pays they listen and do and if it's "not a fortune" then the failure rate is huge. I know no one wants to hear that but I paid 7K to my first coach a decade ago and that is what makes you do things you have skin in the game. But today I and people are like are considered morons everyone is entitled to free and cheap and fast.

    New times I guess and I'm just a dinosaur!
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  • Profile picture of the author bbradford71
    This post is great, I too am new to IM and I am finding that it can be very confusing to a newbie! I have purchased many of the WSO's and have found the information helpful but nothing is complete. I have also found that a lot of the information in the WSO's contradict one another. I am looking for information from someone that actual has success and can coach/mentor as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author philt
    Coaches I would recommend are:
    Chris Farrell.
    Russell Brunson.
    Andrew Reynolds.
    Mark Anastasi.
    Allen Forrest-Smith(Copywriter)

    There are many, many more....etc

    They are the marketers I would suggest, they go from affordable to very expensive, but they all are second to none and teach you what you need to know, BUT there is only one person that can take it to the next level and that is you.

    Speak soon
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  • Profile picture of the author 8485marketing
    First name on the list for me is Chris Farrell especially considering that you are new to the IM game. He is very down to earth and teaches exceptionally well and focuses on him knowing that youre not sure of where to go with IM. If you dont have your own product, I suggest you look for someone within the WF who specifically trains people without products how to make an earning from the various methods of plr, cpa, article writing or if you have a talent such as copywriting where you can go to source work. There are tons of good folk here within the warrior forum who wouldnt want their reps tarnished by 'scamming' you so here is always a good place to start. hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanjx01
    Hey Quahas,

    It really depends what it is you're trying to achieve.

    What do you want your life to look like?

    Do you want to create an online or offline business?

    If so - which niche?

    Once you figure this out for yourself - you can then find appropriate mentors.

    Remember though - generally the more personal help and support you're after the more you are going to pay. This also goes along with the experience of the mentor - as this goes up, so does the price generally.

    Hope this helps!

    ~S
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  • Profile picture of the author Vikky B
    Well, if hiring a personal coach is out of you budget, try Russell Brunson's DotcomsecretsX. It only cost a dollar for the first month, and if you don't make money by the end of that, you can always cancel it. However, if you continue, its $97 per month for an additional 2 months.

    Of course, you will still have to invest money to make money - that's the hard fact of any business.

    Hope you are getting along OK.

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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    Buy some books off amazon that teach you entrepreneurial techniques and how to become productive, then you will learn how to look at what others are doing in the market you want to be in and replicate it, no expensive coaching needed, you may also learn how to get the best from them programs etc you have already bought, but the key is to invest in yourself and take action, keep away from distractions and everyday get done what needs doing to move you towards your goal.

    You should also identify what you can and can't do and outsource the things that you can't, stick to what you know and success will come so much more quickly.!
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    If you are interested in Amazon affiliate marketing, drop me a line and I can help you out. I'm looking to take on 3-5 clients for individual coaching based on my own successful system and my fees are below what you consider expensive. A free copy of my Ultimate Product Review System would be included.

    I think I can get you on the right track if Amazon affiliate marketing is something you are interested in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profolegy
    Hello Quahas,
    I will coach/mentor you for free for one month one 1 hour session on skype per week for a month then I will evaluate from there. If interested get in touch.
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