[RANT] Be wary of people who say *this*. Scammers using YOUR Paypal Data!

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Yes, there are no end of low-lifes out there trying to scum product from us for free etc etc and then often go sharing such product on download sites blah blah rant rant...

But here's a new one (OK, not so new, I've had it about a dozen times in the past year).

Email in via my contact form -

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Mr, Barrs.

I purchased your product XXXXXX on XXXXXl my Paypal confirmation ID XXXXXX, but didn't not receive my download link via email.

Could you please forward it to me again.

Thanks.

Bob Drop-Kick

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My reply -


Hello Bob Drop-Kick,

I have just searched through my PayPal transaction records (also through JVZoo and Warrior +) and neither your last name nor email address shows up -

Can you please provide us with your correct payment details... "who" did you purchase this from. It seems you didn't purchase "How to Make Money Fast!" from us.

* Email address used for billing
* Name used for billing
* Date of payment
* Transaction number / receipt

Once we have received this, we can process your request.

Regards,

Paul Barrs

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What you CAN DO...

Use my email reply (and stick your name on the bottom of it).

What you SHOULDN'T DO...

Post your friggin' Paypal ID on a pubic forum board for every drop kick to see!! Seriously, are you stupid??

These trolls go looking for such things and then pretend to be YOU!

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Paul Barrs
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  • Profile picture of the author eshoppingez
    Hi, wow, thanks for the advice. I did hesitate before posting my paypal address on my thread, but I thought it was necessary. Thanks for the insight.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Henshaw
      What you SHOULDN'T DO...

      Post your friggin' Paypal ID on a pubic forum board for every drop kick to see!! Seriously, are you stupid??

      These trolls go looking for such things and then pretend to be YOU!
      Unfortunately this happens on the forum just about every day especially on the WSO section.

      I hope that many Warriors, particularly those with limited experience of life on the Internet and how to act on forums, will read this thread.

      Just my thoughts,

      Jeff.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
        Originally Posted by Jeff Henshaw View Post

        I hope that many Warriors, particularly those with limited experience of life on the Internet and how to act on forums, will read this thread.
        Jeff, I do too, I do too.

        If you've got a problem with someone you've purchased from, simply PM them the details, don't be a douche and post it publicly.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Parker
    Thanks for sharing. I can see how easy it is to fall for this. A lot of people try to get free eBooks and products this way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Qamar
    I got same email request from 2 guys saying that they did not receive their download link from their wso purchase yesterday. At that time I was like so damn busy to check for their trasaction id that I simply sent them the direct download link to my wso.

    Hours later when I checked for these cheapskate paypal details, I realized that I was being tricked by them...

    Guest it's a learning point for me.


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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
      Originally Posted by Qamar View Post

      I got same email request from 2 guys saying that they did not receive their download link from their wso purchase yesterday. At that time I was like so damn busy to check for their trasaction id that I simply sent them the direct download link to my wso.

      Hours later when I checked for these cheapskate paypal details, I realized that I was being tricked by them...

      Guest it's a learning point for me.


      Qamar
      Now I think about it, I didn't get mine either: )

      Feel free to send one my way too, LOL !

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  • Profile picture of the author Tim3
    Hopefully Paypay will introduce the Secure keypad device, such as those used by HSBC, I would imagine the introduction of these will put an end to internet banking fraud of any kind, if you don't have the device you cannot log into your account period.
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

      Hopefully Paypay will introduce the Secure keypad device, such as those used by HSBC, I would imagine the introduction of these will put an end to internet banking fraud of any kind, if you don't have the device you cannot log into your account period.
      Actually they do. I have one. It's credit card size and generates a number that you use to log-in.

      You can turn the option on or off from within your paypal account.

      https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/we...p-security-key
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      • Profile picture of the author Tim3
        Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

        Actually they do. I have one. It's credit card size and generates a number that you use to log-in.

        You can turn the option on or off from within your paypal account.

        https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/we...p-security-key
        Thanks for the heads-up Carol, funny they never advertised it, reckon I shall be checking this out.
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    @Qamar
    Hi this is Bob Drop-Kick,
    Please re-send download link
    Paypal ID BobDrop-Kick@aol.com
    Cheers
    BDK
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaolinsteve
    Wow...

    Sneaky as. I can understand that many of you guys are busy, but I personally would never just send them the download link. Customer satisfaction is nice but seeing as so many products are shared via torrents over the last few years, I would be very careful about what you should be doing before reassuring a payment has been received.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeadRooster
    If these guys put in as much effort into creating a legitimate product and selling it as they do in scamming people they'd probably make a fortune!
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    • Profile picture of the author Shaolinsteve
      Originally Posted by DeadRooster View Post

      If these guys put in as much effort into creating a legitimate product and selling it as they do in scamming people they'd probably make a fortune!
      Very True. Even if it's not a fortune, they will end up much better off, compared to being a "Freebie Seeker".
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
      Originally Posted by Shaolinsteve View Post

      Wow...

      Sneaky as. I can understand that many of you guys are busy, but I personally would never just send them the download link. Customer satisfaction is nice but seeing as so many products are shared via torrents over the last few years, I would be very careful about what you should be doing before reassuring a payment has been received.
      The real deception comes when they use the SAME details (name etc) that a REAL CUSTOMER has posted in a WSO thread... but it get's sent from a different email address! And you don't notice.

      You should ALWAYS resend to the email address that was used with purchase.

      Originally Posted by DeadRooster View Post

      If these guys put in as much effort into creating a legitimate product and selling it as they do in scamming people they'd probably make a fortune!
      Ain't that the truth. Good point.

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  • Profile picture of the author dame016
    Thank you for this warning. I am also wary of using my Paypal address as my business address too.
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  • Profile picture of the author RevenueGal
    I appreciate the advice...something I've never thought about before. You learn something new everyday.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Another thing to be very careful of - "Customers" asking for support who actually grabbed your product off a blackhat or torrent site. You'd be surprised how ballsy some idiots can be.
      Mike, that's one I hadn't thought off, sheesh.

      There's yet another reason to hide everything behind password protection!

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  • Profile picture of the author Khemosabi
    Wow! Thank you for posting this! I am always surprised at the people who post their information! I actually saw a guy post his email AND password on the WSO section! I think the mods should post this in every forum section under "rules".. perhaps title it "Forum posting for dumbas.. I mean dummies".
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    • Profile picture of the author Viramara
      Thanks a million, Paul. This is a heads up for every product creator out there...

      Originally Posted by Khemosabi View Post

      Wow! Thank you for posting this! I am always surprised at the people who post their information! I actually saw a guy post his email AND password on the WSO section!
      Damn, why on earth someone would do that??
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post


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    What you CAN DO...

    Use my email reply (and stick your name on the bottom of it).

    What you SHOULDN'T DO...

    Post your friggin' Paypal ID on a pubic forum board for every drop kick to see!! Seriously, are you stupid??

    These trolls go looking for such things and then pretend to be YOU!

    [end rant]

    Paul Barrs
    I've seen people do that and I always said to myself that it was a silly thing to do. It's like asking a scammer to prey on you and the people you do business with.
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  • Profile picture of the author PhilB
    Hehe thanks Paul, good advice for newbies :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Drop Kick? Like Dropkick Murphys?


    Now that I think of it, sometimes I just want to drop some kicks into the balls of these morons...
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  • Profile picture of the author genuine86
    Thanks for the information! These scammers are everywhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author pahsurf
    oh thanks so much for letting me know.
    I use paypal a lot, wouldn't have falled for it, but its still good to know
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  • Thanks for the heads up, I use paypal for the majority of my work and never realized that I could be scammed that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author pizzatherapy
    It really is amazing the dishonesty of some trolls out there.

    I have been caught by this once. I just wanted to provide good customer service, and if someone says they did not recieve the download link, I just want to take care of them.

    But as the old saying goes, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    These bozos will have only one chance to fool you. Never again.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I don't necessarily think they are out to get your Paypal ID. I think a lot of them are just hoping you can't be bothered checking for their transaction and will just send them a download link to the product. I have had these emails before and everytime I will ask for the Paypal email address they paid with before I ever give them access to their purchase.
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