What is the best domain name purchase and hosting company in Australia?

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Hi,

I have a couple of websites but was looking at getting another few.

I have noticed that some Australian web companies only allow one domain name per hosting account, this can be expensive.

I would prefer having the same company for domain registration and hosting, but since dot com dot au are not readily available or cheap from US companies I might have to buy here (australia domain names) and port to a US hosting account that allows multiple domains on the one account,

Does anyone here do such a set up ... and advice?
#australia #company #domain #hosting #purchase
  • Profile picture of the author martyJames
    i buy my domains , .com.au from crazydomains , expensive compared to the US , $24 for 2 yrs and host via hostgator
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Bruce, whatever you do, DONT host with crazy domains.

    They are absolutely USELESS!

    They're fine for domains, but take your hosting over to hostgator. Its only $8 a month for unlimited sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author chihuahua
    If you host in Australia, it will be very expensive because their bandwidth and datacenter is expensive. What you can do is maybe register the dot.au and as the rest suggested get your hosting from USA where there are a lot of cheap companies. I myself was using one unlimited domain hosting at less than $10/mth
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryK
    I use Crazy Domains but have found it is expensive compared to USA companies. Had my previous site hosted with a USA company and used the .com but of course, you can also use the .com.au if you so wish.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
      on my journey, this is what I have discovered.

      some of the major US hosters that Aussie sites rank well have no telephone support or STD numbers rather than toll free.

      I have found that crazydomains have given excellent site support (when I had issues with my joomla site installation), but as you say hosting costs are ridiculous.

      Seo wise many people say have a country specific extension (.com.au) and host in your own country. But I have friends with high ranking sites in Australia with dot com sites hosted in the US, they just have aussie phone numbers and mention of australia in contact pages etc on their sites, which Google seems now able to process and understand.

      Hostpapa seems to have a high review by some people, and only costs $6 per mth hosting of multiple sites (if pay for three years), and I even got through on the phone (to a canadian) but they dont sell .com.au domains.

      Hostgator are well known. First host pack only allows one domain, second one cost $6.36 per mth (3 yr commitment) for unlimited domain hosting (can port Domains across) but this does not have a 'private IP'. Their next plan does at another $4 per month.

      Why has no one mentioned the other large player godaddy?

      Do you feel that its worth going up to the hostgator business hosting pack so that all sites dont appear to be coming from the same account - isnt that what private IP does for you, so google wont as easily connect the dots of ownership and potentially downgrade PR power sent from these sites to your other sites, if that is what you do?

      I guess its only another $50 a year, so do you guys mostly use crazy domain (to get an au for google seo) and host with hostgator as its the cheapest IP 'cloaking' out there? Do they have EASY and accessible installation and general phone contact or IM contact? Do they have easy one click wordpress and joomla install? It seems most warriors favour wordpress for the seo plugins? So I will have to go with the steep learning curve ..

      Views?

      P.s. what value do you find having a dot com dot au gives you? Is it for google ranking, or people trusting the site more if it has an au after it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Les Blythe
        As you say - interesting no one mentioned GoDaddy. I have found the best combination to be GoDaddy for domain name purchase and Hostgator for hosting. I did buy one or two domains via Hostagtor but it was a less "clean" and more expensive execise than getting them from GoDaddy.

        I like GoDaddy's clear interface and relatively easy domain management. Longer term it is just easier to have all your domains in the one place. You are reminded of upcomming expirations faultlessly.

        Host gator has a support system second to none. Their live chat is avaiable 24hrs a day - even if you live in Oz :-) and I have never had a problem that could not be quickly resolved. Ok, maybe you can save a couple of cents here and there by shopping round but in my humble opinion it is not worth it. The above combination just works.

        BTW - if you put your websites on add on domains (NOT sub domains) in Hostgator, they all have their own unique address/ URL so no worries there.

        All the best.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Bruce99 View Post

        Seo wise many people say have a country specific extension (.com.au) and host in your own country.
        Absolute garbage.

        I run numerous .com.au websites that are all ranked first page (if not first position) and they're all hosted in the US.
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      • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
        Originally Posted by Bruce99 View Post


        P.s. what value do you find having a dot com dot au gives you? Is it for google ranking, or people trusting the site more if it has an au after it?
        Bruce we have the .com which redirects to the .com.au

        I'd say to you don't sweat the small stuff. If you're happy with domain at XYZ and hosting with Hostgator, just do it.

        You could spend the rest of your life trying to second guess Google and still get it badly wrong.

        Get your domain up and get content on it. Full stop.


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      • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
        Originally Posted by Bruce99 View Post

        ...P.s. what value do you find having a dot com dot au gives you? Is it for google ranking, or people trusting the site more if it has an au after it?
        Some Australians prefer to do business with an Australian website for Australian based products and services.
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  • Profile picture of the author kamlesh23
    I thought cost of domain name and hosting are same throughout the globe
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
      Originally Posted by kamlesh23 View Post

      I thought cost of domain name and hosting are same throughout the globe
      Buying a .com domain is pretty much a standard price around the globe. Buying a .com.au is a bit more expensive and you (usually) need an ABN (Australian Business Number).

      Hosting on the other hand is a hole different ball game. Hosting in the US is reasonable. Hosting in Australia is madness and very expensive. There is just not the demand to create enough competition and you'll pay a LOT more to have your site hosted in Australia.

      I live in Australia, have owned hundreds of domains and set up dozens of websites - not once have I ever considered hosting my site in Australia - way too expensive...and they all go home in the evening and on weekends! Life's too good here to stay back and work I suppose (jk...lol) At least with a decent US host you'll get 24 hours support.
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      • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
        Bruce,

        Always a good idea to buy domain names from one company and hosting from another (spread the risk).

        Australian hosting prices are outrageous.

        I've had no problems with Hostgator or Dreamhost (yes, you'll find lots of people saying they both suck - that's their opinion/experience).

        If you want hosting with the same people that Sony, VW, Adobe, Starbucks and Qantas use (from only $20 a month!) try Web Hosting Services: Linux Server Hosting by Media Temple


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  • Profile picture of the author kamlesh23
    Thank you Mr Bill, for a detailed reply on my query.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
      Les Blythe - "GoDaddy for domain name purchase and Hostgator for hosting" But of course you are only talking about buying dot coms (not au's) ?

      godaddy has a Sydney (02) std number to call and from my mobile its 'press 1 or 2' options did not work. A toll free number would be VERY useful.

      "- if you put your websites on add on domains (NOT sub domains) in Hostgator, they all have their own unique address/ URL " Are you talking about the BUSINESS ($12 per month) option that makes it appear as if they are hosted in different places (not all on the same SSL certificate?).

      Martin Luxton "we have the .com which redirects to the .com.au" which is great for your major money sites, but doubling up on expenses for secondary sites will be prohibitive.

      I guess besides people maybe trusting a dot com dot au more in Australia (even if they rank the same as a straight dot com here) is that there is less competition for good URL names, and you can align australian search phrases directly to high volume Google australia search volumes, if that is what you are want to do.

      So the over arching view here is to buy dot com dot au from crazy domain and host with hostgator (business hosting account) at around $12 per month over three year commitment? their other options (on cheaper hosting accounts) is to have a "Shared SSL Certificate" which I assume is bad? So that will be a $360 commitment to start with (over three years for discount)? Yes
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      • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
        i had a very enlightening chat with hostgator.

        I thought that the business plan was what I was after, but he explained that it only gave one free private SSL and one free private IP, all other sites would be shared IP, so from an seo point of view, little added value.

        He then said I really needed separate C class addresses on separate IP's for each site. That would show Google a truly distinct hosting location (though google probably knows its all coming from one company - for this he recommended seohosting dot com at $7 per site. For five sites this would be $35 per month x 12 a year which is well beyond my budget for secondary sites.

        He said private SSL is required for shopping carts, though my virtuemart app says to turn https off???

        As these secondary sites will not have shopping carts to start with, and the business plan only gives one site a boost in seo 'cloaking', maybe, and seohosting dot com costs is prohibitive, it looks like I should just go the 'baby plan', which allows multiple domains with shared SSL ..

        unless anyone here has any other recommendation? thanks! Bruce
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by Bruce99 View Post

          so from an seo point of view, little added value.
          Hang on a minute Bruce, whats the issue here?

          Are you concerned that your sites wont rank because they're all listed under the one account with Hostgator???
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          • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
            Hi John,

            Yes. While I have heard that it is better to have a dot com dot au and be hosted in australia (which many people in here deny) it seems that universally it is believed that hosting all on one account with the same IP is a bad idea.

            That is why hostgator were pushing their sister hoster and saying with "SEOhosting, you pay for how many IPs you want, and they're guaranteed to be separate c-class IPs, so they will appear to be hosted in diverse locations to google That way, interlinking the sites will have a much greater impact on your site ranking."

            Further they speculated that "If IPs are adjacent, just different in the last section, but still different, then google gives them a little weight when they link to each other, since they might still be by the same person. But if they're distinct to a greater degree (ie different C classes as well), then google considers it more significant and gives it more weight."

            Now Bruce considers that may well be true, but for the moment if all I can afford is all the sites sitting together on one hosting account, well at least they are ageing and able to gain PR until I can do separate hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I think you might be overthinking this.

    I have a multitude of sites, all hosted under the one Hostgator account, and most of them (if not all) are ranked first page in Google.

    Im not giving you my "thoughts", this is factual.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
      Hi John,

      not doubting that at all. I am here to learn and prosper.

      What I am trying to unravel (get some good opinions on) is whether those high ranking site's PR (link power or whatever we call it) can be passed to other sites on the same hosting account.

      OR MORE IMPORTANTLY if you have say ten sites on one hostgator account, and they all point at a money site (on a different IP), whether all of the secondary being on that one account (so it looks like they are owned by one person, as its all the same IP) will affect how much Google allows the PR of those bunch of secondary sites to be passed onto the money site.

      I am sure that this 'network trick' is employed by a lot of people. Just that I have not heard the specifics of how much Google may downgrade the passing on of the PR from these secondary sites to the Money sites, making having those secondary sites in the first place of little value.

      So I am talking about secondary sites that have value and are unique themselves, but their main purpose is to pass on PR, not just gain a high ranking themselves. If they all share one IP, how much does Google delve into that and how much will their algorithm say that someone is trying to game Google, heaven forbid, making having those sites for a rank boost of the primary site of little or no value?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Bruce99 View Post

        Hi John,

        not doubting that at all. I am here to learn and prosper.


        Originally Posted by Bruce99 View Post

        What I am trying to unravel (get some good opinions on) is whether those high ranking site's PR (link power or whatever we call it) can be passed to other sites on the same hosting account.
        I cant see why the link juice wouldnt be passed on.

        I have multiple domains under the one account, hosted with HG and some (not all) point to domains on a separate host. Some of those sites are interlinked, too.

        Does that equate to better rankings in Google?

        Probably. As I said, most of my sites, if not all are in first position (or at the very least, first page)

        I really dont think its going to matter too much, honestly.

        There are other ways of getting traffic outside of Google. This is an area I want to improve upon myself, so Im not sitting around worrying about link juice, google rankings and penalties.
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        • Profile picture of the author Les Blythe
          Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post


          There are other ways of getting traffic outside of Google. This is an area I want to improve upon myself, so Im not sitting around worrying about link juice, google rankings and penalties.
          And there's the rub! I just opened my email this morning and yet again more push back from Google - I quote:

          "Google just announced it is deindexing many link building networks, and
          it appears they are also actively punishing people using them too much."

          Mmmm...let me just spend a few hours on SEO - not!
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          • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
            if the indexing happens you are going to love what happens to one of the major seo players in the dogs industry.

            www dogs com au sounds like a wonder generic 'good for them' kind of url.

            They rank very high everywhere in dog keywords and I wondered how. A quick check on their backlinks shows that they have somehow managed to buy just about every generic dog breed, cat breed and any other animal you might like to think of as a domain name, but many of these sites are all just place holders, pointing to each other.

            What a great portfolio, and it will potentially be a textbook seo fail if everyone's predictions of google's next move comes to light. wait and learn i guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author JerrickYeoh
    If Australia server is not your main concern . Then you might not looking only US, you may look for asia hosting which they able to provide similar .au domain price and able to host multiple domain in one hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author OliviaSSLGuru
    We will suggest you aussiewebhost [dot] com [dot] au for web hosting, however we will suggest for an SSL certificate RapidSSLonline.com as low as price for multiple year prices.

    Wish You Good Luck
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