How I went from making $200 in 2 years to $3000+ per week

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No upsells, marketing or sales pitches of any kind. Just a quick story that might resonate with some of you. I;ve pent the past couple of years trying to make money online following various courses etc. Nothing ever worked out. I made a bunch of affiliate sites, followed the various gurus to the letter and made bugger all profit. What I did learn throughout all of this was it is not easy to make money selling digital products or affiliate gear. It's a crowded market place. You need a lot of sites making small money for it all to add up to something worthwhile.

So a few weeks ago I decided I've had enough of traditional IM. It's not for me. So I set up a hosting reseller account on my own domain and effectively had a hosting company. Then I teamed up with a guy who was good at server side stuff. He set up the tech end of things and I did what I do best which is get business in from face to face meetings. I contacted a few businesses and graphic designers that I knew and took on 10 contracts for new websites in 1 week. Here;s how I built things up:
1) I started out with the easy ones, mostly brochure sites.
2) I reinvested the profits from the first couple of sites into developer licenses for good themes that were very flexible
3) I hunted down some big high brow clients that I found out needed sites through contacts or by knocking on doors.
4) My goal was to get these big fish in no matter what so I did them at the cost of outsourced development with little to no profit (any profits were reinvested in more dev licenses and reusable plugins)
5) At this point I am only half way through building my own site but when it goes live I will have some very impressive clients in my portfolio
6) I over delivered on each project. If that meant staying up until 4am trying to get something done across two different tie lines, then I did it. And the clients noticed this.
7) I made communication my number 1 priority. Daily status updates and actual phone calls - yes, people need more than just email to feel confident and satisfied
8) Every site I built was put onto my hosting package for recuring passive income
9) Every client has given glowing testimonials
10) The two biggest fish that I got on board I did for FREE - that's right, it cost me money. I simply put the profits in from another job to pay an outsourced developer to do these jobs. The kudos alone from having developed these sites is worth more than 100 times the investment.
11) I stuck with wordpress sites only
12) I spent 4 weeks interviewing and investigating developers on odesk before I came up with a short list of guys with proven track records. The ones that didn't over deliver I fired straight away. I was very upfront with each of them. If they over deliver on each job they will have a constant stream of work including bonuses.
13) I focus on jobs between 350 and 1500. The bigger ones are too much of a hassle and the cheaper ones aren't worth the time.
14) I focus on real world, real business sites only. No blogs, affiliate site or IM type models. Just real world businesses that don't yet have an online presence.
15} I only deal with developers through odesk - where they are accountable. I had a bad experience on the warriorfoum from someone who wouldnt go through odesk or another - I wont make that mistake again.
18) I traded a website inexchange for legal advice from a lawyer who had a terrible looking website - 1200 worth of advice and terms etc for two days on WP in my own free time.

Bear in mind, I'm not a coder, I do understand what makes websites work. I have a marketing background and I am good at project management but I'm no guru. Week 1 brought in 3K and now I am making upwards of 5k per week in a very short space of time and my list of clients is growing at an insane rate.

I'm not writing this to blow my own trumpet, just to let others out there know that affiliate programs, article spinning and all the other IM stuff is not the be all and end all of making money on line. Look to you local businesses, build sites for those who use gmail addresses - give them their own brand profile and email. Charge reasonable rates and use reusable template based technology.

I hope this inspires someone to try a new approach. It's made a big difference to my quality of life. I'm a,most ready to quit the day job and I actually want to get out of bed in the morning now because I am doing something that I love doing.

To quote the man from Nike "just do it",

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    nice job
  • That's awesome. Very inspirational. Thanks for sharing!
  • Wonderful! Good for you!
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    • Awesome story, inspiring as well!
  • nice work, it all comes down to two things.

    1) hard work

    2) taking consistent action

    So looks like you figured those two out. Well done, and congrats...heres cheers to more successes coming you way.
  • You should have put that in a .pdf and charged $47 dollars for it...

    Just kidding, good job on your success- I know how good it feels.
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    • Lol - you know, I probably could have too:-) Bu that would involve a couple of days putting a pdf together, then another day or two on a sales letter and hosting a squeeze page etc.... but if I did that I'd be takingmy eye off the ball from making real money with this job. Maybe I'll put a detailed pdf together some day and give it out for free - when I'm further down the road. To be honest, this entire project is simply an idea I had to bootstrap a bigger idea I have but the good news is it's working too. I'm no expert but I'm willing to share by $47 secrets for free and I won't even ask for your email address! :-D
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  • Thank you for sharing, inspiring post
  • Very impressive, JB!

    Everyone should gain motivation from your story (especially those that haven't made anything from their efforts so far).

    Best of luck...

    Joe Mack
  • Great story very inspirational and motivating congratulations on your success..

    Here is for more..cheers!

    ~KaL
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  • Congrats on finding something that works well for you. I hope you realize that you're in a small minority if you're good at face to face selling.
  • Congrats on your $3k a week. In what ways do you automate your business?
  • Great to hear of your success JB - good to see another Irish Warrior doing well

    Not that I'd be very experienced with your model but it's good nonetheless to read a nice success story on here - sometimes we don't see enough good-news-stories here.

    Keep it up - Noel.
  • rambo9600 - some great suggestions but what do you mean about processing through sales funnel and making it hard for people to contact you? How does that work?
  • This is a very inspiring post I have thought about doing something like this but never got around to it I will definitely give it another look. I will try it out and see how it turns out.
  • This a great post with lots of wonderful information contained.

    This could easily be a WSO or product.

    Your attitude is a great one. Thanks for giving back.

    Now you mention you are not a coder, but you use Wordpress Themes to set up sites. (I have done this also for a few clients)

    Did you start setting up the sites yourself and then hand it off to someone?
    Was it difficult to find someone reliable?

    What's keeping the coders for your website from setting up their own business, has this been an issue?

    Finally, what were the first few steps you did after you set up your hosting account set up? And can you please reveal what you charge for hosting? And other backend services?

    I have a few clients. I have built Word Press Blogs for them (Mostly brouchure sites, but 1 high end template), but I would like to kick things up even more...

    Again thanks so much for sharing your success!
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    • Thanks for the kind words, I really started this thread to throw some experience back that might help others. If you can take something from this then great!


      The first 2 sites I built myself, that was a real pain and I quickly discovered that I needed to outsource/delegate.

      My CTO, the guy behind the servers setups etc interviews the guys from odesk on round 2 where they get put through their paces on skype to check technical competency and fluency. Round one involves me shortlisting promising candidates based on feedback, number of jobs completed, timely responses in fluent English and portfolio samples to relevant jobs contracted through odesk. It's time consuming but worthwhile, basically virtual HR & recruiting.

      The coders are outsourcing specialists on different continents with no direct contact with the end client. They do a good job then they get another job awarded. No danger of them poaching my clients. Afterall, the clients interface with a flesh and blood account/project manager rather than a random email which could be coming from anywhere.

      All the server end was done by my CTO, once he had the server side and hosting packages set up all we needed were clients. I charge €10pm for a basic site, more if there is high storage or bandwidth. Again, offline clients don't care whether hosting is $3pm or €10pm - they have bigger concerns and want nothing to do with the technical side of things. Other bacend services yet to be introduced will be SEO and premium plugins, not sure what to charge for that yet or what the appetite will be. Some market research required there once we are fully functional and happy that we have a scalable operation.

      Hope that helps!
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  • Good Job. Congrates. :-)
  • great job !!!!!
  • Cheers man! Liked reading this post
  • @JB - this thread is very timely for me and my wife as we are working on a similar venture. We've talked to a couple of people we know, chiropractor and a neighbor who is in insurance and are offering to get a website running and have it set up on a hosting site for them. I like the fact that you haven't completed your own site yet because I'm in the same situation but it shows that I don't have to worry about that to be successful.

    Since I'm starting with some free websites, should I use premium themes and pass along the cost? My start up capital is zero so I may have to use some free themes.
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    • My advice is go premium a\ll the way, look at the first couple of sites as opportunities to create a great portfolio. Either you get the client to pay you a % upfront or you stump up the cost yourself. If you are building two or three sites then you might be best off getting the woo themes developer package to start. I'm not a huge fan of the themes but you get developer licenses and the initial cost will be covered by one site plus a few months of membership. Always try to get a developers license when you can afford it, something flexible with great features.
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  • congratulations!!
  • this is the best forum ever
  • Thanks great post
  • Wow, this is amazing! Good for you, keep up the awesome work!
  • This is inspiring...have a plan and "just do it"...look for results
  • Nice job, I do the same thing but do not outsource. I am not making 3k a week but have made a respectable living at it for the past 5 years working from home with no overhead. You are right on point with the service aspect, over-deliver and each client will send you at least one referal on average. Several of my clients have hired me to build multiple sites.

    My advice to you would be to follow-up in 1-2 months and up-sell each client on an SEO campaign.
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    • The SEO service is definitely something I will be looking to implement. Do you have any thoughts on selling the idea of web presence as opposed to website? It seems to be a recurring theme among business owners I am talking to that they don't have a Facebook page, and if they do they don't use it (those that use it certainly have no customisation done whatsoever). Same goes for twitter etc. There are some very nice FB templates going around that frame your WP site into FB as a landing page. That's something I'm looking at too for those who are that bit more adventurous, just wondering if you or any others on this thread have had much experience selling 'web presence' over 'web sites'?
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  • Congrats dude. That is amazing. I wish I have the same dedication as you.
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  • Great post, thanks for sharing you story with us... Just goes to show what a bit of thinking outside the box can achieve
  • A useful information. Congratulations.
  • Great post. I love seeing success stories of offline IM. This is something I'm very interested in.
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  • Congrats, keep it up
  • Great post JB, i really enjoyed reading your success story as well as alot of the replies..

    Keep it up bro
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  • Nice. I've been going for 6 years with out much success. I hope that I have a breakthrough like you have.

    Good share.
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  • What a great story - long may your success continue! Quit your job, quit your job ;-)
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    • Awesome story and very inspiring to those who've been in the game with little to show for it. Hope to hear about greater things from you in the future.
  • Wow its good that you know what doesn't work for you and taking advantage of it. I am so glad that you have an insane number of clients now. You deserve all of them.

    I am still stuck in the traditional marketing scheme but I am thinking of something new to bring up.

    Thank you for sharing your success with us!

    Ryuchi
  • Very inspiring. Where did you outsource your work? Was it on here?
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    • I used someone from here that didn't work out, not a reflection of the forum at all. I use odesk because if offers a layer of security ans safety through the reputation management model, just like Ebay. There is a charge associated with this but I'm willing to take that on for piece of mind. if I find a warrior member to work with I'll be sending them over to odesk to engage the contract there. There are probably other ways of doing it but I like to leverage reputation management to ensure that the contractor lives up to your expectations.
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  • Very inspiring story. I'm in the phase where you were, of pushing to make it online. Affiliate programs, and so on. So your conclusion that the online part of it doesn't really work that well is a bit sad for me. I hope it's not the general rule
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    • Great story and I thank you for sharing this with us. I just love to read success stores from other internet marketers. Hopefully this will continue for you and you can do this job full-time.
  • Excellent post! Congrats on your accomplishment!
  • Excellent business plan. Doing a couple of free sites in the beginning was smart. It only takes a couple of testimonials to get the ball rolling.

    I've built sites for people and could turn it into a business, but unlike you, I'm terrible at project management, which is your role currently, and lucrative role at that.

    You can scale up in so many ways it's ridiculous especially with add-on services every website needs (SEO, PPC, FB, Videos, etc.). But I think the best part of your model is the hosting cost. Get enough clients under your belt and you'll be able to live off the hosting fees ... and that's truly passive income.

    Thanks for sharing!!
  • I like this thread because it shed light on the fact that getting and making money online is not easy. The main point I took from this story is not to focus on making money online....so much as the point is to make money working for yourself and ie. working from home, if you want to.

    I too have a plan in action, my first grandchild is going to be born in Aug. I want more freedom from a day job and punching a clock. I have been trying to find business, leads of something that needs my marketing, seo, and past business experience. If you are willing to work on a commission bases, you can find a product or service that needs you and you can build it on the side, till you are making up that paycheck. That is what I am doing, found a product and a company that knows my goals and loves my marketing ideas. Thanks for all the good ideas you all share here.
  • Great work JB - glad to see you're using your own brain & making your own decisions & not relying on other people's systems & 'proven methods'
  • That's inspiring for noobs like me. Thank you for sharing.
  • Thanks so much for sharing your story JB!
  • Congrats! This is a inspiring post for all warriors.
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  • great job.congrats.
  • Thanks for detailing your methods. Congrats as well.
  • This is better than most wsos I read in the past .......
  • Hahah we are on the same boat mate. Congrats on your success. keep moving forward.

    Cheers,
    Marvin
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    • Actually he has a BUSINESS... and from the sound of it, he could sell it off to someone else lock, stock & barrel with very little effort.

      You completely missed the point here... this guy is working hard at building something greater than himself, and is loving what he's doing. This is not a job.

      Loosen up, bro. Tooting your own horn & claiming that you are worth $120k a year is nothing compared to JB actually saying "This is how I'm building a business successfully right now!" - JB's company can be scaled up to waaaaay past a measly $120k per year.

      What is this, I don't even...
  • Awesome story! I like the fact that you focused on your strengths and outsourced the things your weak at, not to mention your consistency and patients.

    Much Success To You JB!
  • Fantastic!
  • Big thing I take away from this..."do what you love"...

    That's oooo....ssooooooo...truuuueeeee

    Love it thanks for the boost tonight!

    Cheers,

    Brad
  • Well that all seems like way too much work for my liking, id prefer to lay on the couch and eat pretzels.
  • just read this. Congrats JB
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  • What happened to rambo66? He get deleted?

    Oh and web design and hosting rocks! I do it also :-)

    Cheers!
    TC

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    No upsells, marketing or sales pitches of any kind. Just a quick story that might resonate with some of you. I;ve pent the past couple of years trying to make money online following various courses etc. Nothing ever worked out. I made a bunch of affiliate sites, followed the various gurus to the letter and made bugger all profit. What I did learn throughout all of this was it is not easy to make money selling digital products or affiliate gear. It's a crowded market place. You need a lot of sites making small money for it all to add up to something worthwhile. So a few weeks ago I decided I've had enough of traditional IM. It's not for me. So I set up a hosting reseller account on my own domain and effectively had a hosting company. Then I teamed up with a guy who was good at server side stuff. He set up the tech end of things and I did what I do best which is get business in from face to face meetings. I contacted a few businesses and graphic designers that I knew and took on 10 contracts for new websites in 1 week. Here;s how I built things up: